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Old 10-19-2008, 02:20 PM   #4301
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Briefly, and I believe accurately, here is my energy usage (sorry, anal about deleting PMs due to the possibility of possession so I figured I would delete/hide all starting and action info from that person in case it happened):

Galactus, Guard, Mission, Mission, Mission, No mission, Galactus, 8, 9

Day 1, Galactus- I used 6 points against Galactus and 1 point on the vote, for 7. That left me 3.

Day 2, Guard- I used 1 point in the vote and recovered 4. That gave me 6.

Day 3, Mission- The Destroyer. I used 1 in vote and 4 in the mission. That gave me 5 after I recovered.

Day 4, Mission- Egypt I think. I used 3 points in the mission, 1 point in the vote, leaving me 1 point plus 4 I recover, I have 5.

Day 5, no mission- used 1 point on the vote. Recover 4, leaves me with 8.

Day 6, mission- Space Invaders, I used 6 points on this, 1 point on vote, leaving me 1 plus recovery for 5.

Day 7, mission- Galactus, I used 4 points on this, 1 point on vote, leaving me 0 plus recovery for 4.

Day 8, guard duty- 1 on vote, energy recovery to 7.

Day 9, nothing- 1 energy on vote, energy to 10.

I actually think I have 9 but I don't see where I can be off so that's pretty accurate. I have defensive abilities which is why, until the end, I tried to hold back at least one point. I thought the Galactus mission was very important because, and I'm sorry, I didn't believe that Doom had done what he claimed to be able to do. Fury, I appreciate the time you're putting into this, I hope this helps.
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Old 10-19-2008, 02:21 PM   #4302
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8,9 were supposed to be in black type, don't know how I messed that up.
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Old 10-19-2008, 02:23 PM   #4303
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Cable[/color];1855300]Mission details...

You alight to Tokyo to find a lightly guarded factory. Firebird melts the gates and you announce your presence with authority. Men scatter, with only a token few security guards opening fire with their weapons. Magneto dismisses these attacks with a wave of his hand and Aardwolf gorges on a helpless secretary.

Inside, you find the factory is deserted. This seems extremely odd - there are billions of dollars invested in the metal here but nothing stands between you and victory? The answer appears to be "no". Quicksilver dashes over to the computer and begins downloading data, then introducing a virus created by Sinister to shut down opearations for good. One lone Sentinel creaks forward, spotting Nightcrawler and opening fire with some type of plasma weapon. The blue warrior teleports rapidly, continuing to draw fire as Punisher rattles the machine with armor-piercing bullets. Henry Pym then assumes his giant form, and grapples with the robot while Beast jumps inside the robot and tears it open from within.

The building is destroyed by an air strike as you return to Washington DC to plan your next move. You emerge from this mission perplexed by your good fortune.

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I like it.

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That was FAR too easy.

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Magneto[/color];1855309]My time would have been better spent against Galactus.

If the ease of the mission is due to my daughter's intervention, then well done.

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I agree with the others, that seemed far too easy given what happened on the first mission yesterday. Either Scarlet Witch had a strong affect on the results and/or we far exceeded the energy required for this mission. Or the mission was a set-up by the opposition to get us to commit our forces to it and not to finding them. In any case, I was happy to "stretch my legs" and hold off the Sentinel during the attack.

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It appears the Scarlet Witch put the odds in our favor. Very well done.

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The mission was unusually succesful with little resistance at all.

As you can see, the beneficiary early on at least of the mission's rousing success was Scarlet Witch. There really wasn't much noise about the valor of the other participants.
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Old 10-19-2008, 02:41 PM   #4304
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Perhaps that was a dead end line of thinking then. It does not appear from what you quoted that anyone really tried to go on it out of place and no one really tried to play it up afterwards to gain trust. Unless they were slowplaying it, doesn't really seem that my line of thinking really matches up with those very well. I figured it worth a look, but does not seem to be as much there.
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Old 10-19-2008, 04:05 PM   #4305
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A tip to my fellow loyalists for the next night phase.

