Werewolf IX: Village of the Damned

[Vince]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

here you go enjoy

since time is up on the deadline for the wolves.

hoops I bought the coat of arms and passed it to you tonight

[hoopsguy]

SnDvls, since you are around tonight - lets talk Superman.

What role do you think he is playing? Do you think he, as a wolf, would cast the deciding vote against the other remaining wolf at the time, Raiders Army? If he was a wolf he would surely know he had the coat and that a lynching was likely to ensue during the next period.

Do you think he was a sorceror who had been converted? At that point he would not know who was the wolf, but the evidence that was out there against Raiders was pretty compelling. If he was the sorceror, would endangering a strong wolf suspect be a good play? If he was confused about the two of them, why not sit it out and avoid a lynching that night? This would have extended Raiders lifetime one more day.

Or do you think he was converted recently? This idea makes more sense to me than the first two, assuming that we have three enemies right now.

[hoopsguy]

Coffee, do you see my point on the seer item? If it takes three days (minimum) to get it and activate it, I'm concerned that the game is over at that point.

All in all, good responses.

[SnDvls]

you could go two ways with this

1) he knows everyone pretty much knew RA had the coat and was a wolf. so to keep himself low he votes him out as a wolf

OR

2) he was converted before the 2nd vote (I believe this one more as I look at it). He had to vote the same way again or someone would have called him on it.

I think there are 2 wolves honestly, just my gut

[SnDvls]

(ooc) gotta run I'll catch up on this tomorrow morning....assuming I'm around (/ooc)

[Poli]

I'd like to see a response from Mr. Wednesday. Right now I assume he's at least tainted since he keeps trying to paint me.

My vote is staying with him.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

King, why pass such a strong item on the first night?

Now that it is past the eating deadline, I can tell you one thing. If I am still alive after Peregrine makes his post. The villagers will be in VERY good shape for tomorrow's vote.

[Poli]

Why is that??

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Why is that??

Patience my friend...

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

I passed it to Eagles on the first night as I opened the game with it. I played the previous mafia WW game with Eagles and I know he was a good WW player and thought he would benefit from such a strong item.

I'm not sure why you would lie about that, but I've never had the dagger.

[Poli]

Ugh!!! What do you mean patience? What if you die? Spill it!

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I'm not sure why you would lie about that, but I've never had the dagger.

Uh oh. The plot thickens. I've always thought henry passed it to me, honestly.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I'm not sure why you would lie about that, but I've never had the dagger.

The only way that you did not get it is if someone had the guise and it was intercepted. Other than that, you are flat out lying.

[Poli]

Ooh. This is getting good. Don't know who passed it to me, but I got the dagger right here.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I'd like to see a response from Mr. Wednesday. Right now I assume he's at least tainted since he keeps trying to paint me.

My vote is staying with him.

I don't think you're a wolf, but I do think you are an excellent candidate to have turned into a sorceror. I'm still trying to figure out who the remaining wolf is. Schmidty acted the part, but unfortunately it was innocent mistakes, and his limited time didn't give him an opportunity to defend himself. Nobody else has obviously acted the part.

My item history, prior to my reveal of the pendant bit:
* Started with the tablet.
* Passed it to Lathum with a joking "We're coming for you!" or some such on it. Little did I realize how prophetic that was... yet, ironically, I didn't vote for him.
* Accumulated gold for three nights, bought a pendant of seeing, and used it on SnDvls. He appeared to be a villager.

I'll leave further discussion until after tonight.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

The only way that you did not get it is if someone had the guise and it was intercepted. Other than that, you are flat out lying.

I'm not lying. I've never received the dagger. Perhaps someone did intercept it, but I never received it.

[Poli]

Hattrick supporter on the line. I'm clean. Take the bet.

[Coffee Warlord]

I do and I don't, as far as the amulet buying goes.

There's only a few items even remotely useful at this stage in the game, as I see it. Frankly, I think the option of silver passing is a terrible idea, and I'll explain my logic here.

