The 2013-2014 NCAA Coaching Carousel

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by HomerSimpson98

Interesting post, CU. Not sure why they are willing to spend $10M on a coach just to say that they can? I'd be interested to know who that potential candidate is, but I dont want to put you on the spot. I assume it rhymes with Rabo Thinney.

It was not Dabo.
But the coach in question does share the same representation.

[tarcone]

18 Million dollars on staff? Thats insane. The next HC can cherry pick almost any assistant he wants.

Im shocked that Brown wouldnt recruit more then one QB in a state that is loaded with QBs. That seems very short sighted. Heck, even Iowa has a couple good D1 QBs on their roster.

And Greg Davis could be had. He has Texas ties. He was OC on their last NC.

[GrantDawg]

Ummmmmm....what? Lane Kiffin Is Reportedly a Guest of Nick Saban, Evaluating Alabama's Offense | Bleacher Report

[Matthean]

It's not like they are making him the HC. I think 'Bama's D could be better looked at as well, but I'm sure Saban is all over that.

[Chief Rum]

I heard it suggested on radio yesterday that this might be a solid from Saban to his agent. Apparently Saban and Kiffin have the same agent, so this might be an effort to attempt to make Kiffin a more appealing hire.

Of course, you can put a dress on a pig, and other similar cliches...

[dawgfan]

I know it's easy to pile on Kiffin (and I've done it myself), but by all accounts he's got a brilliant football mind. He may not be very good at running a program, but I'm certain there are good insights he can provide Saban - at the very least he can provide another point of view.

[RomaGoth]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

I know it's easy to pile on Kiffin (and I've done it myself), but by all accounts he's got a brilliant football mind. He may not be very good at running a program, but I'm certain there are good insights he can provide Saban - at the very least he can provide another point of view.

Kiffin could help Saban make media sessions more entertaining!

[cartman]

The online betting site Bovada is taking action on who will be the next coach at Texas. Here are the names on the board:

Charlie Strong
2/1
James Franklin
4/1
Art Briles
5/1
Mike Gundy
6/1
Jimbo Fisher
9/1
Jim Harbaugh
10/1
Jim Mora
10/1
Bill O'Brien
12/1
David Shaw
12/1
Chip Kelly
16/1
Mike Tomlin
33/1

[General Mike]

A visual representation of Rutgers athletic department.

[BishopMVP]

Am I the only one really not on board the David Shaw train? I mean, he might very well be an elite coach, but I think it's more likely that he just rode out Harbaugh's success, especially considering how many seniors were on that 2-deep this year.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Am I the only one really not on board the David Shaw train? I mean, he might very well be an elite coach, but I think it's more likely that he just rode out Harbaugh's success, especially considering how many seniors were on that 2-deep this year.

I haven't done a count to be sure, but so you know, most Stanford depth charts are misleading where they list class designations. Apparently Stanford shows athletes by their academic standing, rather than athletic standing. So an academic senior (shown as a Sr on depth charts by the school) is actually a junior if he was redshirted (and as most are). Or at least that is how it has been explained to me. Apparently, Stanford only has something like four senior starters on each side of the ball who have exhausted their eligibility.

All that said and despite his success, I, too, am not 100% sure Shaw is as great a coach as he has been made out to be. But I can't put it all at Harbaugh's feet either. It has been three seasons now since Harbaugh coached a game for the Cardinal.

[MrBug708]

So Tosh Lupoi is being investigated for recruiting violations...no surprise...haha.

UW might let him walk just to be rid of him.

[dawgfan]

Yeah, I really doubt Petersen will attempt to retain him at this point.

The plus side is the allegations - paying $4500 to an intermediary to get the kid academic tutoring - are not particularly salacious. Rules violations for sure, but given that it was done after the kid had signed his LOI, kind of hard to say it was a recruiting advantage, and it was in the service of trying to get him eligible to attend college, so it's the kind of thing that's going to come across as sympathetic to the average Joe.

The risk is if the allegations are true, are there more waiting to be found out? Sark & Tosh recruited a lot of grade risks...

[MrBug708]

Funny thing is that Haden probably can't risk hiring him.

[dawgfan]

Yeah, I'd say there's no chance of that. Plus, Tosh might get a show-cause out of all of this. If he doesn't, I would suspect he'll be more likely to find receptive employers in the SEC or Big-12.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Funny thing is that Haden probably can't risk hiring him.

Yep, USC was already scrutinizing him closely. Now there is zero chance he ends up at USC.

[miked]

I just don't understand how anyone thinks this isn't a desirable job? That anyone would think UT is the 3rd best program in Texas is quite silly, and thinking it's not a prestigious job is even sillier. They were just named by Forbes as the most valuable college program, they have (some) history of success, it is the hotbed of college recruiting, and they are willing to outspend everyone else combined on staff.

