Football Manager 2014 - Full Game Out Now! - Page 4

JetsIn06 · 10-23-2013, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Shepp

How do you get through a season so fast? Do you use the Classic Mode? One of the biggest issues I've had with FM over the last couple of years is how I can only get through a handful of seasons during a real time year.

Don't sleep

DaddyTorgo · 10-23-2013, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsIn06

Don't sleep

This too. It helps that I don't sleep and I'm single. I can usually get in at least 6 good hours a night of gameplay.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 10-23-2013, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Nope - not classic mode.

Just powering through...playing far too much. Given I've dabbled a little with a Bilbao savegame that's a few matches into the season, and fallen asleep in front of it a couple times (maybe that added 8 hours?) but have primarily been playing with my Juve squad, I've put in 69 hours on the beta so far. And that includes the offseason and the first couple games of Season 2. So maybe...40 or so hours a season at this point? Which should realistically go down a bit as I get deeper into the game and squad/tactics/etc. get more "settled."

-I delegate out training and youth team management to my AssMan
-I don't mind subscribing to a lot of news, but have learned to really only read the relevant stuff, unless I want to dip my toes in and see what's up in the world occasionally
-Scouting reports on players - I won't look at them unless my Scout comes back with a rating that's either 4* or 5* or it's a position I'm looking actively to improve and I've temporarily set a lower bar
-I've actually probably been going slower than usual so far this game because I've been handling the press conferences myself
-I tend to stick within a relatively narrow tactics band once I get something that works for my squad

I've got a bit of a quandary on my hands. I'm very excited about the cross play between the Vita and the PC version. One problem: after around 40 hours of play in Classic mode (never played it before because I previously was FM12), I'm not sure I like it. It's a bit too neutered for my taste. I like to have a bit more involvement than it allows.

So now I'm faced with doing two different careers (one PC, one Vita) or having to stick with what I feel is only a so-so version of FM. I think I'm going to play a season in regular mode during the second half of the beta just to get a feel for how much I'm missing or not missing.

DaddyTorgo · 10-23-2013, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I've got a bit of a quandary on my hands. I'm very excited about the cross play between the Vita and the PC version. One problem: after around 40 hours of play in Classic mode (never played it before because I previously was FM12), I'm not sure I like it. It's a bit too neutered for my taste. I like to have a bit more involvement than it allows.

So now I'm faced with doing two different careers (one PC, one Vita) or having to stick with what I feel is only a so-so version of FM. I think I'm going to play a season in regular mode during the second half of the beta just to get a feel for how much I'm missing or not missing.

Yeah - that's tricky. I dunno.

If FMH had a bit more involvement in some aspects and was cross-platform with PC regular-mode I could see myself spiraling down that rabbit hole myself.

I don't have a Vita though.

JetsIn06 · 10-23-2013, 03:57 PM

Well fuck. Game ran PERFECTLY, just updated the game, and now it crashed. UGH.

JetsIn06 · 10-23-2013, 04:00 PM

Anddddd crashed again. Same spot both times.

DaddyTorgo · 10-23-2013, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsIn06

Anddddd crashed again. Same spot both times.

That's not good!!

JetsIn06 · 10-23-2013, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

That's not good!!

Yea, I loaded, went ahead like 2 days, and then crashed. Trying to reinstall from a clean slate, deleted all of the logos and graphics etc

JetsIn06 · 10-23-2013, 04:40 PM

Yea, not working. Based on all of the crash reports on SI's site, I'd recommend turning off auto updates on Steam for a bit until it's sorted out.

MrBug708 · 10-23-2013, 06:08 PM

Did you try going on vacation to get past the buggy spot?

DaddyTorgo · 10-23-2013, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsIn06

Yea, not working. Based on all of the crash reports on SI's site, I'd recommend turning off auto updates on Steam for a bit until it's sorted out.

Really? Yuck.

JetsIn06 · 10-23-2013, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Did you try going on vacation to get past the buggy spot?

Yea.

There's definitely a major, major bug somewhere. Think it's different dates for everyone, but there's literally an entire page worth of bugs all similar to what happened to me on the SI boards.

