TEW 08: WCW after the Screwjob

[DeToxRox]

MA 97 is my favorite TEW dynasty, and I've done it with WWF and ECW. Some corrupt files ruined my last game I got into, and I felt like I just needed a break. This time I am going to start over and try to be a little more immersive so I am not booking a hundred shows at once and burning myself out.

So this time I'll be using WCW in a period of time when they were hot as can be, but they were becoming stuck in the mud. The nWo was becoming watered down, and the rest of the WCW talent was being jobbed at the overbloated nWo's expense.

I am still planning some things out but the story should be ready to begin now.

[DeToxRox]

Wrestling Observer Breaking News
Bret Hart's initial WCW plans leaked; plans being feverishly rewritten

Only in WCW could they fumble their biggest acquisition since Hulk Hogan by having loose lips backstage around the boys, causing the plans to leak all over the internet leaving WCW in a big mess just one day away from Bret Hart's Nitro debut.

The plans apparently called for Bret Hart to make his debut as a guest referee in a match between Eric Bischoff and Larry Zbyisko at Starrcade. Yes, you heard that right. The biggest star the WWF had falls into WCW's lap, and this was the best they could do? I know what you all must be thinking -- those lucky bastards just skated on one because no one would possibly think that is a great idea for an angle, and we agree totally.

The news regarding the new storyline is being held close to the vest, but from what we have been told the direction the company plans on going should become far more clear after the first segment of Nitro tomorrow tonight.

We'll keep you posted as more becomes available.

[DeToxRox]

Wrestling Observer Breaking News
Egos clash backstage hours before Nitro takes the air!

WCW just can't keep out of the news over the past 24 hours, and none of it is very good for the company. Apparently there was a blow up backstage at a company meeting between Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff.

The word backstage is Hogan is sick of being forced to share TV time with all of the guys who "can't draw" in nWo, such as Buff Bagwell, Vincent and Scott Norton. He feels the nWo should be for the most elite, and now he is threatening to pull out of his WCW World Title match vs Sting at Starrcade, citing his creative control.

Bischoff, already tense from the Bret Hart fiasco, left the arena in a huff on his Harley, and Hogan has locked himself away in his dressing room with Scott Hall and Kevin Nash.

Apparently Ted Turner has been summoned to the arena to try and rectify this situation.

[DeToxRox]

Wrestling Observer Breaking News
Ted Turner reaches deal with Hulk Hogan -- Bischoff gone?

Just under an hour from Nitro and Bret Hart's WCW debut and the real story is backstage where Ted Turner arrived on the scene with an offer for Hulk Hogan. He promised Hogan an extra 3 million dollars a year, as well as 2 extra years on his contrct in exchange for Hogan vetoing his creative control clause. Apparently Hogan has agreed, and understandably the rest of the crew is ecstatic that for once Hogan doesn't hold all the cars.

On the flipside, Eric Bischoff is still nowhere to be found, leaving Terry Taylor and Dusty Rhoads to finish booking tonights show.

What we do know is that Ted Turner is "furious" as one wrestler put it, and that this wrestler wouldn't be shocked to hear Bischoff has been let go.

More on this tonight after Nitro in our Nitro thoughts column.

[DeToxRox]

WCW Monday Nitro
Monday, Week 1, December 1997
Thompson-Boling Arena (Southeast)
30,000 People -- Sellout

Pre-show Dark Match
Disco Inferno defeated Alex Wright in 7:36 by pinfall with The Last Dance (D)

Pre-Show Dark Match
Sick Boy defeated Super Calo in 7:43 by pinfall with a Cure (E)

Nitro opens up with no music or pyro, just the fans going crazy. Then fireworks explode Bret "The Hitman" Hart comes out from the back to an insane ovation. The crowd chants "Welcome, Bret" but he doesn't acknowlege them. Instead he rolls into the ring and grabs a microphone.

Hart says just last week he was thinking he would be here tonight happy, ready for the next chapter of his life, but instead, he's stuck answering questions about the past. He says that he knows Starrcade is 4 weeks away, and it's the marquee event in wrestling, and because of that he wants everyone in WCW, and everyone at home watching, to knoq that by the end of the night everyone will know what he has in store for WCW! (A)

Chris Jericho defeated Eddy Guerrero in 13:02 by submission with a Lion Tamer (C)

Raven defeated Rey Mysterio Jr. in 12:49 by pinfall with a Piledriver (B-) After the match Raven grabs Rey and plants him with his Evenflow DDT. He then looks into the camera and promises the nightmare is just beginning (C-)

An ominious, brooding music begins playing leaving the audience wondering what is is for. Then a spotlight shines in the rafters where Sting is propelling into the ring. The crowd goes nuts at the savior of WCW's arrival. Then, for the first time in nearly a year, he takes a microphone.

He says that for 12 months he has stayed quiet and let his actions speak louder then words, but still no one in the back has paid attention. He says it has been him vs the nWo, with no help from WCW and he is sick of it. Sting promised the fans he'd rid WCW of the nWo but he thought he had help.

With that, Sting says he is challening Hogan for Starrcade to a Cage Match, since no one in the back has had his back, this is the only way to make things right. He tells Hogan to accept, or he'll have to go out and make sure the nWo doesn't make it to Starrcade; it's his choice! (B+)

The Outsiders defeated Harlem Heat in 12:27 when Kevin Nash defeated Booker T by pinfall with a Jacknife Power Bomb (B-)

As the Outsiders celebrate in the ring, a fired up Ric Flair hits the ring and begins to chop the living hell out of Hall and Nash as the crowd goes wild. Flair grabs a mic and says Sting is right, and even though they have had their issues, Sting and Flair had their issues in WCW, and that means something to him. He says that the nWo is a crock and that Nash is the biggest phony in the business. He lays out an official challenge for Nash at Starrcade, so he can finish what he and Sting started all those years ago! (B+)

Chris Benoit defeated Perry Saturn in 12:44 by pinfall with a Dragon Suplex. Chris Benoit wins the WCW World Television title (C)

Backstage Eric Bischoff arrives (B+)

Diamond Dallas Page defeated Randy Savage in 19:42 by pinfall with a Diamond Cutter (B)

WCW Champion Hollywood Hulk Hogan makes his apperance, strumming the Heavyweight title as a guitar, Hogan continues to make his mockery of WCW. He gets in the ring and tells Sting thanks but no thanks to a cage match. He says he's the champ, and he makes the rules --

With that, an obviously irate Eric Bischoff comes out with no music. Hogan looks concerned as his croney heads up to the ring.