Now whether or not there are expectations that are too high maybe something else, but I think that's true for everyone in the program. Nobody at tOSU or places like that expects to hire a coach that says he will try and win 8-9 games each season. Even if you go to mid-level teams, lots of their fans and supporters expect conference titles, just the way it goes.

So anyway, I know George O'Leary has some issues, but is there anyone talking about giving him a bigger program? He has led UCF from relative nothingness to a BCS bowl in a short time.

[HomerSimpson98]

David Shaw is the freaking man. I absolutely love the way his teams play ball. I do NOT want him in Austin.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Yep, USC was already scrutinizing him closely. Now there is zero chance he ends up at USC.

Based off your track record with predicting USC coaching moves he will likely be hired tomorrow

[Young Drachma]

Bowling Green hires Dino Babers as next head coach

BGSU picks Eastern Illinois Head Coach as their new head guy. So that means the #1 and #2 finalists (the winner and runner up) for the FCS coach of the year award both move to FBS with NDSU's coach heading to Wyoming.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by miked

I just don't understand how anyone thinks this isn't a desirable job? That anyone would think UT is the 3rd best program in Texas is quite silly, and thinking it's not a prestigious job is even sillier. They were just named by Forbes as the most valuable college program, they have (some) history of success, it is the hotbed of college recruiting, and they are willing to outspend everyone else combined on staff.

Now whether or not there are expectations that are too high maybe something else, but I think that's true for everyone in the program. Nobody at tOSU or places like that expects to hire a coach that says he will try and win 8-9 games each season. Even if you go to mid-level teams, lots of their fans and supporters expect conference titles, just the way it goes.

So anyway, I know George O'Leary has some issues, but is there anyone talking about giving him a bigger program? He has led UCF from relative nothingness to a BCS bowl in a short time.

O'Leary is old. Also his past foible will keep him from a major job. Plus, he's old. That's more of an issue than anything. No one is bringing in a 67 year old head coach to run a major program.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Young Drachma

Bowling Green hires Dino Babers as next head coach

BGSU picks Eastern Illinois Head Coach as their new head guy. So that means the #1 and #2 finalists (the winner and runner up) for the FCS coach of the year award both move to FBS with NDSU's coach heading to Wyoming.

Ah Dino Babers...He once offered the wrong kid while a coach at ucla. Goes right along with current sjsu hc Ron Carruthers who once forgot to pick up a recruit from the airport. Fun times at ucla

[MacroGuru]

Might as well bring it up in this thread.

BYU coach Bronco Mendenhall spoke out about Boosters and Coaches salaries this past week and is getting roasted for it in some places and applauded for it in others...

What lead to it was the in essence, forced resignation of Texas' Mack Brown. The articles are out there slanted in a variety of ways in regards to what he said.

[BishopMVP]

UMass fires its head coach. I mean, the guy sucked, but not sure sure any coach could've won more games in his first 2 years with the talent inherited, and the timing just makes me want to fire our AD even more. Rumors of Don Brown and Mark Whipple coming back, but Rob Ambrose (Towson HC, ex-UConn OC) is the guy I hope they target.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

UMass fires its head coach. I mean, the guy sucked, but not sure sure any coach could've won more games in his first 2 years with the talent inherited, and the timing just makes me want to fire our AD even more. Rumors of Don Brown and Mark Whipple coming back, but Rob Ambrose (Towson HC, ex-UConn OC) is the guy I hope they target.

Is UMass FBS now? Sorry that I don't know.

I would presume they must be if you believe going after Towson's HC is realistic, since Towson is one of FCS's top teams this year, right?

It's always tough on programs making the transition from FCS to FBS.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Is UMass FBS now? Sorry that I don't know.

I would presume they must be if you believe going after Towson's HC is realistic, since Towson is one of FCS's top teams this year, right?

It's always tough on programs making the transition from FCS to FBS.

2 years in the MAC, with 1 win each year. No doubt the transition is tough for all, but the general feeling is that multiple UMass teams from around a decade ago (the 1998-2007 versions) and good current CAA teams like UNH, Towson, or even Maine (who actually did beat us 24-14) could have beaten our FBS teams this year and last, even with our improved recruiting and talent level. Unfortunately, there was the most incompetent head coach of all time hired in 2008 and he cratered the program even at the FCS level right before we finally decided to make the jump.

