WW CII Salem Witch Trials GAME OVER - VILLAGE WINS - Page 8

MartinD · 10-02-2009, 01:11 AM

While I can't be sure that this is the right move, it's usually not a good sign when someone starts making multiple angry posts in an attempt to defend themselves...

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

Schmidty · 10-02-2009, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

are we seriously in this same mess again? how this blows.

How does this blow?

We've got a guaranteed wolf today or tomorrow. I'd say that's pretty damned good.

Lathum · 10-02-2009, 01:22 AM

If I was the seer I would scan J23, not a fan of his theory to keep them both alive

Schmidty · 10-02-2009, 01:30 AM

If there's a Sorcerer, he only knows who the wolves are, but they don't know who he is, correct? That's way I've always thought of it.

I'm just thinking that if the wolves knew somehow that one of them were the Sorcerer, they wouldn't object to the battle.

Schmidty · 10-02-2009, 01:32 AM

Hey MartinD - I just saw you in the thread. You have 3 posts. Do you have anything to say?

I'd just like to get other views since we have had the same people posting a lot.

Darth Vilus · 10-02-2009, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

How does this blow?

We've got a guaranteed wolf today or tomorrow. I'd say that's pretty damned good.

It's just really annoying getting dragged into the same thing again with these two

Schmidty · 10-02-2009, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

It's just really annoying getting dragged into the same thing again with these two

I'd do it every game if we can bag a wolf.

Schmidty · 10-02-2009, 01:45 AM

I love it when there are 2 or more guests visiting the WW forum. Hmmmm....I wonder if one of them is a wolf?

claphamsa · 10-02-2009, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

I'd do it every game if we can bag a wolf.

hopefully i can use this as the impetuous to finally quit my WW addiction.

J23 · 10-02-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

If I was the seer I would scan J23, not a fan of his theory to keep them both alive

I'd welcome a scan, though I don't think the seer should be revealing anytime soon unless they are exceedingly lucky.

J23 · 10-02-2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I am not a fan of this but I will keep the reasons to myself for now.

For arguments sake who do you suggest we vote than?

I was probably going to look at those who moved to save Clap like GE or Schmidty. We know that one of them is bad, and Jackal and he were both on the line at the end of the day. While Pass and KWhit (who we now know were both good)also moved their vote at the end, I think those votes at the end stand out to me the most.

J23 · 10-02-2009, 09:42 AM

Just to clarity, the "We know one of them is bad" is refering to Clap or Jackal, not GE or Schidty.

The Jackal · 10-02-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

It's just really annoying getting dragged into the same thing again with these two

Tell me about it!

The Jackal · 10-02-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

If there's a Sorcerer, he only knows who the wolves are, but they don't know who he is, correct? That's way I've always thought of it.

I'm just thinking that if the wolves knew somehow that one of them were the Sorcerer, they wouldn't object to the battle.

Right. The wolves never know who the cultist/sorceror is before the game starts.

PurdueBrad · 10-02-2009, 10:58 AM

Never done one of these, so I hope I didn't screw it up and it pastes okay.

