Youth Sports Parents are Awful People #10,783

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Lathum

So my daughters team is firing on all cylinders. She is catching and hitting 5th. They have won their pool games by a combined 51-12. If we win tonight we move on to the district title game.

Our last pool game we put up 19 runs in the second inning. There is a mercy rule that if one team is up 15 runs after 3 innings its called. They were the home team so we had to play all 3 innings. In this league the tie breaker is run differential so we had to keep pouring it on. I felt bad for the other team but their coach started getting really pissed and chirping at ours. When we went up 21-2 they actually turned to scoreboard off, which was so childish.

This is why runs allowed have become a more standard tie breaker for baseball tourney play. It doesn't feel good to be on either side of those games.

[Lathum]

I just checked and it’s actually runs allowed but I guess since they are in our side of the bracket we needed to put runs on them?

The funny thing is that team actually still advanced to bracket play and if they win tonight we would play them tomorrow for the title assuming we win tonight.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Lathum

So my daughters team is firing on all cylinders. She is catching and hitting 5th. They have won their pool games by a combined 51-12. If we win tonight we move on to the district title game.

Our last pool game we put up 19 runs in the second inning. There is a mercy rule that if one team is up 15 runs after 3 innings its called. They were the home team so we had to play all 3 innings. In this league the tie breaker is run differential so we had to keep pouring it on. I felt bad for the other team but their coach started getting really pissed and chirping at ours. When we went up 21-2 they actually turned to scoreboard off, which was so childish.

In the old NES game Baseball Stars, I would always play as the road team so I could rack up a few more runs before the 10 run mercy rule kicked in at the end of the inning.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

In the old NES game Baseball Stars, I would always play as the road team so I could rack up a few more runs before the 10 run mercy rule kicked in at the end of the inning.

My all time favorite game. It’s the first game I remember that you could customize. I

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I just checked and it’s actually runs allowed but I guess since they are in our side of the bracket we needed to put runs on them?

The funny thing is that team actually still advanced to bracket play and if they win tonight we would play them tomorrow for the title assuming we win tonight.

Very likely why. I've also seen caps put on run diff. 8 or 10 seems to be the standard. Tournaments are finding it's hard to fill spots when boat races at younger ages is encouraged.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Very likely why. I've also seen caps put on run diff. 8 or 10 seems to be the standard.

Yeah, capping the benefit is how (for example) a lot of our HS football regions deal with point-based tiebreakers. I kinda figured that would be common elsewhere in competitions of this sort, although I guess with fewer games involved to differentiate I suppose tied teams remaining tied when both maxxed out the benefit could be an issue.

[Lathum]

Sorry I have turned this into a bit of a dynasty.

We won last night 18-2 so we have now outscored the competition 69-14. My daughter got her first home run last night. It was awesome to see her and her teammates so excited.

We play for the divisional title tonight against the team we just beat 29-8, so unless they have some lights out pitcher who missed Saturdays game I am feeling pretty good.

[Lathum]

Boom. District Champs

[miami_fan]

After another 16U/18U travel baseball summer, all I can say is.....YES!

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[Atocep]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

After another 16U/18U travel baseball summer, all I can say is.....YES!

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Very accurate

High school aged kids wear far more equipment than college players. My sons college summer league recently wrapped up and I didn't see a single oven mitt and only a handful of elbow and shin guards.

The celebrations are pretty rare too. You see the occasional guy that over celebrates everything but most coaches don't want to see that shit.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

After another 16U/18U travel baseball summer, all I can say is.....YES!

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That is awesome LOL

[flere-imsaho]

The soccer referee shortage continues to gain steam, at least in my corner of the midwest. I'm now getting emails from assignors in Iowa, Michigan, and Wisconsin (I assume they've contacted the local assignors and asked to use their email distribution lists) begging for refs for tournaments, offering mileage and hotel bookings, etc....

[flere-imsaho]

Got this from one of the local assignors this week:

We need a strong center for a rematch between teams whose parents are maturity challenged.

...game details...

IF the parents do not behave, the ref must card the coach(es). That is all that is needed outside of reffing a 10u soccer game.

Reading between the lines, I'm guessing this particular league wants a ref who's happy to toss both coaches so as to give the two clubs in question some impetus to discipline their parents.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Got this from one of the local assignors this week:



Reading between the lines, I'm guessing this particular league wants a ref who's happy to toss both coaches so as to give the two clubs in question some impetus to discipline their parents.

