WW Amazing Race - Game Over (Moles Win & Team Reebok Wins)

[Danny]

Well, at least we beat the old farts

[Darth Vilus]

What BS, the first leg is non-elimination? That's preferential treatment for the old guys!

[EagleFan]

After discussion during the pitstop you have decided that MartinD must be a mole, he told his teammate that he is after all.

You call him forward and interogate him. You find that he is indeed a mole from another station. He says that their reality show will beat this one hands down. Who wouldn't want to watch Life on Tap, you see behind the scenes at a strip club to see how the bartender lives.

You find that not only was he a mole but he was also the Russell Wannabe.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Lathum

That is crap! I have never seen a first leg be non elimination.

What do we win?

Flyers tickets?

[Darth Vilus]

sweet, not a bad day 1!

[saldana]

well, it seemed like it was gonna be fun, but i cant imagine living through the night

[EagleFan]

Everyone is preparing for the next leg. You look around and other than seeing a very dejected MartinD who seems quite distant now that he hs been outed you notice that nothing else is different.

[EagleFan]

Will announce leg two shortly.

[Danny]

Just a reminder that you aren't supposed to delete posts

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by saldana

well, it seemed like it was gonna be fun, but i cant imagine living through the night

why are you so sure you will be killed? We have a seer who has outed himself unless he is lying.

[Darth Vilus]

did we get a BG block?

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Lathum

why are you so sure you will be killed? We have a seer who has outed himself unless he is lying.

YEah, danny says it was a good day but I am in total disagreement of that. Someone either body guarded me or just flat out didn't night kill me. Wonder who got the BG.

[mauchow]

And if that is it for the night 1, then great job to the BG!

[mauchow]

And I'm off to bed.

[Lathum]

It would be a pretty above the rim move by Saldana if he was a wolf

[EagleFan]

When you are allowed to begin you will start at Rio and travel the Falkland Islands. From there...

You have a clue to the Roadblock.
Who wants to reach new depths? Requires Water, secondary Physical.


You have a clue to the Detour.

Sheer it: Sheer 10 sheep, you will need to catch them and sheer them. Requires physical and mental.
- Sheep in various pens will need to be sheered.
- Sheer ten of them and you may continue the race.
- Learn from the locals the best way to do so.
- If they cooperate you find yourselves near the pitstop.

Catch it: Catch 50 pounds of fish. Requires Water, Mental and Physical.
- Travel to the docks to be taken out on a fishing boat and shown how to fish using the net.
- Using a net you must catch 50 pounds of fish.
- If using the right method you can catch them in one cast.
- If not using the right method it could take a long time.

Pit Stop - Christ Church Cathedral (at the Whale Bone Arch)

[EagleFan]

Leg Two deadline Friday 9 PM EST.

Day Two Werewolf Deadline Friday 10 PM EST.

[Lathum]

OK, so here it is.

I'm the BG and I protected myself. I told Jackal I was the BG and I find it hard to believe it is a coincidence I was what would be a very random N1 target.

I think Mau is likely a wolf as well and tried a fake reveal. They do that and hope I switch to protect him based on his reveal, and when that happens they kill me, which they tried. Otherwise, why not kill Mau? Even if it takes 2 nights to do it that is a worthy trade. I think they saw a chance to take out the BG and went for it.

I have no problem revealing this now since I am dead tomorrow night regardless since I pretty strongly believe Jackal is a wolf.

A much less likely scenario is Sal is a wolf and outing MartinD hoping I will then protect Sal because of his assertion he is dead. Either way I find it very hard to believe I was a random D1 night kill target given Maus reveal.

[Lathum]

Vote Jackal

[Passacaglia]

Man, so much for trying to provide interesting detail -- that sucked. We'll make it up tomo, Zinto!

Weird Day 1, I'll look at it more tomorrow.

[hoopsguy]

Was out for awhile there, so sorry I wasn't around to move vote from NTN over to the revealed wolf.

Sounds like a good day of werewolf and a decent day of racing for the favorite team of every male viewer (3rd place for us chicks).

[Darth Vilus]

wow, ok. I'm inclined to believe Lathum since i can't really see the upside of his strategy if he's a wolf. if we listen to him and kill jackal then we'd obviously kill him the next day so that's not a huge advantage for the wolves. it would by them an extra day at best

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Man, so much for trying to provide interesting detail -- that sucked. We'll make it up tomo, Zinto!

Weird Day 1, I'll look at it more tomorrow.

You provided very interesting detail, I actually should have worked it more into the write up but was tight on time trying to get it all together.

But hitchiking?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

wow, ok. I'm inclined to believe Lathum since i can't really see the upside of his strategy if he's a wolf. if we listen to him and kill jackal then we'd obviously kill him the next day so that's not a huge advantage for the wolves. it would by them an extra day at best

I wouldn't go that far. Option C is I was indeed a very random N1 target, but I doubt it.

[EagleFan]

My head is spinning at the moment (have been fighting off what feels like migraine). Going to log for the night. I'll check back in tomorrow morning.

[bhlloy]

Yeah, sorry I didn't get my vote off Mau in time, had some work stuff to clear up. Good first day and a good result.

Very weird first day, I see some pretty clear scenarios forming based on Lathum's reveal and the lack of a night kill but I'll let some more experienced players draw some conclusions first. Lots to talk about.

