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Old 05-21-2010, 01:16 PM   #351
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Old 05-21-2010, 01:19 PM   #352
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I think the women picks kind of show that you arent real interested in winning this thing. As great as women are to look at they just arent anywhere close in athletic ability especially against the greatest male athletes in history.

And Im not so frustrated with the draft speed as I am frustrated for the person running it. I have ran drafts before and it sucks when it starts moving at a snails pace.

If you think I'm not interested in winning this thing, then you don't know me at all.
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Old 05-21-2010, 01:27 PM   #353
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If you think I'm not interested in winning this thing, then you don't know me at all.

Just stating my opinion Wade. Im having a hard time trying to figure out what some hot pole vaulter is going to do for your team other than distract them the entire time.

I did want to thank you for that pic though.
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Old 05-21-2010, 01:51 PM   #354
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Just stating my opinion Wade. Im having a hard time trying to figure out what some hot pole vaulter is going to do for your team other than distract them the entire time.

I did want to thank you for that pic though.

Well, let me clarify.

Is it a stupid move to try and win? Maybe.

Was it done out of a lack of desire to win? Definitely not.

There is definite strategy behind it. Now, it could certainly blow up in my face, but it is done with the intention of winning.
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Old 05-21-2010, 03:14 PM   #355
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I'll likely be out much of the day today, so i am going to post my pick now as Karlifornia can't take him anyway.

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Pitching speaks for itself and also a good hitter for a pitcher.

This is actually 14.3

Karlifornia is still on the clock.
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Old 05-21-2010, 06:25 PM   #356
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Okay, clock has expired. Karl can make his last pick at any point.

From his list, NorvTurnerOverdrive selects:

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Old 05-21-2010, 06:56 PM   #357
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:33 PM   #358
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14.6 John Heisman, West Hollywood Stars, Coach.

Heisman was so good, we named a trophy after him. He was a legendary football coach, making the south a football power. He also ran full athletic programs and coached basketball and baseball. I'm sure he will be able to figure out how to beat you at soccer too.
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:40 PM   #359
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Old 05-21-2010, 07:45 PM   #360
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Old 05-21-2010, 08:07 PM   #361
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Old 05-22-2010, 12:55 AM   #362
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He is in the Nike World Cup commercial, which is awesome.
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Old 05-22-2010, 01:09 AM   #363
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Well, let me clarify.

Is it a stupid move to try and win? Maybe.

Was it done out of a lack of desire to win? Definitely not.

There is definite strategy behind it. Now, it could certainly blow up in my face, but it is done with the intention of winning.

She looks like the chick on Friday Night Lights.
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Old 05-22-2010, 01:53 AM   #364
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Draft will be complete once Karl makes his pick.

Everyone go ahead and send me your lists. I'd like them in by Monday if possible.
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Old 05-22-2010, 11:38 PM   #365
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:28 AM   #366
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Had a crazy weekend. I will put my lineups together at lunch today.
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:06 AM   #367
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i made these handy dandy little lineup cards at work last week. not only to save larry some typing but also to tout my general awesomeness.

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Old 05-24-2010, 11:08 AM   #368
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Not all that helpful if you don't share with the class.

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Old 05-24-2010, 11:16 AM   #369
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be happy to share the template. but it's comic life for the mac.
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:19 AM   #370
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oh, well, yeah - not very helpful then .
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:22 AM   #371
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What are the positions in soccer? goalie, fullback, fullback, forward, forward, center?
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:30 AM   #372
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Actually, I was just looking for the generic positions like: F, M, W, CD, WB, GK

You can go into more detail in the voting thread.
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:31 AM   #373
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forwards
attacking midfielders
winger -midfielders-winger
defensive midfielders
fullback -center backs- fullback
GK

any combination,really. there are no requirements. a traditional lineup would be 4-4-2

F F

W MC MC W

FB CB CB FB

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Old 05-24-2010, 11:31 AM   #374
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Actually, I was just looking for the generic positions like: F, M, W, CD, WB, GK

You can go into more detail in the voting thread.

The only reason I have a semblance of a clue on these is because I started playing FIFA last week - and I still don't know what some of these positions you're throwing around are .
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:36 AM   #375
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Can I clarify the football rules?

As long as everyone has a position on the team, can I use a guy at K and another position or does he have to specifically be K/P? Same with PR/KR? Same guy and this guy can play no other positions?
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:38 PM   #376
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edited upon second thought...

Kicker/Punter has to be same person.
KR/PR has to be same person.
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:41 PM   #377
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Wait.

We're changing the lineup rules AGAIN?
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Old 05-24-2010, 01:02 PM   #378
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Well, I didn't necessarily see that as a lineup change. I was just clarifying how the Kicking and Returning categories counted towards the playing both ways,

However, in going through the draft thread, I see that someone asked about Deion and I ruled that he couldn't play both Special Teams and WR. So I'll have to abide by the ruling I made during the draft.

i'll edit my previous post.
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Old 05-24-2010, 07:03 PM   #379
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Looking at Norv Turner's team looks solid, except football where my tandem of Reggie White and Julius Peppers would likely get to the QB or RB about the same time they get the ball.
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Old 05-24-2010, 07:05 PM   #380
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BTW, Larry, we are allowed to have players in multiple spots on our baseball team? I thought it was one spot per player.
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Old 05-24-2010, 07:16 PM   #381
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Reggie White and Julius Peppers would likely get to the QB or RB about the same time they get the ball.

yeah, the right side of my line aren't so much blockers as they are impediments. i can imagine reggie clubbing one of em and twirling them like a baton.

my biggest guys are my best receivers so... put the rest of the roster on the line and hope for the best.
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Old 05-24-2010, 07:22 PM   #382
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Yeah Norv, that will have to be edited. Every one of your guys has to be a starter at a certain position. The only exception I made earlier is that you can have a pitcher hit in all games, but in order to do that he will have to sub at multiple positions in the three games where he isn't pitching (so he isn't usurping the starting job from someone else).

