Official 2010 NFL Draft thread- - Page 9

Tigercat · 04-22-2010, 10:15 PM

And Kiper was giving McShay such a hard time about McShay not being sold on Clausen's ability or him being picked in the first half of the first round... Now McShay is plenty of an idiot in his own right, but you think by now Kiper would have learned that his opinion isn't the end all be all, and not always shared by NFL scouts and coaches.

Cringer · 04-22-2010, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

Tebow has what looks like a douchebag of a posse around him.

wow, you stay classy san diego.

Swaggs · 04-22-2010, 10:15 PM

New England will still get Kindle or Dan Williams. Jerry Hughes might be worth a look, too.

I don't think you can be too unhappy with getting one of those two + adding picks.

DaddyTorgo · 04-22-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

And Kiper was giving McShay such a hard time about McShay not being sold on Clausen's ability or him being picked in the first half of the first round... Now McShay is plenty of an idiot in his own right, but you think by now Kiper would have learned that his opinion isn't the end all be all, and not always shared by NFL scouts and coaches.

Kiper has a seriously inflated opinion of himself and his opinions and he's uber-judgmental. It's annoying and I hope he dies.

DaddyTorgo · 04-22-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

New England will still get Kindle or Dan Williams. Jerry Hughes might be worth a look, too.

I don't think you can be too unhappy with getting one of those two + adding picks.

Dan Williams??

The last thing we need is another fucking NT. Enough with the defensive lineman...god.

cartman · 04-22-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Kiper has a seriously inflated opinion of himself and his opinions and he's uber-judgmental. It's annoying and I hope he dies.

So you are saying you won't yell at a 4 year old calling across a busy street for Mel Kiper?

k0ruptr · 04-22-2010, 10:17 PM

nice pick for Zona.

Noop · 04-22-2010, 10:17 PM

DAMN MAN I really wanted Dan Williams in Miami.

DaddyTorgo · 04-22-2010, 10:18 PM

PHEW

At least we can't end up with Williams now.

DaddyTorgo · 04-22-2010, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

So you are saying you won't yell at a 4 year old calling across a busy street for Mel Kiper?

true

Swaggs · 04-22-2010, 10:18 PM

Damn... When did Arizona become such a competently run franchise?

DaddyTorgo · 04-22-2010, 10:19 PM

here comes the Pats trading out of the first round

Tigercat · 04-22-2010, 10:20 PM

Its weird to have to wait this long for the Saints to make their pick and not be able to blame Mike Ditka for it.

Solecismic · 04-22-2010, 10:20 PM

I'd be fine with Kindle. Happy even. Odrick's the best value here, but LB is a bigger need.

gstelmack · 04-22-2010, 10:20 PM

Well, I take back part of what I said earlier. Merriweather and Mayo have been the Pats last two first round picks. Not much else from those drafts, and the jury is out on last year where they had no first, although Edelman was a nice late-round pick. But the trade-down strategy last year will take a season or two to know for sure:

RD	PLAYER	PK	POS	COLLEGE	NOTES
2a	Pat Chung	34	SS	Oregon
2b	Ron Brace	40	DT	Boston College
2c	Darius Butler	41	CB	Connecticut
2d	Sebastian Vollmer	58	OL	Houston
3a	Brandon Tate	83	WR	North Carolina
3b	Tyrone McKenzie	97	LB	South Florida
4	Rich Ohrnberger	123	OL	Penn State
5	George Bussey	170	OL	Louisville
6a	Jake Ingram	198	LS	Hawaii
6b	Myron Pryor	207	DT	Kentucky
7a	Julian Edelman	232	WR	Kent State
7b	Darryl Richard	234	DT	Georgia Tech

Thomkal · 04-22-2010, 10:21 PM

well I guess I don't have to be disappointed the Cards took a LB now...

MikeVic · 04-22-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Damn... When did Arizona become such a competently run franchise?

