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[Mota]

Originally Posted by Izulde

It's honestly actually the best scene in the whole episode. She'll die having been knighted and accomplishing a life long dream. Brienne's joy at being knighted was the best acting this season.

I loved that scene. First of all, the assembly of random characters from the show playing off against each other was great.

But the knighting scene was awesome. My favorite was the look on Tyrion's face when he realized it was happening. Brienne is one of those characters that is secondary to the main story, yet all the characters who come into contact with her are fiercely loyal to her. Great stuff!

I'll also agree with the undead in the crypt theory. They definitely talked about it too much for it not to happen.

There's also the feint theory that seems likely. The night king was not shown in the brief moment in the end. What if the majority of his army went south and bypassed Winterfell altogether? If Winterfell wins, and they all seem proud of themselves, but someone mentions "where was the NIght King?" and then they cut to him stepping over a crest overlooking King's Landing with his main army. That would be awesome. I just don't think they'll resolve the whole undead story in one episode, seems way too fast considering they've built up that storyline since season 1.

[RainMaker]

Brienne and Jaime is the best story in the whole show. I'm glad they never turned it romantic and hope it stays that way.

Jaime loves Brienne for being what he wishes he was. Someone who keeps an oath. Who is an altogether good person.

Brienne loves Jaime because he gives her the respect she has craved. He doesn't treat her like a woman. He treats her as an equal and that's all she's ever wanted.

[JPhillips]

Shouldn't the Night King be on a dragon somewhere?

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Didn't Bran said that the NK is coming for him? Hence the whole bait thing?

He did say that, and clearly there's some validity to the mark he has & the Night King being able to track him, but I'll be disappointed if there isn't more significance to the battle being at Winterfell. (On the plus side that cuts against the idea the Night King is going to King's Landing, which I don't really love.)

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

The book version of the Night's King is different. He was a Lord Commander of the Night's Watch (the 13th Lord Commander) who fell in love with a female Other (as they are referred to in the books) and when he had sex with her, she took his soul as well. And the Night's King and the white Other ruled as King and Queen of the Night's Watch until a previous Brandon Stark and Joramun, the King Beyond the Wall joined forces to bring him down.

And Old Nan describes him as a Stark of Winterfell to Bran. In the books he's mainly been a story.

So if that the same Night's King, he could have bided his time after being cast aside and may be going to Winterfell for his revenge (and to claim his old place).

Though in the show they change it up so the Children of the Forest turn a man into the Night King to fight against the First Men (which would be prior to the Age of Heroes when the Wall was originally built). So The Night King is likely different than the Night's King fable in the books.

Yeah, reading it closer I'm reminded there is no Night King in the books (or indication the White Walkers have a leader). There is a Night's King talked about, but he's possibly an apocryphal legend, and even if real the origin story doesn't match the Children of the Forest creation from the show.

[BishopMVP]

Next question that I'd glossed over until being reminded of it - that really was Ghost in the episode? Then why the hell hasn't he been by Jon's side the last 2 seasons, at least when they went north of the wall?!?

[bhlloy]

I know you aren't really supposed to overthink these things too much, and it's just a TV show and you can poke holes in anything (especially when it comes to villains doing the convenient stupid thing), but the Night King has a dragon and Bran is a kid in a wheelchair who tends to hang around creepily in the open in the middle of the night. Unless Dany has her other dragons in the air 24/7 interceptor style, I feel like I could solve the Bran problem relatively quickly and move onto bigger things.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Next question that I'd glossed over until being reminded of it - that really was Ghost in the episode? Then why the hell hasn't he been by Jon's side the last 2 seasons, at least when they went north of the wall?!?

I'm assuming it was ghost but CGI prevented him from looking more than 60 pounds

[MrBug708]

I'm guessing that we never see Howland Reed? What better time to show up when every other Stark Bannerman is around

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I'm guessing that we never see Howland Reed? What better time to show up when every other Stark Bannerman is around

Though Reed is only really important to verify that Jon is really Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark's kid, so he may not appear (or appear much later after Dany and Jon clash some more about it).

