LXXVIII: Politicus Lupus (GAME OVER!! SEE POST #2593 FOR RESULTS)

[claphamsa]

VOTE YES NATIONAL WOLF DISCOVERY BILL

while i cannont condone the watered down version of the bill subited before you It is a step in the right direction, and we can proced with making it better, and more securty consious later. also I think it is important to see who woudl gain from not passing this bill, only wolves, and take a look at allt he no votes tommrmoe!

[Lathum]

VOTE NO NATIONAL WOLF DISCOVERY BILL

I must back the wishes of my district.

[RendeR]

OK, I may well lose my internet connection shortly so if that happens I'll be out till I can get within range of another wireless.

[oliegirl]

Whew. Caught up.

I hope CR doesn't mind but I assigned myself a color. Thanks to those of you that have been including me on PM's today...I am back from vacation and will be around during the days from this point forward. When CR can't be on at night I will be available to field questions and help out as needed. Please make sure you cc me on any PM's or emails to CR from this point forward.

[Chubby]

Picked up dinner and about to watch Vantage Point on bluray. All my votes are in, will check back in after the movie

[path12]

Originally Posted by Chubby

Picked up dinner and about to watch Vantage Point on bluray. All my votes are in, will check back in after the movie

Just saw that last week. Not bad.

[EagleFan]

The nation should thank my fellow democrats who demanded that the bill not violate the constitution. We are truly the party that is looking out for the average citizen. In this new state I am still a little uncomfortable with the survival rate but will hopefully not upset my constituants too much by:

vote yes on Discovery Bill

[EagleFan]

Thank you to the members of the Republican party who were wise enough to listen to our good judgement and knowledge of the constitution to allow for new bill to be written. It is good to know that some of those on the other side of the aisle understand logic and reason. Now if they can just teach that to their leadership.

[DaddyTorgo]

hey all - msg from RendeR via IM

RendeR18 (8:16:39 PM): Hey bud, my internet is all bt gone tonight due to rewiring here at wirk, pop into the main political WW game thread and let folks know I'll be out till after 10-ish please?
DaddyTorgo (8:16:57 PM): yeah
DaddyTorgo (8:16:58 PM): absolutely

[DaddyTorgo]

RendeR18 (8:17:37 PM): for some reason this works but I can't get a browser conection for shit

[Chief Rum]

All right everyone. I am home and catching up. Deadline in 40 minutes.

[Chief Rum]

Oh, and if anyone absolutely needs anything addressed right now before deadline, please post it here (or re-post it). I probably won't be able to review the entire thread (or the party threads) until after the deadline, since I am preparing for the deadline itself. If it is a party sensitive issue, please post here that your attention is needed in Post #XXX in the (Your Party) thread, and I will go take a look. Thanks!

[Mrs. Schmidty]

I just got home and am madly trying to get caught up! Anyone have a quick synopsis and vote count? I would like to read it all, but won't have time before deadline - still going to read it though for reference!

[PackerFanatic]

Not much was discussed in here, Mrs. Schmidty. Both parties have submitted a bill, the dems went over a little more well than the repubs, mainly because the repubs got re-submitted after many felt it would be shot down by the Courts. We have also been voting on a Speaker and if I am not mistaken, Chubby is in the lead on that (St. Cronin is the other candidate)

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

Chiefe RUM

Just to confirm, only the party leaders can propose bills? but anyone can introduce a candidate?

Only the leaders and the Speaker may propose a Bill. It's also the Leaders' designees, so their Whip can propose a bill in their stead.

Today I allowed Pass to propose the amendment because we don't have a Speaker and neither the Leader nor the Whip for his party were certain to be around. I am considering changing this rule for simplicity's sake, so long as people don't abuse it. Stay tuned, more on that after deadline.

[henry296]

I think both votes have enough votes to pass already. Do we have a count on the revised republican bill.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

CR

Alos do we include in the bill who will get the rolls? or is it decided byt he leader? or is it random?

KTHXBAI

I believe I addressed this in an email, so please let me know if my response was not addressed publically.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

Thanks Packer!

[chesapeake]

Originally Posted by henry296

I think both votes have enough votes to pass already. Do we have a count on the revised republican bill.

I'm not entirely sure the GOP bill as revised has the ten votes it needs to pass quite yet. It has to be close to doing so, however. Assuming that you don't care about the Fourth Amendment -- and if you are a Republican, you surely don't -- you should probably get a vote in pronto.

[chesapeake]

I should note that the GOP bill has a majority of votes cast, but not necessarily a majority of the entire chamber.

