Maximum Football???

[MalcPow]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

A Maximum computer?

Oooh I want one with eighty USB ports, an edible keyboard, and a dual-purpose hamster cage/monitor.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by MalcPow

Oooh I want one with eighty USB ports, an edible keyboard, and a dual-purpose hamster cage/monitor.

No, no USB ports. No upgrading allowed. But it does come with a 623-key keyboard.

[watravaler]

Am I the only that likes the idea of a rookie free agent pool in place of a draft? Takes managing the salary to a different level. Oh, and the NFL draft goes against all the principles of capitalism...

[Buzzbee]

Originally Posted by MalcPow

Oooh I want one with eighty USB ports, an edible keyboard, and a dual-purpose hamster cage/monitor.

Yeah, but it'll cost $6,289.74. Canadian.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Buzzbee

Yeah, but it'll cost $6,289.74. Canadian.

And it'll be released later this year.
Or next year.
Or maybe the next year.
Or ...

[SFL Cat]

Actually, it would have been released one year ago today, but due to heavy customer input, they ended up redesigning the outer case so it would look ultra kewl!

[Buzzbee]

Originally Posted by SFL Cat

Actually, it would have been released one year ago today, but due to heavy customer input, they ended up redesigning the outer case so it would look ultra kewl!

I thought it was because they were changing the hamster cage/monitor to handle a whole family of hamsters, rather than just one.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by watravaler

Takes managing the salary to a different level.

Does it even have a financial component?

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Does it even have a financial component?

it's coming, it's coming. geez settle down.

[Bee]

Originally Posted by Oilers9911

You know what? Buy it, don't buy it, who gives a shit? Just shut up about it. And who is jerking you off? If you're not satisfied with the progress of the game then don't go to the website, don't read about it, just forget it. Seven pages of posts ranting about this game is ridiculous. For Christ sakes people move the hell on.

If you feel that strongly, then perhaps you should take your own advice and ..."don't go to the website, don't read about it, just forget it." Really if it bothers you then "For Christ sakes people move the hell on."

[Bee]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Does it even have a financial component?

I think there's a field in the database for financials...I believe entitled "fill in the blank". You can adjust it however you wish. Really adds flexibility to the career play.

[moriarty]

This is probably the first game I've ever been tempted to buy just to be able to bash on it. Does that make me a bad person? ... or is this the genius behind his design philosophy?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by watravaler

Am I the only that likes the idea of a rookie free agent pool in place of a draft? Takes managing the salary to a different level. Oh, and the NFL draft goes against all the principles of capitalism...

From what I understood, it's not a rookie free agent pool. It's a draft comprising all the rookies plus all the non-rookie free agents. Then again, if there's no financial component, maybe there's no non-rookie free agents, either.

I would like to see what you've described in the NFL or a text sim, but it doesn't seem like what's in this game. Granted, I've only skimmed this thread.

For the record, before this one, my only post in this thread had been about how lame those old "electronic football" vibrating board games were, so I hadn't been "obsessing" about the game. However, I know cthomer already volunteered, but I think it would be great fun to be the FOFC guinea pig for this game, and I want the spot behind him, in case he bows out!

[ahbrady]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Does it even have a financial component?

Great, now they'll have to add that. There goes another year or two.

[Bee]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

From what I understood, it's not a rookie free agent pool. It's a draft comprising all the rookies plus all the non-rookie free agents. Then again, if there's no financial component, maybe there's no non-rookie free agents, either.

That's my understanding as well. What I don't get is IF there's no contract negotiations, how does the game determine length of contract and when/if a player is a free agent?

Every year all the free agents goes into the "draft" and then some new players are thrown in as well. When you draft someone, does he automatically sign for X number of years? Just seems weird to me.

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by Bee

That's my understanding as well. What I don't get is IF there's no contract negotiations, how does the game determine length of contract and when/if a player is a free agent?

Remember, the game is flexible. That's the masthead selling point here.

So, you get two options how to determine these things -- the game currently comes with a hat, or wait for M-F2, where you can link to a random number generator.

