Survivor: Lupus Tribal Thread

[KWhit]

So this:

I can help with something else.

Yes or no?

Does that refer to you helping us with our bidding?

[KWhit]

There also could possibly be more than one wolf per tribe if more than one volunteered

Does this mean that YOU (SWAGGS) VOLUNTEERED?

[Blade6119]

What can you help us with swaggs?

[KWhit]

Swaggs - do you know the identity of a wolf?

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

What can you help us with swaggs?

Has to be a y/n question.

[KWhit]

Do you know who volunteered?

[Blade6119]

Do you know a wolf?

Do you know more about this challenge then everyone else?

[KWhit]

Would you say that your help in the challenge would be of significant value - above and beyond what a 'normal' person would be able to do?

[Blade6119]

Can you communicate you help to us in a way the other tribes wont see it and be helped too?

[Blade6119]

Kwhit, can i order you to post in this thread?

Kwhit, can i order you to be able to PM?

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Kwhit, can i order you to post in this thread?

Kwhit, can i order you to be able to PM?

huh?

[KWhit]

So swaggs, it sounds like you're saying that you can help us in the challenge today, but you have no real insider info that could give us a boost. Is that correct?

[Blade6119]

Can you communicate via AIM?

Is all this work worth the effort im expending?

[KWhit]

Do you have any "inside" information about ANY subject that we need to try to get out of you today?

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Can you communicate via AIM?

Is all this work worth the effort im expending?

I'm thinking not.

[Blade6119]

Im voting swaggs today...i just wasted two hours i could have been doing the challenge to learn that he has absolutely nothing to offer us...

[KWhit]

Okay. So he can't post in this thread. That's about it.

[Blade6119]

Ill be back later in the day...i have to go take a test...my vote is already in

[KWhit]

So we need to start thinking about a bidding strategy. I'm going to be unavailable tonight from about 4pm on until at least 8 or so (maybe later).

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Welcome everyone to our next Reward and Immunity Challenge. I think you'll notice that Tyrith has suddenly morphed into SnDvls. We're not quite sure how this happened, but we do welcome SnDvls to the mix.


When you are the bodyguard or a wolf there is a question of psychology. Who do you guard that night? Who should you attack? The most obvious person? But if they're so obvious does that really make them not obvious? And on and on this game of psychology can go.

Well today you all will be asking yourselves something similar. Each tribe is being allocated $29. Your goal as a tribe is to get the most points. There are 15 "places" you can bid on with different points. Those places are
A. Greater Werewolvia - 33
B. Middle Werewolvia - 14
C. Lesser Werewolvia - 20
D. Fleabit Cove - 11
E. Dogbonia - 10
F. Dog Ear - 12
G. Homidia - 15
H. Lupinia - 16
I. Garouvia - 25
J. North Canis - 17
K. Lake Wolfsbane - 18
L. South Canis - 29
M. Lower Fang - 23
N. Upper Fang -21
O. Alpovia - 13

Each tribe may spend some of their money bidding on a place. The highest bid wins. Tribes should submit to me their list of bids for each of the places by 10 PM today. The tribe with the most points will win the challenge, while the tribe with the fewest will head to tribal council.

Since information is life in this game the winning tribe will gain some new information. Each player on the winning tribe will get to ask, via PM, one of the following questions:
How many wolves are on tribe X?
How many wolves are in the game?
Does player X have an idol?
What was the vote total of tribe council for Tribe X? (For Lupus must chose one of their two tribal councils)
What will be the reward at tomorrow's challenge?

Survivors ready? GO!

Here's the post for reference.

[Abe Sargent]

There's only four teams, so it's very possible that some cities won't get much of a bid at all. Do you expect some team to bi at least one on each of them? We could bid two on every one except one where we bid one (or none and add that dollar to one of them, to raise the bid to three)

-Anxiety

[KWhit]

I'd worry that we might lose on all of them if we did that. Seems to me that this is just going to be dumb luck.

[Abe Sargent]

Well, I expect some team to do this:

Team A -
Bid one on every thing, bid higher amounts on ones that matter more

Team B -
Bid almost exclusively on many of the middle level ones

Team C - Bid a decent amount on some of the higher ones and try to pick up a few smaller ones as well to supplement

The "two per" strategy overraises strategy one, and if there is no strategy one then we pick up all of the unbidded things. Remember, there are 15 lots and just four teams. Each team should average around four lots each. the "two per" strategy could net us five or six lots, with a possibility for a lot more if one or more teams implement the Team A Strategy.


Remember too, this competition gets to ask one question of BK and that's it. It'd be nice, but we're not chasing immunity or idols or a seer or dodging a vote off or anything.

-Anxiety

[Blade6119]

Well, wed be one short of the bidding 2 on all...the problem is i dont think we will overcome to top teams in doing so. Though we very well might, depending on how spread out they are...

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Remember too, this competition gets to ask one question of BK and that's it. It'd be nice, but we're not chasing immunity or idols or a seer or dodging a vote off or anything.

-Anxiety

This is an immunity challenge too.