[Logan]

Ambrose was mentioned as a dark horse candidate for the UConn job and some others this offseason, so I could see him waiting for a better opportunity to make the jump up than a really difficult situation with UMass, sorry to say.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Logan

Ambrose was mentioned as a dark horse candidate for the UConn job and some others this offseason, so I could see him waiting for a better opportunity to make the jump up than a really difficult situation with UMass, sorry to say.

Ehh... I'd have to think if he was offered the UConn job he would have taken it, so I think he's at least worth contacting and interviewing. Now, our fans who want Pat Narduzzi...

The other FCS coach who should get a look is Sean McDonnell from UNH. The OC at Kentucky, Neal Brown, is also an ex-UMass QB, but he might be making more as an SEC assistant than he would at UMass.

[dawgfan]

Some interesting assistant news - Nick Aliotti is stepping down as DC for Oregon after their bowl game. He's been there on and off for just about forever, and his defenses in recent years have been outstanding.

Which makes it all the more interesting that the word is out that Justin Wilcox will be re-joining Sarkisian at USC to be their DC. Wilcox is a former Duck player, and there was some buzz that he would be replacing a retiring Aliotti (this was before that news become official). Sounds like Wilcox preferred to reunite with his assistants Peter Sirmon (also his best friend) and Keith Heyward who left right away for USC.

No word yet on whether USC and Washington have negotiated a settlement on Wilcox's buyout, or if Chris Petersen is simply letting him walk away without offering him to stick around.

I wonder if Oregon will make a play for Clancy Pendergast...

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

No word yet on whether USC and Washington have negotiated a settlement on Wilcox's buyout, or if Chris Petersen is simply letting him walk away without offering him to stick around.

from the Seattle paper was this blurb

Petersen is expected to bring at least seven Boise State assistant coaches to Seattle: defensive coordinator Pete Kwiatkowski ....

If that's accurate it sounds as though there might not have been much of an opportunity to remain for the highest paid ass't in the conference. Surely they wouldn't have paid him DC money to remain as a position coach, right? (even more surely he wouldn't have allowed himself to have a contract that let him be demoted with a pay cut, right?)

[Chief Rum]

I think the fact that Wilcox's situation remains unsettled is a sign that Petersen/UW has been screwing around with USC's plans to hire Wilcox, and that doesn't figure to change now that a key position has opened up at a key rival's staff. And I fully support said "screwing around".

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

If that's accurate it sounds as though there might not have been much of an opportunity to remain for the highest paid ass't in the conference. Surely they wouldn't have paid him DC money to remain as a position coach, right? (even more surely he wouldn't have allowed himself to have a contract that let him be demoted with a pay cut, right?)

If Wilcox has stayed Kwiatkowski would have been the DL coach under Wilcox as he was on the Boise staff before Wilcox left for Tennessee.

Personally I wish Wilcox would have stayed, but I can see the appeal for him in moving on to USC where he'll get to coach elite talent and continue working with Sirmon & Heyward. Those guys are both studs and will kill it at USC, especially with Wilcox joining them. And Wilcox probably won't be there long - he'll get a head coaching offer sooner rather than later.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

If Wilcox has stayed Kwiatkowski would have been the DL coach under Wilcox as he was on the Boise staff before Wilcox left for Tennessee.

Personally I wish Wilcox would have stayed, but I can see the appeal for him in moving on to USC where he'll get to coach elite talent and continue working with Sirmon & Heyward. Those guys are both studs and will kill it at USC, especially with Wilcox joining them. And Wilcox probably won't be there long - he'll get a head coaching offer sooner rather than later.

I haven't yet actually heard that Wilcox has left. Has he?

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I haven't yet actually heard that Wilcox has left. Has he?

It's still unofficial at this point, but it's expected and long-rumored.

[CraigSca]

O'Brien to the Texans? Who goes to Penn State - Franklin?

[digamma]

If there is one school that can't afford to take a risk on Franklin because of the rape stuff, isn't it Penn State?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Brian VanGorder hired by Notre Dame Fighting Irish from New York Jets as defensive coordinator - ESPN

This would be his 12th different job location in 23 seasons, his 6th flip between the NFL & college since 2004.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by CraigSca

O'Brien to the Texans? Who goes to Penn State - Franklin?

They'll likely want somebody who can continue to develop their QB.

[Comey]

Originally Posted by CraigSca

O'Brien to the Texans? Who goes to Penn State - Franklin?

Talk of Mike Munchak and Greg Schiano as the lead candidates. Sources have said both reached out to PSU for the job, and that Munchak is the favorite.

There is also a report that a recruit talked to O'Brien last night, and he said he isn't going. So....who knows, at this point. I hope he doesn't, but I really couldn't begrudge him if he did.

[Young Drachma]

Schiano seems like the logical fit for PSU, as a former assistant and clearly the NFL isn't going to last.

