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Old 09-05-2007, 10:45 PM   #351
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DT's most probably the "duke" role.

*ding ding* winner
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:46 PM   #352
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holy crappa. I'm not the vote-winner.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:46 PM   #353
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True. But the hidden convert wouldn't have an item to help block wolf attacks now, would he?

Because he wouldn't lie about that too?
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:47 PM   #354
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:47 PM   #355
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MOTHER FUCKER.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:47 PM   #356
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holy crappa. I'm not the vote-winner.

We have fucked it up.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:47 PM   #357
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This seems like sound advice unless you are wolf trying to defend another wolf's creative tactically approach...

I don't think that Crim, in his second game, would take that approach. It would be kinda cool if he deked me out here, but I'll go with the more likely approach (the one I outlined with him as a villager) until given more reasons to think otherwise.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:50 PM   #358
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We have fucked it up.

to put it mildly
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:50 PM   #359
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Great work fellas.

Sorry Kyle
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:51 PM   #360
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This was not what I needed after a softball slaughter. My whole day has been a flustercuck now! Guess I'm going to have to play some Madden or Call of Duty.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:52 PM   #361
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After the stunning death of Lathum you all determine there are wolves in your midst. The accusations fly but in the end it is determined RPIFan must be a wolf. You all descend on him and savegly beat him. As you pummel him to death you realize there are car keys and numbeered tickets falling from his jacket.

After it is to late you realize RPIFan was the valet!!

You all look around at each other seemingly not making eye contact.

Night actions coming shortly
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:54 PM   #362
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Ummm......oh Nee-oooonnnnnnnn.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:54 PM   #363
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:54 PM   #364
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Someone's got some 'splanin' to do.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:54 PM   #365
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:55 PM   #366
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Oh man. Oh man. FUCK.

Sorry guys. This is a mjor clusterfuck in the works.

I don't know how fucked up this is.

I'm a fucking villager, and yeah, you were right, I pulled out a ballsy move. Shit.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:55 PM   #367
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Well nice.. I also passed Neon my golf club last night. Well guess my first instinct was better than my second one.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:56 PM   #368
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Oh man. Oh man. FUCK.

Sorry guys. This is a mjor clusterfuck in the works.

I don't know how fucked up this is.

I'm a fucking villager, and yeah, you were right, I pulled out a ballsy move. Shit.

Guess you get to die tommorrow to prove it.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:56 PM   #369
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We have fucked it up.

Seems to me, we got ourselves a one-for-one. Your reveal has betrayed your wolfiness.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:56 PM   #370
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VOTE LYNCH NEON_CHAOS

doesn't matter if you're a villager. You have to pay the piper
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:57 PM   #371
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WTF?!?! Neon...crap. Alan T I'm sorry I cast my vote for you now even though you didn't lose the lynch. I learned a bad lesson in trust.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:57 PM   #372
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Oh man. Oh man. FUCK.

Sorry guys. This is a mjor clusterfuck in the works.

I don't know how fucked up this is.

I'm a fucking villager, and yeah, you were right, I pulled out a ballsy move. Shit.

So. You're a villager, and you put all of our roles at risk by claiming otherwise and we killed our seer instead of taking one for the team.

Guess I'm not voting DT tomorrow.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:58 PM   #373
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I'm in with DT on this.

Vote Neon Chaos for Thursday night.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:58 PM   #374
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Sigh - so are there any good roles that are not out on the table at this point?

Sorry about that, RPI - will be interested in talking with you in post-game about how things went down as the deadline approached (assuming you were around for it).
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:58 PM   #375
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Wow, just checking in. Skimming, it seems like some crazy stuff happened. I'll be active tomorrow morning.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:58 PM   #376
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I don't know what happened, but it was clearly eventful
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:58 PM   #377
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vote me if you want everyone. I'll duke the lynch onto neon, that way we at least get the benefit of using my power before the wolves munch on me, as they now know that i'm a trusted role.

not sure why that'd necessarily be better than just voting neon...but I guess it would be if the wolves left me alive, then you'd all have a reason to trust me.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:58 PM   #378
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Seems to me, we got ourselves a one-for-one. Your reveal has betrayed your wolfiness.

And... I'm still late to the party! Thought I'd be the first to gloat over your impending noosefulness, but I see I've been bested again!
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:59 PM   #379
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This has been a catastrophe of epic proportions. Crap.

I wouldn't hold it against you guys to vote for me. But I'm a villager and I pulled off one heck of ballsy move... but apparently it backfired. Looks like I'm a dead man tomorrow.

Jeez.

At least look into the fact that I do have protection against the Wolves. Heck, I'll even pass it tomorrow night to anyone who wants it, before I die.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:00 PM   #380
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Neon, let me know how that scan turns out
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:00 PM   #381
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This has been a catastrophe of epic proportions.

That's an understatement.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:01 PM   #382
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This has been a catastrophe of epic proportions. Crap.

I wouldn't hold it against you guys to vote for me. But I'm a villager and I pulled off one heck of ballsy move... but apparently it backfired. Looks like I'm a dead man tomorrow.

Jeez.

At least look into the fact that I do have protection against the Wolves. Heck, I'll even pass it tomorrow night to anyone who wants it, before I die.

dude. You didn't pull a ballsy move. A ballsy move would be to claim to be the duke or something. Not to claim to be the most powerful good-role in the game. At least choose a less-powerful role...or better yet...take one for the team. We've all done it. There's no shame in it.

Either you're a wolf, or you're about to learn your lesson though.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:02 PM   #383
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The night goes by slowly with images of RPIFan dying fresh in your minds. When you wake up the next morning and go to the bar you look around and realize everyone is still here.

You all seem a bit confused, maybe this is a positive turn of events.

