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A whole lot of people had 3 ACC teams in the Final 4 (Wake, UNC, and Duke), so I think it would be pretty bad for them to only put one team past the Sweet 16.
I'm not sure who to root for in this UNC-Nova game. UNC is the only ACC team I like, I live on the Chapel Hill-Durham border, my wife works at UNC, I will probably be going to school there sometime in the next two years, and I definitely like them more than Nova, but I really hate the ACC and love the Big East. I guess I will just enjoy. |
03-25-2005, 10:34 PM | #402 |
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AHH. How did May miss that.
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03-25-2005, 10:34 PM | #403 |
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I picked Carolina to win this game, but I picked Wisconsin to reach the final 4. I'm almost rooting against Carolina now, figuring it gives Wisconsin a better shot to move on.
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03-25-2005, 10:50 PM | #404 |
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Based on seeds only
Big East Should have 8 wins by the Final 4 Currently has 7 ACC Should have 12 Currently has 8 UNC has some catching up to do |
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03-26-2005, 12:39 AM | #406 |
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State of Kentucky (3 Teams) vs State of North Carolina (5 Teams) in the NCAA tournament.
Kentucky teams 6-1, two Elite 8 teams. North Carolina teams, 8-4, one Elite 8 team. |
03-26-2005, 12:48 AM | #407 |
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Ref's just handed that game to North Carolina.. i've watched that alledged "travel" 6 times in slow mo now.. and stupid rafferty is like count it with me.. 1.. 2... 3...
yet the 3rd step never comes everytime i watch it.. |
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UNC is my favourite team, but I have to agree with you here... I didn't see it in slow mo, but the two times I saw it on normal replay, I didn't see the third step either. |
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As to next season, you are basically swapping out BC (#4 seed) with Lousville (#4 seed). You add BC to the ACC and you have an unbelievably tough conference. Last edited by Arles : 03-26-2005 at 08:26 AM. |
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BC has done nothing in their long history of the Big East. In fact, they are the only original Big East team to have never made a Final Four. Louisville is a clear upgrade. I might even say Cincinnati is an upgrade of BC. BC will go and make noise in the ACC though. If VT and Miami could do what they did in that conference, then BC should immediatly become a top 3 team down there. And lets face it, VT and Miami did not suddenly become good teams this year. VT never even played in the Big East tournament, and suddenly they are #4 in the ACC? I think that speak volumns about how good the ACC really is. I don't personally give a crap if the ACC is better than the Big East, or if the Big 10 is underrated. Conference records in the tournament is hardly a good indicator of how good a conference is. Teams get hot, other teams get upset, and seedings and matchups are hardly equal down the line. Can't it suffice to say that the BE and ACC are good conferences that will have national title contenders every single year, along with 4 or 5 or 6 other teams who could make the tournament? Throw the Big12, Big 10 and Pac 10 into that category as well. (sorry SEC lovers. )
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You are certainly entitled to that opinion, though the BE did win the season series and placed just 1 less team in the Sweet 16 despite lower seeds pretty much across the board (I understand tournament results are not the end all, but you seem to like to use the results as proof, so...). They also have the same number of Elite 8 teams, and the ACC is only still in the tournament thanks to an early Christmas gift for UNC.
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BC in 2005 is a product of unbalanced scheduling. Down the stretch they proved that if they had to play UConn, Pitt, and 'Cuse twice (like ND did) they wouldn't have been a Top 15 team. They had the easiest in conference schedule in the Big East. Anyone who thinks they'll make noise in the ACC is crazy. They'll probably make the tourney again though because has VT proved the ACC is extremely weak from top to bottom.
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03-26-2005, 10:03 AM | #415 |
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So did the refs have an agenda in the Nova-UNC game last night, or what?
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03-26-2005, 10:11 AM | #416 | |
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I thought there was the usual array of bad calls/missed calls both ways, but that last call left a bad taste in my mouth. I didn't have a team to pull for in this game (despite my liking of the BE over the ACC in general). I am not a big fan of 'Nova and I actually like Roy Williams, and I am neutral on UNC. I was just enjoying watching a great, great basketball game, but the ending was pathetic. That game should be in overtime and we should have gotten 5 more minutes of great ball.
