Super Bowl XLIII Thread - Page 9

JonInMiddleGA · 02-01-2009, 09:09 PM

Okay, if that's not an incomplete pass then maybe this thing was rigged after all. I didn't even think that was remotely questionable watching it live, much less on replay.

CU Tiger · 02-01-2009, 09:09 PM

how huge could that 15yards be if it is over turned

Young Drachma · 02-01-2009, 09:10 PM

Well what a fitting end to crap.

sterlingice · 02-01-2009, 09:10 PM

Seriously, they don't even look at it?

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Racer · 02-01-2009, 09:10 PM

How was that played not reviewed?

Eaglesfan27 · 02-01-2009, 09:10 PM

I think that is a fumble. His arm wasn't coming forward until after the ball was coming out and after the defensive player hit him.

QuikSand · 02-01-2009, 09:10 PM

quick non-review there...sucks to see it end on a Warner fumble, too...

CU Tiger · 02-01-2009, 09:10 PM

How was that not AT LEAST REVIEWED????

JonInMiddleGA · 02-01-2009, 09:10 PM

Wow.

An appropriately sloppy finish to a chippy game.

It's like watching the NBA, a few very good players surrounded by bland mediocrity and piss poor officiating at the end.

SirFozzie · 02-01-2009, 09:10 PM

That's a bullshit call.. his arm was going forward.

Young Drachma · 02-01-2009, 09:10 PM

That said, I'm looking forward to the post-game interview with Mike Tomlin. He cracks me up.

ISiddiqui · 02-01-2009, 09:11 PM

Fuck, that was disappointing. And for a second there, I thought 'Zona may have had it.

Young Drachma · 02-01-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

That's a bullshit call.. his arm was going forward.

+1

He was clearly throwing trying to throw the ball.

But I think they just wanted to end it.

What a crap end.

GoldenEagle · 02-01-2009, 09:11 PM

The piss poor officiating is the story of this game.

henry296 · 02-01-2009, 09:11 PM

Most of the penalties were penalties of agression. Not a lot of false starts, offsides, etc.

15 years from now most people will forget the penalties and it will be a Top 10 Super Bowl.

Jas_lov · 02-01-2009, 09:11 PM

Of course they didn't want to review it and give Arizona another chance. Arizona was screwed in this game and Pittsburgh stole the win. Now we'll have to hear "All Big Ben does is win football games single handedly" for the whole offseason.

Noop · 02-01-2009, 09:11 PM

I think they should have reviewed the play just so the game doesn't end this way.

sabotai · 02-01-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I think that is a fumble. His arm wasn't coming forward until after the ball was coming out and after the defensive player hit him.

That's how I saw it too. Looked like a pretty clear "empty hand" to me.

sterlingice · 02-01-2009, 09:12 PM

Ugly ass game

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Tekneek · 02-01-2009, 09:12 PM

Hmmm... Dusty finish to the game. At least review it to be absolutely sure. Must have looked like a definite fumble to the officials in the press box.

Philliesfan980 · 02-01-2009, 09:12 PM

Fuck. Not having a dog in the fight, I would have loved to see 2 jump balls to Fitzgerald just to see if he could will himself to catch one of them.

Northwood_DK · 02-01-2009, 09:12 PM

It was not pretty but still fun to watch. Congratulation to the winners.

Izulde · 02-01-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

That's how I saw it too. Looked like a pretty clear "empty hand" to me.

yep

Thomkal · 02-01-2009, 09:13 PM

*sigh* Congrats Steelers and their fans. I'm not sure we had any right to even be in the game late given how we played earlier. Cards secondary to blame more than anything else, especially on that late TD drive where they apparantly didn't cover Holmes at all.

Oilers9911 · 02-01-2009, 09:14 PM

That's a garbage ending. No review on that when he was obviously bringing his arm forward? What total shit.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-01-2009, 09:14 PM

I was wrong Thomkal - this was similar to the Philly game. Unfortunately for you, Arizona played the part of Philly. Congrats to the Steelers fans on the board. Fun game to watch.

sabotai · 02-01-2009, 09:14 PM

Having said that, they probably should have at least reviewed it.