When they infused their team with so many Steelers.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 04-22-2010, 10:21 PM

Devin McCourty

DaddyTorgo · 04-22-2010, 10:22 PM

i think last year's draft will end up looking okay...it's just...i dunno...not really fun to watch when your team is making 12 picks in the 4th round of guys you've never heard of ya know?

TroyF · 04-22-2010, 10:22 PM

Well, I guess we'll see. I'd be lying if I said I liked the pick, the trade to get the pick or that we really needed another QB.

On the other side of it. . . this will be the defining move of McDaniels tenure in Denver. If it fails, he's gone in two years. If it works, we have a QB who is a hard worker and likely won't hold out for big contracts or screw twenty year olds in public restrooms. (note I said likely, who the hell knows for sure)

The difference between the Raiders and the Broncos is that this is all the head coach doing it. If he doesn't get it right, Bowlen will find someone he thinks can get it right. Rather than draft the fastest available idiot twenty years in a row.

Izulde · 04-22-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

DAMN MAN I really wanted Dan Williams in Miami.

+1 after the Marshall trade, but it's better than him going to the Patriots.

Solecismic · 04-22-2010, 10:22 PM

They're saying McCourty.

Cringer · 04-22-2010, 10:23 PM

Glad to hear Packer's Gm Thompson publicly say he doesn't like the change to the draft. I am not a big fan of this so far.

Galaril · 04-22-2010, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cringer

wow, you stay classy san diego.

But not a fat chick in the group it is like they cloned a bunch smoking hot broads.

k0ruptr · 04-22-2010, 10:24 PM

over wilson? hmm...

Swaggs · 04-22-2010, 10:24 PM

Props to Rutgers if it is McCourty.

If I am not mistaken, last season (Kenny Britt) was their first ever first rounder. Now they have two more.

DaddyTorgo · 04-22-2010, 10:24 PM

who the fuck is he? WTF???

stevew · 04-22-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

He seems like a good kid.

for me to poop on.

Swaggs · 04-22-2010, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

But not a fat chick in the group it is like they cloned a bunch smoking hot broads.

They are college girls from Florida.

DaddyTorgo · 04-22-2010, 10:25 PM

yeah...that was really worth all that trading down and leaving those other guys on the board (or so it seems).

Cringer · 04-22-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

They are college girls from Florida.

One was a 50 year old freshman then.

Solecismic · 04-22-2010, 10:26 PM

He'll nickel this year, return punts, dominate on special teams. In 2011, he should be a decent #2 corner. I'm OK with this.

JPhillips · 04-22-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

Well, I take back part of what I said earlier. Merriweather and Mayo have been the Pats last two first round picks. Not much else from those drafts, and the jury is out on last year where they had no first, although Edelman was a nice late-round pick. But the trade-down strategy last year will take a season or two to know for sure:

RD	PLAYER	PK	POS	COLLEGE	NOTES
2a	Pat Chung	34	SS	Oregon
2b	Ron Brace	40	DT	Boston College
2c	Darius Butler	41	CB	Connecticut
2d	Sebastian Vollmer	58	OL	Houston
3a	Brandon Tate	83	WR	North Carolina
3b	Tyrone McKenzie	97	LB	South Florida
4	Rich Ohrnberger	123	OL	Penn State
5	George Bussey	170	OL	Louisville
6a	Jake Ingram	198	LS	Hawaii
6b	Myron Pryor	207	DT	Kentucky
7a	Julian Edelman	232	WR	Kent State
7b	Darryl Richard	234	DT	Georgia Tech

I just don't see any reason to get 12 picks.

Izulde · 04-22-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

over wilson? hmm...

Yep that surprised me too. That said, I did have McCourty with a late first grade.

DaddyTorgo · 04-22-2010, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic

He'll nickel this year, return punts, dominate on special teams. In 2011, he should be a decent #2 corner. I'm OK with this.

As opposed to say Kindle who could be a starting OLB this year?

