Werewolf XXXIV: Tombstone (GAME OVER - Night 13) - Page 8

Alan T · 10-09-2006, 09:00 PM

Deadline

LoneStarGirl · 10-09-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

what makes you think that GE would vote for you?

I didn't say he would vote for me. I said i dont think he is going to get home in time from soccer to vote. As sherrif you have to start paying more attention.

Fouts · 10-09-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

saldana - so you are advocating protecting good guys by placing them in jail? thereby not allowing them (if they are good) to do their night actions that would be beneficial to us?

We;re only allowed to lynch players in jail. If you put 2 players you trust in there, then are you advocating no lynch on day 2?

Yeah, when can we elect a new sheriff?

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2006, 09:01 PM

Ok I debate whether I should wait for someone else to say it, or if I should just say it myself, and since I don't feel like taking a risk:

Putting anyone who you feel has a helpful villager role in jail neuters the role.

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2006, 09:02 PM

Damn. Wished I'd refreshed before hitting submit. Thanks Chubby for beating me to the punch!

Chubby · 10-09-2006, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Damn. Wished I'd refreshed before hitting submit. Thanks Chubby for beating me to the punch!

Well I was kinda in the same boat and just wanted to get it out there in case no one else said anything

saldana · 10-09-2006, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

saldana - so you are advocating protecting good guys by placing them in jail? thereby not allowing them (if they are good) to do their night actions that would be beneficial to us?

We;re only allowed to lynch players in jail. If you put 2 players you trust in there, then are you advocating no lynch on day 2?

not at all...i was just sayin that it might be an ok idea to protect people that i think are worth protectin tonight, then free one tomorrow after we see what goes down a bit...not sayin that is what i reckon i'm gonna do...that's why i was askin for suggesstions...if y'all want, i'll toss the 2 lowest posters of the day in the clink just for being all quiet like today.

Chubby · 10-09-2006, 09:06 PM

plus, with the ability of showdowns just because a good guy is protected in jail overnight doesn't mean he can't be gunned down at sunup either...

Chubby · 10-09-2006, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

not at all...i was just sayin that it might be an ok idea to protect people that i think are worth protectin tonight, then free one tomorrow after we see what goes down a bit...not sayin that is what i reckon i'm gonna do...that's why i was askin for suggesstions...if y'all want, i'll toss the 2 lowest posters of the day in the clink just for being all quiet like today.

If there's anyone that didn't vote in the election I reckon they'd be good top candidates...

saldana · 10-09-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Ok I debate whether I should wait for someone else to say it, or if I should just say it myself, and since I don't feel like taking a risk:

Putting anyone who you feel has a helpful villager role in jail neuters the role.

not necessarily...in the Chaos game, having the guy that worked the throne in jail every night was the best possible thing we could do, seein as how we would lose 3 days after he died no matter what.

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2006, 09:10 PM

I agree.

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2006, 09:11 PM

I agreed with chubby ftr.

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2006, 09:11 PM

I don't think, saldana, that we have anyone with that powerful of a role here.

Chubby · 10-09-2006, 09:13 PM

errr well I guess the guy would have to be released from jail to have a showdown but a good guy in jail can't do his job to help the good guys...

Alan T · 10-09-2006, 09:13 PM

The first day since Fred White's death comes and goes, and many debate during the day who should replace him. The empty jail cells loom as a reminder that the cowboys have been running unhindered thus far. After much of the day passes, a large group of people supporting Lonestargirl start backing her pretty vocally. It almost seems sure that she would become the next sheriff, until a late push from many of the townspeople point to Saldana instead.

At the end of the day, Saldana has been chosen as the new town sheriff. He walks up the stairs of the town hall, takes the gold star in hand and pins it to his shirt. He also is handed a local pistol reserved for the use of the town sheriff. It appears to have been Fred White's old gun, lets hope it serves its new owner a bit better.