When I was assisting in running our local baseball league we had to request specific umps for a couple of the teams when they played. It's sad but we couldn't risk letting one of the younger umps out there with those parents.

[miami_fan]

Over the last six months or so, my son and I have been around more testosterone fueled confrontations involving men over forty years old than I can remember. Most have been at the travel baseball fields but there have also been a few at stores and gas stations before and after the most recent hurricanes and one in a barber shop. Fortunately most of them have been mostly verbal but a couple have seen punches thrown. My son was surprised by the latter because it became very clear almost immediately that only one of the tough guys barking back and forth was prepared to or capable of engaging in any fistfight while the other was hoping for someone to break things up and no one stepped in to stop things.

That backstory leads me to a fall ball high school game between my son's public high school and a local private Catholic high school. I described the schools only because a) my son learned that just because someone goes to a religious school does not mean they will always speak and act in accordance with said religious doctrine and b) those distinctions played its part in the banter/trash talk/insults that were going back and forth among certain parents.

Anyway, our team is in the field. One of the fathers on our side who has been know to engage in his own happy hour before HS games and has been kicked out of a game or three is in usual trash talking form. His son is on the mound. His son is the complete opposite of his father in personality from what I have seen. Well Dad notices the hitter has elbow protection on the elbow closest to the pitcher. Dad proceeds to say sort of under his breath that the pitcher should hit him right on the elbow pad. I am doing GameChanger so I did not see who said it but I know the voice well enough to know who said it. It was the pitcher's father. Now I am willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. I don't think Pitcher's Dad wanted his son to actually hit the batter with a runner on in the top of the last inning with a tournament title on the line. I also don't think the kid heard his dad and even if he did the pitcher would not have hit the batter.

Unfortunately, the batter's mom and dad did not think Pitcher's Dad that said it deserved that benefit of the doubt. The batter's dad demanded to know who wanted his son hit on the elbow. At this point I am underneath where the dad is standing as he is on the bleachers while I am in chair along the fence behind the plate. The same voice who said the previous comment has the nerve to say that no one on our side said any such thing. At that point, I have to turn around because what? Evidently the batter's parents recognized his voice and let him know in the most colorful language possible that they did not appreciate what Pitcher's Dad said and that while their son goes to a private school, they(his parents) were not the typical private school parents and were fully prepared for violence. Once again, no one seemed willing to defuse the situation. Pitcher's Dad then became very quiet, things sort of died down and things focused back on the game. I did notice Pitcher's Dad was not there at the end of the game by the time I finalized the game and got up from my chair. I found out later that the our team's dugout did hear the commotion but did not know what it was all about. I really hope the pitcher does not find out the full story just from an embarrassment point of view

One common theme in all of the most recent confrontations as far as I can tell. There seems to be some expectation by one of the potential combatants that someone or someones are going to get in between him and the other guy and calm things down before the fight happens. Not only has that not happened on a consistent basis, in many cases, their wife or girlfriend was much more likely to encourage the fight to happen than to stop things from escalating.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Ngl, pitcher's dad had that coming. And probably a shattered bone or two.

Not for thinking it, nor even for saying it ... but for the sheer stupidity of saying it where the other side could overhear it.

Anybody that dumb, I'm not really gonna feel bad if they get an ER trip.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

Over the last six months or so, my son and I have been around more testosterone fueled confrontations involving men over forty years old than I can remember. Most have been at the travel baseball fields but there have also been a few at stores and gas stations before and after the most recent hurricanes and one in a barber shop. Fortunately most of them have been mostly verbal but a couple have seen punches thrown. My son was surprised by the latter because it became very clear almost immediately that only one of the tough guys barking back and forth was prepared to or capable of engaging in any fistfight while the other was hoping for someone to break things up and no one stepped in to stop things.

That backstory leads me to a fall ball high school game between my son's public high school and a local private Catholic high school. I described the schools only because a) my son learned that just because someone goes to a religious school does not mean they will always speak and act in accordance with said religious doctrine and b) those distinctions played its part in the banter/trash talk/insults that were going back and forth among certain parents.