DaddyTorgo · 04-22-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

I just don't see any reason to get 12 picks.

quantity over quality hoping you hit on at least one of them?

gstelmack · 04-22-2010, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic

He'll nickel this year, return punts, dominate on special teams. In 2011, he should be a decent #2 corner. I'm OK with this.

And in two more years we can send him to Philly for a pair of fifths like we did with our last return man / special teams / #2 corner after a season player (Hobbs).

He needs to turn into a very good cover man (which the Pats could really use) for this pick to be worth it.

Thomkal · 04-22-2010, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

When they infused their team with so many Steelers.

Sadly there's a lot of truth in that.

Solecismic · 04-22-2010, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstelmack

And in two more years we can send him to Philly for a pair of fifths like we did with our last return man / special teams / #2 corner after a season player (Hobbs).

He needs to turn into a very good cover man (which the Pats could really use) for this pick to be worth it.

The idea is that he's a little bit faster. They really liked this kid.

k0ruptr · 04-22-2010, 10:30 PM

solid solid pick by the phins.

Galaril · 04-22-2010, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Kiper has a seriously inflated opinion of himself and his opinions and he's uber-judgmental. It's annoying and I hope he dies.

Yeah he is annoying. This guy never played any organized sports I bet yet he is a expert

Noop · 04-22-2010, 10:31 PM

I feel like George Constanza right now with this garbage pick by Miami.

McSweeny · 04-22-2010, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic

The idea is that he's a little bit faster. They really liked this kid.

yep, he's a great athlete and he ran a 4.4 40

Solecismic · 04-22-2010, 10:32 PM

After 28 picks (4 to go):

Raiders Army 546
ShadowJack 514
QuikSand 494
Mustang 465
RonnieDobbs2 456

Noop · 04-22-2010, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyF

Well, I guess we'll see. I'd be lying if I said I liked the pick, the trade to get the pick or that we really needed another QB.

On the other side of it. . . this will be the defining move of McDaniels tenure in Denver. If it fails, he's gone in two years. If it works, we have a QB who is a hard worker and likely won't hold out for big contracts or screw twenty year olds in public restrooms. (note I said likely, who the hell knows for sure)

The difference between the Raiders and the Broncos is that this is all the head coach doing it. If he doesn't get it right, Bowlen will find someone he thinks can get it right. Rather than draft the fastest available idiot twenty years in a row.

Tebow is gay.

miked · 04-22-2010, 10:33 PM

Even better, now the Jets can get Kindle? It's like double awesomeness, the Pats get a guy projected to go in the early 2nd and the Jets get the pick they should have made. J-E-T-S...

McCourty sucks. But he did run a 4.38 and returns punts. I'm told that picks don't matter in college...whatever, he had like 5 in 4 years.

Solecismic · 04-22-2010, 10:33 PM

Price to the Jets?

Izulde · 04-22-2010, 10:35 PM

Odrick's a pretty good pick, though I'd rather we drafted Kindle.

Swaggs · 04-22-2010, 10:35 PM

BTW... looking back on it, just how fucking crazy is it that the Raiders took Sebastian Janikowski (a freaking punter!!!) w/ the 17 overall pick ten-years ago?

Swaggs · 04-22-2010, 10:36 PM

and I guess he was actually one of their best first rounders of the decade.

04-22-2010, 10:15 PM	#403
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	New England will still get Kindle or Dan Williams. Jerry Hughes might be worth a look, too. I don't think you can be too unhappy with getting one of those two + adding picks. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

04-22-2010, 10:17 PM	#407
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	nice pick for Zona. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

04-22-2010, 10:17 PM	#408
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	DAMN MAN I really wanted Dan Williams in Miami. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-22-2010, 10:18 PM	#409
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	PHEW At least we can't end up with Williams now. __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

04-22-2010, 10:18 PM	#411
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Damn... When did Arizona become such a competently run franchise? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

04-22-2010, 10:15 PM	#401
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	And Kiper was giving McShay such a hard time about McShay not being sold on Clausen's ability or him being picked in the first half of the first round... Now McShay is plenty of an idiot in his own right, but you think by now Kiper would have learned that his opinion isn't the end all be all, and not always shared by NFL scouts and coaches.