Day 2 has begun. Deadline 10:30 PM EST
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:03 PM   #384
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vote me if you want everyone. I'll duke the lynch onto neon, that way we at least get the benefit of using my power before the wolves munch on me, as they now know that i'm a trusted role.

not sure why that'd necessarily be better than just voting neon...but I guess it would be if the wolves left me alive, then you'd all have a reason to trust me.

I like it. You'll prove you're a human, Neon dies, and actually once your power is used, there's no point in the wolves killing you, right?

VOTE DADDY TORGO (cuz he said to!)
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:03 PM   #385
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Was an item used? I would imagine we would have seen something. I guess the wolves lie in wait then
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:03 PM   #386
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I vote it's not positive and RendeR was the evil convert and has been converted.

And we're in a bad bad way
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:04 PM   #387
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Wow.. skimming quickly to catch up.. looks like there's just one thing to do:

VOTE NEON_CHAOS
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:04 PM   #388
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ITEMS

Throughout the game there are items. If you choose to use an item you must PM me prior to the deadline. You may pass an item to another player by sending me a PM. All items are a 1 time use only and will be removed from the game after use. New items may be introduced or added as the game moves allong

I don't see anything in there that suggests that a wolf could not have an item - the precedent certainly suggests that they can start with items in these types of games. Plus we would have to leave you alive to pass the item - it is a stone-cold lock that the wolves would not take you out in these game even if you were a villager because of the situation.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:04 PM   #389
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I like it. You'll prove you're a human, Neon dies, and actually once your power is used, there's no point in the wolves killing you, right?

VOTE DADDY TORGO (cuz he said to!)


well there'd be a point to them killing me because i'm cleared at that point, but I wouldn't think it's likely to happen. And it seems more fun than just voting neon, lynching him, and having the wolves night-kill me without using my ability.

either way
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:04 PM   #390
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So Neon likely was the convert as someone else (Forget who) suggested.. and they attacked him last night thinking he was the seer and ended up converting him.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:05 PM   #391
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conversion?
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:06 PM   #392
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hmmm alan...that could be it.

either way...neon dies
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:07 PM   #393
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:07 PM   #394
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I like it. You'll prove you're a human, Neon dies, and actually once your power is used, there's no point in the wolves killing you, right?

VOTE DADDY TORGO (cuz he said to!)

Well, at that point DT becomes fully trusted and that is normally something wolves don't like.

I'm fine with this plan, but I'll hold off on the vote until a few more people have the opportunity to share "night phase" information.

Also, I'm going to be incommunicado tomorrow during the day as I won't have access from about 8AM EST until shortly before deadline. After that I should have normal availability the rest of the way.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:11 PM   #395
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:11 PM   #396
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Guys, I didn't use the serving tray.

I am NOT the convert. The Bodyguard must have successfully blocked the attack.

I have the Golf Club and the Serving Tray now.

You guys can feel free to lynch me. I'll probably pass these along to whoever wants it.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:11 PM   #397
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Even if Neon is the convert, there are a couple of possibilities:

1) bodyguard block
2) his tray did something useful

I'm having a hard time imagining the wolves NOT going after Neon last night, BUT in the last game Barkeep described going after Lathum the day he revealed as a "ballsy play" so there may be some people who see it differently.

At any rate I'd like to hear from Neon about his night before casting my vote.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:13 PM   #398
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vote me if you want everyone. I'll duke the lynch onto neon, that way we at least get the benefit of using my power before the wolves munch on me, as they now know that i'm a trusted role.

not sure why that'd necessarily be better than just voting neon...but I guess it would be if the wolves left me alive, then you'd all have a reason to trust me.

Not a bad idea. If you are telling the truth you've outed yourself. If we vote you, you can prove your powers by voting out NC and you've become a friend to the villagers for a bit. You're obviously a person of interest now too, like NC was and it bit him in the ass.

A few possibilies

1) We all vote for NC
a)He's a wolf, yay for us
b)He's a villegar, we've reduced our numbers again
**********This is where it gets fun***************
2) We all vote for Daddy Torgo
a)He is who he says he is and changes votes to NC.
b)He's lying as well and we've killed a wolf
3) We vote for someone else which I don't think is an option

Now, I like #2 myself. Say DaddyTorgo is also lying and he's a wolf. We basically killed another villager (NC) by voting for him and have no way to prove that Torgo is who he says he is. He's already saying he's a certain character so it's kind of out there already. We have nothing to lose by voting for DT because if he's telling the truth we still kill NC. If he's lying he gets lynched himself and we can all at least vote for Neon the next day.

I'm not saying I think Neon is innocent. He lied and obviously got busted for it big time but now we can someone else for sure in daddy torgo and we could possibly still find out who NC is...
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:14 PM   #399
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What is "night phase" information?

Sorry, still trying to learn as I go. I guess it's fitting this is at a golf course as that is my eternal mantra while playing (or attempting to play) golf.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:14 PM   #400
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So Neon likely was the convert as someone else (Forget who) suggested.. and they attacked him last night thinking he was the seer and ended up converting him.

Oh. this makes more snese than what I was thinking. I just thought he was a wolf, but it would make more sense your way. Since (as I understand it) the wolves would have to put their night kill PM in before knowing thte results of RPI's lynching, they wouldn't have known that Neon wan't the seer.

Kind of a good play then, by N-C, if ya think about it. As the Goth, he knew the wolves' identltiy, so he'd be able to pretend-scan good players, and build some trust. Even after the wolves converted him, he could still play the same fake role, never letting on that he had secret hair in secret places.

I conclude that Neon DID make a ballsy move, but not in a villager-friendly way. In a weird sense, us lynching the seer saved us from Neon possibly getting a chance to work against us for a few more days, I'm thinking.
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