[Comey]

I *really* hope Schiano isn't the guy.

Really, really hope.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by Young Drachma

Schiano seems like the logical fit for PSU, as a former assistant and clearly the NFL isn't going to last.

I don't know much of Schiano's career before Rutgers. But if he was an assistant at the same time that the Sandusky stuff was going on, Penn State may steer clear of him.

[Comey]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

I don't know much of Schiano's career before Rutgers. But if he was an assistant at the same time that the Sandusky stuff was going on, Penn State may steer clear of him.

Not likely.

Penn State reportedly to ‘make a strong push’ for Buccaneers’ Greg*Schiano | Audibles - SI.com

That's just one of many sources floating around now. Sigh.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

I don't know much of Schiano's career before Rutgers. But if he was an assistant at the same time that the Sandusky stuff was going on, Penn State may steer clear of him.

I think they want to stay with someone with close ties to the program, for better or worse. Were I in a position to hire a head football coach, Schiano would be near last on my list.

I believe fully he leaked confidential information about Freeman this year. I also think he's beyond classless with his diving at the QB's legs on kneel down plays. I'd simply look someplace else. My gut tells me Penn State won't.

[BillJasper]

I just don't understand why Penn State would want to take a chance on reopening old wounds for a guy who has had one really good year as a head coach at either the college or pro level?

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by TroyF

I think they want to stay with someone with close ties to the program, for better or worse. Were I in a position to hire a head football coach, Schiano would be near last on my list.

I believe fully he leaked confidential information about Freeman this year. I also think he's beyond classless with his diving at the QB's legs on kneel down plays. I'd simply look someplace else. My gut tells me Penn State won't.

One of the Rutgers insiders can speak to this better than me, but back when Schiano was rebuilding Rutgers from horrendously irrelevant to a team whose fans get annoyed with bowl appearances, the fear was always that pre-scandal that the only college job he'd ever leaving RU for was Penn State because of having worked there previously and his respect for JoePa.

That Penn State job isn't what it was and at least O'Brien isn't leaving them for another college gig.

If he does take it, expect him to say that it was "his dream job" and that "he couldn't pass it up" and so forth. He might be a lot of things, but when you consider he took Rutgers from basically where UMass is right now (save for playing in the MAC) to respectability (yes, I know some of you will howl about that. But it's true) it's not like the guy is a bad coach and his approach CERTAINLY works better in college where you can pull scholarships, etc., over the Pros where no one wants that kind of drill sergeant coach.

So anyway..this is probably what would've happened a long time ago had the scandal not happened and maybe if JoePa retires sooner.

Alas, it might seem out of left field but it was sort of always the way it appeared it was going to go back in the day. The irony of it, is that he'll be coaching in the B1G against his former team at some point.

Maybe that'll finally be the catalyst to get Flood fired next year at Rutgers.

Here's an article from 2011 about this.

Start with the second point. No one is downplaying this: Schiano loves Penn State. He got emotional talking about Paterno today. The 84-year-old coach is one of his mentors, and no one — least of all Schiano — expected a downfall like this near the end of his career.

“He gave me a chance,” Schiano said. “I was a 25-year-old kid and he gave me a chance, hired me as a full-time coach at one of the top programs in the country. He certainly gave my career a jump-start to say the least and I learned a ton working under him for six years.”

And the Star Ledger is talking about it as Rutgers' worst nightmare.

[General Mike]

I hope Penn State does hire Schiano because its one more horrible game day coach in the division. I'd be much more scared of them bringing in James Franklin

[Crapshoot]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Am I the only one really not on board the David Shaw train? I mean, he might very well be an elite coach, but I think it's more likely that he just rode out Harbaugh's success, especially considering how many seniors were on that 2-deep this year.

agree. He's good, but not Harbaugh, and he repeatedly gets outsmarted / is overly conservative to the point of ridiculousness. It may just be raised expectations, but he drives some people around here nuts.

[tarcone]

Throwing in my 2 cents on the Texas search. Listening to the radio yesterday, they were saying that Strong will be Floridas guy when they fire Mueschamp.
When Strong was a an assistant at Florida, he was known as the Mayor of Gainesville. He is a Florida recruiting genius.
I dont see him going to Texas.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by tarcone

Throwing in my 2 cents on the Texas search. Listening to the radio yesterday, they were saying that Strong will be Floridas guy when they fire Mueschamp.
When Strong was a an assistant at Florida, he was known as the Mayor of Gainesville. He is a Florida recruiting genius.
I dont see him going to Texas.

Then Florida needs to fire Muschamp now. Because I can't believe Strong turns down Texas if they come calling.