07-15-2004, 02:40 PM | #401 |
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Henry/Todd,
Goli, like most of the U of M d-men that we are seeing go to the pros(Leopold to a certain extent, Martin, and especially Ballard), are offensive D-men. He would be playing in the USHL this season if Ballard had not signed with Phoenix. He definitely needs some time in college before heading to the pros. Playing on the big sheet will improve his already impressive skating skills, as he will have much more room to cover. He was one of the guys that Minnesota really wanted to get, so, that should tell you of how well thought of he is. Now, if you guys could just let us develop him for 4 years, we would really be happy! Remind me again in December, and I'll be glad to give you a update!
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07-15-2004, 02:50 PM | #402 |
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Thanks for the scouting report.
The information in Pittsburgh is that they really like his skating ability and I love a good offensive d-man. The Pens history is to let kids get experience in college. They did that with Brooks Orpik, Ryan Whitney and Noah Welch. Craig Patrick is strong believer in that.
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07-15-2004, 03:07 PM | #403 |
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He's in a good place for development, he's going to have to work hard for his spot and he's going to play against top-notch teams, so, we both can hope for good things to come for Alex!
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07-16-2004, 09:30 AM | #404 | |
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Inverview with Mike Modano on the radio yesterday. Might be more interesting for me than you guys, but it's sort of a glimpse into how important chemistry can be in sports:
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07-16-2004, 11:40 AM | #405 |
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Don Cherry is coming back to HNIC for at least one more year.
Mike Danton is pleading to conspiract to commit murder, and probably wont be back anytime soon.
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07-16-2004, 11:45 AM | #406 |
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DD where did you here this?
They havent said anything on radio yet?
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07-16-2004, 11:52 AM | #407 | |
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07-16-2004, 02:20 PM | #408 |
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Atlanta Thrasers star Danny Heatley was indicted today on first-degree felony & misdemeanor charges related to the traffic accident that killed teammate Dan Snyder last year.
If convicted of the most serious charge, Heatley faces 3 to 15 year in prison. Snyder's family had lobbied for leniency in the case. http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sp...16heatley.html |
07-16-2004, 02:43 PM | #409 |
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Hrm.....odd day for hockey
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07-16-2004, 04:12 PM | #410 | |
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07-16-2004, 06:12 PM | #411 |
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A list of players who have filed for arbitration...
http://www.nhlpa.com/Content/PRESS/n...ase.asp?ID=454 The WHA is still a joke... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5412689 |
07-17-2004, 03:18 PM | #412 |
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The WHA's free agent draft... "Founders' franchise" for that mysterious franchise that doesn't yet exist... what a joke...
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07-17-2004, 03:18 PM | #413 |
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dola,
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07-17-2004, 03:45 PM | #414 |
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2nd over all pick Travis Green?..LMAO!
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07-17-2004, 04:15 PM | #415 | |
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07-17-2004, 04:52 PM | #416 |
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I would expect the WHA to successfully start if there is an NHL lockout this year. Even if it is thrown together at the last minute. This is way too big an opportunity to miss if you have any kind of ambition of starting a new league.
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07-18-2004, 02:02 PM | #417 | |
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07-19-2004, 03:53 PM | #418 |
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Vancouver may walk away from Cloutier and Morrison... (I can't see it happening...)
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07-19-2004, 04:47 PM | #419 |
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Karim have you bought your season tickets for the WHA yet?
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07-19-2004, 07:35 PM | #420 | |
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Well, now that the Nordiks are in, I'm just waiting for the Flamers to be officially announced... Did you know...Texas has the most professional hockey teams in North America. Did you know...The first native Arizonian was drafted this year... I don't remember his name or what team drafted him or when... but that's not important. |
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07-20-2004, 01:29 AM | #421 |
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Did you know you are a Ardent hockey enthusiast?
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07-20-2004, 03:11 AM | #422 | |
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You know these last three years in Belgium will really come in handy if (when) there's a lockout. For all intents and purposes I've been living without any real hockey for three years. So little will change. Though given that I'm moving back to the States at the end of this year, the timing could have been a little better. I worry about Karim though. I fear he's going to turn into some Rain Man like character puttering around and spouting off random useless hockey facts and cursing the WHA in tourettes-like profanity filled explosions. In fact, I think it's already too late... |
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07-20-2004, 08:16 AM | #423 | |
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07-20-2004, 08:44 AM | #424 | |
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07-21-2004, 03:45 PM | #425 |
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07-21-2004, 03:49 PM | #426 |
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I still think it's too much but at least it is $2 million less. If he can regain his form then fine, but he's up there in age and it really showed against the Flames. HB is probably closer to home on this one and will give us a more accurate assessment.
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07-21-2004, 09:58 PM | #427 |
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Originally Posted by Chubby
If you've bothered to read any articles on ESPN.com or The Buffalo News you'd know they haven't even offered A contract. The last articles I saw were talking about how they were "talking" but Vanek was quoted as not being offered a contract. I think they would rather have him in Minnesota much like they had Miller stay at Michigan St. He also plays against college kids, remember that. I'm not saying he won't be a stud, I hope he is. Chubby, when you get back on the board, read this http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?id=1843089 ESPN.com: Who is your top player in your system ready to play in the NHL right now? General manager Darcy Regier: There's probably just one player who's got a shot at it, Tomas Vanek out of the University of Minnesota. If he's signed, he would be someone at training camp that would have a chance to make our team. He came over here from Vienna as a 14-year-old to play in Red Deer, Alberta, to pursue his dreams of playing in the NHL. He has so far been fulfilling his dreams. He's an interesting kid.
