Werewolf LXX Pleasure Cruise - (GAME OVER)

[The Jackal]

To clarify, I never really felt "good" about my vote for clap, but at the time CR's explanation behind his vote seemed legitimate and any other vote I would've cast would've been grasping for straws. And I couldn't get back to the thread until now, otherwise I might've seriously considered switching to SY, if only for him saying he was at the ruins as that is definitely an easy way to blend in when none of us saw each other.

Hopefully the late switching nailed someone bad.

[The Jackal]

I'd say hoops should only be under suspicion for that late vote if clap turns up bad at some point. I'm going off the assumption that clap was saved by these late switches, which I think is what the vote count turned out.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by mccollins

Ok, I went back through and tallied up where everyone went and who had not stated where they went. I'll post my thoughts in a follow-up post.

1) The Jackal - MAYAN RUINS
2) Nfg22 - SNORKELING (1 of 2, found necklace, wearing it)
3) Path12 - BEACH, no options, didn't make it back on boat
4) jeheinz72 - JEEP SAFARI (1 of 3)
5) Barkeep49 - CANOE (1 of 2)
7) Lathum - "drank alot" on FIESTA BOAT PARTY
8) claphasma - "got drunk on the BEACH"
9) Passacaglia - MAYAN RUINS
10) St.Cronin - "I've been known to experiment (with drugs)" on FIESTA BOAT PARTY
11) Hoopsguy - SHOPPING
12) PurdueBrad - CANOE (1 of 2)
13) Raiders Army - MARINE PARK (not alone)
14) oliegirl - SHOPPING
15) Sonic Youth - asked if we could vote for Path (or the shark)
16) ntndeacon - MARINE PARK
17) mccollins - MAYAN RUINS
18) Chief Rum - JEEP SAFARI (1 of 3)
19) Qwikshot - JEEP SAFARI (1 of 3)
20) TazFTW - SHOPPING
21) Anxiety - SNORKELING ("only one other there")
6) Swaggs - "This applies to me, as well" in re: to having choices as mentioned by Cronin. FIESTA BOAT PARTY
22) Kwhit - MAYAN RUINS

Trying to find where some concentric circles might be and the only thing I can come up with is that hoops and Taz (who were both shopping...along with oliegirl) were both on near the end. While hoops changed his vote, Taz unvoted me and didn't vote for anyone. Is there collusion? Possibly, but this is still pretty weak evidence.

[The Jackal]

The amount of wrinkles in this game is threatening, it's going to make early vote history tough to use if some of the wolves aren't even wolves at this point (which I really believe to be the truth).

[mccollins]

Wow! What a final flurry. Lots of suspicious timing of votes there!

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I'd say this:

Obviously hoops is on the suspicion list for the late minute switch.

I'd also consider the following since they didn't even vote:

nfg22
st. cronin
TazFTW
KWhit

nfg has that necklace on - has there ever been an item that prevented voting?
Cronin had suspicion and votes on him - could the drugs have kept him quiet?
FWIW, Taz voted and unvoted, but you're right he didn't leave a vote.
KWhit was around for some discussion - interesting non-vote.

Is that the complete list of non-voters?

[Raiders Army]

From what I can tell, that's the complete list of non-voters with the exception of path, who we believe is out of the game.

[The Jackal]

Maybe path drank some invisibility juice.

[mccollins]

I looked this up from the first posts of the thread:

The tiebreaker for votes is unannounced to start in this game, as is the determination for what is required to "win a vote" The only thing I will state in the rules is that getting votes for yourself is not in your best interests. All votes must occur during the appropriate gameplay turn or they are void and do not count. For scheduling issues where you simply can not be available during that gameplay turn, please PM me and we can work out some form of conditional vote that can be made.

[Alan T]

The captain walks up to the gates, preparing to allow everyone to unboard the ship for the day. Before he unlocks the gates, he speaks over the intercom system so all can hear...

Thank you to those whom came to me and presented some concerns about your fellow passengers. I realize that many of you brought forth some valid points, however at this time there was no passenger that received enough of an arguement for me to be swayed today. I will not be kicking anyone off of the ship.

Enjoy Cozumel today, as we will leave after today for our next destination!

Voting phase 1 has ended. All of you should have received PMs. If anyone did not receive a Pm, please let me know. Any PMs that require an event response must be in by 10pm EST tonight.

[TazFTW]

Claphamsa
Sonic Youth
Costanza
Uncouth
Can't stand ya
Vermouth

[PurdueBrad]

Wow, so basically a no lynch.

[Raiders Army]

Well, I went to the beach. There were other people there, but nobody was mentioned by name. I have no actions that require an event.

[The Jackal]

Interesting.

Well, in the spirit of being honest, I went snorkeling today. Saw a lot of people I didn't recognize (locals, other tourists, I assume), but I also saw Clap and Pass. Nothing eventful happened, and I wasn't given any choices. Just a nice, relaxing swim. Similar for you two?

I realize there were some concerns about revealing names of people at your location but it seemes that there was an overall movement towards that yesterday so as to try and nail someone who might be lying.

[Abe Sargent]

I went shopping today and learned something interesting about another person.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Interesting.

Well, in the spirit of being honest, I went snorkeling today. Saw a lot of people I didn't recognize (locals, other tourists, I assume), but I also saw Clap and Pass. Nothing eventful happened, and I wasn't given any choices. Just a nice, relaxing swim. Similar for you two?

I realize there were some concerns about revealing names of people at your location but it seemes that there was an overall movement towards that yesterday so as to try and nail someone who might be lying.

That matches what happened to me. I saw Jackal and clap.

[The Jackal]

Back to working, I'll check in on the thread later.

[jeheinz72]

I went to the ruins, which were evidently very popular still (which is strange, I went there IRL and it was near empty).