Say we somehow manage to get everyone to trust Ardent (if he does indeed have the dagger). No small task there. He must then pass said dagger that turn to buy something, which occurs BEFORE eating. He is now vulnerable to wolf attack, and now with a badass expensive item. Since you cannot activate something the same turn you buy it, there's a window there where the wolves can get the person with all that cash.

Now, since accumulating a large amount of money is gonna be hard, we're stuck with cheaper items. Of those, I think a one shot seer item is still the most useful. Someone will either get cleared, or get outed. Yes, it might be too late, but what other items that one person can reasonably acquire at this point are out there?

[Mr. Wednesday]

Er, correction, I accumulated gold for two nights (night 1 and night 2), since I started with one and I did not get an item in return after passing the tablet.

If the night action deadline has passed, I'm willing to go into full detail on what I've done since as well.

[Poli]

Oh, and I'm taking any of the hattrickers on the bet as well. If you got questions, I got answers. I ain't no wolf. I ain't no sorcerer, at least before tonight's actions.

Anyone wanting in on this bet just let me know.

[kingfc22]

You see. I passed it to you on night 1.
+1 silver
nobody gave me an item on night 2
+1 silver (2)
nobody gave me an item on night 3
+1 silver (3)
nobody gave me an item on night 4
+1 silver (4)
nobody gave me an item on night 5
+1 silver (5)

I then bought the Ledger

didn't use it on night 6 because of the huge bandwagon on Raiders, hence my attempt to swing votes towards Vince

I used it tonight to see who voted for Schmidty.

If there are more than 1 bad guys in the group, Eagles is my number 1 target. Mainly for his vote for RealDeal on day 5 when he could have switched to Raiders.

Hope this adds a little more anticipation.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I do and I don't, as far as the amulet buying goes.

There's only a few items even remotely useful at this stage in the game, as I see it. Frankly, I think the option of silver passing is a terrible idea, and I'll explain my logic here.

Say we somehow manage to get everyone to trust Ardent (if he does indeed have the dagger). No small task there. He must then pass said dagger that turn to buy something, which occurs BEFORE eating. He is now vulnerable to wolf attack, and now with a badass expensive item. Since you cannot activate something the same turn you buy it, there's a window there where the wolves can get the person with all that cash.

Now, since accumulating a large amount of money is gonna be hard, we're stuck with cheaper items. Of those, I think a one shot seer item is still the most useful. Someone will either get cleared, or get outed. Yes, it might be too late, but what other items that one person can reasonably acquire at this point are out there?

I imagine I could buy it and pass it, keeping the dagger.

[kingfc22]

dola

This is why I was laying so low. To avoid being lynched and to avoid being killed.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Has the night action submission deadline passed?

[Poli]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

You see. I passed it to you on night 1.
+1 silver
nobody gave me an item on night 2
+1 silver (2)
nobody gave me an item on night 3
+1 silver (3)
nobody gave me an item on night 4
+1 silver (4)
nobody gave me an item on night 5
+1 silver (5)

I then bought the Ledger

didn't use it on night 6 because of the huge bandwagon on Raiders, hence my attempt to swing votes towards Vince

I used it tonight to see who voted for Schmidty.

If there are more than 1 bad guys in the group, Eagles is my number 1 target. Mainly for his vote for RealDeal on day 5 when he could have switched to Raiders.

Hope this adds a little more anticipation.

Wow. Anticipation is kiiiiiilllllllllllling me now.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

Has the night action submission deadline passed?

All I see is Peregrine PMing.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I imagine I could buy it and pass it, keeping the dagger.

I'm not sure that can be done in the same turn. Pere? Anyone?

[Mr. Wednesday]

Then I better act fast... I accumulated two more silver, plus got the one from RA's lynching, bought a Pendant, and am viewing EF27 tonight.