Save all of the chatter about who you want to lynch for the day cycle. Now the rebels know you're going to lynch me tomorrow and they won't night kill me. They'll let you do it tomorrow. They'll take out someone else tonight.

That's a good thing, right? I mean, isn't it better if you don't die?
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Old 10-19-2008, 04:06 PM   #4306
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At the time, I had no inkling that the missions were events that the rebels actually had to play an active role. I believed that particular mission result was a function of the Scarlet Witch's influence. This does bear thought. Was there anyone who was not originally going on that mission, but jumped in uninvited, or some such?

I thought the result was due to my influence as well.
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Old 10-19-2008, 06:10 PM   #4307
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... the late ruler of Latvia.


DrDoom would be apopletic upon reading this.

Latveria - not Latvia.
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Old 10-19-2008, 06:41 PM   #4308
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A tip to my fellow loyalists for the next night phase.

Save all of the chatter about who you want to lynch for the day cycle. Now the rebels know you're going to lynch me tomorrow and they won't night kill me. They'll let you do it tomorrow. They'll take out someone else tonight.

Or you won't be killed because you can't kill yourself? I know I am being strong minded here, but many villagers throughout the game have had this same, I'm innocent, listen to me or else and providing no information or help to the village to find someone more suitable or prove innocence.
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Old 10-19-2008, 06:45 PM   #4309
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An the village working together to provide analysis is never a bad thing, esepcially now oc=ver the weekend when we can simply look at information instead of making rash decision about lynching. While at this point I am fairly set on voting for you, if information came out which helped paint you in a better light, or someone else in a worse light, I would change my mind.
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Old 10-19-2008, 06:48 PM   #4310
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And Ghostrider and Punisher provided the information I asked of you, and I am sure they are no more likely be lynched now than before. If you are innocent, give us a reason to trust you. Simply saying I am villager and you guys will be stupid to lynch me is not helpful.
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Old 10-19-2008, 06:50 PM   #4311
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Perhaps that was a dead end line of thinking then. It does not appear from what you quoted that anyone really tried to go on it out of place and no one really tried to play it up afterwards to gain trust. Unless they were slowplaying it, doesn't really seem that my line of thinking really matches up with those very well. I figured it worth a look, but does not seem to be as much there.

Not necessarily true. On previous days when we questioned Cable, he always used the two successful missions he was on to show that he was helping. He may not have went around talking about it right away, but has certainly used it as a reason to trust him throughout the game.
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Old 10-19-2008, 07:41 PM   #4312
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DrDoom would be apopletic upon reading this.

Latveria - not Latvia.

I'm sure that he'd consider apopletic a preferable state than cadaverous.
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Old 10-19-2008, 07:54 PM   #4313
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Not necessarily true. On previous days when we questioned Cable, he always used the two successful missions he was on to show that he was helping. He may not have went around talking about it right away, but has certainly used it as a reason to trust him throughout the game.

On the face of it, I cannot argue with your point. However, if any of us had an exemplary record of mission success, would we not use the fact as evidence of our virtue and value?

By which I mean, I do not take this fact to be damning, really.

I am also leaning toward a Cable lynch tomorrow night. I am actually hoping something else occurs to either turn us away from this path, or to confirm our suspicions.

Thus far we have been impugning and striking at those among us for no evidence except the lack of overt help they've been to us. While I'm not suggesting that I have a better solution (certainly not, bearing in mind that my finest moment was a ferocious attack on the innocent Quicksilver), I am alarmed that Cable is essentially making the same arguments that Silver Samurai, Quicksilver, and Colossus made.

I find myself frustrated with our lack of real headway, especially today, when there was time for a measure of legitimate analysis. The remaining rebel(s) are playing us well.
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Old 10-19-2008, 08:02 PM   #4314
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On the face of it, I cannot argue with your point. However, if any of us had an exemplary record of mission success, would we not use the fact as evidence of our virtue and value?