[henry296]

I've got 11 votes for the Discovery Bill including Chubby, Packer and myself crossing over to support the bill.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by henry296

I've got 11 votes for the Discovery Bill including Chubby, Packer and myself crossing over to support the bill.

I can't even get recognition in my own party?

[Chief Rum]

Deadline

[Chief Rum]

Just about finished tallying votes, and checking vote validity.

[Tyrith]

Back, caught up, happy with how things went although sad that I won't get a vote pickup for the seer bill.

[Chief Rum]

Does it appear that the following is a correct tally?

Speaker Vote

st.cronin (8)-- Mrs. Schmidty-R (170), st.cronin-R (235), PurdueBrad-R (237), Tyrith-R (249), illinifan999-R (250), claphamsa-R (260), Render-R (308), Passacaglia-R (377)
Chubby (10)-- Chubby-D (199), chesapeake-D (226), EagleFan-D (231), Lathum-D (234), mccollins-D (242), PackerFanatic-D (243), KWhit-D (244), path12-D (324), henry296-D (347), jeheinz72-R (352)

National Security Bill (Type #1)--DEMOCRAT SPONSORED

Pass (14)-- KWhit-D (239), mccollins-D (242), PackerFanatic-D (245), Chubby-D (246), EagleFan-D (247), illinifan999-R (250), chesapeake-D (252), Lathum-D (255), claphamsa-R (260), PurdueBrad-R (261), jeheinz72-R (262), Render-R (308), path12-D (324), henry296-D (347)
Fail (2)-- Tyrith-R (269), Passacaglia-R (331)

National Wolf Discovery Bill--REPUBLICAN SPONSORED (VOIDED BY AMENDMENT)

Pass (9)-- Tyrith-R (269), illinifan999-R (270), Passacaglia-R (272), jeheinz72-R (275), Chubby-D (277), claphamsa-R (287), PurdueBrad-R (295), Render-R (308), henry296-D (347)
Fail (4)-- KWhit-D (276), mccollins-D (279), chesapeake-D (310), Lathum-D (328)

National Wolf Discovery Bill (amended, 1st)-- REPUBLICAN SPONSORED

Pass (11)-- Passacaglia-R (377), henry296-D (381), Render-R (382), PackerFanatic-D (383), Chubby-D (385), illinifan999-R (388), jeheinz72-R (390), path12-D (397), PurdueBrad-R (400), claphamsa-R (401), Eaglefan-D (407)
Fail (4)-- KWhit-D (392), chesapeake-D (396), mccollins-D (398), Lathum-D (402)

[Chief Rum]

BTW, if anyone can tell me what the HTML tag for a strikethrough line is, so I can show the unamended bill and strike it out, I would appreciate it. I couldn't find it.

[PackerFanatic]

At a quick glance, looks pretty good to me. Glad that we had almost everyone vote for everything.

[Chief Rum]

Assuming the counts above are accurate, all three standing votes meet quorum, and their results will stand.

[Tyrith]

The numbers match mine, CR, as do the the no votes on the passed bills. I do not have stats for the voided bill, though.

[Chief Rum]

Writing everything up. Gimme five minutes. If someone could PM me the Republican Presidential candidate, I would appreciate it. I haven't gotten the chance to entirely read the thread (if you announced it there).

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

The numbers match mine, CR, as do the the no votes on the passed bills. I do not have stats for the voided bill, though.

Awesome. Thanks!

[laxjunkie62]

Originally Posted by Chubby

Picked up dinner and about to watch Vantage Point on bluray. All my votes are in, will check back in after the movie

Don't waste your time, the movie was terrible, imo

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by laxjunkie62

Don't waste your time, the movie was terrible, imo

I didn't think it was bad. We had the one bad guy pegged 5 mins in tho.

[laxjunkie62]

Originally Posted by Chubby

I didn't think it was bad. We had the one bad guy pegged 5 mins in tho.

I just got sick of watching the same scene for most of the movie, i understand that was the premis, but it also seemed to just abruptly end. I thought there was a lot more that they could have done with it.

[Chief Rum]

The first term of Congress since the new guard moved in was an adventurous one, as new Congressmen and Congresswomen got a handle on the jobs expecte dof them by their faithful constituents.

The role of the Speaker of the House, normally a role of no small import, became even more important, when former President Chief Rum and Vice President oliegirl both resigned to join the German National Olympic team for basketball, saying, "Hell, if Chris Kaman can do it..."

That left a vacancy in the country's top post and the next Speaker would have to be the one to fill the void until next year's Presidential election.

