Fast Break Pro Basketball 2013 Released! - Page 9

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding · 04-17-2013, 01:33 AM

So far I am twelve seasons in my league, I have yet to win a championship. I have yet to be in a championship series, I have lost four conference finals and I have a commanding lead in most playoff losses. I feel like Stan Van Gundy but thankfully better looking.

yeah826 · 04-17-2013, 01:50 AM

Have you guys ever had a moment where you offered one of your stars a max deal then gets hurt for the year after. Then becomes injury prone

im sad now.

Also I had another player who I over paid for he was my leading scorer on my defense oriented team with 18 ppg on 45% shooting. After paying him 10 mill a year he went down to 12 ppg on 41% shooting. I should have paid attention to the advance stats when it said he was number 5 on EWA.

Groundhog · 04-17-2013, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yeah826

Have you guys ever had a moment where you offered one of your stars a max deal then gets hurt for the year after. Then becomes injury prone

im sad now.

I maxed a FA PG yesterday. 24 year old blue/blue CP3 type of player that would have pushed my squad over the top. Season 1 with me he is injured in pre-season for 2 months, returns, then is injured in mid-April for the rest of the playoffs. Season 2 he gets injured in January for over a month after a few smaller injuries to start the year. He hadn't missed more than 3 games in any of his first 4 seasons prior to signing.

yeah826 · 04-17-2013, 02:36 AM

How is PER calculated in this game??

HeavyReign · 04-17-2013, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yeah826

How is PER calculated in this game??

Barring any errors by me it should be same as in real life.

korme · 04-17-2013, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

Did you ever send these or did you figure it out?

Put it aside for now to do some other things. I'll eventually get it to you.

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 PLAYER DETAILS

 #34 SG Kazimir Lavrin
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 Height:       6-8
 Weight:       237
 DOB:          4/23/1956 (39)
 College:      None
 Hometown:     Arkhangelsk, Russia
 Exp:          18
 
 Attributes:
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 Type       INS JPS FTS 3PS HND PAS ORB DRB PSD PRD STL BLK QKN STR JMP STA
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 Current:    35  40  62  55  43  30  29  34  39  59  26  27  90  47  42  94
 Potential:   D   D   B   C   C   D   D   D   D   C   D   D                

 
 Stat Averages:
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 Season  LGE TEAM   G  GS  MIN  PTS  ORE  REB  AST   TO   A/T  STL  BLK   PF
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   1992  NBL  NZB  74  74 37.2 16.1  1.8  6.7  2.8  1.9  1.53  1.0  0.6  2.2
   1991  NBL  NZB  74  74 37.4 16.5  2.0  7.2  2.8  1.5  1.90  0.8  0.4  2.6
   1990  NBL  NZB  54  54 38.5 17.1  1.8  7.1  3.1  1.7  1.79  0.8  0.4  2.4
   1989  NBL  NZB  74  74 37.6 20.4  2.3  7.1  3.3  1.8  1.90  1.0  0.3  2.2
   1988  NBL  NZB  72  72 38.9 19.6  2.2  7.9  3.6  1.9  1.83  0.8  0.5  2.2
   1987  NBL  NZB  63  63 38.6 20.5  2.4  9.2  3.8  2.1  1.82  1.0  0.4  2.6
   1986  NBL  NZB  61  61 38.9 22.5  2.8  9.3  3.7  1.9  1.94  1.0  0.5  2.3
   1985  NBL  NZB  57  57 38.5 23.3  2.7  9.2  3.2  1.9  1.69  1.0  0.5  2.3
   1984  NBL  NZB  61  61 36.6 21.6  2.2  7.9  4.0  2.0  2.03  0.9  0.3  2.0
   1983  NBL  ADL  67  67 39.8 22.5  2.6  8.5  3.4  2.0  1.72  1.1  0.4  2.5
   1982  NBL  ADL  56  56 39.4 24.1  2.7  8.6  3.0  2.4  1.27  1.2  0.3  3.2
   1981  NBL  ADL  63  63 39.8 22.3  2.3  8.8  2.9  2.4  1.20  0.8  0.4  2.4
   1980  NBL  ADL  68  68 37.8 19.6  2.4  8.0  2.8  2.4  1.16  0.9  0.3  2.9
   1979  NBL  ADL  67  67 38.3 19.8  1.8  6.7  2.6  2.5  1.01  1.1  0.3  2.5
   1978  NBL  ADL  63  63 38.6 20.7  2.3  8.4  3.0  2.9  1.03  0.9  0.3  2.7
   1977  NBL  ADL  67  67 38.7 21.9  2.2  8.7  2.7  2.7  0.98  0.8  0.2  2.4
   1976  NBL  ADL  74  74 39.9 21.9  2.0  7.5  3.1  2.8  1.10  1.1  0.3  2.8
   1975  NBL  ADL  72  72 37.9 20.1  1.8  7.4  2.7  2.5  1.08  0.6  0.3  2.5
 Career          11871187 38.4 20.5  2.2  8.0  3.1  2.2  1.08  0.9  0.4  2.5