[Izulde]

Arya as the Waif theory is interesting, but I don't buy it.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Izulde

Arya as the Waif theory is interesting, but I don't buy it.

Unless you're saying that when you assume a person's face you get their memories too it doesn't make any sense. If it was just her killing known Stark enemies like the Frey's okay, but after her interactions with Sansa & Gendry...

[bob]

Wonder if we see zombie Hodor

[Edward64]

Watched it again tonight.

Yup, good episode. Sorry to see this end.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Unless you're saying that when you assume a person's face you get their memories too it doesn't make any sense. If it was just her killing known Stark enemies like the Frey's okay, but after her interactions with Sansa & Gendry...

The other problem with this theory is that she would've somehow turned in her own head.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Speaking of characters who kind of just got written off unceremoniously, what's up with Yara? Did the actress get pregnant or not want to appear anymore?

She did have a baby on the set she was nursing. They probably did limit her role because of that.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Watched it again tonight.

Yup, good episode.

Agreed. I fear that the next episode is going to be a disappointment. Yeah, it'll be a battle and all that and people we know will die. But I'm not entirely sure I'm going to enjoy 80+ minutes of fighting (cause I doubt they'll be political scheming during it ).

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

(cause I doubt they'll be political scheming during it ).

Sleeping with a relative on the other hand ...

[ISiddiqui]

During a battle? That'd be a risky military maneuver...

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

During a battle? That'd be a risky military maneuver...

TV, gotta keep the viewers watching

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

TV, gotta keep the viewers watching

Nah, this is the blood episode. The gratuitous no reason for this many naked people episode (though they had a few scenes of that - the Bronn scene in Ep1 for instance) will be the next one.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

During a battle? That'd be a risky military maneuver...

Let's be honest. Lord Snow has had a mixed record when it comes to sound strategic decisions.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

During a battle? That'd be a risky military maneuver...

What if the relative was undead?

[Radii]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Let's be honest. Lord Snow has had a mixed record when it comes to sound strategic decisions.

"Mixed" is being extremely generous.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I'm guessing that we never see Howland Reed? What better time to show up when every other Stark Bannerman is around

You're right. The show has really done nothing to push the "Howland Reed was there and is the only living person who really knows" narrative. It's a big thing in the books, but not the show. The show is very likely just going to rely on Bran and Sam for this one.

[Edward64]

Arrgggh. Checked into hotel only to find out it has Showtime but not HBO.

Feel free to give me real-time updates!

[Shkspr]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Feel free to give me real-time updates!

Dey ded.

[spleen1015]

HBO NOW slow af right now

[JPhillips]

Carice Van Houten in the opening credits.

[Lathum]

Is it just me or is it too dark to see what the fuck is happening?

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Is it just me or is it too dark to see what the fuck is happening?

It's not you

[Edward64]

Found a streaming site.

So tell me again why they fought outside the castle? Why they wasted the Dothraki?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

It's not you

good. I legit was thinking something is wrong with the TV

[Edward64]

Cool, World War Z (in slower motion) meets GOT

[Edward64]

Way to kill the zombie giant! A good death.

[Edward64]

Well done Theon.

Not sure if debt is fully repaid but you came a long way.

[ISiddiqui]

Not a great episode here. They fall into the cliche where they build it up like everyone is going to die but then are miraculously saved as the (literal) last minute with deus ex Arya. And the rest of it had a lot of waiting. And you know when you have the dead all lined up waiting, it'd be nice if you had a dragon to light them on fire... Oh well, on to King's Landing.

But Melissandre was a boss.

And damn that episode was dark on screen

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[Izulde]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Is it just me or is it too dark to see what the fuck is happening?

Not just you. Horribly shot the entire episode. I'm irritated.