Final day votes:

Sheriff election:

(9) Saldana - Anxiety (176), Hoopsguy (246), Spleen (256), Swaggs (258), Path (266), Barkeep (301), Ntndeacon (319), St.Cronin (327), Saldana (329)
(6) Lonestargirl - Bulletsponge (109), Fouts (121), Lathum (180), Glengoyne (236), Chubby (254), Lonestargirl (333)
(3) Barkeep - Chief Rum (168), Racer (175), Sndvls (253)
(1) SnDvls - Grammaticus (237)
(1) Fouts - Thomkal (242)

Lynch votes:

No valid lynch candidates.

We are now in the night period. Deadline for all night actions to be PM'd to me is 9:00am EST Tuesday morning.

saldana · 10-09-2006, 09:27 PM

well the only person not voting was Golden Eagle...he also has the lowest post count along with Swaggs, and then Glengoyne.

does anyone have a serious suggestion or is that the plan y'all'd like for me to go with (GE and then swaggs)....i will say that my personal preference would be to put GE and Glen in, as swaggs has proven to be a pretty good pardner in the past when given the chance.

saldana · 10-09-2006, 09:31 PM

dola, i also have a bad feeling in my gut about Lathum...he likes to do the whole "NO POST ALL DAY" routine when he is a bad guy, and he cant say he was at work or nothin like that

Chubby · 10-09-2006, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

well the only person not voting was Golden Eagle...he also has the lowest post count along with Swaggs, and then Glengoyne.

does anyone have a serious suggestion or is that the plan y'all'd like for me to go with (GE and then swaggs)....i will say that my personal preference would be to put GE and Glen in, as swaggs has proven to be a pretty good pardner in the past when given the chance.

I def think GE should be put in there since he didn't vote.

Post counts from the beginning of day 1 for the others?

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2006, 09:33 PM

Why can't he?

Chubby · 10-09-2006, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Why can't he?

Holiday but I don't know what his job is.

Those of us in retail only get xmas as true holidays

saldana · 10-09-2006, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Why can't he?

cuz he dont have a job, IRL

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

cuz he dont have a job, IRL

Well then! The unemployed or underemployed should spend a good deal of time in this thread. Only seems right. I guess my hackles have been raised about Lathum as well.

bulletsponge · 10-09-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

well the only person not voting was Golden Eagle...he also has the lowest post count along with Swaggs, and then Glengoyne.

does anyone have a serious suggestion or is that the plan y'all'd like for me to go with (GE and then swaggs)....i will say that my personal preference would be to put GE and Glen in, as swaggs has proven to be a pretty good pardner in the past when given the chance.

put Barkeep in jail overnight, only for his own protection. he might be a top canidate for a hit tonight.

Lathum · 10-09-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

cuz he dont have a job, IRL

WTF does that mean? I left at 8:30 this morning for the casino and was home at 7:00, me and K had dinner, watched deal or no deal and here I am. Just because I don't "work" doesn't mean I don't leave the house!

saldana · 10-09-2006, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

WTF does that mean? I left at 8:30 this morning for the casino and was home at 7:00, me and K had dinner, watched deal or no deal and here I am. Just because I don't "work" doesn't mean I don't leave the house!

it means that i just find it bizarre that you didnt post all day long on the first day of a werewolf game...its not like you didnt know the game was starting today...you posted last night...you knew the roles were out, but you opted to ignore the first day of the game....i just think thats abnormal for you.

Lathum · 10-09-2006, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

it means that i just find it bizarre that you didnt post all day long on the first day of a werewolf game...its not like you didnt know the game was starting today...you posted last night...you knew the roles were out, but you opted to ignore the first day of the game....i just think thats abnormal for you.

thats right, I posted last night when I was home. I was out for 11 hours today. You of all people should understand how I can lose track of time when I am playing cards.

saldana · 10-09-2006, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

thats right, I posted last night when I was home. I was out for 11 hours today. You of all people should understand how I can lose track of time when I am playing cards.

i of all people also know you dont get out of bed before 10 am unless it's on fire.

Glengoyne · 10-09-2006, 09:54 PM

I turn on CNN to see the early precinct results, and it turns out people want to toss me in the pokey where my neck will be on the line.

