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151 | 68.95% |
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63 | 28.77% |
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5 | 2.28% |
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#4051 |
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Easily amused, I see. |
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I can't imagine Hillary would be dumb enough to take the spot now. She's going to do just enough to stay in the good graces of the Dem masses and otherwise hope to run again in four years either against Palin or some other GOP'er (because I don't see McCain seeking a second term). Pretty good foot in mouth from Biden though.
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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at least he put a disclaimer on his post with the popcorn guy...I wish their was a spin doctor emoticon.
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Much ado about nothing. But hey, that's Fox "Fair and Balanced" News. Last edited by ace1914 : 09-10-2008 at 05:22 PM. |
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College Starter
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: South Florida
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Maybe you Fox-phobes will like this link better
CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Biden: Hillary might have been better VP pick « - Blogs from CNN.com |
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Newburgh, NY
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It's good to know that no one has ever complemented or flattered someone without being 100% sincere.
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Thanks. I love your bipartisan approach to politics today. |
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Georgia
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Yeah I meant nationally. But even in New Mexico, I doubt all 8% of that is from undecideds. I think he picked up some undecideds and stole some from Obama. Nationally it appears to be mostly the latter taking place, but who knows what it could be in New Mexico. I am wondering if McCain's bounce is coming bigger in red states than in battleground states (the Palin factor). This would explain the massive change in the NC numbers, but not such a wide change elsewhere. For instance, Florida is curiously dead even.
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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Uh no, don't think I would've. Not that enamored with the woman. Don't go out and try to find an issue where someone gives another a genuine complement and try to spin it to say "wrong pick." That's silly. Last edited by ace1914 : 09-10-2008 at 05:42 PM. |
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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because you took it and spun it...like the lipstick shit.
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Georgia
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Maybe it's just me, but Rasmussen seems to be saying two different things in that link. The chart shows Obama with a 47-41 lead in August, but the article says he had a 48-44 lead.
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: South Florida
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By asking if this could be a set-up for Biden withdrawing allowing Obama to name Hillary as his new Veep choice? Last edited by SFL Cat : 09-10-2008 at 05:42 PM. |
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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not in that context. Read the damn article, He was being complimentary to her! SFL is just not being an honest person, a spin doctor and I'm sorry, but I hold honesty and truthfulness to a high accord and he obviously doesnt and I think he is nothing more than a troll. Ive at least seen MBBF thaw out and now look, were having healthy debates, but since SFL got smacked down about 15 pages ago and said he'd seen the light and would try to have intelligent banter he has done nothing but spout drivel and propogate the lies and mistruths and ignores intelligent challenges to instead lie on the side of garbage rhetoric. Truly a shame. SFL - post 4118 showed through.
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Newburgh, NY
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Based on what was in the story, no. There's no hint that it's anything other than flattery.
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Location: South Florida
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If that was the point he was trying to make, then he made it very poorly. |
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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LOL. SFL is who he is. I actually think its pretty funny. He's probably a secret Obama supporter that likes to stir up trouble. ![]() |
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College Starter
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: South Florida
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If it's any consolation, after breaking the scandal about John Edwards, I hear the National Enquirer is ready to launch its expose on the Palin family warts.
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Georgia
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Anyone can tell he was clearly just defending Clinton. It certainly wasn't the best choice of words and may be used as a soundbite later. Still, it's pretty stupid to suggest this is some sort of setup for him to withdraw and for Hillary to slide in.
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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...and Im not for that either. and had you made the post about Biden's quote and said instead of, "this is interesting, blah blah blah" something along the lines of, "Biden's compliment could get him in trouble later" it wouldve looked like you were coming across as truly looking for discussion. Instead you spin it like a top and stand in the corner and cry, "What? What I do?"
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Actually, I think that would be an interesting development. Obviously, it would have to be Biden who falls on the sword, because if Obama "fires" him and tags Hillary he gets the "see, he's not ready to be CIC because he should have selected Hillary in the first place."
I simply think the timing of Biden's comments is interesting, given how things have gone for the Obama campaign the past couple of weeks. I'm with Jon, though, at this point, I think Hillary would stay on the sideline. Last edited by SFL Cat : 09-10-2008 at 05:59 PM. |
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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...but that's not what you said originally. You threw it out with the spin of a top. Use 4141 type talk going forward and perhaps the debate you'll get will be more fulfilling but i honestly dont think you give two shits and the spin is the point.
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I do have one question for the spinsters, though. Where did this "messiah figure" description(about Obama) come from? I've ask because I'm watching Glen Beck(I love to watch both sides spin stories) and though I've heard it before, I never knew where it originated.