Vote Chart, Day 1>>

18- Pass votes PB>>

21- PB votes Pass>>

22- Clap votes Jackal>>

25- Jackal votes Claph (1-1-1-1)>>

41- Martin D votes Claph (1-1-1-2)>>

70- Schmidty votes PB (2-1-1-2)>>

73- Pass unvotes PB, votes Claph (1-1-1-3)>>

74- Schmidty unvotes PB (1-1-3)>>

82- KWhit votes Jackal (1-2-3)>>

85- Abe votes Claph (1-2-4)>>

88- Abe unvotes Claph (1-2-3)>>

91- J23 votes Jackal (1-3-3)>>

92- Jackal unvotes Claph (1-3-2)>>

95- Lathum votes Pass (2-3-2)>>

101- Schmidty votes Abe (2-3-2-1)>>

102- Schmidty unvotes Abe (2-3-2)>>

105- Pass unvotes Claph, votes Jackal (2-4-1)>>

108- Jackal votes Pass (3-4-1)>>

112- J23 unvotes Jackal (3-3-1)>>

115- Pass unvotes Jackal, votes J23 (3-2-1-1)>>

116- Abe votes Claph (3-2-2-1)>>

125- Claph unvotes Jackal, votes Abe (3-1-2-1-1)>>

127- Claph unvotes Abe, votes Pass (4-1-2-1)>>

130- Danny votes Claph (4-1-3-1)>>

137- Telle votes Jackal (4-2-3-1)>>

153- J23 votes Clap (4-2-4-1)>>

154- GE votes Clap (4-2-5-1)>>

169- Clap unvotes Pass, votes Jackal (3-3-5-1)>>

172- Darth votes Pass (4-3-5-1)>>

175- Lerriuqs votes Jackal (4-4-5-1)>>

198- Schmidty votes Claph (4-4-6-1)>>

201 CLAPH REVEALS>>

204- Pass unvotes J23, votes Jackal (4-5-6)>>

208- GE unvotes Claph, votes Pass (5-5-5)>>

211- Schmidty unvotes Claph, votes Jackal (5-6-4)>>

214- KWhit unvotes Jackal, votes Pass (6-5-4)

PurdueBrad · 10-02-2009, 10:58 AM

Stupid smileys, figured that would happen. Hope the rest is okay to work with.

PurdueBrad · 10-02-2009, 10:59 AM

If somebody knows a better way to do that, feel free to copy and repaste and then if Autumn is cool with it, I can delete the post with all the *&$%ing smileys.

J23 · 10-02-2009, 11:05 AM

Odd, I don't see any smileys in your post.

PurdueBrad · 10-02-2009, 11:11 AM

Good, maybe it's just on my screen then, which I would be fine with.

Autumn · 10-02-2009, 11:14 AM

I can see the smileys, probably depends on your setting or theme. It's fine to leave them though, you need a spot of brightness in your dark, dark day.

The Jackal · 10-02-2009, 11:15 AM

It's such a happy post, PB! You're excited about hockey!

PurdueBrad · 10-02-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

It's such a happy post, PB! You're excited about hockey!

GO PENGUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am teaching today in my Sidney Crosby Winter Classic jersey and have gotten quite a few compliments from my Blackhawk loving students.

The Jackal · 10-02-2009, 11:19 AM

YouTube - 2009 God Bless America Lauren Hart Kate Smith duet

GoldenEagle · 10-02-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Stupid smileys, figured that would happen. Hope the rest is okay to work with.

PB is clearing me so there are two smiley faces after my name

Lathum · 10-02-2009, 11:33 AM

Vote Clap

I am out until after deadline.

Lathum · 10-02-2009, 11:47 AM

ok, checking back in real quick after my shower ( I am naked and dripping wet)

I think it is possible both Jackal and Clap are wolves. They knew it was likely going to be between them and this would be a great way to buy Jackal a few days while possible outing the BG.

Not willing to go down that path just yet, but keeping it in the back of my mind.

lerriuqs · 10-02-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

ok, checking back in real quick after my shower ( I am naked and dripping wet)

I think it is possible both Jackal and Clap are wolves. They knew it was likely going to be between them and this would be a great way to buy Jackal a few days while possible outing the BG.

Not willing to go down that path just yet, but keeping it in the back of my mind.

Given they're both claiming BG, we should find out tonight...The one we don't lynch should be dead.

J23 · 10-02-2009, 11:55 AM

Jackal,
Something sticks out as odd to me, and maybe you can help make sense of it.

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

I had contemplated revealing for a while yesterday but decided to hope I'd squeak through and stay under the radar for a bit with enough heat that the wolves wouldnt target me for a NK - but then that run happened one me while I was gone, wonderful, and clap has to go out and fake reveal as my role. Why did you have to do that, clap? Grr.

Why would you have thought about revealing yesterday when you were away from the thread between 1:30 (when the vote count was Clap 5 -Pass 4- Jackal 2) up until 4:30 when you got back to catch up with the thread. Were you saying that you felt that a run was going to happen while you were away or something? That just doesn't make sense to me.

I'm still leaning towards believing you over Clap, but that might be me not knowing when "Clap is just being Clap" as a lot of people call it.

