09-14-2011, 01:36 PM | #4851 | |
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Eight 8-team pods with automatic Pod Champion playoff berths, plus another 2 or 4 wild cards from the remainder, determined by a committee which would also seed all 10 or 12 teams. Top 2 or 4 teams get byes the first week of the playoffs, set up like a mini-March Madness bracket. Rest of the teams play in bowl games.
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09-14-2011, 02:27 PM | #4852 | |
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09-14-2011, 03:13 PM | #4853 | |
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I was thinking about the pods this morning too. I think I'd go with a mix of the two; four 16-team conferences, each with two 8-team divisions, but each division then consists of two pods. Each year you play your pod (3 games), the other pod in your division (4 games), then rotate the pods from the other divisions (4). Really the "pods" are there more to organize what teams from the other division you play which year.
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09-14-2011, 04:31 PM | #4854 | |
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09-14-2011, 05:28 PM | #4855 |
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Personally I would drop Iowa State and put Fresno State. But I hate Iowa State. Seeing them drop into Division II would be a cool thing.
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09-14-2011, 06:14 PM | #4859 |
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MBBF is the most ignored regular poster on FOFC. There is a reason for that.
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09-14-2011, 06:17 PM | #4860 |
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I think MBBF is a good guy who has some strange mental blocks that relate to Missouri athletics. Which wouldn't be the first time someone has an irrational connection to their team or school - a lot of us have at least at some point in our lives. It's certainly nothing that makes me root against Missouri, and I think it's a little odd that anyone would have that reaction.
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09-14-2011, 06:47 PM | #4861 |
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Sigh....this bullshit that is going on, as a fan of a school that is actually caught in the middle of all of it...is beginning to hate this.
Our Rivalry week is this week, all I see on our top MB is post after post of the Big 12. Ugh.
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09-14-2011, 07:02 PM | #4863 | |
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If it were just related to athletics, I'd think you have a point. GoldenEagle and EaglesFan27 are two that jump to mind whose posts for their school are much different than on other topics. But MBBF acts this way in most other topics he posts about.
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09-14-2011, 09:42 PM | #4864 |
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He's got a strange mental block that pertains to just about everything, really.
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09-15-2011, 07:00 AM | #4865 | |
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This is from an ESPN article. I hadn't heard anything about Missouri to the ACC until seeing it here:
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09-15-2011, 07:19 AM | #4866 |
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Missouri in the ACC? Cool, more cannon fodder for VT
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09-15-2011, 04:32 PM | #4868 | |
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09-15-2011, 05:23 PM | #4869 |
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I can assure you, that no matter who the ACC loses, they aren't adding Mizzou.
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09-15-2011, 07:25 PM | #4871 |
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Who is this MBBF character you speak of? I vaguely remember something about like that from years ago before we had an ignore option on the board...
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09-15-2011, 07:43 PM | #4872 | |
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09-15-2011, 08:32 PM | #4874 |
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Another article on OU meeting. Spends quite a bit of time discussing that MU is waiting on OU before making their decision.
Oklahoma Sooners regents to meet on Big 12 Conference affiliation Monday - ESPN Another article suggesting that UT is left with few options due to overplaying their hand....... http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-foo...acc-acceptance Last edited by Mizzou B-ball fan : 09-15-2011 at 09:26 PM. |
09-16-2011, 12:13 AM | #4875 |
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Texas has always had few viable options if they insist on keeping their Longhorn Network intact. And they'll have multiple options if/when they relinquish that requirement. It's all part of the negotiating process.
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09-16-2011, 08:26 AM | #4876 |
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I still don't see how any of this is bad for Texas. They will still be a power, they have their own TV deal, and any conference would love to have them (of course for the right price). The idea that Texas cares what MU and OU are doing is laughable.
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09-16-2011, 08:54 AM | #4877 |
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What conference is going to take Texas and allow them to keep the LHN as is? That's what put us in this mess to begin with. Only the ACC, and that's just a rumor because people are speculating ESPN might be willing to make it worth the ACC's while to take them and let them keep it.
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09-16-2011, 09:10 AM | #4878 |
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This won't end bad for Texas, it's just that their control and situation will be less than it is now. If the Big 12 stays together, it's because Texas makes some concessions on revenue and content on LHN. If they go to another conference, it will be the same deal. Going independent may seem attractive, but it's not a panacea.
The only reason people are "excited" about the prospects of Texas getting hosed is that they spent 15 years hosing the Big 12. They pushed as much as they could and built alliances like an episode of Survivor. The LHN is just a final example; they misled the rest of the conference on the content and timing of the network and expected everyone to take it as usual. |
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As is? I could see the ACC using it to found an ACC Network and let Texas keep extra cash for having funded the startup. ESPN would love it for ACC basketball...
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09-16-2011, 09:16 AM | #4880 |
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That's not as is. It's the Longhorn Network for a reason - branding and egocentric coverage. If Texas was OK with it being turned into something else, then why wouldn't they just go to the PAC-16 and turn it into the PacTex Network with TT?