Anyway, our team is in the field. One of the fathers on our side who has been know to engage in his own happy hour before HS games and has been kicked out of a game or three is in usual trash talking form. His son is on the mound. His son is the complete opposite of his father in personality from what I have seen. Well Dad notices the hitter has elbow protection on the elbow closest to the pitcher. Dad proceeds to say sort of under his breath that the pitcher should hit him right on the elbow pad. I am doing GameChanger so I did not see who said it but I know the voice well enough to know who said it. It was the pitcher's father. Now I am willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. I don't think Pitcher's Dad wanted his son to actually hit the batter with a runner on in the top of the last inning with a tournament title on the line. I also don't think the kid heard his dad and even if he did the pitcher would not have hit the batter.

Unfortunately, the batter's mom and dad did not think Pitcher's Dad that said it deserved that benefit of the doubt. The batter's dad demanded to know who wanted his son hit on the elbow. At this point I am underneath where the dad is standing as he is on the bleachers while I am in chair along the fence behind the plate. The same voice who said the previous comment has the nerve to say that no one on our side said any such thing. At that point, I have to turn around because what? Evidently the batter's parents recognized his voice and let him know in the most colorful language possible that they did not appreciate what Pitcher's Dad said and that while their son goes to a private school, they(his parents) were not the typical private school parents and were fully prepared for violence. Once again, no one seemed willing to defuse the situation. Pitcher's Dad then became very quiet, things sort of died down and things focused back on the game. I did notice Pitcher's Dad was not there at the end of the game by the time I finalized the game and got up from my chair. I found out later that the our team's dugout did hear the commotion but did not know what it was all about. I really hope the pitcher does not find out the full story just from an embarrassment point of view

One common theme in all of the most recent confrontations as far as I can tell. There seems to be some expectation by one of the potential combatants that someone or someones are going to get in between him and the other guy and calm things down before the fight happens. Not only has that not happened on a consistent basis, in many cases, their wife or girlfriend was much more likely to encourage the fight to happen than to stop things from escalating.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Ngl, pitcher's dad had that coming. And probably a shattered bone or two.

Not for thinking it, nor even for saying it ... but for the sheer stupidity of saying it where the other side could overhear it.

Anybody that dumb, I'm not really gonna feel bad if they get an ER trip.

From what I have been told, his point of view is this was an example of everybody in the country being too sensitive and too quick to be offended by some harmless ribbing.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

From what I have been told, his point of view is this was an example of everybody in the country being too sensitive and too quick to be offended by some harmless ribbing.

I funking hate people like that.

[Lathum]

So my son is in the marching band and yesterday we had our annual rivalry game. We were the away team so our band does the pre game performance. We went on a little late due to the weather. As our band was performing on the field the home team decided to let their players take the field and they ran through our band, knocking into and over several band kids. Several band members, my son included, claim the coaches were yelling at the kids to get the fuck off their field. I was 5 feet away. It was appalling. My cousin was with me, she is an attorney and said it was absolutely assault. I know of at least 2 parents pressing charges, one of whoms kid has bruises. I immediately started a facebook post about it on our towns page and it's blown up. I have had 3 different media outlets contact me as well as countless parents who are all planning on calling the super, AD, and principale for the school. It was horrendous.

[PilotMan]

Go get em. That's totally unacceptable.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by Lathum

So my son is in the marching band and yesterday we had our annual rivalry game. We were the away team so our band does the pre game performance. We went on a little late due to the weather. As our band was performing on the field the home team decided to let their players take the field and they ran through our band, knocking into and over several band kids. Several band members, my son included, claim the coaches were yelling at the kids to get the fuck off their field. I was 5 feet away. It was appalling. My cousin was with me, she is an attorney and said it was absolutely assault. I know of at least 2 parents pressing charges, one of whoms kid has bruises. I immediately started a facebook post about it on our towns page and it's blown up. I have had 3 different media outlets contact me as well as countless parents who are all planning on calling the super, AD, and principale for the school. It was horrendous.

Yeah, I think pressing charges needs to be done. I would assume some videoed the incident on their phones?

Not saying there is any justification but visiting teams bring their bands to road games? Interesting. Never happened in my day or when my kids were in school in Iowa. Home team band played the anthem and probably a half time show, and that was it. Maybe if you're playing at the state finals the band goes? Haven't had a team make the finals, so really don't know.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by Sweed

Not saying there is any justification but visiting teams bring their bands to road games? Interesting. Never happened in my day or when my kids were in school in Iowa. Home team band played the anthem and probably a half time show, and that was it. Maybe if you're playing at the state finals the band goes? Haven't had a team make the finals, so really don't know.