The Jackal · 10-02-2009, 12:01 PM

J - I was considering revealing earlier than that when I had at least 3 votes, but Pass and clap moved away from me and I only had two (Telle and KWhit) when I left, so I thought I'd be safe for the day.

GoldenEagle · 10-02-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

The way the vote turned out day 1, it was clear I was going to be the main target for lynching today, and I decided to reveal straight off instead of waiting until near the deadline and hoping people would look another way. And I know that clap is not the BG, which suggests he is a wolf, and it seems a decent tradeoff, considering I was going to be drawing heat from the village anyways.

I don't buy this. The day 1 votes are pretty random and I think it is entirely possible that you would not even been a candidate today. You are going to be useless to the village if you are telling the truth in a couple of days time. I would let clap go ahead and keep telling his story about being the bodyguard while he mysteriously stays alive. The truth would have come out.

Instead, I am buying more into Lathum's theory that both of you may be wolves. It would make sense to sacrifice clap to gain trust for yourself. In fact, this theory was used last game with PB and whoever he suspected in the Alan T PM conversation.

Either way, it looks like a good chance that clap is a wolf and a 50/50 chance that you are as well.

VOTE claphasma

The Jackal · 10-02-2009, 12:08 PM

GE - People would have voted for me because it would have told the most about the day 1 vote, since we already knew what Pass was and we'd find out what clap was very soon (if he was telling the truth, which he wasn't).

I made the call on a wealth of experience in these games, and also because I didn't want to reveal too late because it would have been looked upon much more skeptically, like I was just doing it to save myself (as in my fake reveal last game). If you dislike my play from the BG standpoint, I'm sorry, but it's getting us a bad guy. And hopefully the wolves pick wrong when it comes to the NK tonight.

lerriuqs · 10-02-2009, 12:24 PM

Vote clap

Let's see where this goes...

Telle · 10-02-2009, 12:31 PM

I don't quite understand why Jackal's story is much more believable than clap's. I think they both suck. But I have too much of a headache right now to really delve deeper so I'll just go with the village on this one.

vote claphamsa

MartinD · 10-02-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Hey MartinD - I just saw you in the thread. You have 3 posts. Do you have anything to say?

I'd just like to get other views since we have had the same people posting a lot.

Sorry for not replying earlier - only have about half an hour over breakfast to catch up on what's been happening, and that isn't enough time to be able to do much more than put up a quick post.

MartinD · 10-02-2009, 01:01 PM

Are we really sure that we want to make this so one-sided? A vote like this is basically of no use to anyone further down the line for analysis purposes.

Schmidty · 10-02-2009, 01:10 PM

I'm just checking in, but I'll be back long before deadline. I hope a lot of people will be around today.

The Jackal · 10-02-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinD

Are we really sure that we want to make this so one-sided? A vote like this is basically of no use to anyone further down the line for analysis purposes.

It'll be interesting to see when people voted for clap when he turns up as a wolf. I'd imagine there's at least one wolf amongst the final few voters and one amongst the first few.

The Jackal · 10-02-2009, 01:12 PM

Not that vote analysis like that is decisive evidence, but it will be interesting when the numbers dwindle.

J23 · 10-02-2009, 01:18 PM

I haven't put in a vote simply because I don't think my vote matters currently. I think Clap is likely a wolf, but as I brought up earlier, I don't know if lynching him gives us much more information than we already had.

Anyway, I'll throw a vote on someone else even though there is no chance of them being lynched at this point. I think Jackal's reveal made sense if he is in fact the BG, and disagree with GE's arguement above. That combined with his late vote on day1 during the the save Clap campaign, leads me to

Vote GoldenEagle

J23 · 10-02-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I think we can learn a TON from this vote. IMO the logical lynch candidate tomorrow barring any information is Jackal. That will tell us a lot about the purpose of peoples votes.

This is the reason I buy that it makes sense for Jackal to have felt threatened, and thus revealed early in the day to get the discussion going rather than doing what Clap did and wait until near deadline with a "omg, help!" type reveal.

I had my own doubts about Jackal that I posted a dozen or so posts ago that Jackal answered, though I haven't gone back to see if his answer satisfies me yet.