I'm wondering if that wasn't just a really heads up move by Pittsburgh to rush their offense out there and kneel the ball before the officials upstairs had time to really look at it and call for the review.

JonInMiddleGA · 02-01-2009, 09:15 PM

And while we're on the subject, I still haven't seen Holmes foot touch the ground yet, only the back of his own ankle.

And I say that while mildly hoping all night (to my son's dismay) that Pittsburgh would win since I think they're better overall than Arizona and didn't really have anything else to hang my rooting hat on but that was a drizzling shit of a finish.

Noop · 02-01-2009, 09:15 PM

I think all defensive coaches need to do away with any variation of the prevent defense.

JonInMiddleGA · 02-01-2009, 09:15 PM

USA Network spot was solid to close things out though.

Radii · 02-01-2009, 09:16 PM

I don't know if I've ever seen a game where conspiracy nuts are blaming the refs and NFL for trying to give the game away to both teams at the same time.

Very exciting super bowl regardless, the final 10 minutes or so really make up for any sloppiness in my mind. Congrats to Pittsburgh,and sorry thomkal

sterlingice · 02-01-2009, 09:16 PM

Watching it on the DVR-and, of course, I'm no expert, but here's what I saw.

It was obviously close- it seemed like he got hit right as he was about to throw it forward. It was the equivalent of "tie goes to the runner" in baseball. That made it look like his hand was going forward with the ball in it, but he had already lost possession and it was going forward with the ball over it. So, yeah, fumble, I think.

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PurdueBrad · 02-01-2009, 09:16 PM

I *believe* a review would've upheld the fumble but I don't know how you don't review there. I think there would be 4 seconds left if I paused it right IF it was ruled incomplete so it would be one shot from the 29 yd line (the penalty would hold up I believe).

Tekneek · 02-01-2009, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai

I'm wondering if that wasn't just a really heads up move by Pittsburgh to rush their offense out there and kneel the ball before the officials upstairs had time to really look at it and call for the review.

I may be in the minority here, but shouldn't every close call be an automatic review that late, with the game that close, in the Super Bowl? Buzz the referee on every close call just to be sure...

sterlingice · 02-01-2009, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

USA Network spot was solid to close things out though.

Agreed

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Danny · 02-01-2009, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai

Having said that, they probably should have at least reviewed it.

I'm wondering if that wasn't just a really heads up move by Pittsburgh to rush their offense out there and kneel the ball before the officials upstairs had time to really look at it and call for the review.

Officials upstairs should have called for review right away. I personally think it was an incomplete, but either way, it was close enough where there is no excuse not to review it.

Tekneek · 02-01-2009, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

USA Network spot was solid to close things out though.

Glad I turned the TV back on just in time to catch that...

henry296 · 02-01-2009, 09:17 PM

For everyone's sanity it would've been nice to actually stop the game for the review. However, the replay booth had enough time to determine if a review was necessary and determined it was not.

As for Ben he was 21/30 for 256 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT. I'd call that a very good game for any QB and will take those numbers every week for 16 weeks and call that player a Pro Bowler.

Oilers9911 · 02-01-2009, 09:18 PM

Perhaps, but it's the Super Bowl for God's sake. The booth upstairs should have called down immediately and said we're having a look at it.

CU Tiger · 02-01-2009, 09:18 PM

naner puss may have been the best commercial of the night

JonInMiddleGA · 02-01-2009, 09:18 PM

Maybe Obama will at least demand an explanation of why that call wasn't reviewed, lord knows that the increasingly shrill Michaels & Madden aren't going to question anything while doing their best imitation of Tony Schiavone. I'm really surprised they didn't call this the greatest Monday Nitro ever.

Danny · 02-01-2009, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oilers9911

Perhaps, but it's the Super Bowl for God's sake. The booth upstairs should have called down immediately and said we're having a look at it.

