2017 College Football Season thread

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I wondered if it was more like "Uh, Tee ... this is awkward but um ... we weren't calling to talk about you ... we just wondered what you thought about Helton"

[Logan]

Oregon officially hires Cristobal.

Insanity.

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

My wife (the UT alum) & I were talking about Martin a little earlier tonight. Basically that he was never really completely forgiven in Big Orange Country for winning a title when Manning couldn't.

No, people in Knoxville like Tee Martin. He does not need to be forgiven for anything.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Logan

Oregon officially hires Cristobal.

Insanity.

Is it? Cristobal got a raw deal at FIU.

That said, I think the problem with this hire is he has no roots there, and if he does well, he's likely to jump at an offer from a big program back east.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

No, people in Knoxville like Tee Martin. He does not need to be forgiven for anything.

We disagree. I don't think he was EVER fully embraced for the reason I stated.

Folks like Martin, I agree with you. They don't love Martin the way you'd expect a championship winning QB to be loved.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Thanks CU for the in-depth notes. Looking forward to his offense!

The Razorback forum/board is warming up to him.

[PilotMan]

Defending FCS Champion James Madison nearly needed a miracle to win last night. Meanwhile, NDSU plowed Wofford today to move on to the semi finals.

Looking forward to the South Dakota State/New Hampshire game in South Dakota next. Winner plays JM.

The Bison will most likely face Sam Houston next week in the semis. A game they should win to seal another trip to Frisco. Then I'd love to see JMU/SDSU in the other semi.

[digamma]

Five total possessions in the second half of the Army-Navy game. And not boring in the least. Sing second, Army!

[tarcone]

That Army-Navy game was a great one.

Lots of good stuff there.

[Breeze]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Is it? Cristobal got a raw deal at FIU.

That said, I think the problem with this hire is he has no roots there, and if he does well, he's likely to jump at an offer from a big program back east.

My thoughts exactly...

[stevew]

UT could owe Schiano 20M? Wtf

[dawgfan]

Question for the board - what awards do you find more worthwhile? Those voted on by coaches in a conference? By fellow players in a conference? Or those voted on by national sportswriters?

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Question for the board - what awards do you find more worthwhile? Those voted on by coaches in a conference? By fellow players in a conference? Or those voted on by national sportswriters?

Coaches. Because they just should know more about the players than anyone else. They hopefully scouted them and gameplanned against them and should have been paying attention.

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Coaches. Because they just should know more about the players than anyone else. They hopefully scouted them and gameplanned against them and should have been paying attention.

I agree with this.

And they watch film extensively. They know the players from other teams inside and out.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by tarcone

I agree with this.

And they watch film extensively. They know the players from other teams inside and out.

But only the teams they play.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

But only the teams they play.

Aren’t they also getting some insight on the opposing teams on the film they watch? Washington didn’t play USC this season, but they would have seen them on film at least a few times when scouting other teams on their schedule that had played the Trojans.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Aren’t they also getting some insight on the opposing teams on the film they watch? Washington didn’t play USC this season, but they would have seen them on film at least a few times when scouting other teams on their schedule that had played the Trojans.

But thats not how they are looking at it.
When a coach gets a film cut, typically it will be 1/2 on schedule. 3rd long 3rd short. And its typically an all 11. They are looking for an evaluation of formations/flow/weaknesses.

Even then, the one filling out those nominations is usually the SID and the HC may or may not even know what the SID writes on the ballot.

In fact many head coaches in college today arent even involved in the film review anymore.

[CrescentMoonie]

Troy -7 (EVEN)
Georgia State +7 (-105)
Boise State +7.5 (-110)
Marshall +3.5 (-110)
Arkansas State -3.5 (-110)

Parlay

We'll see how it goes.

[PilotMan]

For those of you interested in the FCS.

It's all come down to the top 2 teams in the nation. NDSU destroyed Sam Houston State, while defending Champ James Madison forced 7 turnovers en route to a complete wipeout of South Dakota State.

James Madison beat NDSU last year, ending our 5 straight championship run, and went on to win the whole thing. So either they win and repeat as FCS champs or NDSU brings the trophy back to North Dakota for the 6th time in 7 years.

January 6.

The break means that lots can change. Hot teams cool off, both teams are hot right now. Gotta lean toward #1 JM as the favs, but NDSU isn't giving up much.

[CrescentMoonie]

Akron +23.5
Louisiana Tech +4
Temple -7
UAB +7.5
Central Michigan +3

[Chief Rum]

Driving home and listening to the Clay Travis show.

My God, there ain't enough Listerine in the world to remove the rank whiff of Lane Kiffin's s*** c**k from Travis's breath.

[CU Tiger]

Ha..I love this early signing day. lol

[MrBug708]

A lot of upset fan bases because of Carmen

[CU Tiger]

Really didnt think there was much shot at Carman, primarily because his mother Loved Clemson.

The whole reason he was leaving Ohio is he wanted to be a rebel, he likes going against the grain and shocking people. That's why Clemson thought they had a chance after his U-OV. Then momma came along on his OV and fell in love. But the more you heard from folks around him the more scared you got. That momma liked Clemson might be the death knell in their chances.

Clemson coaches didnt know until about 10AM this morning that he was coming.

[CrescentMoonie]

USF -3
Army +7
Toledo -7
Houston -2.5

[tarcone]

Do you have a local bookie or is there somewhere online you do your parlay cards?
I love doing parlays

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by tarcone

Do you have a local bookie or is there somewhere online you do your parlay cards?
I love doing parlays

Just Bovada.