We went to every game home and away all the way through and did our halftime show before the home band did theirs. And yes one of the unwritten rules was to make sure you were nowhere near the home team's sidelines or locker room unless the football team had already left the field or the home band was between their football team and us. Our main rivals were also our homecoming opponents every year. We always had an alternative way of entering the field on the road. One so we could perform towards our fans and two to keep us from having to go near their locker rooms or the home stands. Their band did the same.

Not saying this as a justification or a boast, just stating what happened back then. Having been to more than a few HS football over the last two years, things have very much gone towards HS bands not traveling.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

We went to every game home and away all the way through and did our halftime show before the home band did theirs. And yes one of the unwritten rules was to make sure you were nowhere near the home team's sidelines or locker room unless the football team had already left the field or the home band was between their football team and us. Our main rivals were also our homecoming opponents every year. We always had an alternative way of entering the field on the road. One so we could perform towards our fans and two to keep us from having to go near their locker rooms or the home stands. Their band did the same.

Not saying this as a justification or a boast, just stating what happened back then. Having been to more than a few HS football over the last two years, things have very much gone towards HS bands not traveling.

Well, that is interesting. Growing up where it never happened (small town Iowa), for me in the 60's and 70's, and my kids in the 90's and 00's, it never occurred to me that any bands went to road games.

[Lathum]

Story has been picked up by local media, I was interviewed earlier today. Wondering if bigger outlets will pick it up.

I may start getting death threats.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Sweed

Yeah, I think pressing charges needs to be done. I would assume some videoed the incident on their phones?

Not saying there is any justification but visiting teams bring their bands to road games? Interesting. Never happened in my day or when my kids were in school in Iowa. Home team band played the anthem and probably a half time show, and that was it. Maybe if you're playing at the state finals the band goes? Haven't had a team make the finals, so really don't know.

The only cases where the visiting band doesn't make the trip in Georgia I'm aware of tend to be the rare occasion where they have an early morning band competition the following day. Not doing so would be almost unheard of.

They even typically travel even if circumstances prevent them from performing a show (such as the odd occurrence of the home team having senior night & Homecoming fall on the same night, wiping out band performance window in both pre-game and halftime)

[Lathum]

I’m hearing an apology is coming tomorrow and at least one parent is still wanting to press charges.

[Ghost Econ]

Not really about awful youth sports parents, but do other sports change their practice times when schools are on break? I ask because when my daughter was doing gymnastics, they would move practices to during the day when schools were on holidays. Now that she swims year round they also do that.

Since I don't have experience with other sports, do all sports that are active during the holidays do this? Do they just not care that parents still have to work during the weekdays and it's kinda hard to get kids to practice in the middle of the day? Not to mention that we have a swim meet the weekend before Christmas and then one the weekend after New Years, which means kids can't afford to skip many practices. I'll be so happy when she can drive herself next year and we can stop playing this scheduling game we've been stuck in for the past decade.

[Atocep]

I think that's pretty standard. Even when I played in HS our basketball practices would move to early mornings over Chritsmas break.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

Since I don't have experience with other sports, do all sports that are active during the holidays do this? Do they just not care that parents still have to work during the weekdays and it's kinda hard to get kids to practice in the middle of the day? Not to mention that we have a swim meet the weekend before Christmas and then one the weekend after New Years, which means kids can't afford to skip many practices. I'll be so happy when she can drive herself next year and we can stop playing this scheduling game we've been stuck in for the past decade.

Pretty typical I think.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

Not really about awful youth sports parents, but do other sports change their practice times when schools are on break? I ask because when my daughter was doing gymnastics, they would move practices to during the day when schools were on holidays. Now that she swims year round they also do that.

Since I don't have experience with other sports, do all sports that are active during the holidays do this? Do they just not care that parents still have to work during the weekdays and it's kinda hard to get kids to practice in the middle of the day? Not to mention that we have a swim meet the weekend before Christmas and then one the weekend after New Years, which means kids can't afford to skip many practices. I'll be so happy when she can drive herself next year and we can stop playing this scheduling game we've been stuck in for the past decade.

School sports have almost always been a yes. For the non school sports that have switched, they did so if the majority of the kids lived within walking/biking distance of the practice location, if the kids are driving age, or finally if there are enough parents willing to drive groups of kids to the practice location. That last one has happened more frequently in areas where the household income is more than a bit above the national average.

