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Old 07-01-2008, 08:22 PM   #201
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Game over

I'm the seer

I scanned Packerfanatic. He is a vampire.

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Old 07-01-2008, 08:23 PM   #202
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:23 PM   #203
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you really wanna force me to unleash the SallyRage dont you?


[innervoice]wait a minute....that makes it sound like i might be a chick...i dont want the whole board to think i'm a girl, do i?[/innervoice]

Sorry Saldana, SallyRage just doesn't have the same catch to it that OlieRage does...

...alright, since you are being nice about it...

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Old 07-01-2008, 08:23 PM   #204
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btw, I scanned PF because despite yhe evidence he kepy his vote on St. Cronin and left Clap completely alone
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:23 PM   #205
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I know I'm dead, but wow!
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:23 PM   #206
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This is like the opposite of the draft game.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:23 PM   #207
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VOTE PACKERFANATIC
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C'mon guys - let's make this the shortest game in the history of WW!!!!
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:24 PM   #208
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we can just start over tonight with the first deadline tomorrow?
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:24 PM   #209
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VOTE PACKERFANATIC
VOTE NIGHTFALL

C'mon guys - let's make this the shortest game in the history of WW!!!!

Damn, forgot to bold it...

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Old 07-01-2008, 08:24 PM   #210
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BTW, I knew Lathum was the seer. It was pretty obvious to me from his actions towards clap. I was really surprised he wasn't NKed.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:25 PM   #211
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we can just start over tonight with the first deadline tomorrow?

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Old 07-01-2008, 08:25 PM   #212
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BTW, I knew Lathum was the seer. It was pretty obvious to me from his actions towards clap. I was really surprised he wasn't NKed.

What do you mean? It's not like he had a night scan in and could drop hints or anything...
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:25 PM   #213
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I rule.

I think I rule
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:26 PM   #214
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BTW, I knew Lathum was the seer. It was pretty obvious to me from his actions towards clap. I was really surprised he wasn't NKed.

i though I was dead for sure.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:27 PM   #215
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What do you mean? It's not like he had a night scan in and could drop hints or anything...

Go back and read the way he challenged clap. I don't know, it seemed obvious to me that the seer was either clap or Lathum.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:28 PM   #216
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I would love to be inside PackerFanatics head right now
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:29 PM   #217
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Go back and read the way he challenged clap. I don't know, it seemed obvious to me that the seer was either clap or Lathum.

Oh - with Clap's fake reveal...gotcha. I'd forgotten about that.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:29 PM   #218
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Sweet. I was worried I would have to defend myself.

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Old 07-01-2008, 08:30 PM   #219
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I would love to be inside PackerFanatics head right now

I'm guessing it's something like this...
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:30 PM   #220
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I'm still new...what does vote nightfall mean?
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:31 PM   #221
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4 PackerFanatic: Lathum (201), Cronin (202), Oliegirl (209), JetsIn06 (218)

3 Nightfall: Cronin (202), Lathum (208), Oliegirl (209)
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:31 PM   #222
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i wish i could say i had the same hunch as cronin, but i missed that...good show lathum.

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Old 07-01-2008, 08:33 PM   #223
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I'm still new...what does vote nightfall mean?
in some games, the GM will let us vote nightfall, which means we want to end the day immediately because we are confident in our vote, and dont want to wait for the deadline...not all GMs allow it, so we have to see if The Jackal will end it
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:34 PM   #224
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dola, usually it has to be a unanimous vote (except for the person getting lynched) or at least a vast majority
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:36 PM   #225
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I was going to try and not reveal so early, but I don't see how I can avoid it at this point. I am the Seer NOT Lathum, unless somehow I missed that there are 2 of us. I scanned Olie and she came up good so I didn't see a point in revealing that. I don't see how Lathum's play is helping the wolves other than taking any and all heat off of himself. I don't know who the wolf would be, and I don't think a wolf would make this play since after PF was hung we would automatically go for Lathum, but that would give the wolf another night to NK. So...

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Old 07-01-2008, 08:37 PM   #226
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I'm serious. Nightfall and start the game over
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:37 PM   #227
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I was going to try and not reveal so early, but I don't see how I can avoid it at this point. I am the Seer NOT Lathum, unless somehow I missed that there are 2 of us. I scanned Olie and she came up good so I didn't see a point in revealing that. I don't see how Lathum's play is helping the wolves other than taking any and all heat off of himself. I don't know who the wolf would be, and I don't think a wolf would make this play since after PF was hung we would automatically go for Lathum, but that would give the wolf another night to NK. So...

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Old 07-01-2008, 08:37 PM   #228
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Mrs. Schmidty = cultist?
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:38 PM   #229
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I was going to try and not reveal so early, but I don't see how I can avoid it at this point. I am the Seer NOT Lathum, unless somehow I missed that there are 2 of us. I scanned Olie and she came up good so I didn't see a point in revealing that. I don't see how Lathum's play is helping the wolves other than taking any and all heat off of himself. I don't know who the wolf would be, and I don't think a wolf would make this play since after PF was hung we would automatically go for Lathum, but that would give the wolf another night to NK. So...

VOTE LATHUM
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Mrs S, I really don't see why Lathum would lie...do you have a win condition separate from the villagers?
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:40 PM   #230
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Nope, I just win with the villagers.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:40 PM   #231
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I would love to be inside PackerFanatics head right now

No you don't :-P
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:40 PM   #232
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The prisoner doesn't know the identity of the vampires, per the rules. So Mrs. Schmidty's vote for clap may have been a guess that he WAS the seer.