Back to my FM13 save for now, I guess

Edit: For anyone interested, I got a response from SI Tech Support, they're aware of the issue, and they're looking into it for fix by release. Somehow that doesn't inspire confidence and I'm sorta bummed that I can't play until then. I even tried starting a new game, same issue.

flere-imsaho · 10-24-2013, 07:13 AM

Hey, that's why it's a beta!

JetsIn06 · 10-24-2013, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Hey, that's why it's a beta!

I know! I understand it, just wish I could play!

DaddyTorgo · 10-24-2013, 11:20 PM

My Bilbao squad with my crazy 4-1-5-0 tactic just drew 1-1 with Barca!!!

And I was a wrongly-disallowed for offside goal away from a 2-1 win! Outshot them in shots on goal 5-3 despite being outpossessed 59-41.

The only adjustments I made were switching from control or attacking to defensive, and dropping it from a "much higher pace" to a "much lower pace"

PilotMan · 10-25-2013, 04:44 PM

Hey, FM might be great but if it can't duplicate this they need to go back to the drawing board for more realism.

jbergey22 · 10-25-2013, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

Hey, FM might be great but if it can't duplicate this they need to go back to the drawing board for more realism.

Yikes, The road teams might as well stay home. This years beta version?

PilotMan · 10-25-2013, 06:58 PM

No, if you saw my post in the soccer forum, it's from the real life Nigerian league this year. Lol.

jbergey22 · 10-25-2013, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

No, if you saw my post in the soccer forum, it's from the real life Nigerian league this year. Lol.

Haha! That is amazing.

PilotMan · 10-25-2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Haha! That is amazing.

I think shenanigans are being called.

DaddyTorgo · 10-25-2013, 10:20 PM

0-0 draw with Real Madrid after being drawn against them in the Quarter Finals of the Spanish Cup.

I actually outshot them 16-5 (despite being outpossessed 44% to 56%), and 7-1 in shots on target, so it was just luck (crossbar, corner cleared off the line) that kept me from an unlikely victory.

Frustrating!!

DaddyTorgo · 10-25-2013, 10:52 PM

3rd place in La Liga after 20 matches (I have 1 game in hand against 2 teams that are 2 points behind, Granada & Valencia). Fortunately Granada face Madrid in their match to draw even on games played (Madrid obviously ahead of me), so they ought to lose.

And Valencia lost to Espanyol, which means I'm securely in 3rd/4th (even on points with Atletico Madrid).

Next up - Real Madrid in the Spanish Cup Quarterfinals, 2nd (away) leg. Time to see if I can steal an improbable win!

DaddyTorgo · 10-25-2013, 11:18 PM

Fixture weirdness bug in Spain.

I had a Spanish Cup draw against Almeria with a La Liga game against them in the middle of it (3 games in 7 days against them). Now I just finished my 2nd leg of the Spanish Cup against Real Madrid and immediately after I have my 2nd La Liga game against THEM.

Alan T · 10-26-2013, 12:56 PM

I had that happen in fm2013 once. Playing as arsenal I ended up having three games in a row vs Chelsea and four out of six games. Had them in the league play, champions cup and the fa cup all at the same time.

bhlloy · 10-26-2013, 01:39 PM

Not sure why that would be a bug - league scheduling is completely independent of cup draws. I'm pretty sure it's happened semi-regularly IRL in the UK

DaddyTorgo · 10-26-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Not sure why that would be a bug - league scheduling is completely independent of cup draws. I'm pretty sure it's happened semi-regularly IRL in the UK

True - not a bug I suppose. Just thought it was interesting and amusing.

Marc Vaughan · 10-26-2013, 06:12 PM

I remember a real-life interview when I was a kid where a team had played the same opposition 4 times in succession - I think it was 2 FA Cup matches (1 normal, 1 replay), 1 league cup match and a league match .... the interview mentioned the manager indicating he was looking forward to playing a different team for a change

DaddyTorgo · 10-27-2013, 12:37 AM

LMAO - match engine bug.

opposing GK just took a backpass and slowly rolled the ball back into his own goal as he had one foot on top of it.

was winning 2-0 in the 88th minute already, so not going to replay it.

