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Old 08-16-2005, 11:45 PM   #1551
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Well, it looks as if Peregrine won't be on again tonight so I'm going to log off for a bit.
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Old 08-16-2005, 11:47 PM   #1552
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Not necessarily. Mr. W could be the wolf and pretend to view me and claim I'm a wolf. Do you know that he really purchased a pendant?
Hmm... foreshadowing the result, perhaps? A little pre-defense?
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Old 08-16-2005, 11:54 PM   #1553
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Hmm... foreshadowing the result, perhaps? A little pre-defense?


I'm not sure that my work will have the internet working tomorrow (since it wasn't working the other day) and I won't be home from work til about 5:00 PM Central. I'm just throwing out that concern in case you are setting me up.
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Old 08-16-2005, 11:56 PM   #1554
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Eagles, you holding a mask right about now? Someone setting you up, given all the heat that has been generated since the Raiders vote last Friday?

Just trying to help with the pre-defense efforts ...
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:11 AM   #1555
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This is getting crazy. Go villagers!
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:15 AM   #1556
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Eagles, if you are a villager and I survive the night, you should have nothing to fear.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:18 AM   #1557
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Dola, it should also be noted, I actually expressed suspicion of CW, ardent, and MrBug toward the end of the voting. Under the circumstances, I would not expect that the mask would have been passed to you to set you up, if another one has been purchased (and with two books, I'm not convinced there's enough silver in the hands of the wolves).
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:37 AM   #1558
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Lets all try to poke some holes in the stories of Wednesday and Kingfc on their items - did anyone pass either of these guys an item in the first five days of the game? Both of them had to accumulate quite a bit of silver along the way to make these purchases.

King/MrW, if you did receive an item via pass at some point it would be helpful to cite the day and what impact it had on your accumulation of silver to make your purchase.

Really looking forward to tomorrow morning to see how this plays out.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:45 AM   #1559
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The only thing I ever received was random receipt of Raiders Army's one silver piece, which allowed me to purchase my second pendant a day early. I started with the tablet and passed it (as was required) in night one.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:53 AM   #1560
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Old 08-17-2005, 01:04 AM   #1561
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King/MrW, if you did receive an item via pass at some point it would be helpful to cite the day and what impact it had on your accumulation of silver to make your purchase.

Hoops, look at post 1521. Night 6 was the first time I ever received an item from a pass.
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Old 08-17-2005, 07:08 AM   #1562
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Another night passes, and another life is claimed. Tonight it is Hoopsguy who is found half-eaten in his room. He was an innocent villager. The ragged remains of the Robe of the Priest are found beside him, it is destroyed.

Day 8 - 8 of you remain.

kingfc22
sundvls
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hoopsguy - eaten Night 7 - villager
Lathum - Lynched Day 2 - villager
blade6119 - Lynched Day 4 - villager
Henry296 - killed Night 4 - villager
BrianD - killed Night 3 - villager
digamma - Lynched Day 3 - werewolf
fouts - Poisoned and died Night 3 - villager
schmidty - Lynched Day 7 - villager
dubb93 - killed Night 2 - villager
vince - killed Night 6 - villager
Qwikshot - Lynched Day 1 - Sorceror
RealDeal - Killed Night 5 - villager
Jeff061 - Killed Night 1 - Sorceror
Raiders Army - Lynched Day 6 - werewolf

Lynch votes in by 8 pm.
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Old 08-17-2005, 07:17 AM   #1563
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Okay, night PMs are out to everyone.
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Old 08-17-2005, 07:33 AM   #1564
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Take it home, villagers. Good game, all.
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:46 AM   #1565
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I think the vote speaks for itself.
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Old 08-17-2005, 09:22 AM   #1566
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Mr. Wednesday lies. He did not view me as a wolf in the pendant. I'm a villager, and I've had the amulet all along.

I stole it from Fouts on the 1st night using the lockpicks of the thief. Henry could have confirmed this as I talked to him about it through his robes the next day.

On the 2nd night, I viewed Fouts and that is why I left a post about if anyone could save him, they should.

On the 3rd night I viewed Ardent Enthusiast, and I saw that he was a villager.

On the 4th night I viewed Superman, and I saw that he was a villager.

On the 5th night I viewed Real Deal and saw that he was a villager (albeit a crazy one) which is why I agreed to switch to Raiders Army.

On the 6th night, I viewed hoopsguy and saw that he was a villager (I thought he might be a brilliant werewolf.)

