Official 2017 MLB Season Thread - Page 9

Logan · 08-10-2017, 07:23 AM

The fucking Wilpons.

NYY: 2 prospects Mets asked for and $1m in salary relief.

CLE: 30th rounder Ryder Ryan and about $5m in salary relief.

Mets chose latter.
— Marc Carig (@MarcCarig) August 10, 2017

Shkspr · 08-10-2017, 07:47 AM

And people say there aren't any heroes anymore.

JonInMiddleGA · 08-10-2017, 01:44 PM

Another club just sold a pitcher for $1.
And the Braves seem content to frequently get back the proverbial bag o'l balls to get salary relief.

Not exactly sure the Wilpons are unique at this point.

Logan · 08-10-2017, 02:10 PM

The Mets are an NYC franchise which owns their own TV network that kicks in a tremendous amount of money. They came into the season with World Series aspirations and yet had the 13th highest payroll in baseball. Take out David Wright's $20MM salary which they were always going to collect insurance on and they would have been below the league average. That's unconscionable. Shockingly this team couldn't handle injuries to any of its big players.

They had a window of opportunity where they should have been taking advantage of the tremendous value they were getting out of their pitching staff. Instead they dumpster dove on guys like Reyes and did nothing to address the holes on their roster from last season.

JonInMiddleGA · 08-10-2017, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan

The Mets are an NYC franchise which owns their own TV network that kicks in a tremendous amount of money.

That TV network also contributes to their financial negatives, as part-"owner" of the $700m in debt service the club was dealing with.

Logan · 08-10-2017, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

That TV network also contributes to their financial negatives, as part-"owner" of the $700m in debt service the club was dealing with.

They have (had) $700MM of debt..."debt service" is the amount required to be paid on that debt. They pay next to nothing in terms of principal amortization and have about $23MM in annual debt service. Their dividends from BAM cover almost half of that.

JonInMiddleGA · 08-10-2017, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan

They have (had) $700MM of debt..."debt service" is the amount required to be paid on that debt. They pay next to nothing in terms of principal amortization and have about $23MM in annual debt service. Their dividends from BAM cover almost half of that.

Sorry, I kept trying to type that post between interruptions & my phrasing got screwed up. "debt service on $700m" is what I was trying to say, I just didn't type it. My bad.

ISiddiqui · 08-10-2017, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan

The fucking Wilpons.

NYY: 2 prospects Mets asked for and $1m in salary relief.

CLE: 30th rounder Ryder Ryan and about $5m in salary relief.

Mets chose latter.
— Marc Carig (@MarcCarig) August 10, 2017

Does this account for the fact that the Yankees are on Bruce's no-trade clause?

MLB trade rumors: Mets' Jay Bruce can block deals to these 8 teams, including Yankees | NJ.com

MrBug708 · 08-10-2017, 06:10 PM

Assuming they held talks, I'd wager that Bruce probably waived it?

MizzouRah · 08-10-2017, 10:49 PM

Can we play Kansas City more?

Arles · 08-11-2017, 10:44 AM

No kidding, Cards hitting their stride now!

PilotMan · 08-11-2017, 03:40 PM

Jeter to the Marlins for 1.2 Bln.

Film at 11.

Scoobz0202 · 08-12-2017, 09:36 PM

Bryce Harper just went down with what looked like a bad leg/knee injury.

Alex Pavlovic on Twitter: "Harper slipped on the bag, had to be helped off field. It's been raining the entire night: https://t.co/O8HSQc0sMk"

CrescentMoonie · 08-12-2017, 09:37 PM

They're trying to force this Nats game to be played even though the suburbs are still getting doused and the start time was pushed back to 10pm. Rizzo and the Lerners deserve to lose Harper with the way they've handled tonight and several others this year.

Shkspr · 08-12-2017, 10:56 PM

So the Nats have lost Werth, Eaton, Harper, Taylor, and Raburn to injury so far this year. How can Dusty keep confusing them for pitchers?

CrescentMoonie · 08-13-2017, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shkspr

So the Nats have lost Werth, Eaton, Harper, Taylor, and Raburn to injury so far this year. How can Dusty keep confusing them for pitchers?

Ask Joe Ross.

Chief Rum · 08-13-2017, 08:13 AM

It could change as soon as later today, but as of right now, were the playoffs to start, the injury-ravaged Angels would be the second wild card in the AL. They did this with 3/5's of their projected rotation on the DL and two others from last year's rotation, along with their top three bullpen arms, Escobar currently out, Maybin and Valbuena have missed time, Pujols and Calhoun have slumped all year, Espinosa got so bad he was cut, and that Trout guy missed six weks or more, too.

It's really quite remarkable they're even in the mix.

MizzouRah · 08-13-2017, 08:18 AM

8 in a row, tied for 1st!!!!!