[flere-imsaho]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dad-charge...y?id=118667407

Ice hockey. The refs were 12 & 14.

[sovereignstar v2]

My 10yo is going to be doing organized softball for the first time this summer. She's getting a little bit of a late start, but I got her a glove and wiffle ball set last summer and I see potential even though she isn't super athletic. I'm pretty excited to see how it goes.

[Lathum]

Not sure where this belongs. Hope these entitled little pricks get everything they deserve.

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[albionmoonlight]

The district attorney said the case will likely be handled in family court, and those who turn themselves in will have the opportunity to "end this situation without a criminal conviction and a criminal record."

Shorter DA: The suspects are all rich white kids.

[Lathum]

Yup.

FFS they tied a kids hand behind his back, put a pillowcase over his head, and put him in a trunk.

It's fucking kidnapping, yet them and their parents will somehow make them the victim.

My town had a really bad hazing incident a few years back where a bunch of football players anally violated a kid with a broomstick. The season was cancelled when the team was a state champion level squad. A bunch of parents, of rich white kids, went crazy blaming the victim.

[Ghost Econ]

Tangentially related, but a senior boy on my daughter's high school swim team was arrested Friday on 3 counts of coercing and distributing child sexual abuse material. The rumor is it was pics of his 15 year old girlfriend and honestly thats probably best case scenario. If that's true, he's still an idiot, but I don't know that it should ruin his future.

However, the report said the police got a tip from the national missing children and abuse center, so I can't imagine someone reported him on a lark. If it's actually kiddie porn, we were all young and edgy at 18, but we knew what the was too past the line and the punishment needs to be severe.

It's a sad story, it was the day before his senior prom and a month before graduation. My daughter said he was the nicest kid. Got there early, stayed late, always helped and cheered people on. She said he never seemed off and got the team character award every year she was on the ream. Evidently he came to school Monday but the school didn't know about the arrest. They found out mid-day and had a mock fire drill and pulled him out of class.

Gotta love private schools.

[flere-imsaho]

Every year since I became a soccer referee I say "well, I thought last year was bad for shortages, but this one is even worse".

Well, I thought the previous years were bad for soccer referee shortages in my neck of the woods, but this year is even worse. Multiple emails a day, including weekdays, from assignors begging people to take assignments. Multiple emails a week from assignors as far away as Iowa begging refs from anywhere to come ref tournaments. And then on the weekends a slew of emails, texts, and even phone calls asking for coverage for refs who call in sick or injured. It's pretty wild.

[Flasch186]

Charge parents more $ and pay more

There’s the solution

Just like at the gas station up on the corner where the manager said no one wants to work

I said well, “they don’t want to work for the pay you’re offering.”

The scoff was audible


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[Lathum]

Hard disagree.

Youth sports needs to be more accessible, not less, and charging a premium just so you can pay officials more to put up with parents crap isn't the answer.

there needs to be a zero tolerance policy for bad behavior. Our league has a one year ban for any offense and we haven't had any issues.

[flere-imsaho]

USSF rolled out significantly more harsh penalties for ref abuse this spring (with significant multipliers if the ref is a minor), but a) it's still on leagues to implement and enforce and b) the damage might be done already.

[Flasch186]

Lathum my point is aligned with Flere’s last statement

Unfortunately the momentum has been lost and so now, in order to counter the fact that the leagues moved too late and allowed abuse for a decade now, they have to pay the price to get refs to show up or else they just won’t have the manpower… like it is today unfortunately.


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[flere-imsaho]

I agree with you both, really.

I agree with Lathum that what really needs to happen is that leagues need to take a zero tolerance policy, stick with it, and eventually make these games accessible to younger referees, getting them to stick with it for longer, which helps both the pipeline and the costs. Youth sports is too pay-for-play these days anyway.

But Flasch echoes my main point, which it's going to take a lot to bring refs back and to convince younger refs to go out there, especially when they can make similar or more money baby sitting, dog walking, etc....

[JonInMiddleGA]

Given what I've seen of various youth sports over the past decade, a reduction in them is probably a good thing.

The atrocious officiating makes many of them unwatchable more often than not, and the young ones are among the worst.

Granted I grew up in a small town but I could probably still name every umpire we ever had for youth baseball, only one ever under the age of 40, and while there were bad calls, there was virtually zero concern about those being anything other than honest human error.