Bisch grabs the mic and says he has dealt with some serious BS these past 24 hours, and he thinks it came right from Hulk Hogan. He says because of that, he is making the Cage match official.

Hogan, in total shock, gets another surprise as Bret Hart comes out with a replica World Title.

Hart comes in the ring and says he left WWF as champion, because how he lost was pure BS. He says therefore he is the champion until someone pins him or makes him submit.

He says he ironed some things out with Bischoff over the phone just before the show, and it has been determined that following Starrcade Bret Hart will be declaed #1 contender and will face the winner at Feburary's SuperBrawl!

Hogan stands shocked as Nitro goes off the air (A*)

Show Rating: B

[DeToxRox]

Wrestling Observer Nitro Report
Bret Hart debuts .. Sting talks ... We have a Starrcade Main Event

Nitro was a solid show last night, and it looks like some huge creative changes are starting to occur. Running down the show:

- Bret Hart opened Nitro with an impassioned promo that set the tone for the rest of the show. I really had no idea what to expect when he said we'd find out his plans for Starrcade at the end of the show, which means WCW did something right for a change.

- Chris Jericho won a solid match vs Eddy Guerrero. We've heard rumblings that Jericho is going to be receiving a big push in the near future, potentially leading to a feud with Chris Benoit. As wrestling fans we could only be so lucky.

- Raven vs Mysterio was another solid match. Raven has become increasingly darker in recent weeks, and the direction he's gone is new for WCW. We all know Scott Levey can work, but will WCW let him do what he wants?

- Sting talking for the first time in a year was a nightmare at first. But then when he called out the rest of the WCW workers, it made perfect sense. Sting has been a man going at it alone and with his moment in the sun coming in a months time it only is fair he watches his own back. Challenging Hogan to the Cage Match was a nice touch as fans love their cages.

- The Outsiders vs Harlem Heat was a physical match that put Hall and Nash over, but the post-match attack and promo by Flair was money. Flair coming to Stings aid for the sake of WCW is a great touch, and then to challenge Nash at Starrcade gives WCW another huge match for their flagship event.

- Chris Benoit defeating Perry Saturn for the TV Title was a nice surprise. The TV title will be defended a lot and Benoit is a guy who can work great matches nightly vs anyone.

- Bischoff arriving was a shock to us. Thankfully it was all explained later.

- DDP beat Savage in a good main event. DDP is starting to get over with his tireless work and his infectious charisma. He has the makings of a future star for WCW.

- The final promo was a thing of beauty. Hogan ducking the challenge only to be screwed over by his "friend" Bischoff was awesome. Hogans reaction was great as he found out he has nowhere to run inside the Cage at Starrcade.

Then Bret Hart coming out with his own World Title and naming himself the real Worlds Champ was great. So now we have a Main Event signed for SuperBrawl as well, as it'll be Champion vs "Champion". Great advanced planning by WCW.

[DeToxRox]

WCW Saturday Night
Thursday, Week 1, December 1997
Draddy Gym (Tri City)
2000 People -- SELLOUT
TV Taping

Pre-show Dark Match
Eddy Guerrero defeated Alex Wright in 7:57 by pinfall with a Frog Splash (D+)

Pre-show Dark Match
Perry Saturn defeated Chavo Guerrero Jr. in 7:55 by pinfall with a Death Valley Driver (D-)

Saturday Night opens with footage of Ric Flair's challenge to Nash for Starrcade. When the video ends we're treated to Nash in the ring. Nash says Flair is a has been who needs to step aside gracefully or else the nWo will remove him maliciously. He says his match for Starrcade ain't happening because around here it's the nWo that makes the rules, not Ric Flair! (A)

Bill Goldberg defeated Brad Armstrong in 7:16 by pinfall with The Spear (E+)

Chris Benoit defeated Chris Jericho in 15:43 by pinfall with a Dragon Suplex. Chris Benoit makes defence number 1 of his WCW World Television title (C)

After the commercial break Chris Jericho is still in the ring clutching his head. He says Benoit cheated and hooked his tights and that it was a fluke. Jericho starts stomping around and kicking the ropes before demanding a rematch with Benoit. Benoit comes back out to the top of the ramp and shakes his head yes, smiling a crooked grin (C+)

A video airs highlighting Diamond Dallas Page (B+)

Dean Malenko defeated Steven Regal in 10:04 by submission with a Texas Cloverleaf (C+)

Backstage Ric Flair is arriving at the building. He spots his best friend Arn Anderson who tells him Nash said no to his challenge. Flair loses it and goes looking for Nash. He spots him at catering and rushes him only be to ambushed by Scott Norton and Buff Bagwell. Together, along with Nash, the three man do a number on Flair before Arn Anderson can make the save (B-)

Curt Hennig defeated Konnan in 8:58 by pinfall with a Hennig Plex. Curt Hennig makes defence number 1 of his WCW United States Heavyweight title (C-)

A video plays recapping the Bret Hart - Hulk Hogan - Sting saga from this past Nitro (B+)

The Giant and Lex Luger defeated The Nasty Boys in 11:28 when The Giant defeated Jerry Saggs by pinfall with a Choke Slam (C-)

Scott Steiner is in the back with Ted DiBise. Steiner claims he is the most dominate force in WCW, and that he along with his brother Rick are the greatest Tag Team Champions in the business. He puts down an open challenge for their belts at Starrcade (B-)

Booker T defeated Ric Flair in 17:39 by pinfall with a Harlem Hangover following interference from Kevin Nash (B-)

Show Rating: B-

[DeToxRox]

WCW News & Notes

- WCW has cut ties with 15 contracted wrestlers. Among the notables were Glacier, Jerry Saggs, Barry Darsow and Bobby Eaton. The cuts were done more as way to deal with a bloated roster then anything financial.

- WCW execs are contemplating cancelling Saturday Night and hoping to get in on talks to feature a new show on either Wednesday or Thursday nights. The ratings for Saturday Night just do not justify the cost of running the show, but on the flipside it's hard to cancel 2 extra hours of TV without a viable alternatives.

- Rumor has it that this week on Nitro that there is a huge challenge that is going to be issued for Starrcade. People within the company speculate this match has the potential to rival Hogan vs Sting.