[MrBug708]

Josh Rosen, the likely first overall pick, will sit out the Cactus Bowl

[Young Drachma]

Shout out to Wyoming with the bowl win in Boise yesterday.

[CrescentMoonie]

No wonder I can't bet the Cactus Bowl. Bovada still has it locked because Cutler 2.0 isn't playing.

[CrescentMoonie]

West Virginia +5
Duke -5.5
KState -3 (can't bet due to the Show Pony not playing)
Southern Miss +17
Boston College +3
Texas +3
Arizona -3
Navy -1
Oklahoma State -4
TCU -3
Washington State -Even
aTm -3
NC State -6.5
Kentucky +7.5
Utah State -4
USC +7
Louisville -7
Memphis -3.5
Washington +3
Miami +7

Did 4 moneylines through those games:

WVU +210
Kentucky +250
USC +245
Miami +190
Parlay +10755

[CrescentMoonie]

South Carolina +7.5
Auburn -10
LSU -3
Oklahoma +1.5
Clemson +2.5

Moneyline:
South Carolina +250
Oklahoma +105
Clemson +130

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

No wonder I can't bet the Cactus Bowl. Bovada still has it locked because Cutler 2.0 isn't playing.

I feel confident in his NFL success now

[CU Tiger]

South Carolina is going go get shut down by Michigan.
Looks at their splits against top 50 defenses.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

South Carolina is going go get shut down by Michigan.
Looks at their splits against top 50 defenses.

Michigan was 0-4 against teams over .500. Their defense gave up 73 points in the two games against Terrible 14 teams to score over 300 points on the season. Their 3 non conference opponents scored 168 (Florida), 169 (Cincinnati), and 257 (Air Force) points on the season.

South Carolina isn't great, but they played in a much better conference and should win outright.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

South Carolina is going go get shut down by Michigan.
Looks at their splits against top 50 defenses.

Agree! A good comparison would be the Florida game in which Michigan just completely shut down that offense. Like 24-7 final this game should end up.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

Michigan was 0-4 against teams over .500. Their defense gave up 73 points in the two games against Terrible 14 teams to score over 300 points on the season. Their 3 non conference opponents scored 168 (Florida), 169 (Cincinnati), and 257 (Air Force) points on the season.

South Carolina isn't great, but they played in a much better conference and should win outright.

I know Michigan isn't great, I agree.
But SC plays in the SECE.
Half the teams they played fired their coach this year. When they played teams with a pulse they couldn't move the ball.

I expect this game to be 24-7 ish.

[tarcone]

Iowa with the big win. We dominated the 2nd half.

Field was atrocious. It was literally a skating rink.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

I know Michigan isn't great, I agree.
But SC plays in the SECE.
Half the teams they played fired their coach this year. When they played teams with a pulse they couldn't move the ball.

I expect this game to be 24-7 ish.

I can't imagine either team scoring 24. I'm expecting what MSU-Michigan looked like and the SEC East was better than either side of the B1G this year.

[lungs]

That fake kneel down by Purdue was pretty sweet.

[JPhillips]

That could not have been executed more perfectly.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

I can't imagine either team scoring 24. I'm expecting what MSU-Michigan looked like and the SEC East was better than either side of the B1G this year.

The B1G is 2-0 ATS and overall thus far. Hopefully, you didnt get all crazy on your anti-B1G wagers.

PS The B1G East is better than the SEC East this year. Not even a debate unless Georgia wins it all.

[cartman]

Nice win for the Longhorns. In a strange, but very deserving move, the Texas punter was named the MVP of the game. 10 of his 11 punts were inside the 20, with a good chunk those inside the 5.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by cartman

Nice win for the Longhorns. In a strange, but very deserving move, the punter was named the MVP of the game. 10 of his 11 punts were inside the 20, with a good chunk those inside the 5.

He was amazing. Made it difficult for Mizzou to get momentum on offense and put the defense in nice situations.

[MrBug708]

Really wishing we had some more talk about the Missouri-Texas "drama". The Mizzou fans are pretty upset, I thought it was funny and refreshing to see personality on the sidelines.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Really wishing we had some more talk about the Missouri-Texas "drama". The Mizzou fans are pretty upset, I thought it was funny and refreshing to see personality on the sidelines.

I thought it was pretty funny myself. I was embarrassed when Lock (our QB that Hermann was mocking) did it after throwing one TD after numerous 3 and outs. On the flip side in the society we live in today I would think this will hurt Hermann ("so unprofessional etc") more than it will help.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by cartman

Nice win for the Longhorns. In a strange, but very deserving move, the Texas punter was named the MVP of the game. 10 of his 11 punts were inside the 20, with a good chunk those inside the 5.

Yeah that guy was incredible. The thing is before last night our punter had been pretty solid himself all season but your punter just kept getting it inside the 5 and your coverage guys were actually catching them instead of the usual off their hands into the endzone for a touchback.

[cartman]

Navy took Virginia out behind the woodshed. Their QB ran for 5 touchdowns. 76 running plays, and only one pass play called for the Midshipmen.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by lungs

That fake kneel down by Purdue was pretty sweet.

Apparently the refs told the Arizona players to take it easy on the kneeldowns to just finish out the half. If so, kinda lame to run a fake play like that, but what can you do?

[lungs]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Apparently the refs told the Arizona players to take it easy on the kneeldowns to just finish out the half. If so, kinda lame to run a fake play like that, but what can you do?

Yeah, that is kind of lame. If teams are going to be running fake kneel downs, don't get upset when some d-lineman goes all out on an actual kneel down.