Nothing to report

[path12]

Well, quite a night. I fell asleep at the beach and by the time I woke up and made my way back to the ship it was locked for the night. I spent the night on a park bench, and other than getting stinky nothing else happened.

I'm back on the ship since I wasn't able to choose an excursion for the day. Just as well, I don't want to be left behind again.......now, a shower and heading to the nearest bar, I need a drink. Badly.

[Passacaglia]

10 people on -- I love the afternoon deadline.

[Raiders Army]

Oh, and I decided to go to the beach to see if I could find path. Nothing there.

[path12]

Here I am!

[mccollins]

I went swimming with the dolphins in the Marine Park.
People were there, but no one mentioned by name and no events to respond to.

[TazFTW]

Told ya path would be back
Whether that is good has yet to be decided
What is our next plan of attack
I hate to be this divided

[KWhit]

Ack - sorry for the missed vote guys. Got called into a LONG ass meeting unexpectedly and missed 3:00.

[Barkeep49]

Wow I didn't think you'd be coming back path. I too went to the beach today.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Wow I didn't think you'd be coming back path. I too went to the beach today.

I know. I felt kinda bad seeing clap be a fall guy for my carelessness, though I can't vouch for him or anyone else.

[Sonic Youth]

It's half time. Man I'm hating this deadline time. The only reason I'm up is a football match.

[Raiders Army]

Welcome back path!

On a side note, Alan: I assume because there are no prices associated with the excursions that they're free, correct? So I still have $500?

[PurdueBrad]

Lots of us on the beach although I didn't get any names of people, just lots of beautiful women. Sadly, I didn't get their names either.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Welcome back path!

On a side note, Alan: I assume because there are no prices associated with the excursions that they're free, correct? So I still have $500?

You will be told if your actions cost any kind of money, so if you have not had that happen you can safely assume you still have all of your money.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by Alan T

You will be told if your actions cost any kind of money, so if you have not had that happen you can safely assume you still have all of your money.

I would like to take mine to the casino then and see if I can turn it into more!

[Raiders Army]

Okay. Thanks!

[Sonic Youth]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

I went shopping today and learned something interesting about another person.

So did I. I didn't see you though.

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by Sonic Youth

It's half time. Man I'm hating this deadline time. The only reason I'm up is a football match.

OOC: Where are you?

[path12]

Originally Posted by TazFTW

Told ya path would be back
Whether that is good has yet to be decided
What is our next plan of attack
I hate to be this divided

I'm glad I don't have whatever you've got. I don't remember you saying I'd be back, but I'll go back and check rather than make you compose another sonnet.

[path12]

Originally Posted by TazFTW

I think it is most likely that path12 is not dead
That would be a crappy way to start a game
He must be on some mission to get ahead
Hopefully it is not something lame.

OK, I found it.

[Barkeep49]

So my thought is we need 50%+1 to lynch anyone. Thoughts?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

So my thought is we need 50%+1 to lynch anyone. Thoughts?

I was thinking that as well, but if so, why have a tiebreaker?

My hunch is that Sonic had, or found, a "get out of lynch free" card.

[hoopsguy]

Couple of thoughts:

1.) I'm pretty sure I didn't tie the vote, as several people have speculated. Although I'm not afraid of tying up a vote, and would have been willing to do so this time, the numbers look like 8-6 to me with me avoiding a tie with my vote. Am I missing something?

2.) Busy day at work + unfamiliar cycles for me (3PM + 10PM deadlines) mean that I didn't submit an action today. So I'm cupping the bishop on the boat instead of getting out and looking at anything. Time will tell if that has any kind of impact, but I'll put it out there so people can use it as a data point later in the game.

BK - why 50%+1 instead of 50%? Otherwise, I think that guess is as good as any.

[path12]

It might also be that a tie could be a no lynch at times or a lynch at others depending on the circumstances.

Since we likely won't find out what those circumstance might be though it doesn't seem to be in our best interest to tie a vote up again.

[path12]

hoops, I think ntn switched back to clap late and then your vote tied it again.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Welcome back path!

On a side note, Alan: I assume because there are no prices associated with the excursions that they're free, correct? So I still have $500?

when were you told you have $500?

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Interesting.

Well, in the spirit of being honest, I went snorkeling today. Saw a lot of people I didn't recognize (locals, other tourists, I assume), but I also saw Clap and Pass. Nothing eventful happened, and I wasn't given any choices. Just a nice, relaxing swim. Similar for you two?

I realize there were some concerns about revealing names of people at your location but it seemes that there was an overall movement towards that yesterday so as to try and nail someone who might be lying.

I can confirm what Jakyl says about the beach.

[Lathum]

I also stayed on the boat today, I was to hungover from the day before to do much

[claphamsa]

I alive woo hoo.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Lathum

when were you told you have $500?

Its in the rules that everyone started with $500. I originally had it set to $100, but changed it to $500 because of some possible events at places in this game. Some of my events might not have been appropriately changed though, and in cases where I caught, I hand edited them.

If anyone had any PM stating they started with $100 instead of $500, that PM is a mistake, and your running total should still be as if you started with $500.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Lathum

when were you told you have $500?

You didn't know how much money you had?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Its in the rules that everyone started with $500. I originally had it set to $100, but changed it to $500 because of some possible events at places in this game. Some of my events might not have been appropriately changed though, and in cases where I caught, I hand edited them.

If anyone had any PM stating they started with $100 instead of $500, that PM is a mistake, and your running total should still be as if you started with $500.

my pm indicated otherwise

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

You didn't know how much money you had?

nope.

One of the questions I was asked day 0 was if I want to buy drugs for $100 ( all your money)

that was the only reference to how much money I had