 Shooting Averages:
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 Season  FGM  FGA   FG%  FTM  FTA   FT% InsM InsA   In%  JsM  JsA   Js%  3PM  3PA   3P%
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   1992  5.7 12.6  .450  3.0  4.0  .740  2.0  3.3  .617  1.9  4.7  .402  1.8  4.6  .380
   1991  6.0 12.7  .470  3.0  3.9  .757  2.2  3.6  .619  2.1  4.9  .435  1.6  4.1  .381
   1990  6.1 13.4  .459  3.1  4.4  .713  2.3  3.9  .575  2.2  4.9  .453  1.6  4.5  .365
   1989  7.4 15.5  .475  3.7  4.9  .743  3.3  4.9  .660  2.1  5.1  .409  2.0  5.4  .370
   1988  6.8 15.8  .432  4.0  5.8  .696  2.6  4.5  .569  2.3  5.7  .401  2.0  5.6  .352
   1987  7.3 16.4  .444  3.7  5.4  .690  2.8  4.9  .573  2.3  5.7  .399  2.2  5.9  .379
   1986  8.4 16.9  .495  3.4  5.2  .653  3.4  5.6  .613  2.7  6.0  .445  2.3  5.4  .427
   1985  8.4 17.7  .475  4.2  6.4  .654  3.9  7.0  .558  2.3  5.5  .408  2.2  5.2  .434
   1984  8.2 17.4  .474  1.9  3.0  .650  2.0  2.8  .725  3.0  6.9  .430  3.2  7.6  .422
   1983  8.6 18.6  .462  2.3  3.4  .671  2.0  2.9  .707  3.5  7.6  .462  3.1  8.1  .376
   1982  8.4 16.5  .505  4.9  7.3  .673  4.4  7.1  .621  1.5  4.1  .362  2.5  5.3  .463
   1981  7.7 16.2  .474  5.0  7.4  .677  4.2  6.6  .635  1.6  4.6  .352  1.9  5.1  .374
   1980  6.6 14.8  .447  4.6  6.2  .745  3.5  5.8  .599  1.3  4.2  .313  1.8  4.7  .378
   1979  7.0 15.2  .459  4.4  6.5  .675  4.0  6.3  .639  1.6  4.5  .346  1.4  4.4  .315
   1978  7.1 15.5  .457  4.9  6.4  .774  3.6  6.1  .594  1.9  4.8  .389  1.6  4.6  .346
   1977  7.6 17.5  .432  4.7  6.4  .735  3.6  6.7  .534  2.1  5.2  .394  2.0  5.7  .348
   1976  7.5 16.4  .460  5.1  6.9  .745  3.7  6.4  .582  2.0  4.9  .419  1.8  5.1  .344
   1975  7.1 15.3  .466  4.1  5.6  .724  3.4  5.7  .599  1.9  4.7  .407  1.8  4.9  .368
 Career  7.3 15.8  .463  3.9  5.5  .709  3.1  5.2  .606  2.1  5.2  .406  2.0  5.3  .379
 
 Stat Totals:
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 Season  LGE TEAM   G  GS   MIN   PTS  OREB   REB   AST    TO   STL   BLK    PF  +/-
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   1992  NBL  NZB  74  74  2754  1191   132   499   209   137    71    42   160  214
   1991  NBL  NZB  74  74  2769  1220   148   531   205   108    62    28   189  204
   1990  NBL  NZB  54  54  2077   922    97   382   168    94    44    19   130  182
   1989  NBL  NZB  74  74  2782  1513   168   526   247   130    74    24   165  320
   1988  NBL  NZB  72  72  2798  1412   160   572   256   140    60    35   156  210
   1987  NBL  NZB  63  63  2431  1292   149   577   239   131    60    23   162  466
   1986  NBL  NZB  61  61  2375  1371   173   570   223   115    61    30   142  369
   1985  NBL  NZB  57  57  2192  1326   153   522   182   108    58    26   132  315
   1984  NBL  NZB  61  61  2232  1317   134   480   242   119    57    16   124  916
   1983  NBL  ADL  67  67  2665  1506   177   568   227   132    74    27   165 -156
   1982  NBL  ADL  56  56  2205  1348   149   482   170   134    69    16   178  181
   1981  NBL  ADL  63  63  2505  1405   147   554   182   152    51    25   154  352
   1980  NBL  ADL  68  68  2569  1335   161   545   189   163    61    17   194  200
   1979  NBL  ADL  67  67  2564  1324   123   448   172   170    73    20   166  -30
   1978  NBL  ADL  63  63  2429  1301   145   529   186   180    55    19   169  416
   1977  NBL  ADL  67  67  2595  1464   148   582   178   181    56    13   159 -176
   1976  NBL  ADL  74  74  2953  1624   147   553   229   208    79    20   206  102
   1975  NBL  ADL  72  72  2727  1447   131   533   195   180    43    19   180  264
 Career          11871187 45622 24318  2642  9453  3699  2582  1108   419  2931 4349

 Shooting Totals
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 Season   FGM   FGA   FTM   FTA   3PM   3PA
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   1992   421   936   219   296   130   342
   1991   441   938   221   292   117   307
   1990   332   723   169   237    89   244
   1989   546  1149   272   366   149   403
   1988   491  1137   288   414   142   403
   1987   459  1034   234   339   140   369
   1986   511  1033   209   320   140   328
   1985   480  1011   238   364   128   295
   1984   502  1059   117   180   196   465
   1983   575  1245   151   225   205   545
   1982   468   926   274   407   138   298
   1981   484  1022   317   468   120   321
   1980   449  1005   316   424   121   320
   1979   468  1020   295   437    93   295
   1978   445   974   311   402   100   289
   1977   508  1175   316   430   132   379
   1976   557  1212   380   510   130   378
   1975   512  1099   294   406   129   351
 Career  8649 18698  4621  6517  2399  6332
 
