WW XCV: Land of the Role Reveals GAME OVER

[Danny]

I'll get that blue thing right on the first try at some point.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by dubb93

VOTE EF

I will be out until deadline. I'm voting for the one guy who seems hell bent on discrediting my reveal.

VOTE EF

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by dubb93

VOTE EF

Sumbitch

VOTE EF
Believe Hoops as seer
Believe PB as BG

[Danny]

I disagree with EF on his voting Dubb idea, but I think he is a poor lynch choice tonight.

[Danny]

Believe Chief Rum as Bodyguard

I already have a PB belief vote in and will use both my supports to try and make sure we believe a BG.

[MartinD]

Originally Posted by MartinD

I was going to vote for lerriuqs before I looked at this more closely - now I'm not so sure...

On second second thoughts (third thoughts? ), I don't like the play of revealing as the cultist almost immediately at the start of the game.

VOTE LERRIUQS

[MartinD]

Originally Posted by Danny

I'll get that blue thing right on the first try at some point.

That little 'Preview Post' button has been very useful for me for that sort of thing...

[Danny]

I'm off, first day of class so if it ends early I might be back for deadline, if not I won't be back.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by MartinD

That little 'Preview Post' button has been very useful for me for that sort of thing...

I've never once used that feature and don't plan to start now. Especially not when I can pound my post counts with fixing posts.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Danny

I've never once used that feature and don't plan to start now. Especially not when I can pad my post counts with fixing posts.

Fixed

[saldana]

wow...i am stunned that people are willing to just blindly follow hoops into making himself the seer....the same people that are "believeing" hoops were, in the last game, ready to lynch him 4 or 5 days in because he was leading everyone around by the nose

as far as the lynch vote goes, dubb is so erratic on day one it is hard to say if he is full of it, meanwhile the i am the cultist thing from backwards squirrel has been bugging me all day

i should be back in time for the deadline should anything need changing.

believe CR as seer
believe PB as BG
vote lynch lerriuqs

[saldana]

believe CR as seer
believe PB as BG
vote lynch lerriuqs

[saldana]

not sure why that didnt work with the html tags......[/scratches head]

[ntndeacon]

I am still reticent to vote for anyone for my belief. One thing to note though so it doesn't sneak up on us later. be wary of believing anyone as Vanilla villager. Iam sure you all got that already. but if a wolf got that role we cant vote him off for a while.

[Racer]

Originally Posted by MartinD

Trying to think through why a player would claim the role of the cultist...

Villager: Finds out the identity of one of the wolves (which could potentially be very useful if the villagers get to endgame with one wolf left...), and get the option to take on the powers of the cultist (win with the wolves, converted rather than killed if target of night kill)

Cultist: Can either become a vanilla villager (a distant second choice?), or find out the identity of all wolves and remain the cultist (i.e. wins with wolves, will be converted). As far as I can tell, it's hard to see why the cultist would choose to convert to being a villager, given the choices available.

Wolf: No real benefit: 1) finds out the identity of a wolf, but has PM rights with the other wolves already, so will know all of the wolves already. 2) wins with the wolves - was going to win with the wolves anyway... 3) conversion if attacked by the wolves - this person is already a wolf! (Of course, a wolf could use this apparent lack of benefit to build trust with the village - would have to sacrifice one of their wolvish colleagues for this to work, though, as the 'believe' will be public, and there would be pressure to reveal the identity of the wolf that's provided with the 'believed' cultist role.)


I was going to vote for lerriuqs before I looked at this more closely - now I'm not so sure...

I'm assuming that if a wolf successfully claims any specific villager role that they gain extra powers. Otherwise, I don't see how they could possibly gain the powers listed on the front page.

Anyways,

Believe Chief Rum as Seer

[ntndeacon]

this is more a vote of keeping things close than anything else. I hope it will allow finagling to happen around deadline.
Vote EF

[Racer]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I am still reticent to vote for anyone for my belief. One thing to note though so it doesn't sneak up on us later. be wary of believing anyone as Vanilla villager. Iam sure you all got that already. but if a wolf got that role we cant vote him off for a while.

