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Narcizo · 04-25-2013, 09:18 AM

While we wait for any new potential information I'll go ahead and

Vote InBlue

based on the stuff above.

Narcizo · 04-25-2013, 09:22 AM

Also like to point out that it's pretty wolfy to hang around and wait to see what information is forthcoming before saying anything / coming with up with theories. I think there's quite a lot of stuff to think about out there now and it would be a shame and not beneficial to the village if everyone is going to wait and see if the seer has anything to reveal or who guarded whom or whatever.

Coffee Warlord · 04-25-2013, 09:26 AM

Tough to do my usual voting analysis with only 2 dead people. Good problem to have, but not much to work with.

Is it possible one of my theories from yesterday is accurate? The hitman won't kill other mob members even if hired by a mobster?

Narcizo · 04-25-2013, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Tough to do my usual voting analysis with only 2 dead people. Good problem to have, but not much to work with.

Is it possible one of my theories from yesterday is accurate? The hitman won't kill other mob members even if hired by a mobster?

Yeah I think that's a possibility. I think the mob member will want to reveal that anyway as they want to take out the opposition and a lynch will do that for them.

Narcizo · 04-25-2013, 09:29 AM

I know I said I kinda trusted Danny but any game where we're both alive and I have more posts than him is going to make me suspect him.

Coffee Warlord · 04-25-2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

Yeah I think that's a possibility. I think the mob member will want to reveal that anyway as they want to take out the opposition and a lynch will do that for them.

Just like Jackal did yesterday.

Narcizo · 04-25-2013, 09:31 AM

Other than InBlue I still think mau bears looking at along with DT. And, of course, we really ought to all vote Path as it's his birthday.

Happy birthday old man.

Narcizo · 04-25-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Just like Jackal did yesterday.

It's also in the village's interest to lynch the wolves who might have been nightkill targets.

Narcizo · 04-25-2013, 09:40 AM

There's a bunch of UTRs lead by DV sarcastic-

and the non-revealing Britrock. Quite a lot of candidates out there. In fact with no night-kill so far I might be tempted to sling an anti-UTR vote out there. At least InBlue has stuck her neck out with her voting to some extent.

The Jackal · 04-25-2013, 09:46 AM

I thought about revealing right at the beginning of yesterday but wanted to see where the votes shook out. If we had another case of a mafioso getting targeted last night, they probably know it and will probably be very careful today. I wasn't terribly surprised to see that font hadn't voted by the time I revealed yesterday.

The Jackal · 04-25-2013, 09:48 AM

I was also surprised that i won the NK with $350, but if you think about it from the mafia's POV - if they knew that they couldn't be NKed, then the chances were good that a villager winning the NK would kill another villager, and if they hit a mafioso, at least there were two teams so it could still only hurt one of them.

The Jackal · 04-25-2013, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Just like Jackal did yesterday.

Like I've said a few times now, anyone who gives me absolute trust for that reveal is foolish.

Narcizo · 04-25-2013, 09:52 AM

I give Jackal my absolute trust.

Narcizo · 04-25-2013, 09:53 AM

Fonti voted Britrock before your reveal Jacky.

The Jackal · 04-25-2013, 09:53 AM

Part of me does want to know what DT is to add even more clarity to D1 voting.

Also, it looks like no one won the cunning last night but that bid on the seer does lead you to believe that the mafia might have won it.

The Jackal · 04-25-2013, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

Fonti voted Britrock before your reveal Jacky.

Oh, must have missed it on my phone.

JAG · 04-25-2013, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

I thought about revealing right at the beginning of yesterday but wanted to see where the votes shook out. If we had another case of a mafioso getting targeted last night, they probably know it and will probably be very careful today. I wasn't terribly surprised to see that font hadn't voted by the time I revealed yesterday.

I think it was smart to wait for the same reason I waited and we did manage to coax a couple votes out of font, so it did work out to some degree at least. It's just stunning to me how the mob has used their cash to this point.

The Jackal · 04-25-2013, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

I give Jackal my absolute trust.

Fool!

Narcizo · 04-25-2013, 09:54 AM

Oh and DV.

The Jackal · 04-25-2013, 09:55 AM

I also think there's a good chance one of DV or murray are mafia, looking at places where votes fell on D1.

The Jackal · 04-25-2013, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

Oh and DV.

Yeah not sure how I missed both of those. That probably bumps DV up a little in trust, but could be the other team.

Narcizo · 04-25-2013, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JAG

I think it was smart to wait for the same reason I waited and we did manage to coax a couple votes out of font, so it did work out to some degree at least. It's just stunning to me how the mob has used their cash to this point.

Yeah, kind of makes me look at the UTRs who might be busy in real life and not have the time to think things through/coordinate properly.

The Jackal · 04-25-2013, 10:00 AM

vote murrayyyyy

Narcizo · 04-25-2013, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Yeah not sure how I missed both of those. That probably bumps DV up a little in trust, but could be the other team.

I slave away for hours lovingly crafting vote tallies and you just ignore them. I HATE YOU!

Or something.

The Jackal · 04-25-2013, 10:00 AM

I should be around this evening, I'll be at work so hopefully things are slow.

mauchow · 04-25-2013, 10:01 AM

I went from semi trusted to a good candudate all in a matter of hours...by the same person, narcizo. I'm a little irked by this.. you're always on my case regardless. Lol

Everyone just disregard naecizo and any analysis towards me. K thx

The Jackal · 04-25-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

I slave away for hours lovingly crafting vote tallies and you just ignore them. I HATE YOU!

Or something.

I have a tab open with your vote history while I'm writing posts this morning. It's very helpful.

JAG · 04-25-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

Other than InBlue I still think mau bears looking at along with DT. And, of course, we really ought to all vote Path as it's his birthday.

Happy birthday old man.

I don't really see Mau as a wolf. He got a ton of votes yesterday, he was pretty out in front with his voting too at a time when the wolves were probably sitting back and trying to figure out if one of them had been outed after what I posted about a possible NK on mafia. Leaving his vote on font D1 is a bit suspicious, but he voted her right away to start the day, which is less so.

Narcizo · 04-25-2013, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mauchow

I went from semi trusted to a good candudate all in a matter of hours...by the same person, narcizo. I'm a little irked by this.. you're always on my case regardless. Lol

What can I say - I find myself attracted to you. Apparently.

Narcizo · 04-25-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JAG

I don't really see Mau as a wolf. He got a ton of votes yesterday, he was pretty out in front with his voting too at a time when the wolves were probably sitting back and trying to figure out if one of them had been outed after what I posted about a possible NK on mafia.

Well, yeah - he seemed out front about attaching his vote to yours and did seem overly defensive. I won't be voting him today though.

JAG · 04-25-2013, 10:10 AM

I'm guessing we're not going to get a seer reveal or NK reveal today, though I'd be happy if I'm wrong about that.

The Jackal · 04-25-2013, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JAG

I'm guessing we're not going to get a seer reveal or NK reveal today, though I'd be happy if I'm wrong about that.

Maybe someone bought the BG and protected you to nullify the NK - wasn't me, but that's a potential option.

JAG · 04-25-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Maybe someone bought the BG and protected you to nullify the NK - wasn't me, but that's a potential option.

Yeah, I figured I was probably a logical NK and BG target. But if the village bought the NK, presumably we have another wolf in our crosshairs. Or if we bought the seer, we should have some more good info to use when we have a lot of decent candidates.

Coffee Warlord · 04-25-2013, 10:23 AM

Stranger things have happened, but it'd be a pretty damn impressive stroke of fortune if whoever bought the BG just happened to guard the right guy, with pretty much zero information on who to protect.

JAG · 04-25-2013, 10:33 AM

So do we think font's teammates lined up to try and protect her knowing it would come out soon that she was a wolf anyway? Depending on when the mafia is able to pool their money, they may have wanted to see if they could get her to last an extra day to get her cash, since she would have had at least $600-1000+ on her. But then again, I doubt that's worth shining a spotlight on you. Then again, they didn't have a lot of time to talk over how they wanted to play it so there may not have been deep thought behind their decision.

murrayyyyy · 04-25-2013, 10:36 AM

Really, no one voted for Brit yet? I guess everyone is off that one now but I thought I'd wake up and see his name on the list. I can't win a bet or a service so throwing darts at the board here. Zinto's quiet so see if it brings him in to post.

vote Zinto

JAG · 04-25-2013, 10:42 AM

Vote DT

Not 100% sure I'm sticking with this, but I feel like he's been off a bit this game and I want to at least get something in.

Coffee Warlord · 04-25-2013, 10:43 AM

Oh sure, now you vote DT. Couldn't do it a couple days ago when I woulda made money.

Coffee Warlord · 04-25-2013, 10:45 AM

Can someone also explain why brit now? Seeing as wasn't JAG's original theory based on a purchase of the hitman that we're now pretty positive didn't happen?

Narcizo · 04-25-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Can someone also explain why brit now? Seeing as wasn't JAG's original theory based on a purchase of the hitman that we're now pretty positive didn't happen?

I think the fact that he didn't reveal that he had the hookers sent to him - suggesting he was maybe trying to work out a gameplan with his wolfie team-mates before saying anything :shurg: A villager would be revealing information as soon as it happens because information is the friend of the village.

Narcizo · 04-25-2013, 11:05 AM

Except when it isn't.

Chief Rum · 04-25-2013, 11:22 AM

Is there any reason for the BG buyer to not announce he/she did so?

I understand the Casino buyer, since that probably means more money for that person, and would put a target on their back.

Coffee Warlord · 04-25-2013, 11:26 AM

The only worry there is the revealer would then be known as someone light on money, thus reducing the number of candidates the wolves would want to target to get money.

Benefits might outweigh though.

Chief Rum · 04-25-2013, 11:34 AM

I still believe britrock deserves looking at. Maybe I am weighing not revealing about the ladies too highly, but I just can't think of a good reason for a villager to withhold that information.

JAG · 04-25-2013, 11:35 AM

In my opinion they should reveal as it would give me some trust for the individual if it turns out they blocked a kill on me or someone else, assuming we get no information regarding what happened with the night kill. The lack of info to this point suggests they either haven't been on yet, they are trying to slow play that info to see what happens with voting, or just have a different strategic take on it than I do.

Narcizo · 04-25-2013, 11:39 AM

Yeah I think they should reveal whom they protected. Particularly if it wasn't JAG. Slow reveal is fine by me though. Just as long as the majority of the village have the information to work with before deadline. If they do reveal they're giving the wolves a tough choice - take out someone with little money but who has more than average trust because of the block. I think the benefits out-weigh the losses.

JAG · 04-25-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I still believe britrock deserves looking at. Maybe I am weighing not revealing about the ladies too highly, but I just can't think of a good reason for a villager to withhold that information.

I agree. I think he may have withheld the info not realizing that I would find out he should know he was sent the girls even though he bought no services and knowing that if he revealed it, it would make him more of a suspect. His only saving grace is I don't think it's likely he's part of font's team based on her vote for him, so that at least eliminates a couple possible wolves he could be.

path12 · 04-25-2013, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

Yeah, you misunderstood me. I didn't mean that both were on the same team, but that both bore looking at. I just think InBlue's vote is more suspect than DT's, given HER

newness and the timing of the votes. Then again maybe InBlue has played a lot werewolf/mafia somewhere else and we're doing her a disservice, as my case against her is based on her newness.

I assume that all of our newer folks have played somewhere before. All of their analyses have been pretty sharp from the start.

path12 · 04-25-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Is it possible one of my theories from yesterday is accurate? The hitman won't kill other mob members even if hired by a mobster?

Isn't that what Jackal said happened with font? I'm nearly positive it was.

path12 · 04-25-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

Happy birthday old man.

Thanks narc. All you kids just keep getting younger. And get off my lawn!

04-25-2013, 11:22 AM	#442
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Is there any reason for the BG buyer to not announce he/she did so? I understand the Casino buyer, since that probably means more money for that person, and would put a target on their back. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

04-25-2013, 11:34 AM	#444
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I still believe britrock deserves looking at. Maybe I am weighing not revealing about the ladies too highly, but I just can't think of a good reason for a villager to withhold that information. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

04-25-2013, 09:18 AM	#401
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	While we wait for any new potential information I'll go ahead and Vote InBlue based on the stuff above.

04-25-2013, 09:22 AM	#402
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Also like to point out that it's pretty wolfy to hang around and wait to see what information is forthcoming before saying anything / coming with up with theories. I think there's quite a lot of stuff to think about out there now and it would be a shame and not beneficial to the village if everyone is going to wait and see if the seer has anything to reveal or who guarded whom or whatever.

04-25-2013, 09:26 AM	#403
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Tough to do my usual voting analysis with only 2 dead people. Good problem to have, but not much to work with. Is it possible one of my theories from yesterday is accurate? The hitman won't kill other mob members even if hired by a mobster?

04-25-2013, 09:29 AM	#405
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I know I said I kinda trusted Danny but any game where we're both alive and I have more posts than him is going to make me suspect him.

04-25-2013, 09:31 AM	#407
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Other than InBlue I still think mau bears looking at along with DT. And, of course, we really ought to all vote Path as it's his birthday. Happy birthday old man.

04-25-2013, 09:40 AM	#409
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	There's a bunch of UTRs lead by DV sarcastic- and the non-revealing Britrock. Quite a lot of candidates out there. In fact with no night-kill so far I might be tempted to sling an anti-UTR vote out there. At least InBlue has stuck her neck out with her voting to some extent.

04-25-2013, 09:46 AM	#410
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I thought about revealing right at the beginning of yesterday but wanted to see where the votes shook out. If we had another case of a mafioso getting targeted last night, they probably know it and will probably be very careful today. I wasn't terribly surprised to see that font hadn't voted by the time I revealed yesterday.

04-25-2013, 09:48 AM	#411
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I was also surprised that i won the NK with $350, but if you think about it from the mafia's POV - if they knew that they couldn't be NKed, then the chances were good that a villager winning the NK would kill another villager, and if they hit a mafioso, at least there were two teams so it could still only hurt one of them.

04-25-2013, 09:52 AM	#413
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I give Jackal my absolute trust.

04-25-2013, 09:53 AM	#414
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Fonti voted Britrock before your reveal Jacky.

04-25-2013, 09:53 AM	#415
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Part of me does want to know what DT is to add even more clarity to D1 voting. Also, it looks like no one won the cunning last night but that bid on the seer does lead you to believe that the mafia might have won it.

04-25-2013, 09:54 AM	#419
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Oh and DV.

04-25-2013, 09:55 AM	#420
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I also think there's a good chance one of DV or murray are mafia, looking at places where votes fell on D1.

04-25-2013, 10:00 AM	#423
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	vote murrayyyyy

04-25-2013, 10:00 AM	#425
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I should be around this evening, I'll be at work so hopefully things are slow.

04-25-2013, 10:01 AM	#426
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	I went from semi trusted to a good candudate all in a matter of hours...by the same person, narcizo. I'm a little irked by this.. you're always on my case regardless. Lol Everyone just disregard naecizo and any analysis towards me. K thx

04-25-2013, 10:10 AM	#431
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	I'm guessing we're not going to get a seer reveal or NK reveal today, though I'd be happy if I'm wrong about that.

04-25-2013, 10:23 AM	#434
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Stranger things have happened, but it'd be a pretty damn impressive stroke of fortune if whoever bought the BG just happened to guard the right guy, with pretty much zero information on who to protect.

04-25-2013, 10:33 AM	#435
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	So do we think font's teammates lined up to try and protect her knowing it would come out soon that she was a wolf anyway? Depending on when the mafia is able to pool their money, they may have wanted to see if they could get her to last an extra day to get her cash, since she would have had at least $600-1000+ on her. But then again, I doubt that's worth shining a spotlight on you. Then again, they didn't have a lot of time to talk over how they wanted to play it so there may not have been deep thought behind their decision.

04-25-2013, 10:36 AM	#436
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	Really, no one voted for Brit yet? I guess everyone is off that one now but I thought I'd wake up and see his name on the list. I can't win a bet or a service so throwing darts at the board here. Zinto's quiet so see if it brings him in to post. vote Zinto

04-25-2013, 10:42 AM	#437
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Vote DT Not 100% sure I'm sticking with this, but I feel like he's been off a bit this game and I want to at least get something in.

04-25-2013, 10:43 AM	#438
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Oh sure, now you vote DT. Couldn't do it a couple days ago when I woulda made money.

04-25-2013, 10:45 AM	#439
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Can someone also explain why brit now? Seeing as wasn't JAG's original theory based on a purchase of the hitman that we're now pretty positive didn't happen?

04-25-2013, 11:05 AM	#441
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Except when it isn't.

04-25-2013, 11:26 AM	#443
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	The only worry there is the revealer would then be known as someone light on money, thus reducing the number of candidates the wolves would want to target to get money. Benefits might outweigh though.

04-25-2013, 11:35 AM	#445
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	In my opinion they should reveal as it would give me some trust for the individual if it turns out they blocked a kill on me or someone else, assuming we get no information regarding what happened with the night kill. The lack of info to this point suggests they either haven't been on yet, they are trying to slow play that info to see what happens with voting, or just have a different strategic take on it than I do.

04-25-2013, 11:39 AM	#446
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Yeah I think they should reveal whom they protected. Particularly if it wasn't JAG. Slow reveal is fine by me though. Just as long as the majority of the village have the information to work with before deadline. If they do reveal they're giving the wolves a tough choice - take out someone with little money but who has more than average trust because of the block. I think the benefits out-weigh the losses.

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