 Efficiency:
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 Season  LGE TEAM   G   TS%  PPS  AST   TO  USG  ORR  DRR   RR  PER     VA   EWA   +/-  OEFF  DEFF
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   1992  NBL  NZB  74  .559 1.27 14.8  9.7 18.6  5.6 15.5 10.5 19.0  349.3  11.6   2.9 102.5  98.2
   1991  NBL  NZB  74  .572 1.30 14.9  7.8 18.0  6.4 15.5 11.1 19.9  388.3  12.9   2.8 102.4  98.9
   1990  NBL  NZB  54  .557 1.28 15.4  8.6 18.9  5.5 15.9 10.8 19.1  266.0   8.9   3.4 104.3 100.1
   1989  NBL  NZB  74  .577 1.32 14.6  7.7 22.0  6.9 14.8 10.9 23.6  545.4  18.2   4.3 104.2  97.9
   1988  NBL  NZB  72  .535 1.24 14.9  8.2 22.1  6.4 16.0 11.2 21.0  437.4  14.6   2.9 100.7  97.1
   1987  NBL  NZB  63  .546 1.25 15.4  8.4 23.2  7.0 18.2 12.9 22.4  431.4  14.4   7.4 103.4  93.7
   1986  NBL  NZB  61  .584 1.33 14.7  7.6 23.4  8.0 17.1 12.7 25.5  530.4  17.7   6.0 104.3  96.5
   1985  NBL  NZB  57  .566 1.31 12.5  7.4 24.6  7.6 17.7 12.8 26.1  509.2  17.0   5.5 103.4  96.3
   1984  NBL  NZB  61  .578 1.24 16.1  7.9 23.4  6.5 15.5 11.2 26.3  527.7  17.6  15.0 110.6  91.1
   1983  NBL  ADL  67  .560 1.21 13.3  7.8 24.0  7.2 17.5 12.1 23.6  522.9  17.4  -2.3  99.2 102.0
   1982  NBL  ADL  56  .610 1.46 12.1  9.5 23.8  8.0 17.0 12.6 26.5  527.9  17.6   3.2 100.5  96.3
   1981  NBL  ADL  63  .572 1.37 11.7  9.7 23.7  6.9 17.2 12.4 22.6  450.5  15.0   5.6 103.9  96.7
   1980  NBL  ADL  68  .560 1.33 12.2 10.6 23.1  7.4 16.9 12.2 20.2  373.8  12.5   2.9 102.3  97.8
   1979  NBL  ADL  67  .546 1.30 11.1 10.9 23.6  5.4 14.9 10.1 18.9  322.9  10.8  -0.4  96.9  97.0
   1978  NBL  ADL  63  .565 1.34 12.3 11.9 23.8  7.3 17.2 12.5 21.1  384.3  12.8   6.6 101.4  92.7
   1977  NBL  ADL  67  .537 1.25 10.3 10.5 26.0  6.2 19.3 12.6 19.5  348.4  11.6  -2.6  95.1  98.2
   1976  NBL  ADL  74  .565 1.34 12.2 11.1 23.9  5.7 16.1 10.8 21.3  475.0  15.8   1.4  98.4  96.7
   1975  NBL  ADL  72  .567 1.32 11.8 10.9 22.8  5.6 16.8 11.3 20.4  401.1  13.4   3.7 100.0  95.3
 Career          1187  .564 1.30 13.3  9.3 22.7  6.6 16.6 11.7 21.9 7791.8 259.7   3.7 101.7  96.8
 
 Playoff Averages:
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 Season  LGE TEAM   G  GS  MIN  PTS  ORE  REB  AST   TO   A/T  STL  BLK   PF
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   1991  NBL  NZB   4   4 39.3 14.5  2.0  6.8  2.0  1.8  1.14  1.0  0.5  2.5
   1986  NBL  NZB   3   3 40.0 15.7  1.7  8.3  3.7  2.7  1.38  0.3  0.3  3.0
   1985  NBL  NZB   1   1 38.0 12.0  1.0  7.0  2.0  1.0  2.00  2.0  1.0  1.0
   1984  NBL  NZB   1   0  1.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  1.0  0.00  0.0  0.0  0.0
   1978  NBL  ADL   9   9 36.7 19.3  1.8  6.2  2.7  2.0  1.33  0.7  0.1  2.9
 Career          11871187 38.4 20.5  2.2  8.0  3.1  2.2  1.33  0.9  0.4  2.5

 Playoff Shooting Averages:
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 Season  FGM  FGA   FG%  FTM  FTA   FT% InsM InsA   In%  JsM  JsA   Js%  3PM  3PA   3P%
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   1991  5.8 15.5  .371  1.0  3.0  .333  1.8  3.3  .538  2.0  7.0  .286  2.0  5.3  .381
   1986  6.7 17.3  .385  1.0  2.7  .375  3.7  6.0  .611  1.7  6.7  .250  1.3  4.7  .286
   1985  5.0 21.0  .238  1.0  2.0  .500  1.0  5.0  .200  3.0 11.0  .273  1.0  5.0  .200
   1984  0.0  0.0  .000  0.0  0.0  .000  0.0  0.0  .000  0.0  0.0  .000  0.0  0.0  .000
   1978  6.7 15.2  .438  4.6  6.6  .695  3.2  6.0  .537  2.0  5.1  .391  1.4  4.1  .351
 Career  7.3 15.8  .463  3.9  5.5  .709  3.1  5.2  .606  2.1  5.2  .406  2.0  5.3  .379
 
 Playoff Totals:
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 Season  LGE TEAM   G  GS   MIN   PTS  OREB   REB   AST    TO   STL   BLK    PF  +/-
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   1991  NBL  NZB   4   4   157    58     8    27     8     7     4     2    10  -54
   1986  NBL  NZB   3   3   120    47     5    25    11     8     1     1     9  -31
   1985  NBL  NZB   1   1    38    12     1     7     2     1     2     1     1  -21
   1984  NBL  NZB   1   0     1     0     0     0     0     1     0     0     0   -3
   1978  NBL  ADL   9   9   330   174    16    56    24    18     6     1    26   12
 Career          11871187 45622 24318  2642  9453  3699  2582  1108   419  2931 4349

 Playoff Shooting Totals
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 Season   FGM   FGA   FTM   FTA   3PM   3PA
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   1991    23    62     4    12     8    21
   1986    20    52     3     8     4    14
   1985     5    21     1     2     1     5
   1984     0     0     0     0     0     0
   1978    60   137    41    59    13    37
 Career  8649 18698  4621  6517  2399  6332
 
