WW XCIV Group Therapy - Game Over! - Page 9

Passacaglia · 05-13-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

Hmmm.. pulling your vote from someone with two votes, and the first to add a third vote to anybody.

So you don't like it when someone places a first vote, and you don't like when someone places a third vote -- do all votes have to be second votes with you?

Telle · 05-13-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

So you don't like it when someone places a first vote, and you don't like when someone places a third vote -- do all votes have to be second votes with you?

I just know that when I'm the first to add on to votes like that I get all jumped on for appearing wolf-ish. So I just wanted to point out someone else in the same situation

Passacaglia · 05-13-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

I just know that when I'm the first to add on to votes like that I get all jumped on for appearing wolf-ish. So I just wanted to point out someone else in the same situation

Well then let me say that the fact that you haven't voted yet appears wolf-ish.

PurdueBrad · 05-13-2009, 12:49 PM

Actually, upon further reflection, I'm much more like Chief Bromden. Only not Indian and not 6'11".

claphamsa · 05-13-2009, 12:50 PM

PurdueBrad · 05-13-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

huh?

You don't have to be confused anymore, we switched games.

claphamsa · 05-13-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

You don't have to be confused anymore, we switched games.

did you get hold of Poli's crack?

PurdueBrad · 05-13-2009, 12:54 PM

Do you mean qrack?

Chief Rum · 05-13-2009, 12:55 PM

Point of interest:

This might be metagaming, but Danny as much as said in the leadup that he was trying to get all of the roles in, and more or less succeeded. It sounded like the one role not there (the "interesting" one or whatever) was a non-essential side role.

This sounds to me like every role in the rules is in the game.

And that means we, for sure, have at least four standing wolves, with an additional sympathizer in this game.

Quick question for Danny: Do players with publically known roles (i.e. roles revealed in the first post of the thread) also have non-essential side roles (the ones that can't be revealed)? Or for the public roles, is that their only role?

PurdueBrad · 05-13-2009, 12:59 PM

Ahhhh, much better, all by myself, nobody here. Perfect.

dubb93 · 05-13-2009, 01:01 PM

Catching up.

Lathum · 05-13-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

So you don't like it when someone places a first vote, and you don't like when someone places a third vote -- do all votes have to be second votes with you?

as long as you don't take that second vote off them

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Originally Posted by Telle

I just know that when I'm the first to add on to votes like that I get all jumped on for appearing wolf-ish. So I just wanted to point out someone else in the same situation

that line of thinking was in vogue for a while but people don't really apply it anymore but if you want to use that as an excuse to vote me go right ahead.

I honestly had no idea how many votes EF had when I voted him, but his actions I felt warrented a vote.

Passacaglia · 05-13-2009, 01:14 PM

Vote count:

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saldana -- 1 dubb93 (244)
PurdueBrad -- 1 The Jackal (329)
Abe Sargent -- 1 Poli (252)
Passacaglia -- 1 lerriuqs (253)
hoopsguy -- 0
lerriuqs -- 0
dubb93 -- 1 saldana (304)
EagleFan -- 3 hoopsguy (328) PurdueBrad (343) Lathum (396)
PackerFanatic -- 1 claphamsa (335)
ntndeacon -- 2 Passacaglia (370) PackerFanatic (374)
Lathum -- 1 EagleFan (381)

dubb93 · 05-13-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

EF had when I voted him, but his actions I felt warrented a vote.

So he votes PB, then Hoops for a while to see if anything happens. Nothing happens so he goes PB again and then jumps off PB to go Lathum. I'm normally a vote changer at heart, but good god what the hell is he doing.

dubb93 · 05-13-2009, 01:22 PM

Everything that I've seen so far today EF looks the worst, almost like he is fishing for votes on some of the top players today.

dubb93 · 05-13-2009, 01:22 PM

Unvote Saldana
Vote EF

Telle · 05-13-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Well then let me say that the fact that you haven't voted yet appears wolf-ish.

It's always something, isn't it

I generally don't vote early on Day 1 because there is so little to go on and I don't like just randomly voting.

dubb93 · 05-13-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

It's always something, isn't it

I generally don't vote early on Day 1 because there is so little to go on and I don't like just randomly voting.

So how the hell do you vote day 1 then?

saldana · 05-13-2009, 01:26 PM

its a good thing the theme of this game is mental illness, because i think this is the most F*#ked up thread i have ever seen.

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 01:28 PM

vote ntn

Been quiet this game, is quiet generally and the longer a game goes on the harder it generally is to vote out the quiet ones.

Telle · 05-13-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

So how the hell do you vote day 1 then?

I throw out something based on gut feeling before I leave from work for the day. Admittedly not that much better

Or else I wait until it's a two or three horse race and put my vote where it keeps things slightly even.

dubb93 · 05-13-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I feel a lot like Billy Bibbit. So now I'm worried about my vote on EF, he seems to be playing the role rather than pushing an agenda.