CrescentMoonie · 08-13-2017, 10:40 AM

No ligament or tendon damage for Harper. Watching that again, I just don't see how it's possible. He's out indefinitely but expected to be able to return for the playoffs.

CrescentMoonie · 08-13-2017, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

8 in a row, tied for 1st!!!!!

If the Pirates can keep up, that could be a pretty amazing 4 team race.

MizzouRah · 08-13-2017, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

If the Pirates can keep up, that could be a pretty amazing 4 team race.

Agreed!

CrescentMoonie · 08-13-2017, 06:10 PM

With his hat on, Nats rookie Andrew Stephenson looks like the bastard child of Owen Wilson and Judge Reinhold.

CrescentMoonie · 08-13-2017, 09:31 PM

In the last 24:30, the Nats and Giants have played 28 innings and counting. in what was essentially a triple header. The third game is in the bottom of the 11th.

JPhillips · 08-15-2017, 10:53 PM

Joey Votto is now one game away from tying Ted Williams' record of 21 games in a row reaching base twice or more.

Atocep · 08-21-2017, 04:31 PM

Aaron Judge's regression to the mean has been swift and brutal.

cuervo72 · 08-23-2017, 08:12 PM

Good job, good effort Nats RF.

Jas_lov · 08-23-2017, 08:13 PM

Rich Hill has a perfect game in the 8th for the Dodgers

Jas_lov · 08-23-2017, 08:14 PM

He's now 3 outs away

claphamsa · 08-23-2017, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Good job, good effort Nats RF.

claphamsa · 08-23-2017, 08:16 PM

i assume ESPN will show the last inning?

PilotMan · 08-23-2017, 08:17 PM

LA fans, where are you?!?!?

We need a run like yesterday.

henry296 · 08-23-2017, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

He's now 3 outs away

Game is still scoreless.

Jas_lov · 08-23-2017, 08:17 PM

Well it's still 0-0 so Hill could throw a perfect 9 and not get a win!

PilotMan · 08-23-2017, 08:18 PM

Do not Harvey Haddix this.

claphamsa · 08-23-2017, 08:18 PM

or the LF could lean into a strike...since that happens

Jas_lov · 08-23-2017, 08:23 PM

And there's an error. Perfect gone.

PilotMan · 08-23-2017, 08:37 PM

Throws 9 no hit innings, and LA can't get any O going.

PilotMan · 08-23-2017, 08:42 PM

Jas_lov · 08-23-2017, 08:42 PM

Then he loses 1-0 in the 10th on a walk off. Poor Rich Hill.

cuervo72 · 08-23-2017, 08:43 PM

Well that rather stinks.

MrBug708 · 08-23-2017, 08:44 PM

NobodyHere · 08-25-2017, 01:49 PM

So is this baseball or are they attempting a Naked Gun reboot

CrescentMoonie · 09-04-2017, 11:01 PM

Indians and Diamondbacks ridiculously hot right now. JD Martinez with 4 homers in Arizona's 11th straight win.

MrBug708 · 09-04-2017, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

Indians and Diamondbacks ridiculously hot right now. JD Martinez with 4 homers in Arizona's 11th straight win.

Rich Hill still had a quality start

Chief Rum · 09-05-2017, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Rich Hill still had a quality start

That's really your response to a 13-0 defeat?

Good thing the Doyers socked away the wins earlier in the srason. They have been pretty bad the past week or two.

MrBug708 · 09-05-2017, 08:30 AM

It's pretty incredulous that the Dodgers lose by 13 and their starter still get a quality win.

cartman · 09-05-2017, 08:39 AM

Joey Gallo recently hit the 100 hit mark for his young career. 44 of those hits have been home runs.

Logan · 09-05-2017, 03:32 PM

Boston Red Sox Used Electronic Devices to Steal Signs Against Yankees - The New York Times

JPhillips · 09-05-2017, 08:49 PM

I was looking around Joey Votto splits and I saw that this year he has a .300 OBP with an 0-2 count.

I love Joey Votto.

stevew · 09-05-2017, 10:52 PM

4 more years of Clint Hurdle. Now I know how Republicans felt on Election Day in 2012.

08-10-2017, 07:23 AM	#401
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	The fucking Wilpons. NYY: 2 prospects Mets asked for and $1m in salary relief. CLE: 30th rounder Ryder Ryan and about $5m in salary relief. Mets chose latter. — Marc Carig (@MarcCarig) August 10, 2017

08-10-2017, 01:44 PM	#403
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Another club just sold a pitcher for $1. And the Braves seem content to frequently get back the proverbial bag o'l balls to get salary relief. Not exactly sure the Wilpons are unique at this point. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

08-11-2017, 10:44 AM	#411
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	No kidding, Cards hitting their stride now! __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

08-11-2017, 03:40 PM	#412
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Jeter to the Marlins for 1.2 Bln. Film at 11. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

08-12-2017, 09:37 PM	#414
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	They're trying to force this Nats game to be played even though the suburbs are still getting doused and the start time was pushed back to 10pm. Rizzo and the Lerners deserve to lose Harper with the way they've handled tonight and several others this year. Last edited by CrescentMoonie : 08-12-2017 at 09:38 PM.