[Poli]

What I mean is, buy it tomorrow. Assuming I don't use the dagger, I now have two items. The next night I pass it.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, thus is my tale of items.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

What I mean is, buy it tomorrow. Assuming I don't use the dagger, I now have two items. The next night I pass it.

That's my point. If you have an item in your inventory, pre-passing, you can't buy another one. It has to be passed.

I think.

[Poli]

You're hurting my head.

[hoopsguy]

I know that Peregrine has been processing them pretty early in the morning (6AM-ish), but not all that close to the midnight hour. As far as the deadline, probably worth checking.

King, that is really great news on the Ledger. Very valuable item to possess at this point. I'm delighted.

The Guise is out there - I had it in my possession at one point in the game but moved it on to parts unknown. Not saying that played a role in the Dagger-passing story, but confirming its existence in the game.

[Coffee Warlord]

I'm going to bed before my head explodes.

[Poli]

I don't see it in the rules...but perhaps I should open my eyes. It's past my bed time....hurry up Peregrine.

[Mr. Wednesday]

A scenario that I considered plausible during the day today is that ardent and CW had both been converted to sorcerors... I think the voting record would favor ardent first and CW second. I don't know if that would make any sense from the wolf poing of view, though. And, well, if that's the case, they sure are doing a great job of playing it tonight.

[Poli]

I think I'll go to bed too...with friggin nightmares of werewolves.

[Poli]

Take the bet, Mr. Wednesday. Take the bet.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Peregrine did say night actions by midnight. Of course, we're stretching things by discussing after midnight when it's possible that one of us, theoretically, is already dead.

[Poli]

Regardless, they ain't killing me. Not with my handy dagger.

[Mr. Wednesday]

You never know what they might do with me. I've been a bit scattershot to help my villager side so far (as, unfortunately, was also the case in X-Com). I was a little tight-lipped because I didn't want to invite killing (for cause or for silver) prior to using my new pendant.

[hoopsguy]

Pass is Phase 3, Purchase is Phase 6 (actiavate). So you should be able to buy while holding one item.

When you pass, you can only have one item in your possession at the conclusion of that round. But you can receive items via pass so you have multiple items at the point where you are activating an item from the previous day.

Peregrine, would love a confirmation on this but I'm pretty sure this is correct after re-reading post #1.

Cutoff for instructions is midnight EDT, also from post #1.

[kingfc22]

hmmmm

Interesting that Eagles was still around after my revelation and he didn't post a thing.

[Poli]

Well, hopefully enough people still trust me. Off to bed. Good night fellas.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

hmmmm

Interesting that Eagles was still around after my revelation and he didn't post a thing.

Actually, I was playing Madden and just turned it off. I'm catching up with everything now.

[hoopsguy]

Well, if Eagles shows up as wolf then this seems pretty easy. And we hope that we are fighting two wolves instead of wolf + 2 sorcerors - think that is an easier game for us at that point, plus it keeps seer devices in play.

I'm working on the idea that we can post frankly right up until we see Peregrine's post that we are dead.

[Eaglesfan27]

Now, I'm caught up. I'll wait to see the results of the Ledger before commenting on that. However, I know I'm a villager.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Sure, that's my viewpoint, I just think we're stretching things a little by taking advantage of the gap between the action deadline and the posting of results to speak frankly. Less so now, but a few days ago we were particularly interested in the money supply.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Well, if Eagles shows up as wolf then this seems pretty easy. And we hope that we are fighting two wolves instead of wolf + 2 sorcerors - think that is an easier game for us at that point, plus it keeps seer devices in play.

I'm working on the idea that we can post frankly right up until we see Peregrine's post that we are dead.

Not necessarily. Mr. W could be the wolf and pretend to view me and claim I'm a wolf. Do you know that he really purchased a pendant?

[hoopsguy]

Nope, don't know it for sure Eagles. You are both on Schmidty for votes today - should be interesting to see the ledger results, if King is alive tomorrow to provide them.