[General Mike]

good job so far Danny. I like the Hart uncrowned world champ angle.

[DeToxRox]

WCW Monday Nitro
Monday, Week 2, December 1997
Live from America West Arena
15000 People -- Sellout

Pre-show dark match
El Dandy, Shiryu, Silver King and Alex Wright defeated Dave Taylor, Brad Armstrong, Super Calo and Villano IV in 15:39 when Alex Wright defeated Brad Armstrong by submission with a STF (E+)

Chris Benoit defeated Steven Regal in 13:53 by pinfall with a Dragon Suplex. Chris Benoit makes defence number 2 of his WCW World Television title (C)

Rey Mysterio Jr. defeated Juventud Guerrera and Eddy Guerrero in 11:34 when Rey Mysterio Jr. defeated Eddy Guerrero by pinfall with a Springboard Hurracanrana (C)

Kevin Nash comes out to the ring with a smug look on his face. He says on Saturday he and the rest of the nWo did a number on Flair, yet the old man still decided to come to the show tonight. He says he won't get his match vs Nash but he can fight Scott Norton this Saturday (B+)

Raven defeated Mortis in 11:02 by pinfall with a Piledriver (C-)

The second hour of Nitro opens up with "The Hulk Hogan" show. Hogan calls out Bret Hart and Sting, except instead of those two men, two fakes come out. Hogan starts mocking them both, and says that after Starrcade when he gets rid of the pest that is Sting, he can focus his attention to the crybaby that is Bret Hart (A)

A replay airs of the Scott Steiner challenge for Starrcade. Tony Schivanoe says that Randy Savage and the Giant have accepted, but Ted DiBiase has determined that it's in the best interest of the Steiners that Savage and The Giant beat the Steiners first, in a non title match, to earn their shot. That match is next (B+)

The Giant and Randy Savage defeated The Steiner Brothers in 12:56 when The Giant defeated Rick Steiner by pinfall with a Choke Slam (C)

Bill Goldberg defeated Brian Knobbs in 6:06 by pinfall with The Spear (D+)

Scott Hall defeated Ric Flair in 14:39 by disqualification (B) After the match Nash and Hogan hit the ring and start beating on Flair, which leads to Sting and Bret Hart coming out to even things up. The faces clear out the heels, but Hart and Sting share an intense staredown as the nWo flees (B+)

Then from the ramp, an irate Scott Hall says Hart is nothing but a sellout and a liar. He says he got a call from his best friend. A guy he used to be in a "clique" with and he says Bret screwed himself and he should have to pay for what he tried doing back in New York, so Scott Hall is officially challenging Hart to a match at Starrcade so he can prove Hart is nothing more then a damn phony! (A-)

Show Rating: B

[dubb93]

Good job so far. Maybe at some point we will see Scott Hall get the world title run he never saw in real life. He was absolutely money at this time and prehaps the most entertaining wrestler in the business in the late 90s. Hart v Hall would have sold without a doubt.

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Good job so far. Maybe at some point we will see Scott Hall get the world title run he never saw in real life. He was absolutely money at this time and prehaps the most entertaining wrestler in the business in the late 90s. Hart v Hall would have sold without a doubt.

Always had an affinity for Hall myself. I have some plans for the nWo going forward and he is at the focal point of a big angle coming up.

I appreciate the feedback from you and Mike. Its been fun so far.

[Crim]

DeTox - can you give me an idea of what program you're using for this dynasty?

[DeToxRox]

WCW Saturday Night
Thursday, Week 1, December 1997
Pamplin Sports Center
2000 People -- Sellout
TV Taping

Booker T defeated Norman Smiley in 5:59 by pinfall with a Harlem Hangover (C-)

Randy Savage comes out to the ring to address the crowd. He says lately he feels lost in the shuffle. He is sick of being considered just a utility man, and he feels he can once again be the WCW World Heavyweight Champion, and he will prove it by destroying everyone in his path until he gets a shot at the title (B+)

Juventud Guerrera defeated La Parka in 9:44 by pinfall with a 450 Splash (D-)

Bill Goldberg defeated Kidman in 5:36 by pinfall with The Spear (D+)

A video airs promoting Bret Hart making his WCW in-ring debut this Monday on Nitro! (B+)

Dean Malenko defeated Mortis in 11:34 by submission with a Texas Cloverleaf (D+)

Ric Flair defeated Scott Norton in 9:33 by pinfall (C+) After the match Buff Bagwell and a masked man run into the ring and begin beating Flair. Together they hold Flair down so Kevin Nash can saunter to the ring and spray nWo on his back (B-)

Ric Flair defeated Scott Norton in 9:33 by pinfall (C-)

Bobby Heenan hypes our Main Event, Raven vs DDP (B-) Diamond Dallas Page defeated Raven in 16:35 by pinfall with a Diamond Cutter (B) DDP celebrates with the fans after the match (B+)

Saturday Night comes to a close with Rowdy Roddy Piper coming out to the ring. He mentions that he has been named the head honcho of WCW Saturday Night, and he has been given an announcement he has to make. This Monday on Nitro, Bret Hart will make his WCW debut as he teams with Ric Flair to take on the Outsiders! (B+)

Show Rating: B-

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by Crim

DeTox - can you give me an idea of what program you're using for this dynasty?

TEW 08 and the mod I am using is Montreal Aftermath 2.0 from bobinc.net

[DeToxRox]

WCW Press Release
This coming Nitro to feature two PPV caliber matches!

WCW is proud to announce the debut of Bret "The Hitman" Hart this Monday on Nitro as he teams with the "Nature Boy" Ric Flair to take on the Outsiders, Scott Hall and Kevin Nash. This matched was announced Saturday on WCW Saturday Night by new Saturday Night commissioner Roddy Piper.

Now WCW is proud to announce a second PPV caliber match for Nitro, as Hollywood Hogan has went out of his way to challenge Lex Luger to a WCW World Title Match as a tune up for his match with Sting at Starrcade! Hogan says he knows Luger is Stings best friend and he wants to teach Sting a lesson by injuring his best friend!

So join us Monday on TNT for what promises to be an exciting episode of Nitro!