08-10-2017, 07:47 AM	#402
Shkspr College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Amarillo, TX	And people say there aren't any heroes anymore.

08-10-2017, 02:10 PM	#404
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	The Mets are an NYC franchise which owns their own TV network that kicks in a tremendous amount of money. They came into the season with World Series aspirations and yet had the 13th highest payroll in baseball. Take out David Wright's $20MM salary which they were always going to collect insurance on and they would have been below the league average. That's unconscionable. Shockingly this team couldn't handle injuries to any of its big players. They had a window of opportunity where they should have been taking advantage of the tremendous value they were getting out of their pitching staff. Instead they dumpster dove on guys like Reyes and did nothing to address the holes on their roster from last season.

08-10-2017, 06:10 PM	#409
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Assuming they held talks, I'd wager that Bruce probably waived it?

08-10-2017, 10:49 PM	#410
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Can we play Kansas City more?

08-12-2017, 09:36 PM	#413
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	Bryce Harper just went down with what looked like a bad leg/knee injury. Alex Pavlovic on Twitter: "Harper slipped on the bag, had to be helped off field. It's been raining the entire night: https://t.co/O8HSQc0sMk"

08-12-2017, 10:56 PM	#415
Shkspr College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Amarillo, TX	So the Nats have lost Werth, Eaton, Harper, Taylor, and Raburn to injury so far this year. How can Dusty keep confusing them for pitchers?

08-13-2017, 08:13 AM	#417
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	It could change as soon as later today, but as of right now, were the playoffs to start, the injury-ravaged Angels would be the second wild card in the AL. They did this with 3/5's of their projected rotation on the DL and two others from last year's rotation, along with their top three bullpen arms, Escobar currently out, Maybin and Valbuena have missed time, Pujols and Calhoun have slumped all year, Espinosa got so bad he was cut, and that Trout guy missed six weks or more, too. It's really quite remarkable they're even in the mix. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready. Last edited by Chief Rum : 08-13-2017 at 08:14 AM.

08-13-2017, 08:18 AM	#418
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	8 in a row, tied for 1st!!!!!

08-13-2017, 10:40 AM	#419
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	No ligament or tendon damage for Harper. Watching that again, I just don't see how it's possible. He's out indefinitely but expected to be able to return for the playoffs.

08-13-2017, 06:10 PM	#422
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	With his hat on, Nats rookie Andrew Stephenson looks like the bastard child of Owen Wilson and Judge Reinhold.

08-13-2017, 09:31 PM	#423
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	In the last 24:30, the Nats and Giants have played 28 innings and counting. in what was essentially a triple header. The third game is in the bottom of the 11th.

08-15-2017, 10:53 PM	#424
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Joey Votto is now one game away from tying Ted Williams' record of 21 games in a row reaching base twice or more. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

08-21-2017, 04:31 PM	#425
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Aaron Judge's regression to the mean has been swift and brutal.

08-23-2017, 08:12 PM	#426
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Good job, good effort Nats RF. __________________ null

08-23-2017, 08:13 PM	#427
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Rich Hill has a perfect game in the 8th for the Dodgers

08-23-2017, 08:14 PM	#428
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	He's now 3 outs away

08-23-2017, 08:16 PM	#430
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	i assume ESPN will show the last inning? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

08-23-2017, 08:17 PM	#431
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	LA fans, where are you?!?!? We need a run like yesterday. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

08-23-2017, 08:17 PM	#433
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Well it's still 0-0 so Hill could throw a perfect 9 and not get a win!

08-23-2017, 08:18 PM	#434
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Do not Harvey Haddix this. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

08-23-2017, 08:18 PM	#435
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	or the LF could lean into a strike...since that happens __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

08-23-2017, 08:23 PM	#436
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	And there's an error. Perfect gone.

08-23-2017, 08:37 PM	#437
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Throws 9 no hit innings, and LA can't get any O going. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

08-23-2017, 08:42 PM	#438
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08-23-2017, 08:42 PM	#439
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Then he loses 1-0 in the 10th on a walk off. Poor Rich Hill.

08-23-2017, 08:43 PM	#440
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Well that rather stinks. __________________ null

08-23-2017, 08:44 PM	#441
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Damn

08-25-2017, 01:49 PM	#442
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	So is this baseball or are they attempting a Naked Gun reboot __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

09-04-2017, 11:01 PM	#443
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	Indians and Diamondbacks ridiculously hot right now. JD Martinez with 4 homers in Arizona's 11th straight win.

09-05-2017, 08:30 AM	#446
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	It's pretty incredulous that the Dodgers lose by 13 and their starter still get a quality win.