Not a bad play on her part if I'm right - if she can get us to lynch Lathum, then the next day we lynch her, leaving the vampire in the game a couple of extra days.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:45 PM   #233
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The prisoner doesn't know the identity of the vampires, per the rules. So Mrs. Schmidty's vote for clap may have been a guess that he WAS the seer.

Not a bad play on her part if I'm right - if she can get us to lynch Lathum, then the next day we lynch her, leaving the vampire in the game a couple of extra days.

Or the truth which is right now we're down to 8 players - 6 villagers, 1 wolf and 1 cultist - 6:2. If we let Lathum have his way then it's 4:2 (after the lynch and NK). We would then kill Lathum tomorrow after he comes up cultist since PF is most likey a villager so then we would be 3:2 - after NK we'd be 2:2 and we'd lose.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:47 PM   #234
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Your math is off.

Anyway why reveal today, instead of waiting? The smart play, if you're actually the seer, is to lay low and scan Lathum tonight.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:47 PM   #235
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I trust Lathum

STILL VOTING PACKERFANATIC
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:49 PM   #236
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Or the truth which is right now we're down to 8 players - 6 villagers, 1 wolf and 1 cultist - 6:2. If we let Lathum have his way then it's 4:2 (after the lynch and NK). We would then kill Lathum tomorrow after he comes up cultist since PF is most likey a villager so then we would be 3:1 - after NK we'd be 2:1 and still be in good shape.

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Old 07-01-2008, 08:50 PM   #237
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The prisoner doesn't know the identity of the vampires, per the rules. So Mrs. Schmidty's vote for clap may have been a guess that he WAS the seer.

Not a bad play on her part if I'm right - if she can get us to lynch Lathum, then the next day we lynch her, leaving the vampire in the game a couple of extra days.


not really though...if we lynch lathum, and he really is the seer, then we lynch PF and the game is still over.who cares about her if she is just the prisoner.

right now, we are at 1 vamp to 7 villagers, one of whom is the prisoner...if we listen to her and lynch lathum, it goes to 1 to 6, they get a NK and it goes to 1 to 5, and then we lynch packer fan anyway.

if we listen to lathum, we lynch PF today, it goes to 1 to 6, they get a night kill and it goes to 1 to 5...we then have a 20 percent chance to get the last wolf (leaving lathum alive at that point is benficial to the village)

if we miss in that 1 in 5, it goes 1 to 4, then 1 to three after their last night kill....we will know that lathum is the prisoner, and then have a 3 way crap shoot to get to the end....odds for them are REALLY bad
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:51 PM   #238
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fixed

The math was right originally, check it again:
8 left
6 good
2 bad
so..6:2
tomorrow vote PF be at 5:2
wolves kill 4:2
Lynch Lathum for lying 3:2
wolves kill 2:2
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:53 PM   #239
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Or the truth which is right now we're down to 8 players - 6 villagers, 1 wolf and 1 cultist - 6:2. If we let Lathum have his way then it's 4:2 (after the lynch and NK). We would then kill Lathum tomorrow after he comes up cultist since PF is most likey a villager so then we would be 3:2 - after NK we'd be 2:2 and we'd lose.


the prisoner counts as a villager, but wins with the wolves
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:53 PM   #240
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Oh..just reread the roles, I see the prisoner couns as a villager - i was going with him counting as a wolf thus the 6:2 down to 2:2
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:54 PM   #241
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it is impossible for me to be the prisoner.

the only way this move makes sense if I am the prisoner is if I knew a wolf was scanned last night. No way for me to know it.

Mrs Schmidty is the prisoner, she knows there is no reason for me to lie so she made this move.

A valient effort but no way it works.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:55 PM   #242
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That's five nightfall votes for Packer, right?
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:57 PM   #243
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I think so
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:57 PM   #244
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The math was right originally, check it again:
8 left
6 good
2 bad
so..6:2
tomorrow vote PF be at 5:2
wolves kill 4:2
Lynch Lathum for lying 3:2
wolves kill 2:2

its all irrelevant..

8 left
7 villagers
1 vamp
lynch PF to go 6 to 1, but in the process out the prisoner, and gain you, olie, and PF as cleared....the next lynch would have to be me, cronin, or jets06...the night kill would be one of the cleared, making it 5 to 1...the only candidate left would be jets06.

we would have to screw up amazingly badly to lose at this point.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:57 PM   #245
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As of post 242

5
PackerFanatic: Lathum (201), Cronin (202), Oliegirl (209), JetsIn06 (218), Saldana (222),
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Lathum: Mrs, Schmidty (225)

6 Nightfall:
Cronin (202), Lathum (208), Oliegirl (209), Saldana (222), Mrs. Schmidty (225), JetsIn06 (235)
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:58 PM   #246
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I absolutely can't change my vote, Lathum's lying.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:59 PM   #247
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anyone else notice that packerfan has been here and didnt deny anything...no defense at all...actually made a kind of concession type post.
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Old 07-01-2008, 09:00 PM   #248
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lets end this and start over.

only the 11 of us will know.

And clap isn't that bright, he may think it is some weird mechanic
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Old 07-01-2008, 09:00 PM   #249
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anyone else notice that packerfan has been here and didnt deny anything...no defense at all...actually made a kind of concession type post.

i did
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Old 07-01-2008, 09:02 PM   #250
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why did jackal leave
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