Yeah, I think it goes without saying that it would be incredibly stupid to believe anyone as a vanilla villager since it provides no benefit to us and a ton of benefit to the wolves if one of them successfully do it.

[ntndeacon]

I figured everyone would notice it, but better to have it out there that to leave an idea like that assumed.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Dubb jogged my memory on this - I think he is correct on being able to believe two people per day, based on how I'm reading the sections that I bolded. But it would be nice if BK could clarify when he catches up in the thread.

You can believe two people a day. Only one, however, can gain the powers.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

If I'm allowed to believe myself I will. It also represents an option to self-vote without it being a total jag move

BELIEVE HOOPSGUY AS SEER
BELIEVE CHIEF RUM AS SEER

If I'm not allowed to vote for myself then I intend to change the vote to DT. I believe the seer path is the optimal play on D1.

You are allowed to believe yourself.

[Barkeep49]

As of 370:
Lynch:
Dubb – EF (131),
Lerriuqs – USFL (246), DT (249), Martin (356), saldana (362)
DT – Lerriuqs (250), Telle (304), Racer (312), Danny (346)
Martin – Schmidty (306)
EF – Dubb (350), ntn (366)


Believing:
Hoops as seer – dubb (121), Purdue (220), DT (222), Tyrith (314), Racer (317), hoops (341), dub (353)
CR as seer –Telle (286), Hoops (341), saldana (362), Racer (365)
PB as BG – Lerriuqs (251), EF (254), Danny (279), USFL (285), dubb (299), Martin (322), CR (362)
DT as Seer – Lathum (271)
CR as BG – Dany (355)

[Barkeep49]

And in about 10 minutes I'm going to be out until after deadline. I will be back, depending on how the game goes, somewhere between 10:15 and 10:30.

[Tyrith]

I don't know what to make of lerriuqs at this point. It seems that from either side his play was a mistake. The only way it makes any sense to me is that he is actually the cultist, and for now he wants to take our side. Then he would just be getting something unwanted out into the open as quickly as possible.

However, I don't trust that to the extent that I'm going to exclude the 'he made a bad play' option.

[Tyrith]

BELIEVE CHIEF RUM AS SEER

[PurdueBrad]

I need to get a vote in in case we play softball tonight (gonna be nice and muddy if we do). Alright, I don't really have a reason for this other than day one and I think a third candidate will ultimately help with vote data (see last game). And I am going to do the really weird thing too.

vote EF
believe PB as BG

[Lathum]

Vote Lerriuqs

I don't get the whole cultist thing

[Chief Rum]

BELIEVE PB AS BG
BELIEVE CHIEF RUM AS SEER

I am still supportive of the BG being the first believed role we use, although I don't really think it's a bad thing to go with a seer so long as the real BG is paying attention.

I actually am somewhat in the camp of being okay with hoops as the seer, but I do think we should have two options at that spot. So I'll throw my weight behind myself (only guy I can trust of course).

As for voting, I don't really like Schmidty's in and out vote (and on another player who had just posted), and I don't really like the candidates currently up, so I'm going to throw this one on Schmidty.

VOTE SCHMIDTY

I am just stopping in between my jobs, so these votes/believes will be unable to change as things go forward. Good luck to the village.

[Chief Rum]

Shoot, need to bold it. BARKEEP, THIS IS A RE-VOTE, NOT A NEW VOTE.


BELIEVE PB AS BG
BELIEVE CHIEF RUM AS SEER

VOTE SCHMIDTY FOR LYNCH

[PurdueBrad]

Alright guys, out for the infamous bathtime and then a muddy softball game (and thanks to a surgery and two absences, likely my first ever softball pitching experience, guh!). Be back around 9:30-10:00.

My vote is in and my believes are in and I feel comfortable with them although I would have no trouble with CR either.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Shoot, need to bold it. BARKEEP, THIS IS A RE-VOTE, NOT A NEW VOTE.


BELIEVE PB AS BG
BELIEVE CHIEF RUM AS SEER

VOTE SCHMIDTY FOR LYNCH

Just came in for a minute. Was there any actual reason for a lynch vote on me, such as the fact that I haven't been very helpful in the past few games? Or is it random like my vote for Martin was?