As a side effect of that win (over Atletico Madrid) I know how Athletic Bilbao in 3rd place in La Liga by 5pts with 7 matches to go.

DaddyTorgo · 10-27-2013, 09:56 AM

Assuming the Patriots game is going to either be (a) boring, or (b) frustrating, I'm planning on typing up a "Season in Review" type dynasty post later where I can go into my tactic, transfers, notable results, player performance, etc.

JetsIn06 · 10-28-2013, 09:37 PM

New patch is out and my game works again! No sleep tonight!

TroyF · 10-28-2013, 11:36 PM

For those who tweak the graphics, try this one:

Sports Interactive Community

that's a link to the forum. It's new panels and they look really sharp.

korme · 10-28-2013, 11:46 PM

I need a new laptop man. FM runs so slow.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 10-29-2013, 10:06 AM

Big old crash last night. First time I've been in a beta phase with FM before. Really hope the game gets cleaned up in a hurry given that the official release is just a couple of days away.

Marc Vaughan · 10-29-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Big old crash last night. First time I've been in a beta phase with FM before. Really hope the game gets cleaned up in a hurry given that the official release is just a couple of days away.

Bear in mind that the 'beta' runs a fair bit behind the in-house builds.

(simply put any beta put out for public has always had some 'pre-testing' if you got a beta which simply crashed or corrupted saves then you'd be far less than happy - so the 'beta' which is public is great for mass testing and obviously compatibility testing but please don't think its an indication of the 'current state' of the product at present)

Mizzou B-ball fan · 10-29-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

Bear in mind that the 'beta' runs a fair bit behind the in-house builds.

(simply put any beta put out for public has always had some 'pre-testing' if you got a beta which simply crashed or corrupted saves then you'd be far less than happy - so the 'beta' which is public is great for mass testing and obviously compatibility testing but please don't think its an indication of the 'current state' of the product at present)

Fair enough. I'll probably just wait until release at this point.

Grover · 10-29-2013, 12:47 PM

I absolutely love that Arsene Wenger has contacted me because he's upset his on-loan player isn't getting the playing time we had agreed to. Excellent little addition to the game.

DaddyTorgo · 10-29-2013, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Grover

I absolutely love that Arsene Wenger has contacted me because he's upset his on-loan player isn't getting the playing time we had agreed to. Excellent little addition to the game.

This.

DaddyTorgo · 10-29-2013, 12:50 PM

Cloud-sync is imperfect. I don't blame SI, but Valve really needs to step up and make it more reliable. I saved my game last night and watched it "sync" then went to look at it on my lunch break and it wasn't updated.

NoSkillz · 10-29-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Grover

I absolutely love that Arsene Wenger has contacted me because he's upset his on-loan player isn't getting the playing time we had agreed to. Excellent little addition to the game.

Love this.

TroyF · 10-29-2013, 04:39 PM

So many things are in previous versions that I missed, but another thing I like this year is the ability to congratulate a player for scoring his first international goal. It's a nice touch.

I'm still loving the ability to have a list of 8 players who play a position and set up their specific roles and instructions individually. It's a very nice touch.

kmbgolf · 10-30-2013, 02:48 PM

Playing Blackpool I sold my house and everything else to get eden hazards lil bro from chelsea and a wingback from chelsea...saved before the end of transfer it said on there profile moving to blackpool on jan 7.........well jan 7 has passed and no players and my money is gone.Never been so bummed in a game in my 40 yrs of playing games.Cant even get myself to star again.

Northwood_DK · 10-30-2013, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kmbgolf

Playing Blackpool I sold my house and everything else to get eden hazards lil bro from chelsea and a wingback from chelsea...saved before the end of transfer it said on there profile moving to blackpool on jan 7.........well jan 7 has passed and no players and my money is gone.Never been so bummed in a game in my 40 yrs of playing games.Cant even get myself to star again.

Check that you don't have them hidden because of some filter.