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07-22-2004, 03:08 AM | #428 | |
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Shanahan's play has declined over the last two years, especially in the play-offs. There was a huge outcry from Red Wings fans to dump Shanny after last year. He took the brunt of the criticism. He doesn't have great speed (never did), but he doesn't really play physical anymore either. He doesn't hit. He doesn't fight. He doesn't play with the required "mean streak" you'd hope (expect) to get out of a power forward with his size. In a lot of ways he played like Hull last year. He would coast into the slot and stay there waiting for a one-timer. More importantly over the last two years in the play-offs (16 games) he has 2 goals and 6 assists. You really need more out of one of your top line forwards. His current deal is $2 million less than he made last year (and would have made if the Wings picked up his option). But apparently there are a number of incentives in the contract that could boost his pay up to around the same amount. As with many things Red Wings-related, I didn't agree with the bulk of Wings fans on the Shanny issue. Yes, two goals in sixteen play-off games and no physical presence is unacceptable for a goal-scoring power forward, but I like Shanahan. He still scored 25 goals last year (30 the year before). He's a great character guy and a leader. It would be a shame to lose him especially considering there is really no apt replacement in the system. The Wings could have tried to go the free agent rout and sign someone cheaper, but who knows how that would have worked out (see: Whitney). |
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07-23-2004, 01:42 PM | #429 |
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Here's one of the better articles I've read about the CBA...
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07-23-2004, 03:55 PM | #430 |
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The more and more I read about this, the more and more this feels like the baseball labor situation. Hopefully the NHLPA isn't as strong as the MLBPA and some sanity can be restored.
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Unless I've missed it, that's far from a given. Remember, the NHL argued successfully during the Yashin holdout mess that a contract year doesn't count if the player doesn't play. They may very well have set a precedent with that case that will cost them big time.
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07-23-2004, 08:27 PM | #432 | |
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I've read that Goodenow sees the MLBPA as the "cadillac" of professional sports unions and confers with Donald Fehr on a regular basis. That doesn't auger well for an amicable agreement. |
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07-23-2004, 08:36 PM | #433 | |
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07-23-2004, 09:24 PM | #434 |
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Personally I hope that a salary cap is not put in place. I hate what the cap has done to the NFL.
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I think everyone agrees the $31 million hard cap is bogus. I'd actually be very surprised if a hard cap was implemented; it will never be agreed to by the union and will be used by the owners to get some sort of concession. When the salary cap is removed from the table, ownership will proceed toward some sort of luxury tax. The union will huff and puff but realize that's the future course and they'll haggle over the details of a graduated tax rate. The other elements such as arbitration, free agency and entry level salaries are not really that acrimonious and a consensus should be reached fairly easily.
Unfortunately, there won't be any meaningful discussions until September; it's Goodenow's deliberate strategy not to have substantive discussions until the 11th hour when the pressure's on. Last edited by Karim : 07-23-2004 at 11:41 PM. |
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Interesting stats I just came across. Flames dollars per minute of ice time...
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Now calculate how many minutes you need to work to match Ference's per minute salary, let alone Iginla's... Last edited by Karim : 07-23-2004 at 11:49 PM. |
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How much is that per tooth?
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07-24-2004, 02:23 AM | #439 | |
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Yeah, but if he's taking points from Fehr then the luxury tax will be so meaningless as to do anything but penalize the Rangers. In baseball, it wasn't so much the luxury tax that scared owners away from the huge contracts as the prospects of losing money and the fact that they couldn't get insurance for guaranteed contracts over 3 years that covered a pre-existing injury. So, in other words, if this goes like the baseball negotiations, the NHL will be fucked because they don't have the revenue streams that even baseball has. As for the 11th hour, that's what I always hated about these negotiations. In 1994, if I had been where these two sides were "meeting" for months, not even trying to resolve things with a gun and an armed group of mercenaries (I really need to stop watching these late night action movies), I would have taken over the damn building and locked them in their rooms until they hammered out an agreement. Then again, I was younger and more impressionable. Still, it's just frustrating that this will all come down to "who blinks first" and "who makes more public PR bungles in the next three months" to decide what happens. NOTHING LIKE PISSING AWAY MONTHS TRYING TO GAIN ONLY MINOR POSTURING POWER WHILE THE WORLD PASSES YOU BY AND FUCKS OVER YOUR SPORT. Ahem... did I mention I'm not real big on these type of negotiations... SI
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07-24-2004, 05:01 AM | #440 |
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The 11th hour strategy bothers me too. If either side truly cared about the sport or the fans, they'd be negotiating every day. There are no reasons why this couldn't be resolved by September 15th.
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07-24-2004, 01:58 PM | #442 | |
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But whos greed?
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07-24-2004, 02:00 PM | #443 | |
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07-24-2004, 02:08 PM | #444 |
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I don't even care about the particulars. I just want them to play.
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07-24-2004, 03:14 PM | #445 | |
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Unfortunately, I have to care about the particulars or I may no longer have a team. The Alberta owners have said as much. Both Edmonton and Calgary have held on until 2004, hoping some economic sense returns to the game. The 38 Oilers owners and the 9 Flames owners won't be willing to lose any more money on an annual basis. I don't blame them. And no one should expect them to divert money from their other businesses to prop up the teams. |
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07-24-2004, 03:36 PM | #446 | |
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DId you just call me simple? I could be simple...i AM a hockey player
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07-24-2004, 03:51 PM | #447 | |
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Unless the NHLPA drastically changes their stance or the NHL comes up with some sort of financial stability package, NHL hockey is dead in Alberta. Unfortunately, neither the NHLPA or NHL seem to give a crap about it. |
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07-24-2004, 03:52 PM | #448 | |
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07-24-2004, 04:06 PM | #449 | |
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AHAHHAHA I actually was wondering if anyone in this thread or how many people in this thread played hockey.....and still play hockey?And hwat kinda levels?
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