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Old 04-21-2015, 11:53 AM   #301
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I remember he was already gone before I came along, so this was a good 15+ years ago, btw!

Yup, his legacy lives on years and years later lol. Like the cocky and funny line for Hornsmaniac. That one continues to make the rounds.
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Old 04-21-2015, 11:56 AM   #302
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btw, Chief...just noticed we joined in the same month! Oct 2000

Actually, I think it shows that for everyone, as that was when the board was first created. FOFC actually goes even further back, to the "Sideline" days. That was a board under a different server, but essentially the same community. There was drama there (early days of the growing Internet and all), and we mass moved from that board to this one.

So if you look around, you will see a bunch of October 2000 join ups. That's all us old fogies.

I actually joined the Sideline board way back in 1999, when I first discovered the existence of Front Office Football.
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:00 PM   #303
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Actually, I think it shows that for everyone, as that was when the board was first created. FOFC actually goes even further back, to the "Sideline" days. That was a board under a different server, but essentially the same community. There was drama there (early days of the growing Internet and all), and we mass moved from that board to this one.

So if you look around, you will see a bunch of October 2000 join ups. That's all us old fogies.

I actually joined the Sideline board way back in 1999, when I first discovered the existence of Front Office Football.

I'm shocked I never ran into this forum. Then again, 16-17 year old me at the time was heavily invested in online leagues using High Heat Baseball.
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:01 PM   #304
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I didn't pick up a copy of FOF7 until the beginning of this year, but apparently I had signed up on this forum back in Jan 2006. So it only took me 9 years to pull the trigger on that purchase
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:39 PM   #305
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Vote Tally (as of Post #304)

Vaimes (3)-- Shoveler (95), Zinto (163), cheekimonk (293)
timmae (2)-- EagleFan (82), Vaimes (85)
Shoveler (2)-- MartinD (83), britrock83 (113)
The Jackal (2)-- Raven (106), timmae (154)
cheekimonk (2)-- JAG (197), Autumn (264)
Zinto (2)-- Narcizo (108), The Jackal (283)
Grover (1)-- fontisian (210)
fontisian (1)-- MrBug708 (178)
MartinD (1)-- Grover (268)

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Old 04-21-2015, 12:41 PM   #306
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Ok. It doesn't feel any worse than anyone I have a gut feel on. Some folks I have nothing one way or the other. Some folks I feel are on the radar though they haven't tipped village or wolf yet. It's a long D1.

Obviously getting to this late, but it seemed like your premise for voting fontisian was the part of my quote you referenced, which I later said was flawed. However, that realization didn't seem to change your mind. Can you explain?

Who is on your radar and why?
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:50 PM   #307
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There's a good chance JAG is scum, but I'm going to give him a break for toDay and see if he turns out useful.

Thanks, I think. Keep an open mind as I'm on Team Village this game.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:04 PM   #308
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Oh, I've taken that into account. Clearly if you're playing against someone on a weekly basis, you're going to eventually have a decent read on them.

Not necessarily. I've played against Autumn and Narc a number of times and still don't trust myself to read them correctly due to the amount of times they've fooled me.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:06 PM   #309
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For further notice, please anyone who wishes to just UNVOTE and not UNVOTE and VOTE in the same post, please include the player you're unvoting. I almost missed this from unvote from JAG because a simple bolded Unvote doesn't particularly stand out.

Sorry.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:08 PM   #310
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unvote MartinD

He spoke up when I said something to him. That's enough for now. Not enough on him for me to consider him suspicious at this point.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:14 PM   #311
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Go reread the quote in post #280. "You have the ability to act as the blank or stuttering sam"

Given the typical duke usage we've discussed (self-protection), the cultist wouldn't have this available to him, so he'd have to try to interfere with someone else's duking. (I know that's been said earlier; just wanted to add my restatement/assent. )

If the cultist were a hunter, same thing would go, I suppose... use your "ability" to try to interfere with others'. ...Except that hunter orders are processed in real time. So the cultist could basically set up a Blank claim war. Heh.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:15 PM   #312
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Aw, I'm the leading wagon. How sweet.

I think I mentioned this last game, but Tuesdays are busy for me.

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Old 04-21-2015, 01:16 PM   #313
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Hmm. Seems like time to consolidate.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:17 PM   #314
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Aw, I'm the leading wagon. How sweet.

I think I mentioned this last game, but Tuesdays are busy for me.

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Go ahead and get a claim out now?
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:17 PM   #315
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Sorry.

No worries. I said at the start it was okay to unvote that way. It just turned out the practice was a little sketchier than the theory. I don't want to miss unvotes.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:17 PM   #316
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I forgot cheek was voted out D1 last game, so I'll give him a pass today, just don't think it's fair to go that way twice in a row.