Lathum · 10-09-2006, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

i of all people also know you dont get out of bed before 10 am unless it's on fire.

actually I get up at 8:00 these days. I am in bed by 12:00. I hve no need to stay up late or sleep late anymore, I keep a much more normal schedule,

Glengoyne · 10-09-2006, 09:57 PM

No reason to toss me in, all I did was vote for LSG, 'cause I got her killed in our first WW game. I certainly didn't have any trouble with Saldana. I hope Sal turns out to be a trustworthy officer of the law.

Glengoyne · 10-09-2006, 09:59 PM

Oh and I think we may have mis-read or over stated Barkeep's role a bit. I don't think he has genuine seer type capabilities, so I don't think we are required to keep him in jail to protect him. I guess time will tell.

saldana · 10-09-2006, 10:08 PM

hoops and anxiety....who do you reckon i should slap the irons on tonight?

hoopsguy · 10-09-2006, 10:09 PM

Saldana, congrats on your new office. No major advice for Night 1, although I would try to avoid jailing the people you suspect have villager roles to let them either demonstrate them ... or not demonstrate them and make decisions on them a little later in the game.

Barkeep49 · 10-09-2006, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Glengoyne

Oh and I think we may have mis-read or over stated Barkeep's role a bit. I don't think he has genuine seer type capabilities, so I don't think we are required to keep him in jail to protect him. I guess time will tell.

I believe I've said as much

hoopsguy · 10-09-2006, 10:13 PM

Dola - didn't see your request before posting. If you want me to list names here I will. But I'm also looking to see what your thought process is and evaluating just how much I will trust you going forward ...

Abe Sargent · 10-09-2006, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

hoops and anxiety....who do you reckon i should slap the irons on tonight?

Probably a crap shot at this point, but I'd look at quiet people who are not newbies or relatively new.

-Anxiety

SnDvls · 10-09-2006, 10:19 PM

we have to also understand that by putting 2 people in jail those two become our lynch people for tomorrow, unless we see fit to hold off on the lynch until day 3 (I don't recommend this). I don't see anyone reasonably wanting to go to the jail on their own accord on this first night as that puts them in a safe spot at night, but one step closer to being lynched tomorrow.
It might change as roles become more know, but it also hinders them from doing their role.

we will see who has a "role" of some sort tomorrow though as they will show tired...that is if I read the rules correctly.

SnDvls · 10-09-2006, 10:21 PM

I guess what I'm asking is, is there any thought to seeing who is tired tomorrow to help eliminate some of the guess work.

Swaggs · 10-09-2006, 10:24 PM

I don't see any reason why you should not put three people in the jail.

And if my low post count makes me a good candidate, I am fine with that.

hoopsguy · 10-09-2006, 10:28 PM

Swaggs, he can only put two in jail each night. Jail only holds three, but will take at least two nights to reach capacity.

SnDvls - people won't be tired until Day 3. It is back-to-back actions to be fatigued.

SnDvls · 10-09-2006, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

SnDvls - people won't be tired until Day 3. It is back-to-back actions to be fatigued.

damn, there goes that line of thinking...see I knew the rules would stump me, I really need to reread them again.

Abe Sargent · 10-09-2006, 10:43 PM

saldana, here are some poeple I'd look more closely at -

Thomkal
SnDvls
Glengoyne

Have they posted much during the day? My impression was that they didn't, but I don't know, so I'd go back and investigate if I were the sheriff.

Abe Sargent · 10-09-2006, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

put Barkeep in jail overnight, only for his own protection. he might be a top canidate for a hit tonight.

I personally think this is a bad play. What if the bad guys have a duke role and duke BK? Why limit our options by only tossing in one suspect? Why remove BK's ability to use his role? Why deny a bodyguard the opporuntity to kill a abd guy by protecting an obvious target?

saldana · 10-09-2006, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

saldana, here are some poeple I'd look more closely at -

Thomkal
SnDvls
Glengoyne

Have they posted much during the day? My impression was that they didn't, but I don't know, so I'd go back and investigate if I were the sheriff.

i already looked into this, and none of them have a double digit post number at the end of the day. unfortunately, there were more people in that category than i have the ability to lock up over night.