[DeToxRox]

WCW Monday Nitro
Monday, Week 3, December 1997
Dunkin Donuts Center
15000 People -- Sellout

Nitro opens up with a shot of a steel cage suspended above the ring. Bobby Heenan says he has no idea why it's there but something smells fishy. He suspects the nWo has something to do with it (B-)

The Outsiders hit the ring. They promise that tonight they'll ruin Starrcade for all of those idiot WCW fans out there by taking out Ric Flair and Bret Hart, leaving Sting as the only victim left (B)

Randy Savage defeated Steven Regal in 10:59 by pinfall (C)

A pre-taped interview airs with DDP promising that 1998 will be the Year of the Diamond Cutter. Bang! (B)

Chris Jericho defeated Chris Benoit in 13:20 by submission with a Lion Tamer after blatantly cheating (C)

Curt Hennig defeated Eddy Guerrero in 6:38 by pinfall with a Hennig Plex. Curt Hennig makes defence number 2 of his WCW United States Heavyweight title (C-)

Hulk Hogan is backstage getting ready for his WCW World Title match with Lex Luger. He says he hopes Sting is somewhere he can get a good look at the devestation he is about to inflict on Luger (A)

We then cut to another locker room where Bret Hart and Ric Flair bump into one another. The animosity is there but they vow to watch one anothers back and make sure they take another chink out of the nWo's armor tonight! (A)

The Outsiders defeated Bret Hart and Ric Flair in 20:56 when Kevin Nash defeated Ric Flair after hitting him with brass knuckles (B)

Hollywood Hulk Hogan defeated Lex Luger in 18:31 by pinfall with a Big Leg Drop. Hollywood Hulk Hogan makes defence number 1 of his WCW World Heavyweight title (B) With Luger down the cage starts to lower. The rest of the nWo hits the ring before it finally is in place. From there they begin pounding on Luger, turning his face into a crimson mask. The fans chant for Sting, but he is unable to help. Nitro ends with Hogan spray painting nWo on Lugers back (B)

Show Rating: B

[DeToxRox]

One thing I keep forgetting is to add Monday Night ratings .. I'll do that now along with results from Raw

[DeToxRox]

WWF Monday Night Raw
Monday, Week 3, December 1997
Wachovia Center (Tri State)
15000 People -- Sellout

Kurrgan d. Barry Horowitz (E)
ANGLE: Backstage segment with HBK, Austin and Vince McMahon (B+)
Miguel Perez Jr. d. Puke (E)
ANGLE: Backstage segment with Undertaker and HHH (B)
Phinias I. Godwinn d. Bob Holly (D)
ANGLE: Brawl involving Owen Hart and the Rock (B)
Justin Bradshaw d. 8-Ball (D)
Ahmed Johnson d. The Rock (B-)
HBK d. Road Dogg (C+)

Show Rating: C+

[DeToxRox]

Monday Night Ratings for Week 3, December 1997

Nitro - 6.05
Raw - 3.65

[DeToxRox]

WCW Saturday Night
Thursday, Week 3, December 1997
Hart Rec Center
2000 People -- Sellout

Raven opens Saturday Night in the basement of the Hart Rec Center. He lets everyone know he is filled with pain and torment and it isn't fair so he is going to make sure everyone else has to feel the pain he feels, except the pain he is about to make everyone experience will be the bloody, broken bone kind of pain (C)

Dean Malenko defeated Chavo Guerrero Jr. in 9:53 by submission with a Texas Cloverleaf (D+)

Bill Goldberg defeated The British Bulldog in 6:45 by pinfall with The Spear (D+)

Roddy Piper announces tonights main event, as Harlem Heat will take on Randy Savage and The Giant! (B)

Diamond Dallas Page defeated Mortis in 9:37 by pinfall with a Diamond Cutter (C+)

Ric Flair defeated Buff Bagwell in 13:02 by pinfall (B-) After the match the masked man from Nitro comes out and blindsides Flair before officials hit the ring and he runs through the crowd (B)

Chris Benoit makes a challenge to Chris Jericho for a WCW Television Title match at Starrcade (D)

Rey Mysterio Jr. defeated Rick Martel in 12:06 by pinfall with a Springboard Hurracanrana (C)

Randy Savage and The Giant defeated Harlem Heat in 17:25 when The Giant defeated Stevie Ray by pinfall with a Choke Slam (C+)

Roddy Piper comes out to announce on Ntiro that Kevin Nash will go one on one with Diamond Dallas Page (A)

Show Rating: C

[DeToxRox]

Wrestling News

WCW has signed two ECW wrestlers in Sabu and Jerry Lynn. Both men are scheduled for debut after Starrcade. WCW also came to terms with referee Mark Curtis who will return to the company after an abscence.

WWF having risen to Global popularity, has signed several talents, including Sid Vicious, Bam Bam Bigelow, Steve McMichael and Bryan Clarke.

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Wrestling News

WWF having risen to Global popularity, has signed several talents, including Sid Vicious, Bam Bam Bigelow, Steve McMichael and Bryan Clarke.

The first and last time those 3 words will be used in the same sentence ever.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by General Mike

The first and last time those 3 words will be used in the same sentence ever.

Heh. That is using the word talent pretty loosely.

[DeToxRox]

WCW Monday Nitro
Monday, Week 4, December 1997
Bob Devaney Center
15000 People -- Sellout

Nitro opens up with WCW Heavyweight Champion Hulk Hogan in the ring. Hogan says that Bisch can't be here tonight, and thankfully they've worked out their differences and he has allowed Hogan to make a couple of matches today. So he has decided to let Sting shake off some ring rust tonight vs Buff Bagwell, and Bret Hart will go one on one with Scott Norton. Hogan says the people can thank him for giving them what he wants (A)

Dean Malenko defeated Kidman in 11:56 by submission with a Texas Cloverleaf (D)

Rey Mysterio Jr. defeated La Parka and Mortis in 13:51 when Rey Mysterio Jr. defeated La Parka by pinfall with a Springboard Hurracanrana (C)

Chris Jericho is backstage sporting his usual smug look. He says Benoit has some nerve challenging him last week to a rematch after he cleanly beat Benoit, and normally Jericho would refuse, but since Benoit has something he wants in the Television title, he'll accept a title match at Starrcade (B-)

Ric Flair defeated nWo's masked man in 11:34 by pinfall (C) After the match Flair begins to unmask the man when Kevin Nash comes out. Nash says Flair better stop right there. Flair says give me the match Nash, or he will. Nash, obviously irate swears "Damnit this wasn't supposed to work like this!" He then says fine he has his match but if he unmasks him it doesn't happen. Flair smiles then lays heavy boots to his head and kicks him out of the ring (B)