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Location: Honolulu, HI
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You can click on the 8/20 date in the chart to go to the article about that poll. It is 48-44 if they included "leaners", so I would assume the 47-41 and 49-47 do not include these people; "Leaners are those who don’t initially express a preference for one of the major candidates. But, when asked a follow-up question, they do." - quote from the 8/20 poll.
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Georgia
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Trying to get this back on track. I find it curious that people are acting like Obama is having some kind of Dukakis-esque free fall. Here's a look at some national polls pre-convention and today...
Gallup (Then) - McCain 46, Obama 44 Gallup (Now) - McCain 48, Obama 43 Result: McCain +3 Rasmussen (Then) - Obama 46, McCain 46 Rasmussen (Now) - Obama 47, McCain 46 Result: Obama +1 CNN (Then) - Obama 47, McCain 47 CNN (Now) - Obama 48, McCain 48 Result: Wash FOX News (Then) - Obama 42, McCain 39 FOX News (Now) - McCain 45, Obama 42 Result: McCain +6 So if you combine the 4 polls, McCain has an average gain of 2 points over the whole convention period, and we're still only a few days removed from the conventions. It will be interesting to see where things are at next week.
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Join Date: Mar 2002
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Well, you had Oprah calling him "The One". You had the Rolling Stone cover ![]() You had Chris Matthews saying of Obama "[he] comes along, and he seems to have the answers. This is the New Testament." You had the will.i.am video and the new "American Prayer" song. You had Halle Barry say ""I would walk ahead of him picking up garbage to clear his path if he asked me." There was the columnist in San Francisco who called Obama a "lightworker" and compared him to people like Ghandi. And then there's the artwork like this: Manifest Hope ![]() I'm sure there are other examples, but there are a few.
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Wow. Lotta stuff. Although, that Rolling Stone cover makes him look pretty cool. So nothing other than being a black guy with an actual chance for president? Dammit I took the wrong path. Should've chosen the red pill. |
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Location: Jacksonville, FL
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jump ball!
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What on earth does Obama's skin color have to do with anything that was posted? You asked a question, I answered it. Why do you feel the need to be a sarcastic jackass?
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That Rolling Stone cover is hillarious.
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Ok......what are YOU talking about? I just said that was a lot of stuff I didn't know about and didn't do anything special really and got a lot of attention. Now I know how SFLCat feels.... ![]() |
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"So nothing other than being a black guy with an actual chance for president?" Nothing posted had anything to do with being an black guy with an actual chance for president. It all addresses, however, the question you posed: Where does this Obama/Messiah thing come from? Last edited by molson : 09-10-2008 at 06:58 PM. |
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Right. So he didn't do anything special. OMFG. What is wrong with you guys? So gotdamn highstrung on politics. Sorry. I'll stay on message from here on out. Just shows how you can't say "black," "minority" or "woman" without everyone having a cow. No wonder there's no real debates. Last edited by ace1914 : 09-10-2008 at 07:04 PM. |
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How can a Muslim be a Messiah? Isn't that blasphemy?
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You crazy sonsa' bitches went through like 3 pages in 12 or so hours? Politics are the new werewolf.
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1) Muslim Messiah 2) ??? 3) Profit!! Though having a Christ be the Messiah is kind of blasphemous for Jews ![]()
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bah...you're a rookie! You're not even close. ![]() Last edited by SFL Cat : 09-10-2008 at 07:20 PM. |
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I owe you an apology. I took the "So nothing other than being a black guy with an actual chance to be president" line as you saying that what I had posted was just about a "black guy with an actual chance to be president", as opposed to what I think your intention was, which is that all the Messiah-talk stems from him being "a black guy with an actual chance to be president".* I think I'm on the same page now, and I apologize. There's been so much sarcasm in this thread it's kinda hard to tell when someone's being sincere or not. Hey, it's life imitating politics! ![]() *I still think it's more than just skin color that has some folks so enthralled. I think it's the whole package. Frankly, I think many see him not as the Obamessiah, but the 2nd Coming of John F. Kennedy. I have no doubt that if Obama wins, we'll start seeing stories about the New Camelot.
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Figured I'd save Flasch and ace1914 the trouble of replying to every post and saying "SPIN!" like the Puritans during the witch hunts. Back to subject where I left it earlier, I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that only 33% of North Carolina is registered republican and yet W got 56% of the state's vote in 2004. That's nothing short of amazing and you'd think it is something only a Messiah could accomplish ![]() |
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I call dibs on being Michael J. Fox, pre Parkinsons, yo!
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