McLovin · 10-30-2013, 05:42 PM

How is the game going? Is it safe to start a career save on release or should I wait a few weeks for the first patch?

JetsIn06 · 10-30-2013, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by McLovin

How is the game going? Is it safe to start a career save on release or should I wait a few weeks for the first patch?

The regular release is out in 50 mins, so it's a little early to say. People have reported a few whacky things but from what I've seen it's not bad at all. There will be more fixes in the release coming out tonight according to some SI people on the twitter

kmbgolf · 10-30-2013, 06:52 PM

there not hidden

DaddyTorgo · 10-30-2013, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kmbgolf

there not hidden

They didn't sneak a loan-back provision in there, did they?

If not - that's pretty worrisome...yikes.

SirFozzie · 10-30-2013, 07:45 PM

Full game is out. If you ordered from GMG, you will have to enter a fresh code from Greenmangaming (check your user account)

DaddyTorgo · 10-30-2013, 07:47 PM

My damn AssMan isn't controlling my training right. He's supposed to be doing it, and yet everybody is unhappy their training levels are too light.

JetsIn06 · 10-30-2013, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Full game is out. If you ordered from GMG, you will have to enter a fresh code from Greenmangaming (check your user account)

Thanks for this info....was going crazy when it wasn't updating.

sovereignstar v2 · 10-30-2013, 08:38 PM

Strange. I ordered from GMG and my game updated without having to enter any new code. None too pleased that the game cache and all my views were deleted, but maybe there was a good reason for that.

10-24-2013, 11:20 PM	#165
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	My Bilbao squad with my crazy 4-1-5-0 tactic just drew 1-1 with Barca!!! And I was a wrongly-disallowed for offside goal away from a 2-1 win! Outshot them in shots on goal 5-3 despite being outpossessed 59-41. The only adjustments I made were switching from control or attacking to defensive, and dropping it from a "much higher pace" to a "much lower pace" __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9 Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 10-24-2013 at 11:21 PM.

10-25-2013, 04:44 PM	#166
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Hey, FM might be great but if it can't duplicate this they need to go back to the drawing board for more realism. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

10-25-2013, 06:58 PM	#168
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	No, if you saw my post in the soccer forum, it's from the real life Nigerian league this year. Lol. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

10-25-2013, 10:52 PM	#172
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	3rd place in La Liga after 20 matches (I have 1 game in hand against 2 teams that are 2 points behind, Granada & Valencia). Fortunately Granada face Madrid in their match to draw even on games played (Madrid obviously ahead of me), so they ought to lose. And Valencia lost to Espanyol, which means I'm securely in 3rd/4th (even on points with Atletico Madrid). Next up - Real Madrid in the Spanish Cup Quarterfinals, 2nd (away) leg. Time to see if I can steal an improbable win! __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9 Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 10-25-2013 at 10:58 PM.

10-25-2013, 11:18 PM	#173
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Fixture weirdness bug in Spain. I had a Spanish Cup draw against Almeria with a La Liga game against them in the middle of it (3 games in 7 days against them). Now I just finished my 2nd leg of the Spanish Cup against Real Madrid and immediately after I have my 2nd La Liga game against THEM. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

10-23-2013, 03:57 PM	#155
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	Well fuck. Game ran PERFECTLY, just updated the game, and now it crashed. UGH.

10-23-2013, 04:00 PM	#156
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	Anddddd crashed again. Same spot both times.

10-23-2013, 04:40 PM	#159
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	Yea, not working. Based on all of the crash reports on SI's site, I'd recommend turning off auto updates on Steam for a bit until it's sorted out.

10-23-2013, 06:08 PM	#160
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Did you try going on vacation to get past the buggy spot?

10-24-2013, 07:13 AM	#163
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Hey, that's why it's a beta!

10-25-2013, 10:20 PM	#171
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	0-0 draw with Real Madrid after being drawn against them in the Quarter Finals of the Spanish Cup. I actually outshot them 16-5 (despite being outpossessed 44% to 56%), and 7-1 in shots on target, so it was just luck (crossbar, corner cleared off the line) that kept me from an unlikely victory. Frustrating!!