04-22-2010, 10:19 PM	#412
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	here comes the Pats trading out of the first round __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

04-22-2010, 10:20 PM	#413
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	Its weird to have to wait this long for the Saints to make their pick and not be able to blame Mike Ditka for it.

04-22-2010, 10:20 PM	#414
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	I'd be fine with Kindle. Happy even. Odrick's the best value here, but LB is a bigger need.

04-22-2010, 10:21 PM	#416
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	well I guess I don't have to be disappointed the Cards took a LB now...

04-22-2010, 10:21 PM	#418
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Devin McCourty __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

04-22-2010, 10:22 PM	#419
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	i think last year's draft will end up looking okay...it's just...i dunno...not really fun to watch when your team is making 12 picks in the 4th round of guys you've never heard of ya know? __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

04-22-2010, 10:22 PM	#420
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Well, I guess we'll see. I'd be lying if I said I liked the pick, the trade to get the pick or that we really needed another QB. On the other side of it. . . this will be the defining move of McDaniels tenure in Denver. If it fails, he's gone in two years. If it works, we have a QB who is a hard worker and likely won't hold out for big contracts or screw twenty year olds in public restrooms. (note I said likely, who the hell knows for sure) The difference between the Raiders and the Broncos is that this is all the head coach doing it. If he doesn't get it right, Bowlen will find someone he thinks can get it right. Rather than draft the fastest available idiot twenty years in a row.

04-22-2010, 10:22 PM	#422
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	They're saying McCourty.

04-22-2010, 10:23 PM	#423
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	Glad to hear Packer's Gm Thompson publicly say he doesn't like the change to the draft. I am not a big fan of this so far. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

04-22-2010, 10:24 PM	#425
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	over wilson? hmm... __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

04-22-2010, 10:24 PM	#426
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Props to Rutgers if it is McCourty. If I am not mistaken, last season (Kenny Britt) was their first ever first rounder. Now they have two more. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

04-22-2010, 10:24 PM	#427
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	who the fuck is he? WTF??? __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

04-22-2010, 10:25 PM	#430
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	yeah...that was really worth all that trading down and leaving those other guys on the board (or so it seems). __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

04-22-2010, 10:26 PM	#432
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	He'll nickel this year, return punts, dominate on special teams. In 2011, he should be a decent #2 corner. I'm OK with this.

04-22-2010, 10:30 PM	#440
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	solid solid pick by the phins. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

04-22-2010, 10:31 PM	#442
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	I feel like George Constanza right now with this garbage pick by Miami. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-22-2010, 10:32 PM	#444
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	After 28 picks (4 to go): Raiders Army 546 ShadowJack 514 QuikSand 494 Mustang 465 RonnieDobbs2 456

04-22-2010, 10:33 PM	#446
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	Even better, now the Jets can get Kindle? It's like double awesomeness, the Pats get a guy projected to go in the early 2nd and the Jets get the pick they should have made. J-E-T-S... McCourty sucks. But he did run a 4.38 and returns punts. I'm told that picks don't matter in college...whatever, he had like 5 in 4 years. __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

04-22-2010, 10:33 PM	#447
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Price to the Jets?

04-22-2010, 10:35 PM	#448
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Odrick's a pretty good pick, though I'd rather we drafted Kindle. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

04-22-2010, 10:35 PM	#449
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	BTW... looking back on it, just how fucking crazy is it that the Raiders took Sebastian Janikowski (a freaking punter!!!) w/ the 17 overall pick ten-years ago? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

04-22-2010, 10:36 PM	#450
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	and I guess he was actually one of their best first rounders of the decade. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

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