Those days are sadly long gone.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Flasch186

Just like at the gas station up on the corner where the manager said no one wants to work

I said well, “they don’t want to work for the pay you’re offering.”

The scoff was audible.

Back in the brief post-Covid window when labor actually had equal power to business, I was on vacation and we tried to order takeout from a restaurant and the manager answered the phone and said they couldn’t do takeout because they were so understaffed cause he couldn’t get enough workers and he was very sorry. And I said That it was fine and he can run his business however he wants and that’s OK. And he started arguing that it wasn’t about how he ran his business it was that no one wanted to work. And I said no you make choices about your staff and really I’m not upset. We’ll just get food from somewhere else. And it was so important for him That I understand that the problem wasn’t supply and demand, but was, in fact, some vague undefined laziness of people who did not want to be underpaid by him.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Back in the brief post-Covid window when labor actually had equal power to business, I was on vacation and we tried to order takeout from a restaurant and the manager answered the phone and said they couldn’t do takeout because they were so understaffed cause he couldn’t get enough workers and he was very sorry. And I said That it was fine and he can run his business however he wants and that’s OK. And he started arguing that it wasn’t about how he ran his business it was that no one wanted to work. And I said no you make choices about your staff and really I’m not upset. We’ll just get food from somewhere else. And it was so important for him That I understand that the problem wasn’t supply and demand, but was, in fact, some vague undefined laziness of people who did not want to be underpaid by him.

I find it interesting that older people call this generation soft because they won't just work these jobs for no pay, report hazing and generally shitty treatment, and decided to stand up for themselves. Past generations just let people walk all all over them without standing up for themselves and think that's what toughness is.

[Lathum]

I almost got run for the first time last night.

I coach my daughters rec team. We were playing a team from a different town last night that we really wanted to beat. After being up 5-1 the game was tied 6-6 thanks to a few rough plays in the field from traditional "rec" players (you will understand if you have a kid who played rec ball).

My daughter caught the whole game since we were playing to win (she is starting catcher as a sixth grader for the middle school team and also plays high lever tournament travel ball), plus our other catcher wasn't there.

Bottom of the last inning tied 6-6. Their lead off batter of course hits one to by far the worst kid on our team and it predictably gets botched. It is rec so I don't get upset by that. Girl is on second and next pitch steals third. My daughter rifles a throw down and the girl just beats it but as she pops up her leg comes a good 6 inches off the bag with the tag still on and her other leg clearly on the dirt. My daughter immediately looks at the ump and says her leg was off the bag. He says nope, safe.

He had blown a similar call earlier in the game where she gunned down a girl at third and the girl slid a good 2 inches off the bag and he called her safe.

I started screaming at the ump saying that was twice he missed that call and he has to see that and make the right call. We of course lost and I was so pissed.

We record all the games and I went back and watched and it is clear as day her foot came up. also cost my daughter 2 caught stealings when at that age those are hard to come by.

[HerRealName]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I almost got run for the first time last night.

I coach my daughters rec team. We were playing a team from a different town last night that we really wanted to beat. After being up 5-1 the game was tied 6-6 thanks to a few rough plays in the field from traditional "rec" players (you will understand if you have a kid who played rec ball).

My daughter caught the whole game since we were playing to win (she is starting catcher as a sixth grader for the middle school team and also plays high lever tournament travel ball), plus our other catcher wasn't there.

Bottom of the last inning tied 6-6. Their lead off batter of course hits one to by far the worst kid on our team and it predictably gets botched. It is rec so I don't get upset by that. Girl is on second and next pitch steals third. My daughter rifles a throw down and the girl just beats it but as she pops up her leg comes a good 6 inches off the bag with the tag still on and her other leg clearly on the dirt. My daughter immediately looks at the ump and says her leg was off the bag. He says nope, safe.

He had blown a similar call earlier in the game where she gunned down a girl at third and the girl slid a good 2 inches off the bag and he called her safe.

I started screaming at the ump saying that was twice he missed that call and he has to see that and make the right call. We of course lost and I was so pissed.

We record all the games and I went back and watched and it is clear as day her foot came up. also cost my daughter 2 caught stealings when at that age those are hard to come by.

If you could do it all over, would you scream at the ump again?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by HerRealName

If you could do it all over, would you scream at the ump again?

yep.

[Lathum]

dola- I rewatched the video and you can see my daughter turn to the ump and just look at him like, WTF dude.