WW LXVI: Money Money Money (Game Over!)

[saldana]

i have never been a big fan of people that drop in quick second votes....i dont know anything about him either, so i am gonna go with my knee jerk reaction

vote mauboy1

[path12]

Originally Posted by saldana

anyone else find it ironic that the guy that, as a player, is constantly expounding the value of information is running a game where no information is available?

We've missed you, sal.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by path12

We've missed you, sally

Fixed it for ya.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by saldana

anyone else find it ironic that the guy that, as a player, is constantly expounding the value of information is running a game where no information is available?

What do you mean?

[Schmidty]

By the way, I have no idea who to vote for, and I still haven't slept in almost 24 hours. I am going wiggy. If I pass out and don't wake up when the deadline alarm beeps (yes, I am that pathetic), I told my 6 year-old daughter to turn on her Hannah Montana CD really loud to wake me up.

[path12]

Well, Christ on a crutch. I want to vote clap, but that throws another one vote candidate into the mix. I don't particularly have anything for or against either mauboy or SnDvls, and I've gotta leave.

Screw it. I'm going with my gut.

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

[Schmidty]

Wait, is there hidden friction between GM and player?

This could get good.....

[Tyrith]

I have to leave soon too. And I still hate this. We have absolutely nothing.

Right now I feel like I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. The only person I have anything like a negative feeling about is hoops, and honestly, he's too valuable for me to like killing him right now. But that leaves me in the position that path was in, except worse, because the timing of this vote is going to leave me on the lurch regardless.

I'm going to stall a few more minutes, but this is my vote speech.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Fixed it for ya.

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Wait, is there hidden friction between GM and player?

This could get good.....

you are lucky it would cost me 10 grand to vote for you at this point.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by saldana

you are lucky it would cost me 10 grand to vote for you at this point.

Dude, for that I would totally become a wolf. I LOVE that candybar!!!!

[Tyrith]

Meh. Mauboy is the quiet one, probably, and his vote wasn't the greatest in terms of circumstances. Sorry.

VOTE MAUBOY1

[DaddyTorgo]

man...i hate not having any thoughts. The earlier days of games are irritating.

[Barkeep49]

Updated vote count:

Hoops – Chief (276)
Chief Rum – Alan (374)
Mauboy – Sndvls (388). Saldana (401)
Sndvls – Pass (394), mauboy (396), tyrith(411)
Clap – path(406)

[Schmidty]

Well, I'm getting tired.

Since he tried to bribe me with candy (I think):

Vote saldana

[claphamsa]

hmmm. mau vs sundevils...

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Updated vote count:

Hoops – Chief (276)
Chief Rum – Alan (374)
Mauboy – Sndvls (388). Saldana (401)
Sndvls – Pass (394), mauboy (396), tyrith(411)
Clap – path(406)

BK -- Tyrith's vote should be on mauboy.

[The Jackal]

I'm going to vote claphamsa

I don't have much reason other than he voted for me yesterday, and a little extra money can help us out.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I'm going to vote claphamsa

I don't have much reason other than he voted for me yesterday, and a little extra money can help us out.

JERK!

[claphamsa]

vote maugirl

Well since im getting votes.... nothing pesonal.....

[hoopsguy]

Hmm, I'm not wild about any of the voting arguments I've heard so far.

Here is one that has been rumaging about in my head - why Lathum for the night kill? Was there anything that he gave away in his posts that would suggest that he obtained the seer? I went back and didn't see them.

Going to do some quick research - looking to see if the rules stated that the beneficiary would be declared publicly on night kills.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Hmm, I'm not wild about any of the voting arguments I've heard so far.

Here is one that has been rumaging about in my head - why Lathum for the night kill? Was there anything that he gave away in his posts that would suggest that he obtained the seer? I went back and didn't see them.

Going to do some quick research - looking to see if the rules stated that the beneficiary would be declared publicly on night kills.

Are you asking if there's anything in his posts that would suggest if he was going to bid on the seer? I don't see why he would suggest that he obtained the seer at night, once he got it.

[hoopsguy]

On hand – Eligible to be used freely, however, any money on hand is given to Cutthroat upon death.

Second, players must also name a beneficiary. When a player dies all their money (except what the Cutthroats take) goes to the beneficiary. Players may change their beneficiary at any time for the cost of $10,000.

A beneficiary is revealed only upon death or by using the Lawyer service.

The third quote is an answer to a question, appearing in Post #78. The first two quotes are in the rules.

If you asked me before the game to try and guess who people would name as their beneficiary, I would have guessed Lathum names Saldana. I'm wondering if the wolf team - with Saldana among their membership - would have thought along the same lines?

Is it thin? Yeah, probably. But no thinner than my thoughts on Passacaglia and Tyrith coming into today.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Hmm, I'm not wild about any of the voting arguments I've heard so far.

Here is one that has been rumaging about in my head - why Lathum for the night kill? Was there anything that he gave away in his posts that would suggest that he obtained the seer? I went back and didn't see them.

Going to do some quick research - looking to see if the rules stated that the beneficiary would be declared publicly on night kills.

This is what BK responded I think to one of my questions on day 1 about this.

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

A beneficiary is revealed only upon death or by using the Lawyer service.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Are you asking if there's anything in his posts that would suggest if he was going to bid on the seer? I don't see why he would suggest that he obtained the seer at night, once he got it.

The question is "why Lathum" for the Night 1 kill?
- did they see something suggesting he won the seer?
- did they see him as a threat going into Day 2?
- did they think that killing him would set up a chain reaction that was beneficial to them?
- did they think that they would profit directly from his death, via beneficiary?