Eric Bischoff arrives at the building (B+)

Bret Hart defeated Scott Norton in 6:51 by submission with a Sharpshooter (B-) After the match Hart promises it'll be worse for Scott Hall at Starrcade (A)

Sting defeated Buff Bagwell in 7:48 by submission with a Scorpion Deathlock (B)

Eric Bischoff storms out to the ring. He begins yelling "Hogan your are a lying piece of crap. I know the crap you've been pulling and we never made up. You never had power tonight, but I sure do, and that is why this Saturday you'll be taking on Booker T for your World Title. You try to screw me again, and it'll be even worse! (A)

A pre-taped interview airs with The Giant and Randy Savage explaining that on Sunday they'll become the WCW Tag Team Champions, and there is nothing the Steiners can do about it (B+)

Kevin Nash defeated Diamond Dallas Page in 11:56 by pinfall while using the ropes for leverage (A) The match ends and Ric Flair runs to the ring starting an all out brawl with Nash as Nitro ends (B)

Show Rating: B

[DeToxRox]

WWF Monday Night Raw
Monday, Week 4, December 1997
HSBC Arena
15000 People -- Sellout

Brian Christopher d. Recon (E+)
The Godwinns d. The New Blackjacks (D-)
Los Boricuas II d. Horowitz and Scott (E+)
ANGLE: Backstage segment with Vince McMahon, HBK and Steve Austin (B+)
Kama Mustafa d. Super Loco (D+)
Ahmed Johnson d. Jeff Jarrett (C)
HBK d. Owen Hart and Mankind to retain the WWF Heavyweight Title (A)

Show Rating: B+

[DeToxRox]

Monday Night Ratings
WCW Nitro: 6.02
WWF Raw: 3.80

[DeToxRox]

WCW Saturday Night
Thursday, Week 4, December 1997
Joplin Memorial Hall (Midwest)
2000 People -- Sellout

DDP comes to the ring with a smug look on his face. He says that he got screwed by Nash on Monday, and then finds out because of a match several weeks ago, Raven is all pissed off and got himself a rematch at Starrcade. DDP promises that Raven will regret that choice (C+)

A video plays showing the past two Benoit vs Jericho matches to hype their 3rd installment at Starrcade (D)

Steven Regal defeated Dave Taylor in 9:33 by submission with a Regal Stretch (D+)

Dean Malenko defeated Ultimo Dragon in 11:57 by submission with a Texas Cloverleaf (C-)

The Giant and Randy Savage defeated Meng and Mortis in 9:36 when Randy Savage defeated Meng by pinfall (C+)

A video airs hyping Scott Hall (B+)

Curt Hennig defeated Buff Bagwell in 8:50 by pinfall with a Hennig Plex (C+)

Bill Goldberg defeated Juventud Guerrera in 8:17 by pinfall with The Spear (C)

Gene Okerlund interviews Rey Mysterio Jr backstage. Rey says Sunday at Starrcade he is taking on Eddy Guerrero for the Cruiserweight title and it's a title that he wants to win so he can show every week why he is the best high flyer in the world (D)

Eddy Guerrero defeated El Dandy in 13:59 by pinfall with a Frog Splash (C-)

Booker T is backstage promising that tonight he will win the World Title tonight because you only get so many chances like this, and Booker isn't going to let it slip through his fingers! (B-)

Hollywood Hulk Hogan defeated Booker T in 10:14 by pinfall with a Big Leg Drop. Hollywood Hulk Hogan makes defence number 2 of his WCW World Heavyweight title (B)

Show Rating: C+

A throwaway show to be sure.

[DeToxRox]

ECW held their Holiday Hell PPV on Saturday, headlined by Shane Douglas retaining his ECW World Heavyweight Title over Rob Van Dam (B-) Also The Sandman beat Bam Bam Bigelow (C) and Doug Furnas and Phil LaFon won the ECW World Tag Team Titles from the FBI (D+)

The show was earned a C+ rating with a .12 buy.

[DeToxRox]

WCW Starrcade
Sunday, Week 4, December 1997
Georgia Dome
75,000 People -- SELLOUT

Rey Mysterio Jr. defeated Eddy Guerrero in 15:53 by pinfall with a Springboard Hurracanrana. Rey Mysterio Jr. wins the WCW Cruiserweight title (C+)

Diamond Dallas Page drew with Raven in 14:50 following a double disqualification (B+)

Tony Schivanoe and Bobby Heenan discuss our next match which was booked just today after Booker T's almost win vs Hogan. He is rewarded with a US Title shot vs Curt Hennig tonight (C+)

Curt Hennig defeated Booker T in 17:24 by pinfall with a Hennig Plex. Curt Hennig makes defence number 3 of his WCW United States Heavyweight title (C)

Hulk Hogan arrives at the arena looking very somber (B+)

Chris Jericho is backstage with Mean Gene. Jericho promises that on this grand stage he'll show everyone why he is the best wrestler WCW has to offer! (C+)

Chris Benoit drew with Chris Jericho in 20:00 when the time limit expired (C+)

The Steiner Brothers are backstage preparing for their Tag Team Title defense which is moments away. Scott Steiner says that he is going to throw the Giant around like a rag doll (A)

Randy Savage and The Giant defeated The Steiner Brothers in 11:10 when Randy Savage defeated Rick Steiner by pinfall. Randy Savage and The Giant win the WCW World Tag Team titles (B-) After the match Rick and Scott push one another before DiBiase seperates them (B+)

Kevin Nash says that Ric Flair is a pain in his ass and thankfully he can finally rid himself of him tonight (A)

Ric Flair defeated Kevin Nash in 16:53 by pinfall (A)

Scott Hall is backstage warming up for his grudge match with Bret Hart. He promises Hart that tonight he'll wish he was back in Montreal because he is going to show him this is where the big boys play (A*)

A video airs showing the bad blood of Hart and Hall (A*)

Bret Hart defeated Scott Hall in 26:36 by submission with a Sharpshooter (A)

A video airs showing the long history of Hogan and Sting (A*)

Sting defeated Hollywood Hulk Hogan in 22:14 by pinfall with the Scorpion Death Drop. Stin wins the WCW World Heavyweight Title (A-)

Show Rating: A

[DeToxRox]

Just a note .. that was the best show I've ever booked. Wow. 75,000 people was the most I've had at a show, though running my homebase was the main reason, but all the top matches delievered, especially Hart vs Hall. Just amazing.