[spleen1015]

I loved it, start to finish.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Not a great episode here. They fall into the cliche where they build it up like everyone is going to die but then are miraculously saved as the (literal) last minute with deus ex Arya. And the rest of it had a lot of waiting. And you know when you have the dead all lined up waiting, it'd be nice if you had a dragon to light them on fire... Oh well, on to King's Landing.

But Melissandre was a boss.

And damn that episode was dark on screen

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The whole episode was a cascade of cliches that Martin had seemingly set out to destroy.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Not a great episode here. They fall into the cliche where they build it up like everyone is going to die but then are miraculously saved as the (literal) last minute with deus ex Arya. And the rest of it had a lot of waiting. And you know when you have the dead all lined up waiting, it'd be nice if you had a dragon to light them on fire... Oh well, on to King's Landing.

But Melissandre was a boss.

And damn that episode was dark on screen

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Yeah, I didn't like the deus ex Arya ending. Didn't like the battle strategy, lots of good soldiers wasted.

But enjoyed the episode.

I guess the House Mormont is done?

[Izulde]

Yeah, it was a pretty bad episode. Deus ex Arya was pretty easy to call. Death count held nothing surprising either:

Edd
Jamie
Brienne
Beris
Melisandre
Lyanna ( - Awesome way to go though)
Jorah -
Theon

Did I miss anybody? Was hard to tell.

And fuck Jon. I counted at least twice where zombie dragonbreath should have scorched him, but he miraculously showed no ill effects because of that stupid fucking plot armor.

[Lathum]

So I saw Jamie and Brienne seemingly overwhelmed, but did we actually see them die? I would think they would have more ceremonial deaths, especially Jamie.

I know I have mentioned it a few times, but it was so damn dark hard to tell who is who.

[JPhillips]

Didn't we see Jamie and Brienne as the dead were falling?

[ISiddiqui]

Jamie and Brienne are alive, I believe. Saved be Deus ex Arya as they were being overwhelmed.

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[Coffee Warlord]

I was rooting for the dragons to burn more things just so they would brighten up the damn screen.

[Lathum]

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[Lathum]

GOT Twitter really showing its chops today, some funny stuff

[Lathum]

Oh no pic.twitter.com/caBUaeWuco

— Pete Blackburn (@PeteBlackburn) April 29, 2019

[Lathum]

“We’re on to Cersei.” - Arya pic.twitter.com/Tktzv9W4Mg

— Joe Ovies (@joeovies) April 29, 2019

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Not a great episode here. They fall into the cliche where they build it up like everyone is going to die but then are miraculously saved as the (literal) last minute with deus ex Arya. And the rest of it had a lot of waiting. And you know when you have the dead all lined up waiting, it'd be nice if you had a dragon to light them on fire... Oh well, on to King's Landing.

But Melissandre was a boss.

And damn that episode was dark on screen

I actually thought the epic payoff (Arya saving last minute, only to look like she'd be strangled, to using a move she'd shown before vs Brienne) was well done, rest was frustrating. Zero payoff to Starks in the crypts type angles, zero useful things done by Bran, absolutely atrocious battle tactics even in real time on the livings side and in retrospect on the Night King's side, way too much episode time spent playing hide & seek (pretty effectively apparently!), only actually killing off one real main character (Jorah - Lyanna, Beric & Edd I like, but I'd forgot Edd even existed until last week and the other two are fringe). It's been building to the Theon redemption, but I still dislike him & Melisandre. Was Gilly the one dragged away in the crypts too? If so good riddance. Way too many characters on the brink of death only to be saved.

It was never going to live up to the theories or go as in depth as I'd like, but there was absolutely zero tying in to any of the history that made the books great. I've joked for years that Martin was waiting to see how viewers received the show finale before he wrote his last books and would change a major character death or who won the throne to fuck with people, but now I'm back to 100% hoping for him to write them and provide the backstory these writers didn't even attempt to include.