 Playoff Efficiency:
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 Season  LGE TEAM   G   TS%  PPS  AST   TO  USG  ORR  DRR   RR  PER     VA   EWA   +/-  OEFF  DEFF
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   1991  NBL  NZB   4  .433 0.94  9.8  8.5 20.7  4.9 13.6  8.9  7.3   -7.5  -0.3 -13.5  85.8 106.1
   1986  NBL  NZB   3  .429 0.90 14.7 10.7 23.3  4.5 19.4 11.6  8.2   -4.2  -0.1 -10.3  92.9 105.8
   1985  NBL  NZB   1  .273 0.57  8.0  4.0 24.4  2.3 15.8  8.5  4.6   -3.3  -0.1 -21.0  82.9 109.9
   1984  NBL  NZB   1  .000 0.00  0.0100.0 40.0  0.0  0.0  0.0-37.2   -0.7   0.0  -3.0  66.7 250.0
   1978  NBL  ADL   9  .534 1.27 11.7  8.8 22.7  5.4 13.2  9.3 13.4   14.4   0.5   1.3 100.4  98.5
 Career          1187  .564 1.30 13.3  9.3 22.5  4.9 14.5  9.5 10.3   -1.5   0.0   3.7 101.7  96.8
 
 Career Highs:
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 Type      Pts OReb  Reb  Ast  Stl  Blk   TO  FGM  FGA  FTM  FTA  3PM  3PA
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 Playoff    25    4   10    7    2    1    5    9   21   11   14    4    9
 Career     48    9   18   11    5    3    8   17   28   16   22    8   17
 
 Awards & Achievements:
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 Season   Award
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 Total    Player of the Game: 390
 Total    Player of the Week: 18
 Total    Player of the Month: 2
 Total    All-Star Appearances: 15
 Total    All-League Second Team : 3
 Total    All-League Third Team : 3
 1992     Inducted to the NBL Hall of Fame
 1992     NBL All-Defensive Second Team
 1992     NBL All-League Second Team
 1992     NBL All-Star
 1991     NBL All-Defensive Second Team
 1991     NBL All-League Second Team
 1991     NBL All-Star
 1990     NBL All-Star
 1989     NBL All-Defensive Second Team
 1989     NBL All-League Second Team
 1989     NBL All-Star
 1988     NBL All-Defensive First Team
 1988     NBL All-League Third Team
 1988     NBL All-Star
 1987     NBL All-Defensive First Team
 1987     NBL All-Star
 1986     NBL All-Defensive First Team
 1986     NBL All-Star
 1985     NBL All-Star
 1984     NBL All-Star
 1984     NBL 3-Point Shootout Champion
 1983     NBL All-Defensive Second Team
 1983     NBL All-Star
 1980     NBL All-Star
 1978     NBL All-Star
 1977     NBL All-League Third Team
 1977     NBL All-Star
 1976     NBL All-League Third Team
 1976     NBL All-Star
 1976     NBL Rookie Game MVP
 1976     NBL Rookie Game Participant
 1975     NBL All-Rookie Second Team
 1975     NBL All-Star
 1975     NBL Rookie Game Participant

korme · 04-17-2013, 02:19 PM

If a player is a 90 in fouling, does that mean he is good at avoiding fouls or easily gets whistled?

HeavyReign · 04-17-2013, 02:48 PM

90 means they foul less.

nilodor · 04-17-2013, 03:00 PM

I'm having a problem. Steph Curry asked me for an extension, however his demands are far beyond the max that I am able to offer.

Marmel · 04-17-2013, 03:10 PM

My guess would be that your owner has set a budget below the salary cap.

HeavyReign · 04-17-2013, 03:20 PM

That is what has happened. Whether that should happen is the other question. I've debated whether to leave it like that or require at least the salary cap for higher level leagues.

Marmel · 04-17-2013, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

That is what has happened. Whether that should happen is the other question. I've debated whether to leave it like that or require at least the salary cap for higher level leagues.

I'm not a huge fan, probably because I didn't really realize this in one of the games I started. I never planned for this and it ruined all my future plans. I ended up scrapping that game because of it.

Having said that, it could provide a real challenge. Could it be an option?

korme · 04-17-2013, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

That is what has happened. Whether that should happen is the other question. I've debated whether to leave it like that or require at least the salary cap for higher level leagues.

While I like the idea in theory, I don't remember a scenario in which a player left a team because it refused to/couldn't offer him an extension when they had cap space.

Young Drachma · 04-17-2013, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by korme

While I like the idea in theory, I don't remember a scenario in which a player left a team because it refused to/couldn't offer him an extension when they had cap space.

+1

korme · 04-17-2013, 03:39 PM

After simming a couple decades worth of seasons, I just noticed almost every single team's loyalty is 100. The ones that aren't at 100 are recent expansion teams. I don't know how quickly it escalated, tho. I'll keep an eye on the outliers.

nilodor · 04-17-2013, 03:54 PM

Bah, apparently I have Robert Sarver as an owner...

28 million in profit so far this season and he wants to break up the team!

HeavyReign · 04-17-2013, 04:02 PM

Btw you can edit your budget in the edit team section of the league editor. The next build will require a minimum budget at the salary cap for max prestige leagues. I also made a tweak in the budget calculations outside of that.

Marmel · 04-17-2013, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nilodor

Bah, apparently I have Robert Sarver as an owner...

28 million in profit so far this season and he wants to break up the team!

Damn, Joseph Anderson is a dick!

On a somewhat related note, when and how do you submit a new stadium proposal? And when can you try to move your team?

murrayyyyy · 04-17-2013, 04:14 PM

With the last update installed I have suddenly lost coach of the year awards being given out. About to leave to go somewhere but you can see it at the end of printing awards in my running thread.

Trying to rewrite NBA history...

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding · 04-17-2013, 05:24 PM

Anybody have any tips on training camp? I seem to have players regress earlier than I would expect. What do you think is the minimum number you need to train someone in a particular skill to prevent regression?

nZane · 04-17-2013, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

You have unused exceptions which take up cap space if you are below the cap.