Glengoyne · 10-09-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

saldana, here are some poeple I'd look more closely at -

Thomkal
SnDvls
Glengoyne

Have they posted much during the day? My impression was that they didn't, but I don't know, so I'd go back and investigate if I were the sheriff.

There I am being mentioned as a candidate for jail bird again. I said last night I wouldn't be able to post again until noon pst. I checked in, at that time the Saldana bandwagon really hadn't gone too far down the line, so I left my innocuous LSG vote for sheriff on the table, and took my family to the County fair.

Based on my post count? Because when I was online and posting late last night, none of you were participating in the thread? It is downright boring to talk to yourself. Well at least myself.

GoldenEagle · 10-09-2006, 10:52 PM

I think it is pretty silly to toss someone in the jail since they missed a vote that is not mandatory. But if you want to throw me in the jail for that reason, then well whatever, do it. I could careless.

SnDvls · 10-09-2006, 10:53 PM

I had 17 posts at the deadline

Anxiety had 8

take it for what it's worth

saldana · 10-09-2006, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

I personally think this is a bad play. What if the bad guys have a duke role and duke BK? Why limit our options by only tossing in one suspect? Why remove BK's ability to use his role? Why deny a bodyguard the opporuntity to kill a abd guy by protecting an obvious target?

i agree that this is not a good plan...my original thought was to use the jail tonight as a means to protect two people i thought were good guys....it was then pointed out to me/i realized that the jail in this game is not the same as it has been in every other incarnation it has had in WW...since we have to lynch one of the people in the jail, it takes the ability to use it as a bodyguard away.

Glengoyne · 10-09-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

I had 17 posts at the deadline

Anxiety had 8

take it for what it's worth

That's pretty funny.

saldana · 10-09-2006, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

I had 17 posts at the deadline

Anxiety had 8

take it for what it's worth

sorry sndvls...i confused you and swaggs. you actually had more posts than i did during the day today. (but you still have less than 1000 and dont really count

)

10-09-2006, 10:24 PM	#389
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I don't see any reason why you should not put three people in the jail. And if my low post count makes me a good candidate, I am fine with that. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-09-2006, 10:43 PM	#392
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	saldana, here are some poeple I'd look more closely at - Thomkal SnDvls Glengoyne Have they posted much during the day? My impression was that they didn't, but I don't know, so I'd go back and investigate if I were the sheriff. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

10-09-2006, 10:52 PM	#396
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I think it is pretty silly to toss someone in the jail since they missed a vote that is not mandatory. But if you want to throw me in the jail for that reason, then well whatever, do it. I could careless. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

10-09-2006, 09:00 PM	#351
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Deadline

10-09-2006, 09:01 PM	#354
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Ok I debate whether I should wait for someone else to say it, or if I should just say it myself, and since I don't feel like taking a risk: Putting anyone who you feel has a helpful villager role in jail neuters the role.

10-09-2006, 09:02 PM	#355
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Damn. Wished I'd refreshed before hitting submit. Thanks Chubby for beating me to the punch!

10-09-2006, 09:06 PM	#358
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	plus, with the ability of showdowns just because a good guy is protected in jail overnight doesn't mean he can't be gunned down at sunup either...

10-09-2006, 09:10 PM	#361
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I agree.

10-09-2006, 09:11 PM	#362
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I agreed with chubby ftr.

10-09-2006, 09:11 PM	#363
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I don't think, saldana, that we have anyone with that powerful of a role here.

10-09-2006, 09:13 PM	#364
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	errr well I guess the guy would have to be released from jail to have a showdown but a good guy in jail can't do his job to help the good guys...