10-26-2013, 12:56 PM	#174
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	I had that happen in fm2013 once. Playing as arsenal I ended up having three games in a row vs Chelsea and four out of six games. Had them in the league play, champions cup and the fa cup all at the same time. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

10-26-2013, 01:39 PM	#175
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Not sure why that would be a bug - league scheduling is completely independent of cup draws. I'm pretty sure it's happened semi-regularly IRL in the UK

10-26-2013, 06:12 PM	#177
Marc Vaughan SI Games Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL	I remember a real-life interview when I was a kid where a team had played the same opposition 4 times in succession - I think it was 2 FA Cup matches (1 normal, 1 replay), 1 league cup match and a league match .... the interview mentioned the manager indicating he was looking forward to playing a different team for a change

10-27-2013, 12:37 AM	#178
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	LMAO - match engine bug. opposing GK just took a backpass and slowly rolled the ball back into his own goal as he had one foot on top of it. was winning 2-0 in the 88th minute already, so not going to replay it. As a side effect of that win (over Atletico Madrid) I know how Athletic Bilbao in 3rd place in La Liga by 5pts with 7 matches to go. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9 Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 10-27-2013 at 12:38 AM.

10-27-2013, 09:56 AM	#179
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Assuming the Patriots game is going to either be (a) boring, or (b) frustrating, I'm planning on typing up a "Season in Review" type dynasty post later where I can go into my tactic, transfers, notable results, player performance, etc. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

10-28-2013, 09:37 PM	#180
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	New patch is out and my game works again! No sleep tonight!

10-28-2013, 11:36 PM	#181
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	For those who tweak the graphics, try this one: Sports Interactive Community that's a link to the forum. It's new panels and they look really sharp.

10-28-2013, 11:46 PM	#182
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	I need a new laptop man. FM runs so slow.

10-29-2013, 10:06 AM	#183
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Big old crash last night. First time I've been in a beta phase with FM before. Really hope the game gets cleaned up in a hurry given that the official release is just a couple of days away.

10-29-2013, 12:47 PM	#186
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	I absolutely love that Arsene Wenger has contacted me because he's upset his on-loan player isn't getting the playing time we had agreed to. Excellent little addition to the game. __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

10-29-2013, 12:50 PM	#188
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Cloud-sync is imperfect. I don't blame SI, but Valve really needs to step up and make it more reliable. I saved my game last night and watched it "sync" then went to look at it on my lunch break and it wasn't updated. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9 Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 10-29-2013 at 12:51 PM.

10-29-2013, 04:39 PM	#190
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	So many things are in previous versions that I missed, but another thing I like this year is the ability to congratulate a player for scoring his first international goal. It's a nice touch. I'm still loving the ability to have a list of 8 players who play a position and set up their specific roles and instructions individually. It's a very nice touch.

10-30-2013, 02:48 PM	#191
kmbgolf n00b Join Date: Oct 2003	Playing Blackpool I sold my house and everything else to get eden hazards lil bro from chelsea and a wingback from chelsea...saved before the end of transfer it said on there profile moving to blackpool on jan 7.........well jan 7 has passed and no players and my money is gone.Never been so bummed in a game in my 40 yrs of playing games.Cant even get myself to star again.

10-30-2013, 05:42 PM	#193
McLovin Mascot Join Date: Feb 2008	How is the game going? Is it safe to start a career save on release or should I wait a few weeks for the first patch?

10-30-2013, 06:52 PM	#195
kmbgolf n00b Join Date: Oct 2003	there not hidden

10-30-2013, 07:45 PM	#197
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Full game is out. If you ordered from GMG, you will have to enter a fresh code from Greenmangaming (check your user account) __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-30-2013, 07:47 PM	#198
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	My damn AssMan isn't controlling my training right. He's supposed to be doing it, and yet everybody is unhappy their training levels are too light.

10-30-2013, 08:38 PM	#200
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	Strange. I ordered from GMG and my game updated without having to enter any new code. None too pleased that the game cache and all my views were deleted, but maybe there was a good reason for that. Last edited by sovereignstar v2 : 10-30-2013 at 08:38 PM.

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