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The ACC, the Big East, or a reconstituted Big 12. I am leaning more and more toward thinking that they will reform the Big 12 (anywhere between 8-12 schools) and see how well it serves them. Texas, Baylor, Texas Tech, Iowa State, Kansas State, and probably Kansas and Missouri are obviously good enough to keep their BCS bid. As a conference, their average attendance would probably still be higher than or equivalent to all the other BCS conferences aside from the SEC and Big Ten, so they would still be able to keep a quality bowl line up (or probably still better than the Pac, ACC, and BE). With Texas and Kansas, they have the foundation for a strong basketball conference. Add in Houston, Air Force, and then see if they want to try develop a potential program like maybe Tulsa, New Mexico, UTEP, or even go outside the box like Memphis or UCF. |
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09-16-2011, 09:41 AM | #4882 | |
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Wow. Talk about worst case scenerio for Mizzou. Outside of KU, ISU, and KSU (with the last two being stretches) I have no interest in any of those teams. We will have lost 4 of the Big 8 schools at that point. I hope Mizzou doesn't get stuck with this. |
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Texas is in a bad spot because they've managed to piss off both the teams they've bullied and the team's they've allied with in a business sense.
Texas could always get away with unequal revenue sharing becase they had allies in OU, Nebraska, and A&M. Teams that are getting on TV a lot because they are national names, were pretty good, or both. They lost Nebraska and A&M because they threw around their power too much in other ways. Nebraska was always weary of Texas due to the academic issues at the beginning, the conference center shifting from North to South, and probably the TV Network. The Ags left because of the TV network and because I think their fans got riled up when Nebraska left last time. That leaves Oklahoma and Texas as the big boys in the conference. Texas has pissed OU off by running the other big names out. OU's interest is to be alligned with a conference that is both a benefit financially and exposure. The inequality of revenue sharing helped financially even if they revenues haven't been quite as high as other major conference as a whole. The exposure is hurting because OU isn't playing as many other big time teams. Texas can make all the concessions they want financially, but it's going to make the deal worse for OU, the team that really controls things. Missouri might also now get hurt by TV-appearance-based revenue. Essentially they've made everyone against them and now they can't appease everybody. They are shooting for the have-nots so they can keep the conference and the network together in some form if they want. |
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That is one of the options that is floating out there.
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Yeah, but isn't that the ONLY option that the PAC12 would allow? And isn't that precisely the problem from Texas' perspective?
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It is in the contract that if Texas moves conferences, then the LHN must be modified to fit the bylaws of the new conference. Yes, they would prefer to keep it as is, but they also saw the need to change if necessary. As some have theorized, the talk of moving to the ACC because they would possibly let the LHN remain unchanged is a bargaining tool in the discussions with the PAC-12. But if push came to shove, and Texas felt that the PAC-12 was their best option, the LHN would be changed to fit into the PAC-12 family of networks.
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From discussions I've had with other OU fans, I'm clearly in the minority, but I really hope that Oklahoma stays and that, somehow someway, the Big 12 can be saved. I think it's a damn shame, nay a travesty, that all of this had to happen with what has been one of the top football conferences around since its inception. Middle America needs a conference, but yet it has all fallen apart due to egos, and when all the chips fall, very few are going to have what they wanted. So very pointless...
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So Texas' Board of Regents schedule meeting for 2 hrs after OU's BOR meet Monday at 1. Bet I can guess outcome of this one: Big 12 funeral.
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Curious what Texas plans to do at this Board of Regents meeting in response to OU. If OU announces it is leaving, does Texas announce the same? Do they declare indpendence? Do they conduct a coup d'etat and start sending out Big 12 invites?
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But it boils down to the options available. The Kansas schools I think would go for a PAC 12 offer to form a division with OU, OSU and CU. I think an invite to the Big East would be preferable to a Big Texas Conference. Interestingly, I heard from a source I trust that Missoui is closer to the SEC than anywhere else. Missouri still wants the Big 10 but they seem set at 12. But MU to the SEC talks will go into hyperdrive if OU bolts. |
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Well, New York Times reporting Pitt and Syracuse negotiating with the ACC. I wasn't expecting that. Guess ACC could get to 16 with them and Texas and Texas Tech. But if Big East picked up pieces og Big 12, they could hang on.
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Looks as if the thought is that Pitt and Syracuse would join as full members. Notre Dame and Texas would join as non-football members, get to keep their individual network deals (NBC and LHN) and would play 4 ACC teams in football per year.
Outside from Rutgers and UConn joining Pitt/Cuse, this is probably the worst case scenario for WVU. Hopefully the SEC rumors are true or this is false. |
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Pit, Cuse, UT and ND? Nice little hoops conference.
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Saw a post on one of the boards on BYU with supposed insider info...
1. Oklahoma isn't bolting 2. Texas caved and will give Oklahoma what they want (ESPN was involved here as well.) 3. BYU will be accepting the invite to the Big 12 as they have gotten what they want out of it. There were other things being thrown around, but I still laugh and do not believe this one bit. Just someone tell me when this is all done, I am just going to watch football until then.
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They do what they always do. They put together a big statement lamenting how other defectors were to blame for the death of the Big 12 and then promptly follow those teams out the door insisting they had no alternative or ability to change the situation. |
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Brett McMurphy confirming that Syracuse and Pitt have sent applications to the ACC: Pitt, Syracuse send ACC letters of application - CBSSports.com
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I don't think WVU has much to worry about. The only question at this point appears to be who the 16th team in the SEC will be. The ACC move would also appear to move them in a position to be the 4th superconference and Big East will be the 5th once they pick up the B12 leftovers. Forgot to add that a Topeka reporter tweeted that KU has been told they have a spot in the ACC if the B12 crumbles. We may have a 'Roy Bowl' in the near future. Last edited by Mizzou B-ball fan : 09-17-2011 at 08:53 AM. |
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I guess the standards must have lowered for the ACC if they want Cuse and Pitt.
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Rutgers stands to gain the most out of the ACC move. With Pitt and Syracuse to ACC and Mizzou/WVU to SEC, they become one of the better remaining options for both the ACC and Big 10.
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