[Bee]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

Remember, the game is flexible. That's the masthead selling point here.

So, you get two options how to determine these things -- the game currently comes with a hat, or wait for M-F2, where you can link to a random number generator.

The hat might delay the game by another year...and of course, you'll have to provide your own numbers to put in it.

[bryce]

I'd guess it's like FBPro, where the players stay on your team until you cut them or they retire. So the free agents would just be the spares who were cut.. But I have no basis for that, just a straight up guess.

[Bee]

Originally Posted by bryce

I'd guess it's like FBPro, where the players stay on your team until you cut them or they retire. So the free agents would just be the spares who were cut.. But I have no basis for that, just a straight up guess.

That's probably right, although I liked the hat idea better.

[FBPro]

......Are the above posts taking my screen name in vain? Oh, never mind.....just wondering do you think we'll ever see the following topic:
"Alright boyz, it's the Maximum Football First Impressions thread!"?????

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by FBPro

......Are the above posts taking my screen name in vain? Oh, never mind.....just wondering do you think we'll ever see the following topic:
"Alright boyz, it's the Maximum Football First Impressions thread!"?????

We did for Baseball Mogul 2006

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

We did for Baseball Mogul 2006

Not sure we'll see that again.

[Apathetic Lurker]

Guys, calm down or you will get mental hernias from all the huffing and puffing!!!


First of all, from what I read over at the Matrix forum and the faq i am understanding this thing is gonna be a "football" simulator NOT an "NFL" simulator. If Dave said it was nfl or cfl based then yes all the concerns brought up about salary cap ,draft,finances etc are very valid.But he didn't. I persoally think that finances are very important but it's his call. It's his damn game afterall. Maybe someone will get a plugin financial simulator out there.

If I want "NFL" I will play FOF or TPF even though stats wise TPF blows for me as it is not "NFL realistic". I an intrigued by the possibilities that MF gives me. For shits and giggles I might enjoy making a 50 team semi-pro league based in Uzbekistan if I want. Not that I want to do that but at least I should be able to do that whereas in FOF or TPF I can't.


Yeah, dave's attitude and defensiveness are atrocious, but he is defending his thing from being flamed. I seem to recall one individual here who defended his reasons for doing funky things in a slighty less atrocious manner but still came about as a stuffed shirt.

I might be your guinea pig for this thing but will wait till it's been out and patched since I am sure it will need at least 3-4 patched to run corretly

'nuff said.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Apatheric Lurker

I am sure it will need at least 3-4 patched to run corretly

'nuff said.

So another 15-20 years ....

[cthomer5000]

These quotes really make it sound like a release will be coming at annnnnyyyy minute:

Originally Posted by David Winter

The fans are part of the stadium design.

I am working on a stadium environment system that will hopefully address a lot of issues with the stadiums. The high resolution ones are known to be hard on system resources. They're not interactive (the fans don't move). They're just rather bland.

I am certainly planning on addressing those issues in updates to the game.

David

Originally Posted by David Winter

I really want to completely rebuild the way the stadiums and whole environment system works. While the base 3D models could be done in pretty much any 3D modeller, it's more than likely going to require some sort of editor or custom file format.

How this all shakes out is not known at this point.

edit: both of those posts are from yesterday

[Bee]

Yep...this sounds promising:

Guys,

Look, we have a release date now - around January 31st, the beginning of SuperBowl week. Let's head the discussion towards discussing what Maximum-Football has to offer and what you might like to see in it that's not in the list of announced features. Thanks.

Regards,

- Erik

Oh...nevermind that's from 2004.

[Apathetic Lurker]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

So another 15-20 years ....

It will be the perfect present for my retirement party then!

[KWhit]

A preview of sorts for the game. If this doesn't get you fired up and excited about the game's release, nothing will!

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm...39&mpage=1&key=��


In his first game ever:

The game ended with a score of 30-10, Washington on top with over 350 yards rushing and less than 100 passing- the majority of the yardage coming in the second Q.

And then in game 2:

I decided to set Washinton to auto for their next game and see how the computer would handle them. To my shock, while Washington still won by a good margin (27-13) the stats were much different from my coaching! 407 yards passing and 125 rushing.