10-09-2006, 09:13 PM	#365
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	The first day since Fred White's death comes and goes, and many debate during the day who should replace him. The empty jail cells loom as a reminder that the cowboys have been running unhindered thus far. After much of the day passes, a large group of people supporting Lonestargirl start backing her pretty vocally. It almost seems sure that she would become the next sheriff, until a late push from many of the townspeople point to Saldana instead. At the end of the day, Saldana has been chosen as the new town sheriff. He walks up the stairs of the town hall, takes the gold star in hand and pins it to his shirt. He also is handed a local pistol reserved for the use of the town sheriff. It appears to have been Fred White's old gun, lets hope it serves its new owner a bit better. Final day votes: Sheriff election: (9) Saldana - Anxiety (176), Hoopsguy (246), Spleen (256), Swaggs (258), Path (266), Barkeep (301), Ntndeacon (319), St.Cronin (327), Saldana (329) (6) Lonestargirl - Bulletsponge (109), Fouts (121), Lathum (180), Glengoyne (236), Chubby (254), Lonestargirl (333) (3) Barkeep - Chief Rum (168), Racer (175), Sndvls (253) (1) SnDvls - Grammaticus (237) (1) Fouts - Thomkal (242) Lynch votes: No valid lynch candidates. We are now in the night period. Deadline for all night actions to be PM'd to me is 9:00am EST Tuesday morning.

10-09-2006, 09:27 PM	#366
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	well the only person not voting was Golden Eagle...he also has the lowest post count along with Swaggs, and then Glengoyne. does anyone have a serious suggestion or is that the plan y'all'd like for me to go with (GE and then swaggs)....i will say that my personal preference would be to put GE and Glen in, as swaggs has proven to be a pretty good pardner in the past when given the chance.

10-09-2006, 09:31 PM	#367
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	dola, i also have a bad feeling in my gut about Lathum...he likes to do the whole "NO POST ALL DAY" routine when he is a bad guy, and he cant say he was at work or nothin like that

10-09-2006, 09:33 PM	#369
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Why can't he?

10-09-2006, 09:54 PM	#378
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	I turn on CNN to see the early precinct results, and it turns out people want to toss me in the pokey where my neck will be on the line.

10-09-2006, 09:57 PM	#380
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	No reason to toss me in, all I did was vote for LSG, 'cause I got her killed in our first WW game. I certainly didn't have any trouble with Saldana. I hope Sal turns out to be a trustworthy officer of the law.

10-09-2006, 09:59 PM	#381
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	Oh and I think we may have mis-read or over stated Barkeep's role a bit. I don't think he has genuine seer type capabilities, so I don't think we are required to keep him in jail to protect him. I guess time will tell.

10-09-2006, 10:08 PM	#382
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	hoops and anxiety....who do you reckon i should slap the irons on tonight?

10-09-2006, 10:09 PM	#383
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Saldana, congrats on your new office. No major advice for Night 1, although I would try to avoid jailing the people you suspect have villager roles to let them either demonstrate them ... or not demonstrate them and make decisions on them a little later in the game.

10-09-2006, 10:13 PM	#385
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Dola - didn't see your request before posting. If you want me to list names here I will. But I'm also looking to see what your thought process is and evaluating just how much I will trust you going forward ...

10-09-2006, 10:19 PM	#387
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	we have to also understand that by putting 2 people in jail those two become our lynch people for tomorrow, unless we see fit to hold off on the lynch until day 3 (I don't recommend this). I don't see anyone reasonably wanting to go to the jail on their own accord on this first night as that puts them in a safe spot at night, but one step closer to being lynched tomorrow. It might change as roles become more know, but it also hinders them from doing their role. we will see who has a "role" of some sort tomorrow though as they will show tired...that is if I read the rules correctly.

10-09-2006, 10:21 PM	#388
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I guess what I'm asking is, is there any thought to seeing who is tired tomorrow to help eliminate some of the guess work.

10-09-2006, 10:28 PM	#390
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Swaggs, he can only put two in jail each night. Jail only holds three, but will take at least two nights to reach capacity. SnDvls - people won't be tired until Day 3. It is back-to-back actions to be fatigued.

10-09-2006, 10:53 PM	#397
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I had 17 posts at the deadline Anxiety had 8 take it for what it's worth

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