Could be but what role? Must unvote three times every day? Must move vote with no rhyme or reason? I would get it if there was a reason for all the wackiness, but "just playing the role" is only going to lead to shitty vote analysis as the game goes on.

At some point it has to stop and it seems EF has wasted most of day 1 just moving his vote around for no reason whatsoever.

dubb93 · 05-13-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

vote ntn

Been quiet this game, is quiet generally and the longer a game goes on the harder it generally is to vote out the quiet ones.

Yea, but as was pointed out to me last game that is just what ntn does.

Telle · 05-13-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

vote ntn

Been quiet this game, is quiet generally and the longer a game goes on the harder it generally is to vote out the quiet ones.

He hasn't been quiet.. he's been absent. He hasn't checked in yet. I think it's a bit disingenuous to make him one of the lead vote getters when he hasn't even had a chance to play yet.

Abe Sargent · 05-13-2009, 01:34 PM

Vote ntndeacon

This makes it a tie. Let's see what shakes where.

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Yea, but as was pointed out to me last game that is just what ntn does.

That's right. It's what he does. If he's a wolf it's a real problem trying to vote him out later in the game. Hence my D1 vote. Plus as Telle points out he's not been quiet, he's been absent.

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Vote ntndeacon

This makes it a tie. Let's see what shakes where.

According to pass's vote count that actually puts him ahead a vote.

Passacaglia · 05-13-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

He hasn't been quiet.. he's been absent. He hasn't checked in yet. I think it's a bit disingenuous to make him one of the lead vote getters when he hasn't even had a chance to play yet.

But that's the thing. He's usually this quiet. So you can wait for him to have a chance to play, but when he does, you'll probably be disappointed. I think 49 hit the nail on the head, that it gets harder to vote for the quiet folk later in the game -- because by then, we've all got our own pet theories based on what the less quiet folk have said.

claphamsa · 05-13-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Yea, but as was pointed out to me last game that is just what ntn does.

doesnt mean you shouldnt vote for him.

Passacaglia · 05-13-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

According to pass's vote count that actually puts him ahead a vote.

I think you're missing dubb's vote.

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saldana -- 0
PurdueBrad -- 1 The Jackal (329)
Abe Sargent -- 1 Poli (252)
Passacaglia -- 1 lerriuqs (253)
hoopsguy -- 0
lerriuqs -- 0
dubb93 -- 1 saldana (304)
EagleFan -- 4 hoopsguy (328) PurdueBrad (343) Lathum (396) dubb93 (416)
PackerFanatic -- 1 claphamsa (335)
ntndeacon -- 4 Passacaglia (370) PackerFanatic (374) Barkeep49 (420) Abe Sargent (425)
Lathum -- 1 EagleFan (381)

Telle · 05-13-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

According to pass's vote count that actually puts him ahead a vote.

I've got four on each. Did you miss Dubb voting for EagleFan?

dubb93 · 05-13-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

doesnt mean you shouldnt vote for him.

True, however if read through last game my vote for him was shit on for that same reason. Just thought I should get that out there as it was pointed out to me.

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

I've got four on each. Did you miss Dubb voting for EagleFan?

Yes.

Danny · 05-13-2009, 01:42 PM

Just remember, you are voting for who you think no longer needs therapy. I think some of the candidates, maybe all of them, clearly do!

Telle · 05-13-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Just remember, you are voting for who you think no longer needs therapy. I think some of the candidates, maybe all of them, clearly do!

You think there's a person in this game who doesn't need therapy?

Alan T · 05-13-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Just remember, you are voting for who you think no longer needs therapy. I think some of the candidates, maybe all of them, clearly do!

You post that as if encouraging a no lynch vote.. Is that even possible this game? If so, what is the mechanic for that? Just out of curiosity.

dubb93 · 05-13-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Just remember, you are voting for who you think no longer needs therapy. I think some of the candidates, maybe all of them, clearly do!

claphamsa · 05-13-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

You think there's a person in this game who doesn't need therapy?

me

dubb93 · 05-13-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

You post that as if encouraging a no lynch vote.. Is that even possible this game? If so, what is the mechanic for that? Just out of curiosity.

I think it was just a joke. The story relates to making someone leave therapy even though the werewolf mechanic is to vote out needies.

Danny · 05-13-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

You post that as if encouraging a no lynch vote.. Is that even possible this game? If so, what is the mechanic for that? Just out of curiosity.

Like Dubb said, it was just a joke. Moderators need to have fun too. What happens in a tie is not known to the group. So, you can vote no lynch and what not, but you won't know what happens for sure.

Telle · 05-13-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

me

Alan T · 05-13-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

I think it was just a joke. The story relates to making someone leave therapy even though the werewolf mechanic is to vote out needies.