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03-26-2005, 10:39 AM | #417 | |
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If you're going to hang so much on this VPI&SU was fourth argument, you should at least correctly point out they finished tied for fourth, as you've done with BC and finishing tied for first. VPI&SU finished 8-8 in conference play this season, a one game improvement over their 7-9 finish in the Big East last season. They had a great season, but they also benefitted from an ACC schedule that had them only playing UNC and Wake once each. |
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OK, so you bring up the unbalanced schedule. Well, BC played 5 games combined against West Virginia and Villanova (3-2 record). It certainly seems like they are the class of the Big East in the Tourney. They also beat Syracuse by 5 and won at UCONN by 5. So, against the 6 NCAA tourney teams from the Big East, BC was a combined 5-3 and no worse than .500 against any of those teams. Now, let's look at VT. Here's a team that only played UNC, GT and Wake once during the season (finished 1-3 if you count the ACC tourney), but got to play Clemson, Virginia, and Miami twice. Hard to see how they reached .500 Quote:
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That's because BC was "perceived" to be in a down year going into the season. BC didn't get one vote in the week 1 poll - that's a lot of ground to make up. Despite that, they were in the top 10 by Week 10 with a 14-0 record (against a schedule including only 1 ranked team). At that same time, Gonzaga was sitting at No. 20 despite having wins over Washington, Georgia Tech and OK State. I'd say BC got plenty of love by the press. Quote:
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West Virginia beat Wake Forest (boy, does that feel good to say ) and I assume the Deacons were in the top 5 teams in the ACC.
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By NCAA standards you can put NC State in the top 5 and chalk up a loss to WVU as well. Of course you're counting Wake Forest's win over Providence who barely won any Big East games, and Duke's and Virginia Tech's win over St. John's, another team who barely won any Big East games, so your 0-4 stat is horribly misleading at best. The only real regular season match up top ACC vs. top Big East was UNC's win over UConn. It's really hilarious that you say the Big East teams beat up on Clemson and Virginia and then provide a stat of how the top ACC teams beat the two worst Big East teams. (Of course if you do decide to put NC State in the top 5 you'd count their win over UConn in the tournament along with their loss to WVU.)
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19-5 opening run by WVU? Damn, nobody expected that.
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Ypsilanti is in the house! Used to live about 3 blocks from Eastern.
Anyways im loving WVU at the moment, Louisville down 16. |
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40-27 at the half.
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03-26-2005, 04:36 PM | #425 |
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I can't take it.
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Meltdown city.
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03-26-2005, 05:14 PM | #427 |
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Horrible charge call, he barely touched him, you'll see far more pushing than that. The refs really want WVU to win.
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03-26-2005, 05:25 PM | #428 |
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Come on WVU!!!
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If WVU wins, I will have an excellent chance at winning lathums NCAA challenge
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03-26-2005, 05:27 PM | #430 |
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My two favorite WVU players are Pigsnoggle and Carebear (at least that's what their names sound like without looking at TV for spelling yet)
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03-26-2005, 05:29 PM | #431 |
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Have you ever Pigsnoggled a Carebear? If you had, they wouldn't be your favorite players.
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PIGSNOGGLES!!!!!!!!!!
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Pittsnoglle you m$##@@#$#@$@#$@#
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03-26-2005, 05:40 PM | #435 |
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down 2 with the ball...
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03-26-2005, 05:42 PM | #436 |
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tied
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOvertime
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commerical
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another commercial
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03-26-2005, 05:44 PM | #440 |
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three straight commericals!
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man i love college basketball
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What a damn game.... I don't want this tournament to end....
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03-26-2005, 05:57 PM | #443 |
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as the game slips from WVU's fingers...
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They just couldn't keep up that shooting while giving up a ton of easy baskets on defense. |
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03-26-2005, 06:05 PM | #446 |
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93-85 final Louisville.
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Dear god... i think i just about had a heart attack at age 28..
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03-26-2005, 06:28 PM | #448 | |
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Well, Arizona has thrown the ball away numerous times (8 turnovers), Stoudamire hasn't hit a field goal and Illinois is almost 50% from 3-point land...
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Ok, My heart's finally slowed down some... I still have no idea how Louisville Overcame wvu hitting 46000 three's..
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