And logically then you could only have two pitchers do this, otherwise someone will be getting subbed more than once.
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:06 PM   #383
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huh. yeah, i never really understood the rule. or maybe i did i just subconsciously chose to ignore it. idk. in my mind i envisioned it like little league.

i don't mean to raise a stink, i mean this is just a silly time waster but, what's to keep me from putting my bench guys as starters; ruth as my closer and bringing him in after one pitch? because that's exactly what i would do if this were a real world exercise. i don't want my best baseball players on the bench because they have the misfortune of being able to pitch.
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:17 PM   #384
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huh. yeah, i never really understood the rule. or maybe i did i just subconsciously chose to ignore it. idk. in my mind i envisioned it like little league.

i don't mean to raise a stink, i mean this is just a silly time waster but, what's to keep me from putting my bench guys as starters; ruth as my closer and bringing him in after one pitch? because that's exactly what i would do if this were a real world exercise. i don't want my best baseball players on the bench because they have the misfortune of being able to pitch.

If it were real world Id probably have Primetime returning kicks and punts no matter how tired he was and Id probably pitch Johan on 2 days rest every start. The rules were made to limit this sort of thing
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:24 PM   #385
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If it were real world Id probably have Primetime returning kicks and punts no matter how tired he was and Id probably pitch Johan on 2 days rest every start. The rules were made to limit this sort of thing

but that's a rule. min innings pitched for a starter isn't.

it doesn't matter. it just seems to take away the utilitarianism. which was the point of the game.

edit: i'll just submit a new lineup. i don't wanna be a pain.

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Old 05-24-2010, 08:38 PM   #386
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I also assumed that Larry wanted them certain positions filled otherwise I was going to run a spread as well. Its much easier to come up with a strong spread formation set with these players than a normal set IMO.
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But I already allowed for the flexibility in letitng you have th epitchers hit in all games. I could've been a dick and said they only hit in the games they were pitching. I think allowing for two of your pitchers to hit in all games is fair enough.

If you want to say Ruth is going to come in and relief pitch every game, that's fine, but I'd expect the voters to tag you for it.
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:41 AM   #388
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I also assumed that Larry wanted them certain positions filled otherwise I was going to run a spread as well. Its much easier to come up with a strong spread formation set with these players than a normal set IMO.

That is a perfectly fine set up if you want. You can set your own Football or Soccer formation, as long as it is legal.
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Old 05-25-2010, 01:10 AM   #389
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I'll get mine in tomorrow, sorry for being a holdup!
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Old 05-25-2010, 02:20 PM   #390
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Still waiting for lineups from Radii, Karlifornia, and an updated baseball roster from Norv.

As soon as I get them, I'll open voting for the first sport.
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Old 05-25-2010, 09:33 PM   #391
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Step it up you 3. Lets get this show on the road.
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Old 05-25-2010, 11:46 PM   #392
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Step it up you 3. Lets get this show on the road.

I had mine in a few hours before your post But yeah, sorry for being later than most everyone else!
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Old 05-26-2010, 03:32 AM   #393
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Sent PM's out for the final 2 we're waiting on.
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Okay, I have lineups from everyone. Still waiting on Norv to correct his baseball lineup, but I'm gonna get started on the voting for other sports. Will open a voting thread on my lunch at 430.
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Old 05-26-2010, 03:27 PM   #395
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you can exclude me from the baseball competition. i'm not typing all that crap out again just to add some caveat, 'this is my starting lineup. except not really cuz after the fist pitch there'd be mass substitutions.' that's silly.

baseball's the only sport that doesn't allow you to put your best starting lineup on the field, which, let's be honest, is what you're being judged on anyway.

best all around athletes. except the guys that can pitch and hit. those guys have to sit the bench for 3 days.

no thanks. i'll take an F.
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best all around athletes. except the guys that can pitch and hit. those guys have to sit the bench for 3 days.

Are you not paying attention? You can have two pitchers hit in all games. If you wanted to stretch it, you could have a third guy hit in all but one game (since that would make up a total of 8 positions.)

But this teaches me a lesson. I should've just been a dick and said the pitcher only hits in the games he's starting.

If you're really going to be a bitch like this, then I'll find someone to take over all your teams and set all lineups however they fit. Any volunteers?
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Old 05-26-2010, 04:32 PM   #397
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But thanks for wasting my time and participating in the entire draft only to be an asshole at the end.
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I'm going to work on opening the basketball voting thread now. anyone that wants to take over Norv's teams, send me a PM and you can edit his Football, Soccer, and Baseball lineups.
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you can exclude me from the baseball competition. i'm not typing all that crap out again just to add some caveat, 'this is my starting lineup. except not really cuz after the fist pitch there'd be mass substitutions.' that's silly.

baseball's the only sport that doesn't allow you to put your best starting lineup on the field, which, let's be honest, is what you're being judged on anyway.

best all around athletes. except the guys that can pitch and hit. those guys have to sit the bench for 3 days.

no thanks. i'll take an F.

What the hell? Is it really the end of the world? It is for fun and I believe at some point you may have forgotten that.
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