By which I mean, I do not take this fact to be damning, really.

I am also leaning toward a Cable lynch tomorrow night. I am actually hoping something else occurs to either turn us away from this path, or to confirm our suspicions.

Thus far we have been impugning and striking at those among us for no evidence except the lack of overt help they've been to us. While I'm not suggesting that I have a better solution (certainly not, bearing in mind that my finest moment was a ferocious attack on the innocent Quicksilver), I am alarmed that Cable is essentially making the same arguments that Silver Samurai, Quicksilver, and Colossus made.

I find myself frustrated with our lack of real headway, especially today, when there was time for a measure of legitimate analysis. The remaining rebel(s) are playing us well.

The examples you gave was the result of villagers doing stupid things and then reacting very poorly to questions about their actions. I just don't understand how people think that is a helpful way to go about things as a loyalist once accused of being a rebel.

Still, I agree with you. My drilling of cable is in hops to get more information, not create a runaway.
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Old 10-19-2008, 08:05 PM   #4315
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Spiderman, what are your thoughts on all of this? Can you give us any additional information on your energy usage and or abilities (as long as it does help the rebels)?
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Old 10-19-2008, 08:13 PM   #4316
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Still, once again I come back to the energy point. Cable is not willing to explain what his energy has been used for. This is past tense and of no help to the rebels. I personally want from Cable, Magneto and Spiderman and even you Vision what Ghost Rider and Punisher gave.
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Old 10-19-2008, 08:15 PM   #4317
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I'll even give mine as well.

I've used one energy for every attack I've made. I used 3 on the one galactus mission I went on, 7 for Shadow King's attack of Jean Grey and 8 total for my two scans for the Ghost King. I still have a fair amount of energy left as well
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Old 10-19-2008, 08:57 PM   #4318
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Spiderman, what are your thoughts on all of this? Can you give us any additional information on your energy usage and or abilities (as long as it does not help the rebels)?

Fixed
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Old 10-19-2008, 09:20 PM   #4319
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Nick, there is nothing particularly illuminating about my energy usage. I have not the time to go into detail with it, as my synthezoid body grows weary.

To summarize, though:

I started with 9. I used 1 on Iron Fist. 3 on Galactus.
Recovered 4, so back to 9. Used 4 against the Sentinels. Used one attacking... someone, I cannot remember who. Attempted to activate a defensive power that night, but was told the action was disallowed. Recovered 4, now I had 8.
Used 4 against the Destroyer. Used one point against... someone. Activated a 1 point defense. Left with 2 at end of day.
Recovered 4, for total of 6. Attempted a special maneuver against Galactus which was disallowed, so only spent 1 point. Probably spent one point on lynch.
Recovered 4, for a total of 8. Committed 2 points to the rebel mission, before the Powers proclaimed that there would be no rebel mission that day, so I retained these 2 points.
I then expended all 8 points on attacking Quicksilver, to devastating (and unfortunate) effect.
Woke the next morning with 4 points. Was awarded 3 extra points by the Powers, for a total of 7. I don't seem to know what happened next, as I know I made an attack each day, but I woke the next morning with 11 points, as though I had not expended any, yet had recovered the full 4 points. I cannot look that up at this time.
Committed one point each to the Galactus mission (I believe I may have been ordered to go?) and to the lynch. Woke with 13.
Commited 5 to the Stryfe mission, and one to lynch. Woke with 11.
I have activated a defense mechanism with some of that, because at the time I feared that Scarlet Witch might betray me at night and strike me down instead of guarding me. I see now that those fears were baseless.
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Old 10-19-2008, 09:21 PM   #4320
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And now I must away. I shall see you all most likely tomorrow evening, prior to deadline.
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Old 10-19-2008, 09:33 PM   #4321
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Reminder - I know that the weekend represents a long "Night" phase but do not forget to submit night actions if you them and a desire to use them. That is all.
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Old 10-19-2008, 09:37 PM   #4322
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Reminder - I know that the weekend represents a long "Night" phase but do not forget to submit night actions if you them and a desire to use them. That is all.