Anyway, I need to get out and finish.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm around

[Tyrith]

Sigh, I hate this vote, but it's Day 1 and you have to lynch to win.

VOTE LERRIUSQ

[EagleFan]

unvote dubb
vote DT

[EagleFan]

I don't see the case for a vote on the rodent.

[EagleFan]

As of 384:

lerriuqs 6 – USFLTecmo (246), DaddyTorgo (249), MartinD (356), saldana (362), Lathum (376), Tyrith (382)
DaddyTorgo 5 – lerriuqs (250), Telle (304), Racer (312), Danny (346), EagleFan (383)
MartinD 1 – Schmidty (306)
EagleFan 3 – dubb93 (350), ntndeacon (366), PurdueBrad (375)
Schmidty 1 - Chief Rum (378)


Believing:
hoops as seer 7 – dubb93 (121), PurdueBrad (220), DaddyTorgo (222), Tyrith (314), Racer (317), hoops (341), dubb93 (353)
Chief Rum as seer 6 – Telle (286), hoops (341), saldana (362), Racer (365), Tyrith (374), Chief Rum (378)
PurdueBrad as BG 9 – lerriuqs (251), EagleFan (254), Danny (279), USFLTecmo (285), dubb93 (299), MartinD (322), Chief Rum (362), PurdueBrad (375), Chief Rum (378)
DaddyTorgo as Seer 1 – Lathum (271)
Chief Rum as BG 1 – Danny (355)

[DaddyTorgo]

i have 5 votes on me? WTF

[Lathum]

Unvote believe DT
believe Hoops as seer

Obviously DT isn't getting elected so I may as well ensure hoops does

[Danny]

Class ended early. We have a pretty close split. I'm going to drive him, so I will be on for deadline to look at where things sit

[EagleFan]

The night, she be quiet...

[Danny]

I'm home now, it is real quiet.

[EagleFan]

Everyone now...

Let's
Go
Phillies!!!!
clap
clap
clap clap clap

[EagleFan]

sooooooo close, Utley about 5 feet away from tying it up.

[Danny]

Lets
Go
Lakers!!!!
hannibal
hannibal
hannibal hannibal hannibal

[hoopsguy]

I agree - not only relatively few posts but not many people just hanging out in the thread either.

I should be around up to the deadline and can move my vote if there is a compelling reason to do so. But for now I'm going to

VOTE LERRIUQS

[Danny]

Under believe PB, Chief Rum is listed twice, is that the wrong name listed or is it 8-8 right now?

[Danny]

Ok, it's wrong name, the first one should be Saldana

[hoopsguy]

362 is Saldana, not Chief Rum.

[Danny]

As of 396:

lerriuqs 7 – USFLTecmo (246), DaddyTorgo (249), MartinD (356), saldana (362), Lathum (376), Tyrith (382), Hoops (394)
DaddyTorgo 5 – lerriuqs (250), Telle (304), Racer (312), Danny (346), EagleFan (383)
MartinD 1 – Schmidty (306)
EagleFan 3 – dubb93 (350), ntndeacon (366), PurdueBrad (375)
Schmidty 1 - Chief Rum (378)


Believing:
hoops as seer 8 – dubb93 (121), PurdueBrad (220), DaddyTorgo (222), Tyrith (314), Racer (317), hoops (341), dubb93 (353), Lathum (387)
Chief Rum as seer 6 – Telle (286), hoops (341), saldana (362), Racer (365), Tyrith (374), Chief Rum (378)
PurdueBrad as BG 9 – lerriuqs (251), EagleFan (254), Danny (279), USFLTecmo (285), dubb93 (299), MartinD (322), Saldana (362), PurdueBrad (375), Chief Rum (378)
DaddyTorgo as Seer 1 – Lathum (271)
Chief Rum as BG 1 – Danny (355)

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

362 is Saldana, not Chief Rum.

sorry, copied it from BK's.

[Danny]

Apparently if you don't let people talk about their roles, they post a lot. If you let people say whatever they want about roles, they only post a little