[DeToxRox]

WCW Starrcade does monster PPV buy

WCW Starrcade, considered the best PPV of the year, did a monster 22.85 buy. Headlined by Sting vs Hogan, the show was considered a financial and creative success. WCW is humming heading into 1998.

[DeToxRox]

WWF held their In Your House PPV which was headlined by Shawn Michaels retaining his WWF Title vs Steve Austin (A). Also on the show was Ahmed Johnson d. Rock (B-), Triple H d. Goldust (B+) and Owen Hart d. Marc Mero (B-) The show did a 13.85 buy.

[DeToxRox]

December Financials

INCOME

PPV Revenue: $7,084,157
Ticket Sales: $6,028,186
TV Revenue: 183,332
Sponsors: $2,792,491
Merch: $1,470,000
Misc: 3,127

EXPENDITURES

Workers: $1,625,800
Show Costs: $865,800
Marketing: $750,000
Merch: $1,102,500
Production: $3,520,000
Development: $850
Misc: $4,616,981

Performance for December: $5,079,362

Total cash: $55,079,362

[dubb93]

Congrats on the very successful show. I'm wondering if you could have pushed the show up to a an A* if you had run Hogan-Sting before Hart-Hall. Regardless it appears that with this show it is obvious who the major draws for the company are. I would say Sting, Flair, Hart and Hall at this point in time. I sincerely hope you are able to find a way to keep Hogan out of the title picture for some time. IMHO his reign accomplished all there was to accomplish at this time.

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Congrats on the very successful show. I'm wondering if you could have pushed the show up to a an A* if you had run Hogan-Sting before Hart-Hall. Regardless it appears that with this show it is obvious who the major draws for the company are. I would say Sting, Flair, Hart and Hall at this point in time. I sincerely hope you are able to find a way to keep Hogan out of the title picture for some time. IMHO his reign accomplished all there was to accomplish at this time.

Hogan will be done soon. I have a big angle in store for him eventually but nothing title related. Nitro will feature Hogan/Sting II then from there his last title shit will happen and after that I plan on having some fun.

Appreciate the feedback.

[DeToxRox]

WCW Monday Nitro
Monday, Week 1, January 1998
American Airlines Center (Mid South)
15000 People -- Sellout

Nitro opens up with the new WCW World Heavyweight champion Sting addressing a wild crowd. Sting says this was a year in the making, and now that he has the WCW Title, which is the heart of the nWo, he will take the next crucial step of eliminating the WCW of the nWo entirely! (A*)

Sting gets cut off by Scott Hall, who says last night he lost on a fluke to Bret Hart, but thankfully he has his ace in the hole. He plays footage from Novembers World War III 60 Man Battle Royal which he won to earn a World Heavyweight Title shot. He says he wants to cash in his shot this month at the nWo run Souled Out! Hall says Bischoff or whoever is in charge tonight better let him know before the night is out if he gets his match, otherwise the hostile takeover intensifies (A*)

Eddy Guerrero defeated Stevie Richards in 11:46 by pinfall with a Frog Splash (C-)

Eddy Guerrero defeated Stevie Richards in 11:46 by pinfall with a Frog Splash (D+)

Raven is backstage where he lets DDP know he has a message for him. He promises that blood is on his hands, and only DDP knows what he's talking about. He says DDP has until next Monday to accept Raven's challenge for a Street Fight at Souled Out or else his secret will be revealed to the world (B+)

Roddy Piper strolls into the arena to a huge pop from the crowd. He says Bischoff couldn't be here tonight, so he's in charge. He said he's heard Hall's threat, and he has a little compromise. Tonight he says, Hulk Hogan is cashing in his rematch clause vs Sting. After the match he'll announce his compromise to the world (B+)

Randy Savage defeated Scott Steiner in 8:56 by disqualification (B-) After the match Steiner continues his beatdown of Savage until Rick Steiner comes out to pull his brother off Savage. Scott tells Rick to back off and leaves in a huff, as Rick and DiBiase look on in shock (B+)

Chris Jericho is backstage demanding that Chris Benoit give him another match since that time limit finish was just a lucky way out for Benoit. He says until he accepts he'll make Benoits life hell (C+)

Bret Hart comes out and says whatever games Scott Hall is playing need to stop. Hart is still the World's Champ, and the only one who can prove him otherwise is Sting. Hart says he'll be ringside for the Main Event tonight to make sure his point is heard loud and clear about him deserving the title shot at Souled Out (A)

Ric Flair defeated Curt Hennig in 15:45 by pinfall (B+)

We pretaped interview shows Lex Luger at a Doctor's office where he learns he has been medically cleared to return to the ring after the heinous beatdown two weeks ago by Hulk Hogan and the nWo. Luger promises revenge (B-)

Sting defeated Hollywood Hulk Hogan in 15:40 by submission with a Scorpion Deathlock. Sting makes defense #1 of the WCW World Heavyweight title (A) After the match Piper comes out and says that no one will get a title shot at Souled Out and instead it'll be Sting and Bret Hart vs Hogan and Hall. Whoever makes the pinfall is next in line for the World Title shot. If Sting wins, then he gets to decide his own fate. With that the four men begin an all out brawl as Nitro goes off air (A)

Show Rating: B+

[DeToxRox]

Monday Night Ratings

WCW Nitro: 6.64
WWF Raw: 4.03 (headlined by DX vs LOD [b])

[DeToxRox]

WCW Saturday Night
Thursday, Week 1, January 1998
John H. Lewis Gym (Mid South)
2000 People -- Sellout
TV Taping

Chris Benoit opens up Saturday Night backstage with his Television title slung over his shoulder. He says he'd love to give Jericho another match so he can finally shut him up (D-) Out of nowhere Jericho comes out and blasts Benoit with a chair, leaving him a bloodied mess. Jericho spits on Benoit before grabbing the TV Title and staring at it longingly (C)

Fit Finlay defeated Steven Regal in 11:44 by pinfall with a Tombstone Piledriver (C+)

Dean Malenko defeated Jerry Lynn in 7:45 by pinfall with a Super Gutbuster (C-)

Booker T defeated Eddy Guerrero in 17:36 by pinfall with a Harlem Hangover (C) After the match Booker T makes a challenge to Buff Bagwell for Souled Out. Booker T says he's sick of the nWo taking over his air time and Buff is going to be the first to pay (C+)

Raven defeated Mortis in 12:51 by pinfall with a Piledriver (B-) After the match Raven begins beating Mortis with vicious rights while he screams into the mic "ACCEPT MY CHALLENGE DALLAS, ACCEPT IT!" (B)

Rey Mysterio Jr. defeated Super Calo, Chavo Guerrero Jr. and Ultimo Dragon in 13:51 when Rey Mysterio Jr. defeated Chavo Guerrero Jr. by pinfall with a Springboard Hurracanrana. Rey Mysterio Jr. makes defence number 1 of his WCW Cruiserweight title (C)

The Giant defeated Rick Steiner in 10:35 by pinfall with a Choke Slam (B-) After the match Scott Steiner comes out to the ring berating Rick for the loss. Rick just looks at him like he's lost his mind (B+)

Show Rating: C

[dubb93]

I'm interested in seeing how the nWo reacts to Hall attempting to go over Hogan's head and steal a title shot.