I gotta say, I hate the long night. This morning had a lot of people online, and it could have been much more interesting if it were daytime. I see no reason night couldn't have ended Saturday night or even Sunday morning, but I think we're so used to 24-hour deadlines that we forgot about this.
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Old 10-19-2008, 10:34 PM   #4323
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Spiderman, what are your thoughts on all of this? Can you give us any additional information on your energy usage and or abilities (as long as it does help the rebels)?

Well, for the most part, I've used 1 energy per attack (except against Silver Samurai, where I used 3 I believe). I've used 2 web attacks which take a good bit of energy, and I used a medium amount of energy on the Galactus mission I went on. I have made no secret actions at night yet as I have nothing of real use - until my create a power became active (like 3-4 game days ago). But I haven't had a chance to use it because I've been guarding and webbing each of those days, so I haven't been able to use it.
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Old 10-19-2008, 10:50 PM   #4324
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Who were the original 5 prelates? Silver Surfer, Kang, Magneto, Prof X, and Jean Grey? After Prof X was killed, Scarlet witch pushed hard for another prelate to be named. Also, I thought it was said that only one prelate could be bad at the start. Did I have this wrong?

Silver Surfer, Kang, Mimic, Dr. Strange, Jean Grey -- in case this hasn't been answered yet.
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Old 10-19-2008, 10:52 PM   #4325
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Do you remember which mission it was that was reported that the Rebels put in 42 energy?

IF this hasn't been answered yet, someone claimed that the Rebels put all this energy into the Egypt mission, where Emma Fraost was killed.
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Old 10-19-2008, 10:57 PM   #4326
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What about Magneto? Has he used much energy at all? You would someone like him would have quite a bit.

I have participated in missions just about every day and gotten very good coverage from the Watcher in each. I have also used my standard defense a number of times, to protect Doom, Scarlet Witch, the Phoenix and myself. All this is in addition to my daily attacks, of course.
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Old 10-19-2008, 11:03 PM   #4327
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Here is another one that was reported that we won easily. No known rebels listed on this mission.

Of interest, note that once again Cable and Magneto both were on this force.

I went on every mission against the rebels but the failed Egypt mission. And I thought that would be construed as a good thing.
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Old 10-20-2008, 12:35 AM   #4328
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So your standard defense costs energy?
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Old 10-20-2008, 12:37 AM   #4329
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Nick, there is nothing particularly illuminating about my energy usage. I have not the time to go into detail with it, as my synthezoid body grows weary.

To summarize, though:

I started with 9. I used 1 on Iron Fist. 3 on Galactus.
Recovered 4, so back to 9. Used 4 against the Sentinels. Used one attacking... someone, I cannot remember who. Attempted to activate a defensive power that night, but was told the action was disallowed. Recovered 4, now I had 8.
Used 4 against the Destroyer. Used one point against... someone. Activated a 1 point defense. Left with 2 at end of day.
Recovered 4, for total of 6. Attempted a special maneuver against Galactus which was disallowed, so only spent 1 point. Probably spent one point on lynch.
Recovered 4, for a total of 8. Committed 2 points to the rebel mission, before the Powers proclaimed that there would be no rebel mission that day, so I retained these 2 points.
I then expended all 8 points on attacking Quicksilver, to devastating (and unfortunate) effect.
Woke the next morning with 4 points. Was awarded 3 extra points by the Powers, for a total of 7. I don't seem to know what happened next, as I know I made an attack each day, but I woke the next morning with 11 points, as though I had not expended any, yet had recovered the full 4 points. I cannot look that up at this time.
Committed one point each to the Galactus mission (I believe I may have been ordered to go?) and to the lynch. Woke with 13.
Commited 5 to the Stryfe mission, and one to lynch. Woke with 11.
I have activated a defense mechanism with some of that, because at the time I feared that Scarlet Witch might betray me at night and strike me down instead of guarding me. I see now that those fears were baseless.