Telle · 10-02-2009, 01:23 PM

Votes as of post #389:

9 - claphamsa - The Jackal (275), Abe Sargent (300), Danny (321), Schmidty (334), Darth Vilus (350), MartinD (351), GoldenEagle (380), Lerriuqs (382), Telle (383)
1 - The Jackal - claphamsa (291)
1 - GoldenEagle - J23 (389)

Yet to vote: Lathum, PurdueBrad

The Jackal · 10-02-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by J23

This is the reason I buy that it makes sense for Jackal to have felt threatened, and thus revealed early in the day to get the discussion going rather than doing what Clap did and wait until near deadline with a "omg, help!" type reveal.

I had my own doubts about Jackal that I posted a dozen or so posts ago that Jackal answered, though I haven't gone back to see if his answer satisfies me yet.

Go check it out, it's a good answer.

J23 · 10-02-2009, 01:29 PM

Yeah, just looked (Thanks to PB's post). You were ahead in votes 4-2 over Pass at one point, though I don't know if that's anywhere close to the point you should be thinking about revealing.

The Jackal · 10-02-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by J23

Yeah, just looked (Thanks to PB's post). You were ahead in votes 4-2 over Pass at one point, though I don't know if that's anywhere close to the point you should be thinking about revealing.

Right, and I didn't - the only reason I was considering it is because I knew I was going to be gone at the deadline. I didn't want us to lose a BG because I wasn't able to get on to make the reveal.

Autumn · 10-02-2009, 01:38 PM

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The sun is sinking once again, another desperate night to come. There is much less debate today, the village nearly decided that Claphamsa is a liar, and a witch. The hope flames in your breasts that perhaps this will be the end of the plague on your village, that this will be the end of the killing. However, the sun has not set, and the reverend waits until then to count your votes.

Vote Count as of post 394
Claphamsa 11 TheJackal Danny PurdueBrad AbeSargent Schmidty DarthVilus MartinD Lathum GoldenEagle Lerriuqs Telle
The Jackal 1 Claphamsa
Golden Eagle 1 J23

Danny · 10-02-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by J23

I was probably going to look at those who moved to save Clap like GE or Schmidty. We know that one of them is bad, and Jackal and he were both on the line at the end of the day. While Pass and KWhit (who we now know were both good)also moved their vote at the end, I think those votes at the end stand out to me the most.

People commonly assume this is what wolves do, but for me I'd rather look at the votes that happened early on after the wolf had votes to help establish or prop up alternate candidates. Im not even going to bother until we know which is a wolf now and you do seem to be distracting from the real argument here which should only be about Jackyl and Clap. The rest should not be dealt with until we know which is a wolf.

Danny · 10-02-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

I don't buy this. The day 1 votes are pretty random and I think it is entirely possible that you would not even been a candidate today. You are going to be useless to the village if you are telling the truth in a couple of days time. I would let clap go ahead and keep telling his story about being the bodyguard while he mysteriously stays alive. The truth would have come out.

Instead, I am buying more into Lathum's theory that both of you may be wolves. It would make sense to sacrifice clap to gain trust for yourself. In fact, this theory was used last game with PB and whoever he suspected in the Alan T PM conversation.

Either way, it looks like a good chance that clap is a wolf and a 50/50 chance that you are as well.

VOTE claphasma

I'd say no chance they are both wolves as we would then just have a third reveal and know two out of three were wolves. Not smart at all for the wolves.

Regarding scans, I would look into scanning Darth. His play has been much tighter this game than his first two and I get the sense he might be a wolf for the first time.

Danny · 10-02-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by J23

Odd, I don't see any smileys in your post.

I see smiley's galore.

GoldenEagle · 10-02-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by J23

I haven't put in a vote simply because I don't think my vote matters currently. I think Clap is likely a wolf, but as I brought up earlier, I don't know if lynching him gives us much more information than we already had.

Anyway, I'll throw a vote on someone else even though there is no chance of them being lynched at this point. I think Jackal's reveal made sense if he is in fact the BG, and disagree with GE's arguement above. That combined with his late vote on day1 during the the save Clap campaign, leads me to

Vote GoldenEagle

Interesting theory, but it needs to be mentioned that I changed my vote right after clap revealed himself as the bodyguard. I was not down for lynching the potential body guard on day 1.