Exactly, worse case scenario is you create a couple more minutes of drama before ending the game.

JonInMiddleGA · 02-01-2009, 09:20 PM

Sprint/Nextel/whatevertheyarethisweek spot for sending the kid to detention was pretty good for a post-game spot.

henry296 · 02-01-2009, 09:20 PM

I agree, should've stopped the game.

sterlingice · 02-01-2009, 09:20 PM

Holmes for MVP with honorable mention for Harrison?

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Atocep · 02-01-2009, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry296

For everyone's sanity it would've been nice to actually stop the game for the review. However, the replay booth had enough time to determine if a review was necessary and determined it was not.

If they looked at that and determined the on-field ref shouldn't take a look at it then they should be fired. That play gets reviewed in any other game.

PurdueBrad · 02-01-2009, 09:21 PM

Anyone else worried Namath might plant a wet one on Mr. Rooney or one of the Steelers?

Galaxy · 02-01-2009, 09:21 PM

I don't see it being overturned for the simple fact that it would of have been conclusive.

Shitty decision not to at least review it.

sterlingice · 02-01-2009, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Sprint/Nextel/whatevertheyarethisweek spot for sending the kid to detention was pretty good for a post-game spot.

I like it, but it's an older one. Not a new Super Bowl ad

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SirFozzie · 02-01-2009, 09:22 PM

"They said we couldn't top last year's superbowl... so we rigged this one".

02-01-2009, 09:09 PM	#401
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Okay, if that's not an incomplete pass then maybe this thing was rigged after all. I didn't even think that was remotely questionable watching it live, much less on replay. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

02-01-2009, 09:10 PM	#403
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Well what a fitting end to crap. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

02-01-2009, 09:10 PM	#404
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Seriously, they don't even look at it? SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-01-2009, 09:10 PM	#406
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I think that is a fumble. His arm wasn't coming forward until after the ball was coming out and after the defensive player hit him. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

02-01-2009, 09:10 PM	#408
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	How was that not AT LEAST REVIEWED???? Last edited by CU Tiger : 02-01-2009 at 09:14 PM.

02-01-2009, 09:09 PM	#402
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	how huge could that 15yards be if it is over turned

02-01-2009, 09:10 PM	#405
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	How was that played not reviewed?

02-01-2009, 09:10 PM	#407
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	quick non-review there...sucks to see it end on a Warner fumble, too...

02-01-2009, 09:10 PM	#409
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Wow. An appropriately sloppy finish to a chippy game. It's like watching the NBA, a few very good players surrounded by bland mediocrity and piss poor officiating at the end. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 02-01-2009 at 09:11 PM.

02-01-2009, 09:10 PM	#410
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	That's a bullshit call.. his arm was going forward. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

02-01-2009, 09:10 PM	#411
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	That said, I'm looking forward to the post-game interview with Mike Tomlin. He cracks me up. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

02-01-2009, 09:11 PM	#412
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Fuck, that was disappointing. And for a second there, I thought 'Zona may have had it. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

02-01-2009, 09:11 PM	#414
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	The piss poor officiating is the story of this game. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

02-01-2009, 09:11 PM	#415
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Most of the penalties were penalties of agression. Not a lot of false starts, offsides, etc. 15 years from now most people will forget the penalties and it will be a Top 10 Super Bowl. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

02-01-2009, 09:11 PM	#416
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Of course they didn't want to review it and give Arizona another chance. Arizona was screwed in this game and Pittsburgh stole the win. Now we'll have to hear "All Big Ben does is win football games single handedly" for the whole offseason.

02-01-2009, 09:11 PM	#417
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	I think they should have reviewed the play just so the game doesn't end this way. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

02-01-2009, 09:12 PM	#419
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Ugly ass game SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-01-2009, 09:12 PM	#420
Tekneek Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: USA	Hmmm... Dusty finish to the game. At least review it to be absolutely sure. Must have looked like a definite fumble to the officials in the press box.

