Werewolf CXXIV - Watchmen (Game Over, Wolves Win!, endpost:704)

[EagleFan]

unvote CR

vote saldana

[J23]

vote Eaglefan

[jeff061]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Jeff, I assume you are just trying to properly digest these events? But will make a proper play before the end of the day and not lynch the person revealing as seer without a really good reason?

Yeah I am going to unvote him, likely go eagle. I wish there was someone else.

[EagleFan]

Good luck village.

[jeff061]

Unvote Chief Rum
Vote DaddyTorgo

[J23]

Do we have enough around to move it off EF if that's the consensus? DT has a vote on him from DV currently if that would sway the vote enough.

[EagleFan]

As you'll find out soon, I am Nelson Gardner.

[PackerFanatic]

Guess that is why something seemed off about CR...

UNVOTE EAGLEFAN
VOTE SALDANA

[saldana]

unvote CR
vote EF

[J23]

unvote EF
vote DaddyTorgo

[jeff061]

I wasn't sold on CR. Seer crossed my mind for him, but not nearly enough to bail.

I wish we had more participation. I really only voted CR to add an alternative to a bandwagon forming on Eagle and I felt he would generate more discussion than the alternatives at the time simply because he's engaged.

[saldana]

anyone have a count

[saldana]

unvote EF, vote DT

[EagleFan]

unvote sal

vote DT

[saldana]

not sure if i buy the reveal by eagle, but we can fight about that tomorrow

[EagleFan]

though I like my sal vote better...

[saldana]

that was a fun 5 minutes...i love deadlines

[EagleFan]

Jackal is going to hate us tonight with these votes to figure out.

[saldana]

i guess if we wanted to be nice, we could figure it out for him

[J23]

not it.

[Chief Rum]

I forgot to explain my slight trust vote.

When Sal and ntn are tied late yesterday at 3-3, hoops voted Sal to put him ahead. The next vote was DT, also on Sal moving him to 5-3. that's an unlikely wolf move by DT with minutes to deadline if Sal is a wolf. So if Sal is a wolf, hoops is not the cunning and DT almost certainly a villager. Jeff61 had a similarly good day 2 vote, putting up Sal above a bunch of candidates.

Sorry EF I was pretty sure you were a villager, but if Sal is a wolf I couldn't go right at him like that without tipping him off.

[EagleFan]

If I got it straight...

DaddyTorgo 5 - Darth Vilus (306), jeff061 (355), J23 (360), saldana (363), EagleFan (364)
EagleFan 4 - PackerFanatic (309), hoopsguy (313), Chief Rum (324), DaddyTorgo (345)
Chief Rum 1 - Danny (326)
saldana 1 - PackerFanatic (358)

[saldana]

i have:

DT - 5 - Darth, jeff, j23, Sal, EF
EF - 3 - Hoops, CR, DT
Sal -1 - packer
Chief - 1 - Danny

[saldana]

EF...you have packer twice...he ended on me

[PackerFanatic]

Wow, that many switched off Sal?

[J23]

EF, you have PF twice.

[hoopsguy]

EF, you are showing an amazing ability to avoid the lynch so far this game. I'll feel much, much better about that trend if DT is a wolf.

[jeff061]

Pretty big if on Sal being a wolf though.

If DT is a villager it points a bigger crosshair on EF, this was a lot of last second movement to clear him. Far more than Saldana if I recall.

[jeff061]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

EF, you are showing an amazing ability to avoid the lynch so far this game. I'll feel much, much better about that trend if DT is a wolf.

My thoughts exactly.

[saldana]

i gotta install my new router, be offline for a few, hopefully jackal gets back soon

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

EF, you are showing an amazing ability to avoid the lynch so far this game. I'll feel much, much better about that trend if DT is a wolf.

I don't have a feel for DT so I would not be surprised either way to be honest.

[The Jackal]

Dinner ran long, then had to pick up ingredients for my famous chili - processing results soon.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by jeff061

Pretty big if on Sal being a wolf though.

If DT is a villager it points a bigger crosshair on EF, this was a lot of last second movement to clear him. Far more than Saldana if I recall.

If I was a wolf I can't see there being that much movement to save me. They would just sever ties and move on I would think, why bother risking standing out.

[jeff061]

True. I think I've only played a single game as a wolf that I recall.