Excellent, information like this is helpful for the loyalists.

I don't see why Cable feels this type of information would be helpful to the rebels.
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Old 10-20-2008, 06:02 AM   #4330
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Sorry guys. You'll need to find someone else to lynch today.

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Old 10-20-2008, 06:23 AM   #4331
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An interesting note. I stirred from my slumber last night as I felt the Shadow King's presence within my mind. Apparently he was not prepared for the subtle differences in my synthezoid brain, and so failed in his attempt to possess me.

This seems to indicate two things:
  1. The Shadow King remains a threat
  2. Assuming that he can make one attempt per day, none of us are possessed, at least for today.
With that, I must go attend to financial matters for several hours.
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Old 10-20-2008, 06:25 AM   #4332
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The night is a long one ... it feels like it has been days since the death of Silver Samurai. Discussions about the traitor Rebel turn intense at times, but all agree to revisit the search in earnest when day breaks.

One of you will not be participating further in that search. Nick Fury is dead, his mind appears shattered beyond belief.
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Old 10-20-2008, 06:44 AM   #4333
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Not sure what I'll be up to today. This is for you, Nick.

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Old 10-20-2008, 06:45 AM   #4334
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That attack can most definitely be moved to Vision, but that's about it.
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:29 AM   #4335
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So it's definitely going to be a Prelate, Punisher?
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:41 AM   #4336
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Use Psionic Communications Detector
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:48 AM   #4337
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What's that do?
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:02 AM   #4338
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What's that do?


ooc: Absolutely nothing while the moderator is busy with RL work stuff! /ooc


I'll share in a bit more information perhaps.
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:12 AM   #4339
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[ooc]My day is screwy, but I'll be on and off most of the morning but gone most of the afternoon. I should make it back well before lynch though[/ooc]

I had two people I trust, I'm down to one and I'm going to vote with him for now. It's one of two prelates I would think so it's 50/50 odds.

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Old 10-20-2008, 08:13 AM   #4340
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RL is the true enemy. Speaking of, I'm off to work now. Back in an hour or so.
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:15 AM   #4341
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Hehe, can I standard attack my schedule?
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:15 AM   #4342
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Gah, what's with all the attacks on Prelates? With such little to go on!
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:20 AM   #4343
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Guys and gals, do I have a story to tell...
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:21 AM   #4344
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Hmmmm. who didn't guard yesterday? Nick Fury (who is dead) and Ghost Rider? Anyone else?

Order Ghostrider to Guard Mr.Fantastic
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:23 AM   #4345
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So my create a power is a Spider Beacon - I essentially can use it to track a player for a night. Well, I finally used it last night to follow Cable.

He left his quarters and went to see Nick Fury during the night.

We've got us a rebel.

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Old 10-20-2008, 08:23 AM   #4346
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SW, I feel that one of the prelates has to be a rebel. I don't *think* Mr. Fantastic can be, that leaves a 50/50 shot. If we get something more compelling, I'm happy to move.
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:23 AM   #4347
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Can someone order someone to guard me?

Pretty please!

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Old 10-20-2008, 08:26 AM   #4348
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So my create a power is a Spider Beacon - I essentially can use it to track a player for a night. Well, I finally used it last night to follow Cable.

He left his quarters and went to see Nick Fury during the night.

We've got us a rebel.

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Thanks Spidey, that is helpful information.. except it seems Cable beat you to the punch and anticipated your reveal (or he anticipated the heat he was getting would end up getting him lynched today)... or you both anticipated it.. whichever the case is.. but looks like he beat us to the punch so we wouldn't be able to vote for him today.

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Sorry guys. You'll need to find someone else to lynch today.

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Old 10-20-2008, 08:26 AM   #4349
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Way to go Spidey! Well, here you go SW, I'm moving...

unvote Magneto

vote Cable
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:29 AM   #4350
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Ahhh, just saw Fantastic's post. I'll hold off until we here more I guess.

revoke attack on Cable
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