Danny · 10-02-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinD

Are we really sure that we want to make this so one-sided? A vote like this is basically of no use to anyone further down the line for analysis purposes.

If Jackal is the wolf I am sure the wolves had no problem piling onto Clap. If Clap is the wolf then after the first couple Clap votes I am sure they just went with the group as they would rather just lose a wolf they would be losing with 2 days anyway and not standout for future votes.

If it is sorcerer/BG, the wolves probably really don't care about the order and went with whoever would have them stand out the least (Clap)

10-02-2009, 01:30 AM	#354
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	If there's a Sorcerer, he only knows who the wolves are, but they don't know who he is, correct? That's way I've always thought of it. I'm just thinking that if the wolves knew somehow that one of them were the Sorcerer, they wouldn't object to the battle. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

10-02-2009, 01:32 AM	#355
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Hey MartinD - I just saw you in the thread. You have 3 posts. Do you have anything to say? I'd just like to get other views since we have had the same people posting a lot. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

10-02-2009, 01:45 AM	#358
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	I love it when there are 2 or more guests visiting the WW forum. Hmmmm....I wonder if one of them is a wolf? __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

10-02-2009, 01:10 PM	#386
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	I'm just checking in, but I'll be back long before deadline. I hope a lot of people will be around today. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

10-02-2009, 01:11 AM	#351
MartinD High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: East Lothian, Scotland	While I can't be sure that this is the right move, it's usually not a good sign when someone starts making multiple angry posts in an attempt to defend themselves... VOTE CLAPHAMSA

10-02-2009, 01:22 AM	#353
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	If I was the seer I would scan J23, not a fan of his theory to keep them both alive

10-02-2009, 09:42 AM	#362
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Just to clarity, the "We know one of them is bad" is refering to Clap or Jackal, not GE or Schidty.

10-02-2009, 10:58 AM	#365
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Never done one of these, so I hope I didn't screw it up and it pastes okay. Vote Chart, Day 1>> 18- Pass votes PB>> 21- PB votes Pass>> 22- Clap votes Jackal>> 25- Jackal votes Claph (1-1-1-1)>> 41- Martin D votes Claph (1-1-1-2)>> 70- Schmidty votes PB (2-1-1-2)>> 73- Pass unvotes PB, votes Claph (1-1-1-3)>> 74- Schmidty unvotes PB (1-1-3)>> 82- KWhit votes Jackal (1-2-3)>> 85- Abe votes Claph (1-2-4)>> 88- Abe unvotes Claph (1-2-3)>> 91- J23 votes Jackal (1-3-3)>> 92- Jackal unvotes Claph (1-3-2)>> 95- Lathum votes Pass (2-3-2)>> 101- Schmidty votes Abe (2-3-2-1)>> 102- Schmidty unvotes Abe (2-3-2)>> 105- Pass unvotes Claph, votes Jackal (2-4-1)>> 108- Jackal votes Pass (3-4-1)>> 112- J23 unvotes Jackal (3-3-1)>> 115- Pass unvotes Jackal, votes J23 (3-2-1-1)>> 116- Abe votes Claph (3-2-2-1)>> 125- Claph unvotes Jackal, votes Abe (3-1-2-1-1)>> 127- Claph unvotes Abe, votes Pass (4-1-2-1)>> 130- Danny votes Claph (4-1-3-1)>> 137- Telle votes Jackal (4-2-3-1)>> 153- J23 votes Clap (4-2-4-1)>> 154- GE votes Clap (4-2-5-1)>> 169- Clap unvotes Pass, votes Jackal (3-3-5-1)>> 172- Darth votes Pass (4-3-5-1)>> 175- Lerriuqs votes Jackal (4-4-5-1)>> 198- Schmidty votes Claph (4-4-6-1)>> 201 CLAPH REVEALS>> 204- Pass unvotes J23, votes Jackal (4-5-6)>> 208- GE unvotes Claph, votes Pass (5-5-5)>> 211- Schmidty unvotes Claph, votes Jackal (5-6-4)>> 214- KWhit unvotes Jackal, votes Pass (6-5-4)

10-02-2009, 10:58 AM	#366
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Stupid smileys, figured that would happen. Hope the rest is okay to work with.