My lack of getting the joke might suggest that I suffer from "Paranoid personality disorders"

Passacaglia · 05-13-2009, 01:50 PM

UNVOTE NTNDEACON
VOTE NO LYNCH

If all the villagers have some sort of role, I think the risk of getting rid of one is just too great.

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 01:52 PM

Pass: I don't read Danny's message as suggesting there is a no lynch option at all. Merely we can try and see if there is one, but there's no promise about what will happen if we go that route.

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Pass: I don't read Danny's message as saying there is a no lynch option at all. Merely we can try and see if there is one, but there's no promise about what will happen if we go that route.

Fixed.

dubb93 · 05-13-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

UNVOTE NTNDEACON
VOTE NO LYNCH

If all the villagers have some sort of role, I think the risk of getting rid of one is just too great.

How do we vote out needies if we are too afraid to lynch villagers? How do we get information that leads to the lynching of needies if we are afraid to lynch villagers? I do not think this is a good idea Pass.

Autumn · 05-13-2009, 01:53 PM

I'm wary of anyone who has a run on them this early, so I'd like to introduce a third person to the mix.

I'm kind of stuck on the ntndeacon issue. I'm all for getting rid of quiet players, if only for a long-term deterrent. However, it's an easy vote for wolves to hide behind, or argue against. I'm thinking something more random is more likely to rile the Needies up.

Telle · 05-13-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

UNVOTE NTNDEACON
VOTE NO LYNCH

If all the villagers have some sort of role, I think the risk of getting rid of one is just too great.

As less-than-enthusiastic as I am about our current vote-getters, I don't like the idea of no lynch. Plus from the way Danny phrased things I'm guessing that somebody's getting lynched regardless and we just don't know who.

Passacaglia · 05-13-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Pass: I don't read Danny's message as suggesting there is a no lynch option at all. Merely we can try and see if there is one, but there's no promise about what will happen if we go that route.

I just popped him an email to ask. I read it the same way you did, but I also read what Abe said last game the same way, so I thought it was just me.

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 01:54 PM

BTW, I think it's time for our absolute ban on editing to come to an end. Back in the old days we use to be able to do an immeadiate for punctuation, spelling, missed word, etc. This was, to my knowledge, never abused. I liked it.

05-13-2009, 12:50 PM	#405
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	huh? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-13-2009, 12:55 PM	#409
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Point of interest: This might be metagaming, but Danny as much as said in the leadup that he was trying to get all of the roles in, and more or less succeeded. It sounded like the one role not there (the "interesting" one or whatever) was a non-essential side role. This sounds to me like every role in the rules is in the game. And that means we, for sure, have at least four standing wolves, with an additional sympathizer in this game. Quick question for Danny: Do players with publically known roles (i.e. roles revealed in the first post of the thread) also have non-essential side roles (the ones that can't be revealed)? Or for the public roles, is that their only role? __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

05-13-2009, 01:34 PM	#425
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Vote ntndeacon This makes it a tie. Let's see what shakes where. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-13-2009, 01:01 PM	#411
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	Catching up.

05-13-2009, 01:22 PM	#415
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	Everything that I've seen so far today EF looks the worst, almost like he is fishing for votes on some of the top players today.

05-13-2009, 01:22 PM	#416
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	Unvote Saldana Vote EF

05-13-2009, 01:26 PM	#419
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	its a good thing the theme of this game is mental illness, because i think this is the most F*#ked up thread i have ever seen.

05-13-2009, 01:28 PM	#420
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	vote ntn Been quiet this game, is quiet generally and the longer a game goes on the harder it generally is to vote out the quiet ones.

05-13-2009, 01:42 PM	#434
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Just remember, you are voting for who you think no longer needs therapy. I think some of the candidates, maybe all of them, clearly do!

05-13-2009, 01:50 PM	#443
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	UNVOTE NTNDEACON VOTE NO LYNCH If all the villagers have some sort of role, I think the risk of getting rid of one is just too great.

05-13-2009, 01:52 PM	#444
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Pass: I don't read Danny's message as suggesting there is a no lynch option at all. Merely we can try and see if there is one, but there's no promise about what will happen if we go that route.

05-13-2009, 01:53 PM	#447
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I'm wary of anyone who has a run on them this early, so I'd like to introduce a third person to the mix. I'm kind of stuck on the ntndeacon issue. I'm all for getting rid of quiet players, if only for a long-term deterrent. However, it's an easy vote for wolves to hide behind, or argue against. I'm thinking something more random is more likely to rile the Needies up.

05-13-2009, 01:54 PM	#450
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	BTW, I think it's time for our absolute ban on editing to come to an end. Back in the old days we use to be able to do an immeadiate for punctuation, spelling, missed word, etc. This was, to my knowledge, never abused. I liked it.

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