On the 7th night, I viewed Mr. Wednesday. He is a werewolf. I don't know how he figured out that I'm the seer. I thought I was fairly cautious with my clues which are scattered throughout the thread. In any case, if you end up believing Mr. W's lie that he bought the pendant and viewed me as a werewolf, you will not only kill a villager, but lose the amulet.

Don't make a mistake.

Oh yeah,

I vote Mr. Wednesday.

I'll be passing the amulet to someone that I believe is safe (whom I viewed earlier) so that we don't lose this valuable item if the wolf(ves?) eat me tonight.
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Old 08-17-2005, 09:31 AM   #1567
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I think EF27 is going for the win right now. He knows full well that by accusing me of being the werewolf, if you go along with him, when I'm shown to be a villager, he'll be right on the block.
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Old 08-17-2005, 09:33 AM   #1568
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The amulet play is a nice one, though... he might even have it.
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Old 08-17-2005, 09:39 AM   #1569
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after the conversation I had w/ hoops last night he has to be a wolf
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:44 AM   #1570
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Ok, here is what the Ledger told me.

Out of Eagles, Mr. W, Superman and AE - only ONE is a bad guy.

That means out of CW, SnDvls, and Myself - there is at least one if not two bad guys.

I am a villager, which means if there are TWO bad guys in that second group, we can not miss.

With that being said, we need the more probable kill.
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:47 AM   #1571
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I know EF27 is a wolf -- for me, that is not a probable kill, that is a certain kill. If we have one wolf and two sorcerors, we need the wolf, because then we would get at least one night with no wolf kills. My vote is not changing.

Also -- you left out MrBug.
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:49 AM   #1572
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Also -- you left out MrBug.


Ahhh, crap. Was looking at my list and forgot he didn't vote yesterday.
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:52 AM   #1573
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So right now it is 5-3. If we vote wrong today, the game is likely over unless we somehow prevent the wolves from eating tonight with the use of an item.

Right now we have a 1/4 shot at Eagles, Mr. W, Superman and AE

We have either a 1/3 or a 2/3 shot at CW, SnDvls, and MrBug

I repeat, we NEED a kill.
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:53 AM   #1574
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You've got a 1/2 shot between me and EF27. We can't both be telling the truth.
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:47 AM   #1575
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Why am I included in the wolf list?
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:51 AM   #1576
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You're not. You're included in the list of four people that kingfc22 says contains at least one and possibly two bad guys. I think the exchange between EF27 and myself demonstrates that it is either one wolf or two sorcerors, as either EF27 or myself is a wolf.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:15 PM   #1577
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You bastads...no one sent me any silver. UGGGGGGGGGGGH!
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:16 PM   #1578
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At least Eagles isn't trying to implicate me.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:19 PM   #1579
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Anything I can do to try to convince you to do the right thing, ardent?
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:25 PM   #1580
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That means out of CW, SnDvls, and Myself - there is at least one if not two bad guys.

I am a villager, which means if there are TWO bad guys in that second group, we can not miss.

With that being said, we need the more probable kill.

well if that is the case. then CW is a bad guy as I am a villager too.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:27 PM   #1581
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You'd be hard pressed. Implicating me even in the slightest is not a way to get on my good side...and has me feeling you're dirty. I've even put a year of supporter on the line to back up my claims of innocence, yet I don't hear anything out of you. I didn't hear, "okay, you've got to be clean" or anything.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:28 PM   #1582
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well if that is the case. then CW is a bad guy as I am a villager too.
CW may have gone to the Dark Side. I've thought as much since I didn't see a Hammer or silver out of him today.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:29 PM   #1583
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Of course, I didn't see any silver out of anyone. Either you don't have silver, or you don't trust me.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:31 PM   #1584
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Here's where I'm at right now.

I think Mr. W is the wolf. Now thanks to SnDvls handing the coat of arms to Hoops, which strikes me as an odd move. Why give Hoops this item? He has never been in danger of being lynched and this item is a whole lot more beneficial to the Wolf than it is to the villagers at this stage of the game. And then he gets eaten last night and lo and behold the wolf now has the coat.

SnDvls keeps getting higher and higher on my list now that he claims CW is a bad guy when he was my least likely target out of my 2nd group.

MrBug jumped ahead of CW, when Mr. W promptly responded to my post on #1570. I totally forgot about Bug, but Mr. W was quick to mention him. Why was he so quick to name MrBug probably because he is the other sorcerer that had been converted and Mr. W WOULD know who they are. Hence the hints left by SnDvls left during the day about the "item" he held.