As for the tag team match, I really see Sting going over Hogan at this point in time. I just can't see the two faces going head to head or Hall being elevated quite yet, although anything can and will happen in WcW. With that being said Souled Out is really starting to take shape already and that is a good thing.

[DeToxRox]

WCW Monday Nitro
Monday, Week 2, January 1998
Dean Smith Center (Mid Atlantic)
15000 People - Sellout

Nitro opens up with the "Nature Boy" Ric Flair in the ring. He says it is great to be home in North Carolina. He let's the crowd know that the war vs the nWo is coming to an end, and he'll make sure WCW is on the winning side. He says that lately he has been doing some scouting of the WCW roster and he thinks he's coming close to finding a few new guys he can ride together with. The hinting of a new Four Horsemen draws a huge pop from the crowd. Flair says when the time is right, the Horsemen will ride again! (A*)

A video airs hyping the return of Lex Luger (C)

Rey Mysterio Jr. defeated Kidman in 10:57 by pinfall with a Springboard Hurracanrana. Rey Mysterio Jr. makes defence number 2 of his WCW Cruiserweight title (C)

Vicious & Delicious defeated El Dandy and Silver King in 6:31 when Buff Bagwell defeated Silver King by pinfall with a Yellow Jacket Suplex (D)

Eric Bischoff announces that last week his rental car magically had four flat tires and that something is going on, and he suspects the nWo has something to do with it. So tonight Hall and Nash are going to take on Savage and the Giant in a non title match, just so he can watch those two smug a-holes get what they have coming to them (B+)

Diamond Dallas Page defeated Stevie Ray in 11:44 by pinfall with a Diamond Cutter (C) After the match DDP gets on the mic and says Raven does't wanna go there with the secret he holds, and he can have his match with the stipulation being a DDP wins means Raven must keep his mouth shut or he's done in WCW, and if Raven wins, he can tell the world. DDP garauntees the secret will stay buried (B-)

Chris Jericho defeated Konnan in 11:59 by submission with a Lion Tamer (C+) Jericho celebrates after the match as if he just won the World Title (C+)

Eddy Guerrero defeated Ultimo Dragon in 8:46 by pinfall with a Frog Splash (C-)

Bret Hart defeated Steven Regal in 8:34 by submission with a Sharpshooter (B-)

Backstage Hulk Hogan is looking for Scott Hall. He asks Hall what was he doing last week sliding his way into the World Title picture. Hall assures Hulk he has a plan, but he has to go out for his match so he can't really tell him it yet. He says wait till after the show. Hogan looks at him skeptically but says okay brother. As Hall leaves Hogan knocks over a garbage can, obviously mad at being shut out of the plan (A)

The Outsiders defeated Randy Savage and The Giant in 12:51 when Scott Hall defeated The Giant by pinfall, illegally using the ropes for leverage (B-)

Show Rating: B-

[DeToxRox]

Monday Night Ratings

Nitro: 6.59
Raw: 4.01 (Headlined by Jarrett vs Shamrock [b])

[DeToxRox]

WCW Saturday Night
Thursday, Week 2, January 1998
Burr Gym (Mid Atlantic)
2000 People -- Sellout
TV Taping

Juventud Guerrera defeated Chavo Guerrero Jr. in 9:33 by pinfall with a 450 Splash (C-)

Bill Goldberg defeated Konnan in 9:51 by pinfall with The Spear (C+)

Another video airs hyping Lex Lugers return to the ring (C-)

Randy Savage comes out and says he wants to know Scott Steiner's deal. He says Steiner has been acting like a chump lately and if he doesn't cut it out Savage plans on cutting it out for him (B+)

Raven defeated Meng in 9:04 by pinfall with a Piledriver (C-)

Chris Jericho defeated Stevie Ray in 12:54 by submission with a Lion Tamer (C+) Afterwards Jericho gets o the mic to continue his verbal assault on Chris Benoit from over the last month (B-)

Dean Malenko defeated Fit Finlay in 7:36 by submission with a Texas Cloverleaf (C-)

The Steiners come out to the ring upset at what Savage says. Scott says he's been upset at how they've been treated by WCW lately, and that he and Rick have aired out their problems like all brothers do. Rick takes the mic and says they want their rematch at Souled Out! (B)

The Giant defeated the British Bulldog in 11:28 by pinfall with a Choke Slam (C) Afterwards the Giant says he speaks for Savage when he says the Steiners have their rematch! (B+)

Chris Benoit defeated Mortis in 14:40 by pinfall with a Dragon Suplex. Chris Benoit makes defence number 4 of his WCW World Television title (C-)

Show Rating: C

[DeToxRox]

WCW Monday Nitro
Monday, Week 3, January 1998
Assembly Hall (Great Lakes)
15000 People -- Sellout

Diamond Dallas Page defeated Jim Neidhart in 11:43 by pinfall with a Diamond Cutter (C+) After the match Raven comes out for a sneak attack on DDP but he sees him at the last minute and throws him out of the ring. The two men stare one another down but no further contact occurs (C+)

Eric Bischoff says tonight he is going to give Scott Hall and Hulk Hogan a tune up tonight as they take on The Harlem Heat (B-)

Kevin Nash defeated The British Bulldog in 11:38 by pinfall with a Jacknife Power Bomb (C+) After the match Kevin Nash makes an open challenge for Souled Out (B+)

Chris Jericho comes to the ring to tell everyone they need to take him seriously. He says he will prove how serious he needs to be taken because he is demanding Ric Flair come out to the ring right now to get his ass beat! (C+)