Makes perfect sense. Shows how much I follow the NBA nowadays!

Random suggestion: when viewing free agents (and expansion draft players), would it be possible to add previous year stats as a Sort By option? Just the basics (games played, started, minutes per game, points, etc) would be more than enough.

Oh, and great work on the game! I've been playing it pretty much nonstop since it came out and I couldn't give a crap about the current-day NBA, so kudos on that!

HeavyReign · 04-17-2013, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

With the last update installed I have suddenly lost coach of the year awards being given out. About to leave to go somewhere but you can see it at the end of printing awards in my running thread.

Trying to rewrite NBA history...

This should be fixed now.

HeavyReign · 04-17-2013, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmel

On a somewhat related note, when and how do you submit a new stadium proposal? And when can you try to move your team?

You should be able to do this up to the end of the regular season. Previously your current arena needed to be 20 years old but I just changed it to as long as you aren't making payments on the previous arena which basically just means you won't have to wait at the start of a new game.

You can try and move once you've had a failed arena proposal in your current city.

murrayyyyy · 04-17-2013, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

This should be fixed now.

In the next update or the one that v3.0.6? When I installed 6 is when it started.

HeavyReign · 04-17-2013, 08:12 PM

3.0.7

bryce · 04-17-2013, 08:25 PM

If I want to uninstall and reinstall (on the same machine), is there any trick with the e-license or am I ok to have at it?

thx

sovereignstar v2 · 04-17-2013, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryce

If I want to uninstall and reinstall (on the same machine), is there any trick with the e-license or am I ok to have at it?

thx

You don't have to worry about the license when uninstalling.

Young Drachma · 04-17-2013, 09:22 PM

HR, whatever you did for the Coach of the Year calculation you need to apply to the GM of the Year calculation too. Just ran a whole season and had the GM of an 18-24 non-playoff team win GM of the year. Just didn't really make any sense.

(Not just saying this because I manage to take an expansion team to the post-season in their 1st year...)

HeavyReign · 04-17-2013, 10:22 PM

Edit: bah don't download that.

korme · 04-17-2013, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

With the last update installed I have suddenly lost coach of the year awards being given out. About to leave to go somewhere but you can see it at the end of printing awards in my running thread.

Trying to rewrite NBA history...

murr, I just started reading this. It's hilarious.

Quote:

The 1952 draft rolls around and have the #7 pick in a draft with no real talent. We draft shooting guard John Marrufo from UTEP. He’s so good there is no picture of him on the internet to post.

Quote:

In 1593 we lost the Indianapolis Olympians because our playoff victory was so crushing.

That's as far as I've gotten so far but keep up the good work!

yeah826 · 04-17-2013, 11:38 PM

How do i set up ABA league so that I can get all the players to show up on their teams while running concurently with NBA

murrayyyyy · 04-17-2013, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by korme

murr, I just started reading this. It's hilarious.

That's as far as I've gotten so far but keep up the good work!

I really figured I would have been fired by now but my GM has never hit the bad status yet. Wondering if I can make it to 2000 now.

HeavyReign · 04-17-2013, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yeah826

How do i set up ABA league so that I can get all the players to show up on their teams while running concurently with NBA

Just make sure the league is set to use the USBA imports. That will make sure anyone who started out in that league does for you as well. Anyone who is already active in the career won't be automatically switch teams or anything.

HeavyReign · 04-18-2013, 06:45 AM

******************************************************************************************************************
Version 3.0.7: http://www.fbbgames.com/FBPB3Update307.exe
******************************************************************************************************************
Fixes:
*Fixed a bug that made draft pick trade values lower during the expansion draft.
*Fixed a bug that made it possible for a team to have an extra set of draft picks if they previously played in a different league.
*Fixed error 9 that could occur at the end of the DLG draft after clicking next human.
*Progress bar on fast sim screen should be full when simming is complete.
*Fixed sorting for rings when active players were included in the sort.
*Finances screen will no longer require regular tickets to be at least $1.00.
*Fixed coach of the year not being awarded when a large number of teams were active.
*Fixed more experienced players appearing on the rookie team in the rookie game.
*Fixed unusual selections in dispersal and expansion drafts when better players are available.

Changes:
*Fast sim will now stop just before the start of the offseason of the target season.
*References to historical league abbreviations will use the name found in the corresponding historical csv file.
*Reduced expected height by position in historical leagues.
*Fictional players in historical leagues will have reduced height
*Minimum team budget depends on league prestige. Will be no lower than salary cap for highest prestige.
*Changed eligibility for building a new arena to not making a payment on a previous arena.
*Transactions sections will say resigned if a player signs with his previous team.
*Human teams will be highlighted in the power poll.
*Double-clicking the standings on the hot seat screen will take you to the roster of the clicked team.
*Updated GM of the year award to focus more on team results as well.

Engine Tweaks:
*Players who are bad at 3s should shoot less 3s
*The top players should have lower 3p%
*Recalculated historical modifiers to produce more realistic stats in past seasons.

Young Drachma · 04-18-2013, 10:25 AM

Best in the business, that's you.

Marmel · 04-18-2013, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young Drachma

Best in the business, that's you.

7 patches in about 8 days? Yes, that is HR.

spleen1015 · 04-18-2013, 10:35 AM

At some point I will have the time to give this game a go.

korme · 04-18-2013, 10:58 AM

HR, how difficult would it be to add a shop player around button?

Maybe not even have it tell you exactly what you could get for a guy, but just provide a list of teams willing to negotiate or something.

muns · 04-18-2013, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by korme

HR, how difficult would it be to add a shop player around button?

Maybe not even have it tell you exactly what you could get for a guy, but just provide a list of teams willing to negotiate or something.

This or something of that nature is on the to do list. People were asking for trade blocks or your suggestion during beta so its on the radar.