[KWhit]

Okay. How about something like this:


$0 A. Greater Werewolvia - 33
$2 B. Middle Werewolvia - 14
$3 C. Lesser Werewolvia - 20
$2 D. Fleabit Cove - 11
$2 E. Dogbonia - 10
$2 F. Dog Ear - 12
$2 G. Homidia - 15
$2 H. Lupinia - 16
$2 I. Garouvia - 25
$2 J. North Canis - 17
$2 K. Lake Wolfsbane - 18
$0 L. South Canis - 29
$3 M. Lower Fang - 23
$3 N. Upper Fang -21
$2 O. Alpovia - 13


I say we don't even go after the big one - let other teams chase it. I think teams may also focus on the 2nd highest item if they employ the same strategy that we are, so let's not even go after it either.

Then use our points to focus a little higher on the 2nd tier areas, but still have a ton of options so that we'll be bound to win (or tie) a few with 2 points on them.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by KWhit

This is an immunity challenge too.

I totally missed that. Thanks!

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Okay. How about something like this:


$0 A. Greater Werewolvia - 33
$2 B. Middle Werewolvia - 14
$3 C. Lesser Werewolvia - 20
$2 D. Fleabit Cove - 11
$2 E. Dogbonia - 10
$2 F. Dog Ear - 12
$2 G. Homidia - 15
$2 H. Lupinia - 16
$2 I. Garouvia - 25
$2 J. North Canis - 17
$2 K. Lake Wolfsbane - 18
$0 L. South Canis - 29
$3 M. Lower Fang - 23
$3 N. Upper Fang -21
$2 O. Alpovia - 13


I say we don't even go after the big one - let other teams chase it. I think teams may also focus on the 2nd highest item if they employ the same strategy that we are, so let's not even go after it either.

Then use our points to focus a little higher on the 2nd tier areas, but still have a ton of options so that we'll be bound to win (or tie) a few with 2 points on them.

Good points. If we are going to do this strategy, I think this is the best submission. In other news, I have my staff meeting in a few minutes, so this is the last post from me for a while. good luck!

[Blade6119]

Im fine with that strat...were basically banking on the top teams all going for the big dogs, or at least all concentrating on a few, and us picking up all the scraps

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Remember too, this competition gets to ask one question of BK and that's it.

Each member of the winning team gets to ask one...so while we would get less then others, we would still get more then 1

[Blade6119]

All 3 that matter(swaggs isnt going to help) have agreed, can we submit it now?

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

All 3 that matter(swaggs isnt going to help) have agreed, can we submit it now?

Sure. I'll go ahead and send in the PM.

[KWhit]

PM sent to Barkeep. Cross your fingers.

[Blade6119]

I hope you all understand why i lied about giving the idols to the team with the seer. That way, they dont go after the seer out of fear, and if they do attack us we have a 2/3 chance of them hitting an idol(unless whoever gets voted off had one)

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

I hope you all understand why i lied about giving the idols to the team with the seer. That way, they dont go after the seer out of fear, and if they do attack us we have a 2/3 chance of them hitting an idol(unless whoever gets voted off had one)

Dude,

I'm just afraid it's going to come back and bite us in the ass when they find out you lied about it.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Dude,

I'm just afraid it's going to come back and bite us in the ass when they find out you lied about it.

If it does, blame it all on me...i didnt distribute the idols, so i cant really be accused of giving them to just wolves or something. Thats the reason i wanted us all to have a hand in it, so we could all back-up each others stories if push comes to shove

[Abe Sargent]

Okay folks, in a few minutes, the votes will be tallied, and I want to be totally up front on who I voted for and why. Swaggs I voted for you early, and here's why:

#1 - Of the four remaining players, the other two have a greater degree of availability than you do on a nomral day. If it's just three of us going it for a while, that'll be valuable.

#2 - I think they have the idols, based on what was said in the thread, so I'd prefer to vote for a non-idol person.


-Anxiety

[KWhit]

So is anybody voting on anyone based on whether you think they're a wolf or not???

Swaggs, you said you think Blade is a wolf. Anyone else have any suspicions at this point? That's who we should be voting for.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by KWhit

So is anybody voting on anyone based on whether you think they're a wolf or not???

If they are, announcing it to everyone in the thread(and the suspected wolf), wouldnt be wise with a wolf kill tonight coming

[KWhit]

Unless we can pool our votes and get him out before he kills one of us.

[KWhit]

Hey Anxiety. You around?

[Abe Sargent]

yeah

[KWhit]

Ok. Here's what I think we need to do.

I hate it, but I think we need to vote for Blade tonight. I hate the position he put the whole team in when he lied about giving the idols to the team with the seer.

[KWhit]

I unvoted swaggs and voted blade. You can do that. I confirmed it with BK.

[KWhit]

Blade, I hate to do this. I thought you and I were going to have kind of an alliance from some earlier comments in the thread. But you put us in danger tonight.

[KWhit]

Anxiety, are you there?

[KWhit]

I have no idea if Swaggs is good or bad (and no idea really about Blade either).

[KWhit]

But they are going to find out that we STILL have the idols tonight by asking the questions. One of the questions they can ask is who has the idols!

[Abe Sargent]

Okay, I'll follow.

[KWhit]

So whoever wins the challenge is going to know that Blade lied. I'd rather distance ourselves from him now rather than wait.

[KWhit]

Okay. Sorry Blade.