[The Jackal]

DT - 5- (DV 306, jeff 355, J23 360, saldana 363, EF 364)
EF - 3- (hoops 313, CR 324, DT 345)
CR - 1 - (Danny 326)
saldana - 1 - (PF 358)

[The Jackal]

Who will it be today? Things are getting very tense, and no one seems to be any closer to deciding who is truly at fault.

Two have posited their true identities, and there seems to be belief in their stories, as neither head to the guillotine this eve.

In their place, a late candidate, Daddy Torgo.

As he heads to his doom, he shakes his head quietly and makes little effort at resistance, accepting his fate.

Chop.

DaddyTorgo was a vanilla villager!

[The Jackal]

This eve promises to be your most sleepless yet. Is there any hope left?

Night actions due by Friday, 930 AM EST.

[The Jackal]

Just an FYI, I'm going to Philly for the weekend, the deadline tomorrow will get processed when I get back from dinner (no idea when that will be), and then we will have a night phase running until Monday morning. I'm sure people would rather play WW than watch the superbowl, but I'm sorry.

[saldana]

whats the superbowl?

[EagleFan]

This is not going well. Is this a saldana game? Jackal wants to make a run at your record.

We need to run off three straight or it is game over.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

This is not going well. Is this a saldana game? Jackal wants to make a run at your record.

We need to run off three straight or it is game over.

(Villagers have won 5 of the 6 games that I've run, though the two Labyrinth's weren't exactly normal victory conditions)

[jeff061]

Initial thoughts for tomorrow, assuming CR's seer admission plays out and he's not screwing with us.

EF, I'd think there would be at least 1 Wolf in there voting for him. Disagreements?

From that group we have
Hoops: Cleared by seer
CR: Should be seer(pending night)
DT: Dead villager

It's so easy to blame hoops for this shit, cause he's hoops. But we should consider the possibility that he's cunning.

Further more, a longer stretch of an idea I've been toying with since yesterday. Possibly Eagle and Hoops both being wolves and trying to play both sides of the fence somewhat. One's death paints the other in a better light.

Just tossing ideas out there. I'm sure there will be looks at people who piled onto DT as well.

And while it's to late for "vibes". But since voting for J23 I've been getting a "wolf or seer" vibe from him.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

(Villagers have won 5 of the 6 games that I've run, though the two Labyrinth's weren't exactly normal victory conditions)

The streak has to start somewhere...

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by jeff061

Initial thoughts for tomorrow, assuming CR's seer admission plays out and he's not screwing with us.

EF, I'd think there would be at least 1 Wolf in there voting for him. Disagreements?

From that group we have
Hoops: Cleared by seer
CR: Should be seer(pending night)
DT: Dead villager

It's so easy to blame hoops for this shit, cause he's hoops. But we should consider the possibility that he's cunning.

Further more, a longer stretch of an idea I've been toying with since yesterday. Possibly Eagle and Hoops both being wolves and trying to play both sides of the fence somewhat. One's death paints the other in a better light.

Just tossing ideas out there. I'm sure there will be looks at people who piled onto DT as well.

And while it's to late for "vibes". But since voting for J23 I've been getting a "wolf or seer" vibe from him.

The thing is that I haven't been playing the other side against hoops. Since my day one vote on him I have said that I see him leaning towards the good side basd on his vote against me.

[jeff061]

Yeah, just a perception I had for whatever reason. That if one of you died the other would look good for it.

I feel more strongly about Hoops right now because I really do think at least 1 would stay back on you, no matter your guilt. But we have another 24 hours. I'm sure other theories will spring up.

[EagleFan]

All signs point to saldana at this point, in my eyes at least.

If I had to guess I would say J23 as well.

If there is a 3rd, not sure yet (I'll be positive once it's announced... )

[EagleFan]

PF maybe?

Oh, and Lathum has been awfully quiet today...

[EagleFan]

Sorry, probably talking too much. Going to hop on XBL for a while, good night all.

[hoopsguy]

I would really love to be cunning wolf one of these times in a game with a traditional seer role. But that, much like the traditional duke role, continues to evade me.

Anyway, I don't put a ton of stock in EF's reveal. The wolves know what roles are in the game and which are not. Therefore, EF won't be countered tomorrow but that proves very little.

I'm hoping new information emerges tomorrow, but I'm not hopeful at this point. This has been a very bad 24 hours for us, would only have been worse if DT was a roled villager.

[DaddyTorgo]

Wow - wtf!?!?!?

How'd I get lynched with like 5 minutes to go till deadline.

Wow.