Ric Flair defeated Chris Jericho in 14:47 by disqualification (B-) After the match Jericho snaps and begins putting the boots to Flair. Out of the back comes Chris Benoit who sends Jericho fleeing. Flair gives a nod to Benoit as he gets back to his feet. As Benoit leaves the ring Flair stares at him with a mischivous smile hitting his lips (B)

Dean Malenko defeated Juventud Guerrera in 11:39 by submission with a Texas Cloverleaf (C)

Bill Goldberg defeated Louie Spicolli in 7:31 by pinfall with The Spear (D)

Scott Hall and Hollywood Hulk Hogan defeated Harlem Heat in 14:50 when Scott Hall defeated Booker T by pinfall with a Razor's Edge (B-)

After the match the lights go out and Sting appears wth the WCW World Title in the rafters. He points his trusty bat at Hall and Hogan. The lights go out again and Sting is nowhere to be seen. As Hall and Hogan worriedly look for Sting they accidently bump into one another. The two man almost come to blows but stop short. They share a tense staredown as Nitro goes off the air (A)

Show Rating: B-

[DeToxRox]

Monday Night Ratings

Nitro: 6.28
Raw: 4.01 (headlined by LOD vs Kane/Undertaker [b])

[DeToxRox]

WCW Saturday Night
Thursday, Week 3, January 1998
David S. Palmer Arena (Great Lakes)
2000 People -- Sellout
TV Taping

Buff Bagwell defeated Stevie Ray in 7:32 by pinfall with a Yellow Jacket Suplex (C-) After the match Bagwell lays into Stevie Ray only for Booker T to make the save. Booker says Bagwell is done for at Souled Out (C-)

Randy Savage and The Giant says that the Steiners better get on the same page because at Souled Out those two are going to need their A game and a kitchen sink or two to take the tag titles back to Detroit (B)

Bill Goldberg defeated Scott Norton in 6:46 by pinfall with The Spear (D)

Jim Neidhart and The British Bulldog defeated The Blue Bloods in 11:22 when The British Bulldog defeated Steven Regal by pinfall with a Running Powerslam (C)

Roddy Piper announces at Souled Out that the US Title will be on the line as Ric Flair will take on Curt Hennig! (B)

Backstage DDP is looking for Raven. He says he wants to find him to teach him a lesson before Souled Out, but Raven is nowhere to be found (C+)

Chris Benoit defeated Sabu in 6:50 by pinfall with a Dragon Suplex. Chris Benoit makes defence number 5 of his WCW World Television title (C-)

Scott Steiner defeated Konnan in 13:35 by pinfall with a Frankensteiner (C+)

A video airs hyping the Souled Out Main Event of Sting & Bret Hart vs Hollywood Hogan & Scott Hall (A)

Roddy Piper makes his return to the ring. He says that video intrigued him, and it's only fair Sting and Hart get a shot to co-exist together so on Nitro the main event will be Sting & Hart vs the Steiners! (A*)

Raven defeated Rick Steiner in 13:45 by pinfall with a Piledriver (B+) After the match Scott Steiner comes down and gets in Rick's face. He says Rick is better then that and he better get his head out of his ass (B+)

The Giant defeated Mortis in 9:49 by pinfall with a Choke Slam (C+)

Show Rating: B-

[DeToxRox]

Wrestling Observer Breaking News
End of an era .. WCW cancels Saturday Night

With no fanfare and just an okay final match, WCW Saturday Night now ceases to exist. Ted Turner announced today that he has allowed WCW to end Saturday Night in an effort for the show to find a more lucrative deal for a second show. While many would've wished for the show to get a final hurrah, cable companies are looking for shows soon and WCW needs to focus on that as well as the upcoming PPV Souled Out.

For the short term there shall only be two hours of TV a week for WCW but this should help WCW in the long term as they're becoming an attractive option for advertisers, which makes them an attractice option for Cable companies.

[DeToxRox]

WCW Monday Nitro
Monday, Week 4, January 1998
Nassau Coliseum (Tri City)
15000 People -- Sellout

Bret Hart and Sting hit the ring together. They come off as a united front but immediatley Hart says after they dispatch of the Steiners tonight and then Sunday when Hart takes out Hall and Hogan, he is going to show Sting why he's the best there is, the best where was and --

Sting cuts him off and says that these days too many people talk. He says his actions will speak louder then his words (A*)

Randy Savage defeated Konnan in 9:49 by pinfall (C-) After the match Savage calls out Scott Steiner specifically. He refers to him as a loose cannon who has to be dealt with (B)

Eddy Guerrero defeated Dean Malenko in 13:19 by pinfall with a Frog Splash (C)

Bill Goldberg defeated Disco Inferno in 7:42 by pinfall with The Spear (C-)

Hulk Hogan comes out to the ring and says Sunday is his shot at redemption, but it looks like he's facing three men, and not two. He says he's still waiting for Hall to explain his plan for Sunday, and that he doubts he ever hears it. Hogan tells Hall to have no fear, he has his own plan for Sunday and will make sure after he pins Hart or Sting Sunday and gets his World Title shot, that Hall can have the first crack at him (A)

Lex Luger comes out and says it's good to be back. He says he saw Kevin Nash laid down an open challenge and Luger is here to accept it. He knows Nash was involved in the beatdown Luger suffered a month ago, and he plans on returning the favor (C+)

Rey Mysterio Jr. defeated La Parka in 11:47 by pinfall with a Springboard Hurracanrana (C+)

Ric Flair comes out and says he cannot wait to get his hands on the WCW United States title as it'll be a fitting jewel to build the new Horsemen around (B)

Sting and Bret Hart defeated The Steiner Brothers in 19:36 when Bret Hart defeated Rick Steiner by submission with a Sharpshooter (B) Nitro goes off the air with Scott Steiner in his brothers face, and Sting and Hart staring one another down (A)

Show Rating: B-

[DeToxRox]

Monday Night Ratings

Nitro: 5.69
Raw: 4.09 (Headlined by Ahmed Johnson vs. Undertaker [C+])

[DeToxRox]

I f'd up and cancelled one of my two enormous PPV carriers on accident. I wanted to cancel with my Japanese PPV company but hit the wrong one. WWF only has 1 enormous carrier so it isn't huge problem but it does still blow and I dunno how it'll effect my PPV #s.