There was an early push for Rep. Chubby (D) of the 11th District before partisan voting brought Rep. st.cronin (R) of the 5th District close. Alas, it was too late, as the Republicans watched one of their own, Rep. jeheinz72 of the 9th District (regarded by some as almost a Dem himself) put the deciding vote in for Chubby.

Chubby is the Speaker of the House for the current term.

Chubby will have an immediate job to do. As the acting President for the next year, his sole responsiblity will be to sign the bills that appear on his desk, and Congress did not wait long to give him some work.

Two bills, the Wolf National Security Act and the National Wolf Discovery Act, were passed. The security act will establish a role to protect important government employees from Wolf influence, while the discovery act will form an investigative arm whose sole purpose is to root out members of the Wolf Party.

Unfortunately, the Security Act has a rider clause in it, known as the cunning clause. It allows a member of the Wolf Party to claim confidentiality rights from all investigative arms established by the government.

Chubby will need to decide whether to sign the bills into law by the end of the night cycle.

In other news, the parties are preparing to announce their Presidential candidates for Year Two...

[Chief Rum]

Presidential candidates to be announced shortly (officially, if they haven't been already).

I am also going to send out PMs to everyone shortly regarding their political style and perception.

Other than Chubby's decisions, there are no matters to currently consider until the day cycle tomorrow. The wolves do NOT get a kill tonight.

[Tyrith]

Sigh, we probably should eat the cunning rider and take the BG bill. Pretty much unavoidable.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Sigh, we probably should eat the cunning rider and take the BG bill. Pretty much unavoidable.

the BG bill is the one with the rider..

Democrats feck everythign up!

[henry296]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I can't even get recognition in my own party?

Sorry about that

Still learning who is on what side, plus I was focused I know that the three of us were going to vote for it.

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

the BG bill is the one with the rider..

Democrats feck everythign up!

Funny, even though ANYONE could put that rider on (including a republican)

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Funny, even though ANYONE could put that rider on (including a republican)

its youer bill! therefoe it is YOUR fault!

dman hippy!

[Chief Rum]

Welcome to the Year Two Presidential Candidate Race!

The country is ripe for the taking, according to both parties, and they have both aimed to take control with next year's general election of the next President of the United States.

The Dems announced their candidate first, selecting Congressman PackerFanatic of the 12th District to run for them. PackerFanatic is a well-regarded centrist-leaning Democrat who should appeal to some Republicans close to the other side of the aisle as well.

The Repubs were quick to respond, naming Congressman illinifan999 of the 7th District as their candidate. illinifan999 is one of the more popular Republican politicians who leans toward the center, similarly to PackerFanatic.

The battle for the middle ground should be fierce, as both candidates fight over voters they both may claim as their own, while trying to appease the more fringe elements of their own parties who may despair at the choice of a candidate whose views do not match their own so well.

In early media polling, illinifan999 holds a slight edge over PackerFanatic, but pollsters also said there were a large percentage of undecided voters, and that most said they had yet to really take in and consider the actions of the new Congress in the first term, or of the presidential candidates themselves.

THE NIGHT CYCLE FOR DAY ONE HAS BEGUN. DEADLINE IS 4 A.M. PDT (7 A.M. EST)

Individual PMs still to come.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

BTW, if anyone can tell me what the HTML tag for a strikethrough line is, so I can show the unamended bill and strike it out, I would appreciate it. I couldn't find it.

It is < s > < / s > without the spaces.

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Unfortunately, the Security Act has a rider clause in it, known as the cunning clause. It allows a member of the Wolf Party to claim confidentiality rights from all investigative arms established by the government.

Am I correct to assume this means ANY investigations into them (from any other role that might be established as well, including the seer established from the other role)?

[Tyrith]

"any information role" per the rules.

[PackerFanatic]

Okay, I get it - I guess I was just a little thrown to start that it was a rider on the Security Bill, while it affects the Discovery Bill. I got it now

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by Chubby

I didn't think it was bad. We had the one bad guy pegged 5 mins in tho.

DITTO!!! Decent enough movie though.

[claphamsa]

How could any god fearing AMERICAN suport that hippy PF?

I mean look what a hash he made of the first bit of legislation for his party! a WOLF rider!!

I also feel that his signautre is insulting and disrespectful of a respected member of conress! DISPICABLE!

Furthermore I have it on good word that he does not display a mauled wolf belt next to his american flag!!! does he support werewolves? this failure to show proper anti wolf feelings is very disturbing ot me!

Someone call the NRA!

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

its youer bill! therefoe it is YOUR fault!

dman hippy!

I can't wait to hear what your constituents have to say about you voting for our super liberal bill