EF - I assume that given these revelations it's perfectly OK to discuss the race and the werewolf part of your game via PM with your partner?

[Darth Vilus]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I wouldn't go that far. Option C is I was indeed a very random N1 target, but I doubt it.

But what are the odds that out of 20 people we'll lynch the seer.

and what are the odds that out of 14-15 people the wolves wuld hit the bodyguard?

And out of 20 people what are the odds that the bodyguard would protect the same person that the wolves would try to kill?

Not very high.

That's alot for me to swallow

[Lathum]

I almost switched off myself and onto Sal or Mau, glad I didn't.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

wow, ok. I'm inclined to believe Lathum since i can't really see the upside of his strategy if he's a wolf. if we listen to him and kill jackal then we'd obviously kill him the next day so that's not a huge advantage for the wolves. it would by them an extra day at best

The only thing I can think of is it's a crazy suicide play by the wolves. If Jackal is a wolf and get's lynched tonight, we think Lathum is BG and Mauboy is seer, they are the two most trusted players in the game and they are making it to the end. The real seer and BG wouldn't necessarily want to speak up as they'd instantly make themselves targets.

I have no idea if this makes sense or is remotely realistic. Just putting thoughts out there.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

But what are the odds that out of 20 people we'll lynch the seer.

and what are the odds that out of 14-15 people the wolves wuld hit the bodyguard?

And out of 20 people what are the odds that the bodyguard would protect the same person that the wolves would try to kill?

Not very high.

That's alot for me to swallow

That is why I revealed. I'm just saying, if Jackal is a villager that doesn't mean I am a wolf.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

The only thing I can think of is it's a crazy suicide play by the wolves. If Jackal is a wolf and get's lynched tonight, we think Lathum is BG and Mauboy is seer, they are the two most trusted players in the game and they are making it to the end. The real seer and BG wouldn't necessarily want to speak up as they'd instantly make themselves targets.

I have no idea if this makes sense or is remotely realistic. Just putting thoughts out there.

At some point those truths would come out, either by them revealing or by them being night killed. In a 20 person game there really would be no point to making that move.

Mau revealing as seer makes perfect sense, because he has nothing to lose.

I will also say keep thinking and throwing out scenarios, I love the fact that your wheels are turning!

[Darth Vilus]

no im not saying you're a wolf but let's say jackal is. with a seer reveal you would most likely protect them right? so you would protect them and they would kill you, with you dead we would never have known that you told jackal anything. there wouldn't be any suspicion on him at all if their kill had succeeded.

[Danny]

vote jackal

[Danny]

The most likely scenario is that Jackal is a wolf, so my vote will stay there.

[mckerney]

Vote Jackal

Probably the best we'll have to go on today, may as well get the vote in early.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

no im not saying you're a wolf but let's say jackal is. with a seer reveal you would most likely protect them right? so you would protect them and they would kill you, with you dead we would never have known that you told jackal anything. there wouldn't be any suspicion on him at all if their kill had succeeded.

exactly.

I would be absolutely floored if Jackal wasn't a wolf.

[Danny]

Hopefully mauboy will come back with his scan target. He'll also get in a minimum of one other scan before being killed.

[Darth Vilus]

Honestly I think we have the wolves by the huevos rancheros

[bhlloy]

So why would the wolves try and take out the BG before the seer? Is that standard game play?

[bhlloy]

Oh and why not. Based on the info we have right now

Vote Jackal

[Darth Vilus]

Vote Jackal

[Danny]

Either mauboy is a wolf or they knew mauboy was the seer and figured he had to be protected.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

The only thing I can think of is it's a crazy suicide play by the wolves. If Jackal is a wolf and get's lynched tonight, we think Lathum is BG and Mauboy is seer, they are the two most trusted players in the game and they are making it to the end. The real seer and BG wouldn't necessarily want to speak up as they'd instantly make themselves targets.

I have no idea if this makes sense or is remotely realistic. Just putting thoughts out there.

I can also see mauboy's play as an attempt to draw the seer out, along with being a last ditch effort to save himself. When he did it he looked like a sure bet to get lynched, and unless I missed something he was vague enough that if the seer did come forward he could try to argue he was claiming a role though he never said it was seer.

[Darth Vilus]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

So why would the wolves try and take out the BG before the seer? Is that standard game play?

No they'll try to kill whatever role they can. They just assumed the BG would protect the seer, if they tried to kill the seer tonight it wouldn't have worked.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

So why would the wolves try and take out the BG before the seer? Is that standard game play?

No it isn't, which is why I think they went for me. I think they knew I was the BG and assumed I would protect Mau based on his reveal, which is why they went for me.

I was worried Jackal may be a wolf and that exact scenario would happen, which is why I left the protection order on me.

[The Jackal]

what the hell lathum!

[The Jackal]

i honestly don't have time to go into this right now, just got back from my birthday celebrations, which is also why i wasn't involved in vote switching, but i fail to see how this means i'm a wolf

[The Jackal]

i'm shocked and appalled that you automatically assume i'm a wolf because you were targeted when we specifically discussed that you were a likely N1 target and that's why it was great that you are the bodyguard..

[The Jackal]

you better have a damned good explanation as to why this means i'm a wolf.. this is bull, we have a great day one when i'm doing both competitions and this is what i get?!

[The Jackal]

i'll be back around tomorrow.. i'm as vanilla as it gets, but lathum better believe he's not going to win the race after this crap