Young Drachma · 04-18-2013, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by korme

HR, how difficult would it be to add a shop player around button?

Maybe not even have it tell you exactly what you could get for a guy, but just provide a list of teams willing to negotiate or something.

Was thinking this last night while orchestrating a 4-team deal. Would be handy for sure.

Marmel · 04-18-2013, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by korme

HR, how difficult would it be to add a shop player around button?

Maybe not even have it tell you exactly what you could get for a guy, but just provide a list of teams willing to negotiate or something.

That is a nice idea korme. It would also be nice to have some kind of indicator on the trade screen to show who is getting the better or a proposed deal and by how much before you even submit the trade to see the AI's response. I think the other pro basketball game does this and it is a nice feature. If I recall correctly, they have either 1 or two arrows pointing in one team's direction to measure the balance of the trade, or an equal sign to tell you it is pretty fair. Sometimes the fair trades still don't go through and you have to throw in a 2nd rounder or something, but as a general indicator, it is nice to know if you are 2 arrows away you better come up with a whole new idea, but if you are 1 arrow away, you can still tweak it.

Also, if you want to borrow another idea, at the end of each days sim you see a summary of the top 10 or so scorers, rebounders, etc of the day. there seems to be plenty of room on the screen where you sim games.

Young Drachma · 04-18-2013, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmel

That is a nice idea korme. It would also be nice to have some kind of indicator on the trade screen to show who is getting the better or a proposed deal and by how much before you even submit the trade to see the AI's response. I think the other pro basketball game does this and it is a nice feature. If I recall correctly, they have either 1 or two arrows pointing in one team's direction to measure the balance of the trade, or an equal sign to tell you it is pretty fair. Sometimes the fair trades still don't go through and you have to throw in a 2nd rounder or something, but as a general indicator, it is nice to know if you are 2 arrows away you better come up with a whole new idea, but if you are 1 arrow away, you can still tweak it.

Also, if you want to borrow another idea, at the end of each days sim you see a summary of the top 10 or so scorers, rebounders, etc of the day. there seems to be plenty of room on the screen where you sim games.

The game sort of already does this with "significantly" and "a little bit more" and so forth. It requires more tinkering, in theory, but I found it pretty realistic last night spending over an hour trying to pull a deal off and in contrast to other text sims, I found it challenging with no tweaks to manage to pull off a deal.

muns · 04-18-2013, 11:45 AM

If people are having a hard time finding guys that match up salary wise there is a work around.

Go to tools
then league editor
Sort by players
then in the overview drop down find contract.

That way you can find guys who are close matches to the guys you want to get rid of

korme · 04-18-2013, 11:48 AM

Can anyone test 1.0.7 and see if All-Defense totals are showing up under achievements yet?

korme · 04-18-2013, 11:58 AM

Cosmetic request:

On the trade screen during the offseason/draft, is it possible to list the pick # for the current draft order? So for instance, if I have two orange Rd 1 Pick for the current year, it could say Rd 1 Pick (14) and Rd 1 Pick (19) just so I don't confuse myself.

yeah826 · 04-18-2013, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by korme

Can anyone test 1.0.7 and see if All-Defense totals are showing up under achievements yet?

Its showing up

murrayyyyy · 04-18-2013, 02:38 PM

have a slight problem in my Hawks historical league. Looked up the top scorers of all time and it listed the following for my team.

Code:

HAWKS PLAYER CAREER RECORDS: POINTS

   #  Pos Player               Season  Record
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   1   C  Wilt Chamberlain       1975   21188
   2   SF Elgin Baylor           1967   12174
   3   C  Larry Foust            1962   11490

but when I look at NBA records the top scorers of all time are...

Code:

All All Positions Results

 Name                     Pos  Retired  Age  Exp  Points  Rebounds  Assists  Steals  Blocks  Rings
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Bob Pettit                PF     1970   37   17   32781      9670     2347    1032     475      8
 Walt Bellamy              PF     1974   34   13   21572      7067     1871     766     289      1
 Mauricio Durán            PF        -   31   10   18913      7305     1724    1028    1695      8
 Willis Reed               PF        -   34   12   18471      7276     1438     427     991      0
 Bill Russell               C     1968   34   13   18431     11219     2408     489    3943      1
 Jerry Lucas               SF        -   36   13   18330      9918     2193     468     464      0
 John Havlicek             SG     1974   34   12   18040      4276     2419     786     135      1
 Lou Hudson                SG        -   31   10   17949      4307     2109    1260     167      2
 Neil Johnston             SF     1963   34   13   17593      5672     1837     614     155      0

HeavyReign · 04-18-2013, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

have a slight problem in my Hawks historical league. Looked up the top scorers of all time and it listed the following for my team.

Did you change your save name at any point?

korme · 04-18-2013, 04:01 PM

In light of the stories with Durant/Anthony, is scoring title worthy of an achievement? Media usually makes mention of all of Jordan's scoring titles when listing his accomplishments.

korme · 04-18-2013, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

******************************************************************************************************************
Version 3.0.7: http://www.fbbgames.com/FBPB3Update307.exe
******************************************************************************************************************
*Recalculated historical modifiers to produce more realistic stats in past seasons.