02-01-2009, 09:12 PM	#421
Philliesfan980 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Exton, PA	Fuck. Not having a dog in the fight, I would have loved to see 2 jump balls to Fitzgerald just to see if he could will himself to catch one of them.

02-01-2009, 09:12 PM	#422
Northwood_DK College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Back in Norway	It was not pretty but still fun to watch. Congratulation to the winners.

02-01-2009, 09:13 PM	#424
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	sigh Congrats Steelers and their fans. I'm not sure we had any right to even be in the game late given how we played earlier. Cards secondary to blame more than anything else, especially on that late TD drive where they apparantly didn't cover Holmes at all. Last edited by Thomkal : 02-01-2009 at 09:14 PM.

02-01-2009, 09:14 PM	#425
Oilers9911 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	That's a garbage ending. No review on that when he was obviously bringing his arm forward? What total shit.

02-01-2009, 09:14 PM	#426
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I was wrong Thomkal - this was similar to the Philly game. Unfortunately for you, Arizona played the part of Philly. Congrats to the Steelers fans on the board. Fun game to watch. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

02-01-2009, 09:14 PM	#427
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Having said that, they probably should have at least reviewed it. I'm wondering if that wasn't just a really heads up move by Pittsburgh to rush their offense out there and kneel the ball before the officials upstairs had time to really look at it and call for the review.

02-01-2009, 09:15 PM	#428
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	And while we're on the subject, I still haven't seen Holmes foot touch the ground yet, only the back of his own ankle. And I say that while mildly hoping all night (to my son's dismay) that Pittsburgh would win since I think they're better overall than Arizona and didn't really have anything else to hang my rooting hat on but that was a drizzling shit of a finish. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

02-01-2009, 09:15 PM	#429
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	I think all defensive coaches need to do away with any variation of the prevent defense. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

02-01-2009, 09:15 PM	#430
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	USA Network spot was solid to close things out though. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

02-01-2009, 09:16 PM	#431
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I don't know if I've ever seen a game where conspiracy nuts are blaming the refs and NFL for trying to give the game away to both teams at the same time. Very exciting super bowl regardless, the final 10 minutes or so really make up for any sloppiness in my mind. Congrats to Pittsburgh,and sorry thomkal

02-01-2009, 09:16 PM	#432
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Watching it on the DVR-and, of course, I'm no expert, but here's what I saw. It was obviously close- it seemed like he got hit right as he was about to throw it forward. It was the equivalent of "tie goes to the runner" in baseball. That made it look like his hand was going forward with the ball in it, but he had already lost possession and it was going forward with the ball over it. So, yeah, fumble, I think. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-01-2009, 09:16 PM	#433
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	I believe a review would've upheld the fumble but I don't know how you don't review there. I think there would be 4 seconds left if I paused it right IF it was ruled incomplete so it would be one shot from the 29 yd line (the penalty would hold up I believe).

02-01-2009, 09:17 PM	#438
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	For everyone's sanity it would've been nice to actually stop the game for the review. However, the replay booth had enough time to determine if a review was necessary and determined it was not. As for Ben he was 21/30 for 256 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT. I'd call that a very good game for any QB and will take those numbers every week for 16 weeks and call that player a Pro Bowler. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

02-01-2009, 09:18 PM	#439
Oilers9911 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	Perhaps, but it's the Super Bowl for God's sake. The booth upstairs should have called down immediately and said we're having a look at it.

02-01-2009, 09:18 PM	#440
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	naner puss may have been the best commercial of the night

02-01-2009, 09:18 PM	#441
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Maybe Obama will at least demand an explanation of why that call wasn't reviewed, lord knows that the increasingly shrill Michaels & Madden aren't going to question anything while doing their best imitation of Tony Schiavone. I'm really surprised they didn't call this the greatest Monday Nitro ever. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

02-01-2009, 09:20 PM	#443
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Sprint/Nextel/whatevertheyarethisweek spot for sending the kid to detention was pretty good for a post-game spot. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis