WW LXXXIII Marvel Universe - Game Over! Rebel victory!

[Mr.Fantastic]

Originally Posted by GhostRider

Who am I guarding, Spidey or Mr. Fantastic?

You are guarding Spiderman.

[GhostRider]

I defend Spidey with my life.

Hey, Wall-Crawler, use that web of your's and get a six-pack of beer!

[Mr.Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Magneto

I think there is a fair chance you are right. I think removing me as a prelate is/was a stupid move, but there is really no way that I could have stopped it. I'm hoping we get lucky and the scheme turns out to be successful

ORDER PUNISHER TO GUARD MR. FANTASTIC

I guess that is just a matter of perspective. I think it could end up being a stupid move like you said if Vision ends up living somehow and I get day or night killed. Otherwise the worst part of it is going to end up meaning less prelates around and less people forced to guard, ie: more people able to use their special abilities.

I think if this buys Spiderman even one more night scan that gets a hit on a rebel, it could break the game open for us. I guess if something bad happens to me here, everyone will be able to do an "I told you so" to me, I just think the odds are in our favor with the number of people left right now.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Plus, like I said earlier, I don't necessarily think removing you as a prelate was necessary, but everyone has to understand if you remain as one, I have to order you or ghostrider to guard me, which I was fine doing earlier. I don't know that the end effect would be that much different though, if you are bad you wouldn't get night killed.. if you were good you may or may not get night killed but for our purposes it wouldn't really matter if both you and I are good.

[Scarlet Witch]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fantastic

I think this is a lie. Nick Fury determined no one was posessed on day 9. I think you are protecting Vision for some reason, either you or he is the Shadow King and your plan backfired. I also wonder about the timing of Vision's coming out this morning just before the night results showing Nick Fury's death means that the shadow king is also somehow in league with the rebels and thus knew what the night kill would be, knowing Nick's shadow tracker would not be around you didn't realize my device was multi-functional.

Mr. F, here's your first post right after my reveal. It's not at all revisionist history. Right away, you've got it in your mind to think it's a lie, and shrug all my answers off. There's no question that I didn't answer.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Witch

Mr. F, here's your first post right after my reveal. It's not at all revisionist history. Right away, you've got it in your mind to think it's a lie, and shrug all my answers off. There's no question that I didn't answer.

You basically told us that the shadowking can posess day or night, multiple people at once pretty much everyone except either you or Vision. Then you proceeded to talk to yourself for a good part of the morning to try to illustrate the point.

Almost none of that seemed like a reasonable explanation to me.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Perhaps part of it is just a feeling of redemption for me because days ago I knew I had a bad gut feeling about you and thephoenix talked me out of it. I was going to scan you but instead decided to scan Kang. I'm not upset with the results of my scan on Kang, but it feels good to find that i was right about you at the time too.

[Scarlet Witch]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fantastic

You basically told us that the shadowking can posess day or night, multiple people at once pretty much everyone except either you or Vision. Then you proceeded to talk to yourself for a good part of the morning to try to illustrate the point.

Almost none of that seemed like a reasonable explanation to me.

This is a lie. I never said he can possess during night. Also, I said that the actions happened on different days. I'll find the post now.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Witch

This is a lie. I never said he can possess during night. Also, I said that the actions happened on different days. I'll find the post now.

You said you were posessed during the day. Vision reported his supposed posess attempt before the night write up this morning.

[Scarlet Witch]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fantastic

Why haven't you tried to posess multiple people at once prior to now? You could have taken over the game by now if you had posessed a new person every day. Why don't you have like 8 or 9 people posessed all working for you now?

Ah, while scanning I saw this post, and I think I've found the misunderstanding -- you meant that he was occupying two people at the same time, and I thought you were talking about performing the act of occupying at the same time.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Vision

An interesting note. I stirred from my slumber last night as I felt the Shadow King's presence within my mind. Apparently he was not prepared for the subtle differences in my synthezoid brain, and so failed in his attempt to possess me.

This seems to indicate two things:

1. The Shadow King remains a threat
2. Assuming that he can make one attempt per day, none of us are possessed, at least for today.

With that, I must go attend to financial matters for several hours.

This was Vision's claim. It occured a few minutes before the night results.

If you would like to modify your story again, feel free to.

[Scarlet Witch]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fantastic

You said you were posessed during the day. Vision reported his supposed posess attempt before the night write up this morning.

So the PM was sent to the Vision before the write-up was done, even though the action was technically made in the morning. My guess is that hoops didn't want to send the Vision a PM for his night actions, then do the writeup, then send him another PM, and instead he consolidated.

Note that I'm not saying that Shadow King CAN'T do it at night -- I honestly have no idea. All I know is that when he sent in the order, he said he wanted it done first thing in the morning.

[Scarlet Witch]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fantastic

This was Vision's claim. It occured a few minutes before the night results.

If you would like to modify your story again, feel free to.

Nope. It happened RIGHT before. See above post.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Witch

So the PM was sent to the Vision before the write-up was done, even though the action was technically made in the morning. My guess is that hoops didn't want to send the Vision a PM for his night actions, then do the writeup, then send him another PM, and instead he consolidated.

Note that I'm not saying that Shadow King CAN'T do it at night -- I honestly have no idea. All I know is that when he sent in the order, he said he wanted it done first thing in the morning.

Wrong again, he actually said he was woken up during his slumber last night. But I do appreciate you accomidating your story to fit with the facts at hand

[Mr.Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Witch

Nope. It happened RIGHT before. See above post.

Nope, Vision's post was 2 minutes before the night write up, which means if there really was a PM, it would have been before that even. Either way, Vision very clearly says he was woken from his slumber that night.

[Scarlet Witch]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fantastic

Wrong again, he actually said he was woken up during his slumber last night. But I do appreciate you accomidating your story to fit with the facts at hand

Good point. Either he embellished on it, or the PM was misleading. If either of those is the case, there's no point fighting it. All I've got is for people to look at how Mr. F and Punisher have acted about this the last four pages -- neither of them have made any effort to believe this, and just kept going through with the plan to kill the Vision. But at this point, even if the rest of you WERE on my side, I don't even think we have time to get a plan.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Witch

Good point. Either he embellished on it, or the PM was misleading. If either of those is the case, there's no point fighting it. All I've got is for people to look at how Mr. F and Punisher have acted about this the last four pages -- neither of them have made any effort to believe this, and just kept going through with the plan to kill the Vision. But at this point, even if the rest of you WERE on my side, I don't even think we have time to get a plan.

Sorry that I looked at the facts rather than believing your story.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Well, as much fun as this has been going round and round all day, it is time for me to go watch some tv with Mrs.Fantastic. Ironically enough, we're going to be watching Heroes in a little bit.

Either way, I think there probably were better ways this could have been played, and I'll try to check back in before the deadline. The only way this really blows up in our face though is if Vision lives and I somehow die today or tonight. So just to try to make sure we don't lose with this move..

Standard Attack with Control Rod at Vision

Special Action: Use Energy Attack Device

[Vision]

The Vision has arrived. Seven pages of data logs to ready, and only forty minutes to act.

ACTIVATE STANDARD DEFENSE

[Vision]

First, ready equals read.

Second, I see that the tide has turned against me.

I can assure you all that I am loyal. I will meantime endeavor to remain alive. I apologize in advance if I must destroy an innocent in protecting myself.

I fear that instead of reading the logs to determine how and where this assault began, I must instead formulate a defense, both verbal and physical in nature.

Would anyone care to summarize the so-called "case" against me?

[Vision]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fantastic

I think this is a lie. Nick Fury determined no one was posessed on day 9. I think you are protecting Vision for some reason, either you or he is the Shadow King and your plan backfired. I also wonder about the timing of Vision's coming out this morning just before the night results showing Nick Fury's death means that the shadow king is also somehow in league with the rebels and thus knew what the night kill would be, knowing Nick's shadow tracker would not be around you didn't realize my device was multi-functional.

And now I begin, skipping around through the arguments, most likely resulting in some dgree of incoherency.

The Vision awoke, prepared to go to earn funds for our endeavors, and was gaining sustenance from a processed cereal substance.

I was alerted that I had sensed something in the night, and immediately reported to you the impression I'd gotten.

The "timing" was simply when i was at a computer terminal and able to communicate.

[Vision]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fantastic

You basically told us that the shadowking can posess day or night, multiple people at once pretty much everyone except either you or Vision. Then you proceeded to talk to yourself for a good part of the morning to try to illustrate the point.

Almost none of that seemed like a reasonable explanation to me.

I know nothing of the immunity of the Witch, nor anyone else. The impression I got in fact wasn't that I was immune to the effect, but that the attack failed, due to the possessor being unfamiliar with the synthezoid nature of my mind.

I have been susceptible to psychic effects in the past, but I presume that there is added difficulty in doing this to a mind such as mine.

And why have we gotten away from Cable today?

[Vision]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fantastic

This was Vision's claim. It occured a few minutes before the night results.

If you would like to modify your story again, feel free to.

I shall not modify this story, as it is just what happened. i related it without delay, knowing that I had mere minutes before leaving for the day.

I did see the unfortunate account of Nick Fury's demise, but had nothing of value to add. It was expected, since Nick had grown to such a trusted position in our group, and he was unprotected.

[Vision]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fantastic

Wrong again, he actually said he was woken up during his slumber last night. But I do appreciate you accomidating your story to fit with the facts at hand

[OOC - okay time's awasting and i need to write in human speak for speed for a bit.

I'm not a rebel. i am a plain villager.

I wrote that I'd awoken from my slumber, because that was real life. i woke up, got ready, fixed breakfast, had a few minuteds before having to leave for work. saw it was a bit after 5:30 or whatever, thought maybe the night post was up. found out then about the posseision attempt.

technically it was early morning when i had the sensation, and at the time i typed the post it never occured to me that the exact time of the post vs the nightkill post would have such huge consequences. never occured at all!

[Vision]

It appears that my friends and enemies are unresponsive.

Persuasion has failed, i must reluctantly my a very expensive price for my contiued existance. This will weaken me for days to come, but the absence of life in this communication room indicates there is no hope for changing hearts.

ACTIVATE MOLECULAR MANIPULATION

[Scarlet Witch]

STANDARD ATTACK MR. FANTASTIC

[GhostRider]

Well, I don't know what anybody has done. We need some sort of lynch and either Mr. F has gotten Vision or I'll throw in and help get Cable as those are the rebels. Let's get some rebel-blood!

standard attack Cable

[Vision]

[OOC

standard attack mr. fantastic

[Mr.Fantastic]

Standard Defense

[Mr.Fantastic]

Nice gang up last minute double attack there at the deadline by the shadow king

[GhostRider]

Crazy deadline!

[Vision]

I still do not know from whence came these accusations, I can only assume that the vehemence from Reed comes from killing me, plus a coming night-kil on magneto, leaves reed as the sole remaining prelate, which wins the game if he's bad.

I did not think he was bad before, guess i'm really terrible at this game

I tried to do more to defend than the loyalists we've lynched before, we'll see.

i certainly haven't changed any minds, and for what it's worth, thanks scarlet witch for trying! I am afraid if i die now, that magneto is in real trouble!!!

to think, I trusted reeed more than Erik! Redd you've played a hell of a game!

[Tyrith]

DEADLINE.

[Vision]

Reed, you have nothing to fear mrom my attack, it was pretty much for show, as I have only one point of energy left after my defensive special.

[hoopsguy]

Have some numbers to crunch on this one with the stuff at the end. Going to be a few.

[GhostRider]

Originally Posted by Vision

I still do not know from whence came these accusations, I can only assume that the vehemence from Reed comes from killing me, plus a coming night-kil on magneto, leaves reed as the sole remaining prelate, which wins the game if he's bad.

I did not think he was bad before, guess i'm really terrible at this game

I tried to do more to defend than the loyalists we've lynched before, we'll see.

i certainly haven't changed any minds, and for what it's worth, thanks scarlet witch for trying! I am afraid if i die now, that magneto is in real trouble!!!

to think, I trusted reeed more than Erik! Redd you've played a hell of a game!

Vision, it's worse than you think if that is the case, we ousted Magneto as a pre-late already.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Vision

I still do not know from whence came these accusations, I can only assume that the vehemence from Reed comes from killing me, plus a coming night-kil on magneto, leaves reed as the sole remaining prelate, which wins the game if he's bad.

I did not think he was bad before, guess i'm really terrible at this game

I tried to do more to defend than the loyalists we've lynched before, we'll see.

i certainly haven't changed any minds, and for what it's worth, thanks scarlet witch for trying! I am afraid if i die now, that magneto is in real trouble!!!

to think, I trusted reeed more than Erik! Redd you've played a hell of a game!

Don't try to sweet talk yourself out of this here. You pretty much played your entire hand here. I figured something was going to happen that you and Scarlet Witch had some plan up your sleeves. Unfortunately i had to be pulled away by the mrs, and couldn't dedicate any more time running around in circles.

Hopefully I have done enough to stop you today, otherwise the loyals are all in trouble.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Not even going to try to convince anyone else that you two are bad news now. Whatever was done was done. If you all got me, then well either the rebels just won or you will get yours.

If you didn't get me, then your cover is blown anyways. I have a sports sim to run, I'll check back to see what the fates decided.

[Scarlet Witch]

A sports sim to run? Today's Monday.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Witch

A sports sim to run? Today's Monday.

Yep, have an ootp sim that I am running.

[Vision]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fantastic

I think Vision is lying. My detector tells me that there is someone posessed today. Either Vision is the Shadow King and made up that story, or he is the one that is posessed.

My psionic communications detector if pointed directly at someone would tell me who was controlling them (as I used it on Nick fury the previous day and found no one controlling them). Today I used it's other form which just tells me if anyone is being controlled. The result was yes, someone is posessed. So unless there are two different people out there with the ability to posess, Vision is lying.

Alright, I see this is where it began. Please re-read my news item from this morning. I ASSUMED that the possession attack would be pass/fail, and count as a special action. It seems that later Scarlet Witch turned out to be possessed. I seem to have mis-estimated the ability of the Shadow King.

I believed, though, that I clearly indicated that the "noone is possessed" portion was supposition on my part.

Now I must think, and so must we all, if i die and turn out innocent, what shall we make of Mr. Fantastic. It seems that he's pushed harder for the Vision than any of us have pushed for anyone all game long.

He will be damned by the evidence.

And if I live, I will be weakened enought that I sahll go down fairly easily tomorrow. I fear greatly for our chances.

[Vision]

Originally Posted by GhostRider

Vision, it's worse than you think if that is the case, we ousted Magneto as a pre-late already.

A brilliant move by Reed, then. I have not gotten to that point, yet.

Allow me to guess: the idea was Mr. Fantastic's, with the thought that there were too many guard actions being issued?

I say again, brilliant.

[GhostRider]

Originally Posted by Vision

A brilliant move by Reed, then. I have not gotten to that point, yet.

Allow me to guess: the idea was Mr. Fantastic's, with the thought that there were too many guard actions being issued?

I say again, brilliant.

No, with him being our only cleared Prelate, we thought it would remove that as a win condition if he would be the only prelate (a lynch on you and Magneto out as one).

[hoopsguy]

The day starts with Cable declaring he may not be lynched and ends with a flurry of attacks between the remaining heroes.

Vision finds himself under assault from Mr.Fantastic. Mr.Fantastic, the proud possessor of the Cosmic Control Rod, unleashes its fury at the andriod. He also aims another device at him, which spews fire. However, Vision becomes intangible and the attacks pass through him. The same result happens with Punisher's shots.

Scarlet Witch and Vision take aim at Mr.Fantastic, whose rubbery skins does not stand up well to solar energy and witchcraft. However, neither blow was mighty enough to take down the scientist.

Cable finds himself the target of several attacks, most notably Ghost Rider, Spider-Man, and Magneto. He is able to withstand the punishment, but looks worse for the wear than any of today's combatants.

No lynch, Night 10 is underway. Oh, and Galactus moves closer to eating the planet! Hmmm, don't think that mechanic is working very well at this point ...

[Vision]

I am sickened at this thought, but we have been treating Mr. Fantastic for days as cleared.

Can someone (perhaps you, Reed?) refresh my memory of what exactly cleared Dr. Richards?

Honestly, there were posts I missed or skimmed very quickly due to being on shortly before deadline at least twice. The only thing I remember was Reed speaking AFTER Doom's death, saying that Victor had cleared Reed using the "hounds" (?). And then, Reed was allowed to use the hounds to clear some others?

Did Doom ever CLEAR Mr. Fantastic? In thread? Or was all this trust built on Doom choosing Reed as his prelate, and then Reed saying post-Doom that Doom had cleared him?

[Vision]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

The day starts with Cable declaring he may not be lynched and ends with a flurry of attacks between the remaining heroes.

Vision finds himself under assault from Mr.Fantastic. Mr.Fantastic, the proud possessor of the Cosmic Control Rod, unleashes its fury at the andriod. He also aims another device at him, which spews fire. However, Vision becomes intangible and the attacks pass through him. The same result happens with Punisher's shots.

Scarlet Witch and Vision take aim at Mr.Fantastic, whose rubbery skins does not stand up well to solar energy and witchcraft. However, neither blow was mighty enough to take down the scientist.

Cable finds himself the target of several attacks, most notably Ghost Rider, Spider-Man, and Magneto. He is able to withstand the punishment, but looks worse for the wear than any of today's combatants.

No lynch, Night 10 is underway. Oh, and Galactus moves closer to eating the planet! Hmmm, don't think that mechanic is working very well at this point ...

[OOC:


AAAAARGH!!!!!!

[Mr.Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Vision

I am sickened at this thought, but we have been treating Mr. Fantastic for days as cleared.

Can someone (perhaps you, Reed?) refresh my memory of what exactly cleared Dr. Richards?

Honestly, there were posts I missed or skimmed very quickly due to being on shortly before deadline at least twice. The only thing I remember was Reed speaking AFTER Doom's death, saying that Victor had cleared Reed using the "hounds" (?). And then, Reed was allowed to use the hounds to clear some others?

Did Doom ever CLEAR Mr. Fantastic? In thread? Or was all this trust built on Doom choosing Reed as his prelate, and then Reed saying post-Doom that Doom had cleared him?

Doom cleared me with the hounds, I cleared mimic, Doom cleared Nick Fury and Jean grey, I outed Kang, the hounds died after that.


I am pretty done with trying to argue my case about you and scarlet witch though. Tommorrow's lynch should be cable, but after that don't think I won't be coming after you two. Everyone should obviously see what you two are up to by now. At this point I don't have any thing further to say.

[Vision]

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY TELLING ME THAT CABLE WAS STILL IN PLAY, AND EVERYONE ATTACKED ME BECAUSE OF THE G D TIMING OF MY POSSESSION ATTEMPT?

SERIOUSLY?

I SAW CABLE'S SPECIAL, AND LET ME GUESS, REED TOLD EVERYONE, "OH WELL, I GUESS WE AREN'T ALLOWED TO ATTACK CABLE, GOTTA KILL VISION!!!"

I SWEAR TO GOD I AM HULKING THE HELL OUT!

[hoopsguy]

Magneto is no longer Prelate #3, due to a majority vote to remove him from office.

[Scarlet Witch]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fantastic

Doom cleared me with the hounds, I cleared mimic, Doom cleared Nick Fury and Jean grey, I outed Kang, the hounds died after that.


I am pretty done with trying to argue my case about you and scarlet witch though. Tommorrow's lynch should be cable, but after that don't think I won't be coming after you two. Everyone should obviously see what you two are up to by now. At this point I don't have any thing further to say.

I agree that tomorrow's lynch should be Cable also. I figure by the next day, we'll be in a much different place then we are now, so it might be moot.