How far are you looking to improve this? A fastsim with .0.7 is still getting Wilt "pedestrian" #s:

Code:

 PLAYER DETAILS

 #55 C Wilt Chamberlain - 76ers
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Height:       7-1
 Weight:       303
 DOB:          8/21/1936 (28)
 College:      Kansas
 Exp:          6
 
 Attributes:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Type       INS JPS FTS 3PS HND PAS ORB DRB PSD PRD STL BLK QKN STR JMP STA
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Current:    93  22  28   0  37  31  89  84  54  27  11  57  25  93  92  91
 Potential:   A   D   D   F   D   C   A   A   C   D   F   C                

 Health:      Good                                           
 Status:      Active Roster                                  
 Salary:      $0                                             
 Length:      0                                              
 
 Stat Averages:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Season  LGE TEAM   G  GS  MIN  PTS  ORE  REB  AST   TO   A/T  STL  BLK   PF
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   1964  NBA  PHI  60  60 33.9 25.2  3.1 11.4  2.4  3.5  0.69  0.5  1.8  3.3
   1963  NBA  PHI  80  80 33.9 24.7  3.6 11.9  2.2  3.9  0.58  0.6  2.0  3.1
   1962  NBA  SYR  80  80 34.0 26.3  3.5 12.8  2.6  3.8  0.69  0.5  1.9  3.3
   1961  NBA  SYR  77  77 32.8 28.8  4.0 13.4  2.5  4.1  0.60  0.5  1.8  3.3
   1960  NBA  SYR  80  80 31.3 31.4  4.1 13.9  1.6  4.1  0.40  0.4  2.2  3.4
   1959  NBA  SYR  52  52 29.8 30.9  4.0 12.0  1.5  3.9  0.40  0.3  2.0  3.7
 Career           429 429 32.7 27.8  3.7 12.6  2.2  3.9  0.40  0.5  2.0  3.3

Also think FPG in historical sims are still too high. I haven't noticed it in fictional fast sim (only have done one and didn't look very hard), but it seems all of the stars never get 38-42 MPG because they are plagued by foul trouble.

Code:

 PLAYER DETAILS

 #32 PF Bob Pettit - Pistons
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Height:       6-9
 Weight:       253
 DOB:          12/12/1932 (32)
 College:      Louisiana State
 Exp:          11
 
 Attributes:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Type       INS JPS FTS 3PS HND PAS ORB DRB PSD PRD STL BLK QKN STR JMP STA
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Current:    61  22  57   0  35  22  64  47  20  31  18  38  51  71  87  86
 Potential:   B   D   B   F   D   D   B   C   D   D   F   D                

 Health:      Good                                           
 Status:      Active Roster                                  
 Salary:      $4,132                                         
 Length:      2                                              
 
 Stat Averages:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Season  LGE TEAM   G  GS  MIN  PTS  ORE  REB  AST   TO   A/T  STL  BLK   PF
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   1964  NBA  DET  80  80 30.1 23.7  3.3  9.4  1.6  2.7  0.58  0.5  0.7  3.5
   1963  NBA  DET  75  74 28.4 23.5  2.7  8.6  1.5  3.1  0.49  0.6  0.6  3.4
   1962  NBA  DET  77  77 29.0 26.5  3.1  8.6  1.9  3.2  0.62  0.5  0.7  3.9
   1961  NBA  DET  80  80 32.5 32.4  3.5 10.9  2.3  3.8  0.61  0.7  0.9  3.6
   1960  NBA  DET  80  80 31.2 30.5  3.7 11.5  2.0  4.0  0.49  0.7  0.9  3.6
   1959  NBA  DET  69  69 33.8 31.3  3.5 11.6  2.2  3.8  0.58  0.7  0.8  3.6
   1958  NBA  DET  72  72 34.8 31.0  3.7 11.1  2.1  4.3  0.49  0.8  0.7  3.9
   1957  NBA  DET  70  70 34.0 29.3  4.0 11.9  1.9  3.9  0.47  0.5  0.6  4.1
   1956  NBA  FTW  72  72 33.1 26.8  3.8 10.3  1.7  3.6  0.47  0.5  0.9  3.9
   1955  NBA  FTW  72  72 31.6 23.6  3.1  8.9  1.8  3.0  0.58  0.5  0.7  3.7
   1954  NBA  FTW  72  72 33.3 25.9  3.7  9.9  1.6  3.2  0.49  0.4  0.7  3.9
 Career           819 818 31.9 27.7  3.4 10.2  1.9  3.5  0.49  0.6  0.7  3.7

04-17-2013, 02:48 PM	#408
HeavyReign Fast Break Basketball Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Spokane, WA	90 means they foul less. __________________ Brian Nichols [email protected] Fast Break Basketball / Fast Break Basketball: SE / Season Ticket Basketball 2003 / Fast Break College Basketball / Fast Break College Basketball 2010 / Fast Break Pro Basketball 3 http://www.fbbgames.com/forum/

04-17-2013, 03:10 PM	#410
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	My guess would be that your owner has set a budget below the salary cap. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

04-17-2013, 03:20 PM	#411
HeavyReign Fast Break Basketball Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Spokane, WA	That is what has happened. Whether that should happen is the other question. I've debated whether to leave it like that or require at least the salary cap for higher level leagues. __________________ Brian Nichols [email protected] Fast Break Basketball / Fast Break Basketball: SE / Season Ticket Basketball 2003 / Fast Break College Basketball / Fast Break College Basketball 2010 / Fast Break Pro Basketball 3 http://www.fbbgames.com/forum/

04-17-2013, 03:39 PM	#415
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	After simming a couple decades worth of seasons, I just noticed almost every single team's loyalty is 100. The ones that aren't at 100 are recent expansion teams. I don't know how quickly it escalated, tho. I'll keep an eye on the outliers. Last edited by korme : 04-17-2013 at 03:40 PM.

04-17-2013, 10:22 PM	#429
HeavyReign Fast Break Basketball Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Spokane, WA	Edit: bah don't download that. __________________ Brian Nichols [email protected] Fast Break Basketball / Fast Break Basketball: SE / Season Ticket Basketball 2003 / Fast Break College Basketball / Fast Break College Basketball 2010 / Fast Break Pro Basketball 3 http://www.fbbgames.com/forum/ Last edited by HeavyReign : 04-17-2013 at 10:30 PM.

04-17-2013, 01:33 AM	#401
LastWhiteSoxFanStanding College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003	So far I am twelve seasons in my league, I have yet to win a championship. I have yet to be in a championship series, I have lost four conference finals and I have a commanding lead in most playoff losses. I feel like Stan Van Gundy but thankfully better looking.

04-17-2013, 01:50 AM	#402
yeah826 High School JV Join Date: Sep 2010	Have you guys ever had a moment where you offered one of your stars a max deal then gets hurt for the year after. Then becomes injury prone im sad now. Also I had another player who I over paid for he was my leading scorer on my defense oriented team with 18 ppg on 45% shooting. After paying him 10 mill a year he went down to 12 ppg on 41% shooting. I should have paid attention to the advance stats when it said he was number 5 on EWA.

04-17-2013, 02:36 AM	#404
yeah826 High School JV Join Date: Sep 2010	How is PER calculated in this game??

04-17-2013, 02:19 PM	#407
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	If a player is a 90 in fouling, does that mean he is good at avoiding fouls or easily gets whistled?

04-17-2013, 03:00 PM	#409
nilodor College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: calgary, AB	I'm having a problem. Steph Curry asked me for an extension, however his demands are far beyond the max that I am able to offer.

04-17-2013, 03:54 PM	#416
nilodor College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: calgary, AB	Bah, apparently I have Robert Sarver as an owner... 28 million in profit so far this season and he wants to break up the team!

04-17-2013, 04:02 PM	#417
HeavyReign Fast Break Basketball Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Spokane, WA	Btw you can edit your budget in the edit team section of the league editor. The next build will require a minimum budget at the salary cap for max prestige leagues. I also made a tweak in the budget calculations outside of that.

04-17-2013, 04:14 PM	#419
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	With the last update installed I have suddenly lost coach of the year awards being given out. About to leave to go somewhere but you can see it at the end of printing awards in my running thread. Trying to rewrite NBA history...

04-17-2013, 05:24 PM	#420
LastWhiteSoxFanStanding College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003	Anybody have any tips on training camp? I seem to have players regress earlier than I would expect. What do you think is the minimum number you need to train someone in a particular skill to prevent regression?

04-17-2013, 08:12 PM	#425
HeavyReign Fast Break Basketball Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Spokane, WA	3.0.7

04-17-2013, 08:25 PM	#426
bryce High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dallas, TX	If I want to uninstall and reinstall (on the same machine), is there any trick with the e-license or am I ok to have at it? thx

04-17-2013, 09:22 PM	#428
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	HR, whatever you did for the Coach of the Year calculation you need to apply to the GM of the Year calculation too. Just ran a whole season and had the GM of an 18-24 non-playoff team win GM of the year. Just didn't really make any sense. (Not just saying this because I manage to take an expansion team to the post-season in their 1st year...)

04-17-2013, 11:38 PM	#431
yeah826 High School JV Join Date: Sep 2010	How do i set up ABA league so that I can get all the players to show up on their teams while running concurently with NBA

04-18-2013, 06:45 AM	#434
HeavyReign Fast Break Basketball Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Spokane, WA	**************************************************************************************************************** Version 3.0.7: http://www.fbbgames.com/FBPB3Update307.exe **************************************************************************************************************** Fixes: Fixed a bug that made draft pick trade values lower during the expansion draft. Fixed a bug that made it possible for a team to have an extra set of draft picks if they previously played in a different league. Fixed error 9 that could occur at the end of the DLG draft after clicking next human. Progress bar on fast sim screen should be full when simming is complete. Fixed sorting for rings when active players were included in the sort. Finances screen will no longer require regular tickets to be at least $1.00. Fixed coach of the year not being awarded when a large number of teams were active. Fixed more experienced players appearing on the rookie team in the rookie game. Fixed unusual selections in dispersal and expansion drafts when better players are available. Changes: Fast sim will now stop just before the start of the offseason of the target season. References to historical league abbreviations will use the name found in the corresponding historical csv file. Reduced expected height by position in historical leagues. Fictional players in historical leagues will have reduced height Minimum team budget depends on league prestige. Will be no lower than salary cap for highest prestige. Changed eligibility for building a new arena to not making a payment on a previous arena. Transactions sections will say resigned if a player signs with his previous team. Human teams will be highlighted in the power poll. Double-clicking the standings on the hot seat screen will take you to the roster of the clicked team. Updated GM of the year award to focus more on team results as well. Engine Tweaks: Players who are bad at 3s should shoot less 3s The top players should have lower 3p% Recalculated historical modifiers to produce more realistic stats in past seasons.

04-18-2013, 10:25 AM	#435
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Best in the business, that's you. __________________ Current dynasty: OOTP25 Blitz: RTS meets Moneyball \| OOTP Mod: GM Excel Competitive Balance Tax/Revenue Sharing Calc \| FBCB Mods on Github

04-18-2013, 10:35 AM	#437
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	At some point I will have the time to give this game a go. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

04-18-2013, 10:58 AM	#438
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	HR, how difficult would it be to add a shop player around button? Maybe not even have it tell you exactly what you could get for a guy, but just provide a list of teams willing to negotiate or something.

04-18-2013, 11:45 AM	#443
muns Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baltimore MD	If people are having a hard time finding guys that match up salary wise there is a work around. Go to tools then league editor Sort by players then in the overview drop down find contract. That way you can find guys who are close matches to the guys you want to get rid of

04-18-2013, 11:48 AM	#444
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Can anyone test 1.0.7 and see if All-Defense totals are showing up under achievements yet?

04-18-2013, 11:58 AM	#445
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Cosmetic request: On the trade screen during the offseason/draft, is it possible to list the pick # for the current draft order? So for instance, if I have two orange Rd 1 Pick for the current year, it could say Rd 1 Pick (14) and Rd 1 Pick (19) just so I don't confuse myself.

04-18-2013, 04:01 PM	#449
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	In light of the stories with Durant/Anthony, is scoring title worthy of an achievement? Media usually makes mention of all of Jordan's scoring titles when listing his accomplishments.

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