I don't know the answer to this, but I'm leaning towards voting Saldana right now working on the "presumed beneficiary/get money" strategy.

[Alan T]

Rats, I guess this time, I'm stealing your post

[claphamsa]

gotta love simultainous posts.....

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Rats, I guess this time, I'm stealing your post

"Sometimes I wonder if anyone is actually reading what I post ..."

[hoopsguy]

VOTE SALDANA

[Alan T]

There are what? 5 votes outstanding, so unless someone blows money to vote another time (Something I don't see happening without some form of reveal happening in the next hour), all of the votes you have to work with Hoops is 4 others if you are going to try to steer things a different direction. Just something to consider, that in most games adding in additional candidates closer to the deadline can be problematic, in this game it can be difficult to get traction.

[Barkeep49]

Current tally:
Hoops – Chief (276)
Chief Rum – Alan (374)
Mauboy – Sndvls (388). Saldana (401), tyrith(411), clap (419)
Sndvls – Pass (394), mauboy (396),
Clap – path(406), The Jackal (417)
Saldana – Schmidty (414), hoopsguy (428)

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

The question is "why Lathum" for the Night 1 kill?
- did they see something suggesting he won the seer?
- did they see him as a threat going into Day 2?
- did they think that killing him would set up a chain reaction that was beneficial to them?
- did they think that they would profit directly from his death, via beneficiary?

I don't know the answer to this, but I'm leaning towards voting Saldana right now working on the "presumed beneficiary/get money" strategy.

I don't see how your first two bullet points could be true. For the third, the only chain reaction I can see is something to do with me and Tyrith, but I can see Lathum's death being used as an argument for or against both of us. The last one is interesting, but you're probably in a better position than all of us to evaluate it.

[Alan T]

I think this is the current vote count:
Hoops – Chief (276)
Chief Rum – Alan (374)
Mauboy – Sndvls (388). Saldana (401), tyrith(411), Claphasma (419)
Sndvls – Pass (394), mauboy (396)
Clap – path(406), Jackal (417)
Saldana - Hoopsguy (428)


No votes yet: Render (voted for Cronin but I don't think Cronin is playing), Arles, Mr.Wednesday, DaddyTorgo


Not sure if Render was just playing earlier or seriously thinks Cronin was playing and isn't going to be back..

[Alan T]

oh woops, missed Schmidty's vote. That changes things then.. It makes Saldana a viable candidate. I was getting a bit curious where Hoops was going, if it was a statement vote more than anything else. My bad, just missed his vote there.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Alan T

There are what? 5 votes outstanding, so unless someone blows money to vote another time (Something I don't see happening without some form of reveal happening in the next hour), all of the votes you have to work with Hoops is 4 others if you are going to try to steer things a different direction. Just something to consider, that in most games adding in additional candidates closer to the deadline can be problematic, in this game it can be difficult to get traction.

But remember, if hoops feels strongly enough about something, he can make it more of a race by voting more times, and in the process making himself a less appealing conversion target. I don't know if either of those are particularly good plays (at least today - but it might be an avenue worth exploring at some point).

[hoopsguy]

I believe there are now four votes outstanding. But I wasn't going to vote for Mauboy (didn't understand the logic on him at all). From there, I guess I could have jumped on SnDvls or Clap instead of Saldana (or Rum) but I had an argument constructed in my head.

If nothing else, I'm OK leaving food for thought for someone purchasing the seer.

[hoopsguy]

I dont' think that I'm going to double-vote today - I'm not that sold on the argument relative to any other players at this stage.

If it ends up tied at the deadline maybe I would try to be an Internet Hero, but even then probably not ...

[Alan T]

I am going to feel a bit uneasy about anyone who double votes today without a solid reason.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

The third quote is an answer to a question, appearing in Post #78. The first two quotes are in the rules.

If you asked me before the game to try and guess who people would name as their beneficiary, I would have guessed Lathum names Saldana. I'm wondering if the wolf team - with Saldana among their membership - would have thought along the same lines?

Is it thin? Yeah, probably. But no thinner than my thoughts on Passacaglia and Tyrith coming into today.

dont you think that might have been a bit obvious....i intentionally did NOT name lathum as mine just because of that reasoning in case he was a wolf.

the fact that lathum was the night kill is actually one of the reasons i voted for Mauboy1....he is relatively new, at least new enough that i never played with him, so he may not know the value of keeping the best wolf around in the game.

if i were a wolf, i would (and have) kept lathum around for ages...he gets more heat than that off topic thread with the prego chick with the giant cans (see Hell Atlantic's post)

[saldana]

dola, what i was saying in my second point above is:

i think we have a group of cutthroats that may be without a long time player.

[hoopsguy]

I strangely find myself returning to that thread now that you mention it.

[DaddyTorgo]

well I have a vote and I have no idea where to go with it...

[Alan T]

Prego chick with giant cans? I think I missed that one.

[hoopsguy]

The MILF thread.

[Alan T]

I don't think I know who that woman even is.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I don't think I know who that woman even is.

i didnt honestly care what her name was.

[claphamsa]

christina aguilera?

[Lathum]

Is that who that is?

[claphamsa]

yep, apparnetly she just had a kid....

[hoopsguy]

Hmm, is everyone else either scoping out Christina Aguilera or watching Duke/NC game? Not much in-game conversation going on at the moment.

Which I guess is OK, but we do have a vote in the balance with 40 minutes to deadline.

[Alan T]

Im actually in bed with my laptop.. feel a bit under the weather, so I'm watching "A moment of truth" with the wife.