Holy cow!!!!! This guy must be a hell of a player! In the first 2 games he ever played he had:
Game 1: 350 rushing yards.
Game 2: 407 passing yards.

At least we know the sim engine is solid!

[digamma]

Originally Posted by KWhit

A preview of sorts for the game. If this doesn't get you fired up and excited about the game's release, nothing will!

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm...39&mpage=1&key=��

My favorite quote from that article:

In order to write competantly about it for press stuff I was forced by the Matrix staff to throw down and show 'em who's boss when it comes to a pigskin.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by KWhit

A preview of sorts for the game. If this doesn't get you fired up and excited about the game's release, nothing will!

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm...39&mpage=1&key=􂌃

Wow, he sounds really excited about the game. Who wrote this article...

Joseph Lieberman
Public Relations and Marketing Manager

Guess what he gets paid to do.

[yabanci]

"while the animation isn't going to knock anyone's socks off"

great quote from the public relations and marketing manager....

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by yabanci

"while the animation isn't going to knock anyone's socks off"

great quote from the public relations and marketing manager....

I caught that too. It must be really bad for him to say that.

[Apathetic Lurker]

well, at least he is honest

[John Galt]

Originally Posted by Apatheric Lurker

well, at least he is honest

BTW, what is an "apatheric" lurker? Did you mean to say "apathetic" or is "apatheric" some word I've never heard before?

[Eaglesfan27]

I think Apathetic lurker has said before that it was supposed to be "apathetic" but he couldn't generate the enthusiasm to correct the handle.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I think Apathetic lurker has said before that it was supposed to be "apathetic" but he couldn't generate the enthusiasm to correct the handle.

[John Galt]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I think Apathetic lurker has said before that it was supposed to be "apathetic" but he couldn't generate the enthusiasm to correct the handle.

[Bee]

I like the PR guys follow up quote even better:

Well in in the standings there were a few teams that were moving the ball a great deal, though I was the only one in the 400 range. There were a couple teams in the 300s and most in the 100-200s.

I can't really account for that fluke. I certainly can't pass 400 yards so far with this team... I can't even break 100

-Joe

Umm....you can't even get 100 yards passing when you run the team? That's not good.

[Oilers9911]

Originally Posted by Bee

I like the PR guys follow up quote even better:



Umm....you can't even get 100 yards passing when you run the team? That's not good.

Big deal, so the poor bastard has J.P. Losman at QB, leave him alone.

[Apathetic Lurker]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I think Apathetic lurker has said before that it was supposed to be "apathetic" but he couldn't generate the enthusiasm to correct the handle.

Yup, completely apathetic to the whole concept of fixin something that should be fixed, one day, maybe another day or next year


Ive been here for about 5 yrs as AP and before as phatguy and only have 100 or so posts. maybe time to become PhatlazyLurker

maybe another day as apathy has set in tonight, just like last night and the night before...........

[Apathetic Lurker]

MaxFB has the possibility to become the greatest semi-pro football simulator in the history of pc sports titles

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by Apatheric Lurker

Ive been here for about 5 yrs as AP...

Apatheric Lurker
H.S. Freshman Team

Join Date: Apr 2004

[sovereignstar]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

Read the whole sentence U-tep. There is a particular conjunction involved.

[JeeberD]

Ah, so five years combined? I was thinking that the five years didn't include his "phatguy" time...

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

Ah, so five years combined? I was thinking that the five years didn't include his "phatguy" time...

Reading it, I can see how you would think that it was 5 years as AP. That is how it reads to me as well.

[sovereignstar]

Yes, it's written poorly, but it makes no sense that way.

[JeeberD]

Thus the smilie...

[sovereignstar]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

Thus the smilie...

Your confusion was almost worth a post.

[QuikSand]

You guys are ruining this thread. Quit it.


More hilarity, please.

[sovereignstar]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

You guys are ruining this thread. Quit it.


More hilarity, please.

Maximum Football.. geesh. It should be MaxiPad Football. Oh snap!