10-02-2009, 10:59 AM	#367
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	If somebody knows a better way to do that, feel free to copy and repaste and then if Autumn is cool with it, I can delete the post with all the *&$%ing smileys.

10-02-2009, 11:05 AM	#368
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Odd, I don't see any smileys in your post.

10-02-2009, 11:11 AM	#369
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Good, maybe it's just on my screen then, which I would be fine with.

10-02-2009, 11:14 AM	#370
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I can see the smileys, probably depends on your setting or theme. It's fine to leave them though, you need a spot of brightness in your dark, dark day.

10-02-2009, 11:15 AM	#371
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	It's such a happy post, PB! You're excited about hockey!

10-02-2009, 11:19 AM	#373
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	YouTube - 2009 God Bless America Lauren Hart Kate Smith duet

10-02-2009, 11:33 AM	#375
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Vote Clap I am out until after deadline.

10-02-2009, 11:47 AM	#376
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	ok, checking back in real quick after my shower ( I am naked and dripping wet) I think it is possible both Jackal and Clap are wolves. They knew it was likely going to be between them and this would be a great way to buy Jackal a few days while possible outing the BG. Not willing to go down that path just yet, but keeping it in the back of my mind.

10-02-2009, 12:01 PM	#379
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	J - I was considering revealing earlier than that when I had at least 3 votes, but Pass and clap moved away from me and I only had two (Telle and KWhit) when I left, so I thought I'd be safe for the day.

10-02-2009, 12:08 PM	#381
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	GE - People would have voted for me because it would have told the most about the day 1 vote, since we already knew what Pass was and we'd find out what clap was very soon (if he was telling the truth, which he wasn't). I made the call on a wealth of experience in these games, and also because I didn't want to reveal too late because it would have been looked upon much more skeptically, like I was just doing it to save myself (as in my fake reveal last game). If you dislike my play from the BG standpoint, I'm sorry, but it's getting us a bad guy. And hopefully the wolves pick wrong when it comes to the NK tonight.

10-02-2009, 12:24 PM	#382
lerriuqs High School Varsity Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Saskatchewan	Vote clap Let's see where this goes...

10-02-2009, 12:31 PM	#383
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	I don't quite understand why Jackal's story is much more believable than clap's. I think they both suck. But I have too much of a headache right now to really delve deeper so I'll just go with the village on this one. vote claphamsa

10-02-2009, 01:01 PM	#385
MartinD High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: East Lothian, Scotland	Are we really sure that we want to make this so one-sided? A vote like this is basically of no use to anyone further down the line for analysis purposes.

10-02-2009, 01:12 PM	#388
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Not that vote analysis like that is decisive evidence, but it will be interesting when the numbers dwindle.

10-02-2009, 01:18 PM	#389
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	I haven't put in a vote simply because I don't think my vote matters currently. I think Clap is likely a wolf, but as I brought up earlier, I don't know if lynching him gives us much more information than we already had. Anyway, I'll throw a vote on someone else even though there is no chance of them being lynched at this point. I think Jackal's reveal made sense if he is in fact the BG, and disagree with GE's arguement above. That combined with his late vote on day1 during the the save Clap campaign, leads me to Vote GoldenEagle

10-02-2009, 01:23 PM	#391
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Votes as of post #389: 9 - claphamsa - The Jackal (275), Abe Sargent (300), Danny (321), Schmidty (334), Darth Vilus (350), MartinD (351), GoldenEagle (380), Lerriuqs (382), Telle (383) 1 - The Jackal - claphamsa (291) 1 - GoldenEagle - J23 (389) Yet to vote: Lathum, PurdueBrad

10-02-2009, 01:29 PM	#393
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Yeah, just looked (Thanks to PB's post). You were ahead in votes 4-2 over Pass at one point, though I don't know if that's anywhere close to the point you should be thinking about revealing.

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