Vote SnDvls

What do you villagers think? I can't send my vote for Mr. W today because if he has the coat we are down to 4-3 tomorrow. I rather go for the 5-2 then 4-2 lead. Are you villagers with me?
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:35 PM   #1585
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So I have Mr. W has the wolf.
SnDvls and MrBug as the sorcerers.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:36 PM   #1586
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If we kill the wolf, coat or not, the game is over, isn't it? Let's make him wear out the coat, and kill him next go around.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:38 PM   #1587
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Heh, Mr. W probably mentioned me fast because we were in the first mafia game on the same side and talked a lot on AIM. Not so much now because of the different makeup from the game.

I dont understand how I'm bad just because Mr. W. corrected your mistake and that makes me a sorcerer?
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:38 PM   #1588
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dola

I decided to pass this item to someone I trust, you can bet it's not Superman or EaglesFan.

This is the post where SnDvls leaks the info to the wolf who knows that SnDvls is a sorcerer and will listen to his hints.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:42 PM   #1589
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This is the post where SnDvls leaks the info to the wolf who knows that SnDvls is a sorcerer and will listen to his hints.
Heh, if you're right that makes you a bad mamma jamma.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:43 PM   #1590
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If we kill the wolf, coat or not, the game is over, isn't it? Let's make him wear out the coat, and kill him next go around.

I just re-read the rules and I could not find an explicit definition of winning conditions. It says the sorcerers win if the wolves win and lose if the villagers win.

Peregrine - Do the villagers win if the last wolf is killed?



I will change my vote to Mr. W if the answer to this question is yes.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:45 PM   #1591
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Heh, Mr. W probably mentioned me fast because we were in the first mafia game on the same side and talked a lot on AIM. Not so much now because of the different makeup from the game.
There's nothing to read into a "fast" mention -- I looked at the list, the numbers didn't add up, so I tried to figure out who was missing.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:49 PM   #1592
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You'd be hard pressed. Implicating me even in the slightest is not a way to get on my good side...and has me feeling you're dirty. I've even put a year of supporter on the line to back up my claims of innocence, yet I don't hear anything out of you. I didn't hear, "okay, you've got to be clean" or anything.
I really had no idea how much weight to give the offer. The fact is, everything was pure guesswork; aside from Schmidty, where I obviously completely screwed up, there's almost nothing to go on, until our action today. I raised you as a possible sorceror because I believed you were clean early in the game, and somebody who was trusted early on is a good candidate for conversion.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:49 PM   #1593
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The post I quoted in 1588 leads me to believe that Eagles is not a wolf because SnDvls was helping you by narrowing your kill to the obvious choice of Hoops, who was the most trusted by the villagers.

Since Eagles says your a wolf on post #1566 then your defense of MrBug only makes me more suspicous.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:54 PM   #1594
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If EF27 is not a wolf, then he's a villager with the mask. That's not completely impossible, but it's highly improbable. I hadn't included him in my pre-Schmidty list of alternate suspects, mainly because he had jumped on RA early. In retrospect, it looks like they had agreed that RA had very little chance of talking us out of the lynch, so it was a good opportunity for EF27 to get some trust. It worked, too -- I probably would have voted for him yesterday if he hadn't been one of the first three on the RA bandwagon.

I'm not defending MrBug. I have no idea what he is; while I've been focusing on getting the wolf, I haven't thought as much about the sorcerors, but MrBug is definitely someone I'd be willing to consider. I just don't want my supposed "quick response" to be interpreted as meaning anything, because it doesn't -- either for or against.
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Old 08-17-2005, 01:22 PM   #1595
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I just re-read the rules and I could not find an explicit definition of winning conditions. It says the sorcerers win if the wolves win and lose if the villagers win.

Peregrine - Do the villagers win if the last wolf is killed?



I will change my vote to Mr. W if the answer to this question is yes.

Yes.
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Old 08-17-2005, 01:27 PM   #1596
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Old 08-17-2005, 01:31 PM   #1597
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Whelp. Answers that one. We go for the wolf.

Now, I think we can safely narrow it down between MrW and Eagles. Frankly, I believe there's more reason to believe EaglesFan than there is MrW. As such....

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Old 08-17-2005, 01:39 PM   #1598
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Eagles has played it well. I just can't believe Mr. Wendsday.

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Old 08-17-2005, 01:41 PM   #1599
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All I ask is that somebody nail EF27 for me, then. Hopefully, it doesn't cost you the game.
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And, aside from the claim about the amulet (which could be true even with EF27 lying about me being the wolf), why do you find him more credible than me?
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