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Might be it for me til deadline, if my meeting ends early I'll be around towards the end.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:18 PM   #317
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Pure tally manipulation.

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Old 04-21-2015, 01:18 PM   #318
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Given the typical duke usage we've discussed (self-protection), the cultist wouldn't have this available to him, so he'd have to try to interfere with someone else's duking. (I know that's been said earlier; just wanted to add my restatement/assent. )

If the cultist were a hunter, same thing would go, I suppose... use your "ability" to try to interfere with others'. ...Except that hunter orders are processed in real time. So the cultist could basically set up a Blank claim war. Heh.

Yes, if the cultist pulled duke he's hosed.. if the cultist dukes (gets revealed for duking, but nothing happens) for someone else they look suspicious. If the cultist pulled hunter, they could try to be the first shot of the day and block other hunters, and then get revealed as a hunter with no actual shot.

At least that is how I am interpreting the role description. They can put in an order to use the ability of the team they are on, but nothing will happen, but they will be revealed as having used it.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:19 PM   #319
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Zinto 4, Vaimes 3, Jackal 3, other candidates 1. Time to get moving, singleton voters.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:20 PM   #320
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I forgot cheek was voted out D1 last game, so I'll give him a pass today, just don't think it's fair to go that way twice in a row.

Unvote
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Might be it for me til deadline, if my meeting ends early I'll be around towards the end.


+1

I would rather see anyone other than Eagle or Cheeki get voted out today.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:21 PM   #321
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:22 PM   #322
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Zinto 4, Vaimes 3, Jackal 3, other candidates 1. Time to get moving, singleton voters.

BTW, my vote post was a crosspost with JAG's. So that was even more useful in eliminating the crop of 2-vote candidates. ...and it's also how I ended up voting away from the fray all the same.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:23 PM   #323
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Vote Tally (as of Post #322)

Zinto (5)-- Narcizo (108), The Jackal (283), Vaimes (312), JAG (316), fontisian (321)
Vaimes (3)-- Shoveler (95), Zinto (163), cheekimonk (293)
The Jackal (3)-- Raven (106), timmae (154), britrock88 (317)
timmae (1)-- EagleFan (82)
Shoveler (1)-- MartinD (83)
cheekimonk (1)-- Autumn (264)
fontisian (1)-- MrBug708 (178)

Yet To Vote: Grover

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Old 04-21-2015, 01:24 PM   #324
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Go ahead and get a claim out now?

Eager for info, are we?

Good thing I already claimed.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:24 PM   #325
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:26 PM   #326
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Though I questioned fontisian on her read, I do believe Vaimes is innocent. He was very playful in the first few posts about getting items, etc.

As far as Zinto goes, I haven't heard enough from him one way or the other.

Jackal? He's been fairly helpful, but nothing about him rubs me the wrong way.

So I've got a connundrum, because it's going to be one of these three to get the axe it looks like.

vote Zinto

If only because I feel better about not voting for Vaimes or Jackal.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:26 PM   #327
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Unvote Vaimes
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Not sure if it is a good idea to keep the votes close with the duking that will most likely start happening.

Anyhow, I'm moving off of Vaimes. I dont see a good reason to sit on him today as he hasn't been around.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:26 PM   #328
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Well this was an unfortunate run on me
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:30 PM   #329
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fontisian: you not responding to my badgering is indicative of pleading guilty to dabbling in witchcraft. Just so you know.

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Old 04-21-2015, 01:31 PM   #330
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That smiley (frowny?) is actually making me sad.

Please be a Wolf?
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:32 PM   #331
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Still have 4 singletons out there... also still ~90 minutes to lynch.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:34 PM   #332
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That smiley (frowny?) is actually making me sad.

Please be a Wolf?


Unfortunately, I am not. Fortunately, I do not have anything to reveal. Unfortunately, I have an item I wanted to use. Fortunately, it may be passed to one of my fellow villagers. Unfortunately, it may end up in wolfy hands.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:35 PM   #333
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Fun statistics for day one lynch, courtesy of Cheekicorp.

Chance of lynch leader being a duke: 50%
Chance of lynch leader duking to another duke: 46.67%
Chance of lynch leader duking to a wolf: 20%

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Old 04-21-2015, 01:36 PM   #334
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Still have 4 singletons out there... also still ~90 minutes to lynch.


Yeah I wonder if they are going to remember the deadline though. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with a few people where they are.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:38 PM   #335
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Though I questioned fontisian on her read, I do believe Vaimes is innocent. He was very playful in the first few posts about getting items, etc.

As far as Zinto goes, I haven't heard enough from him one way or the other.

Jackal? He's been fairly helpful, but nothing about him rubs me the wrong way.

So I've got a connundrum, because it's going to be one of these three to get the axe it looks like.

vote Zinto

If only because I feel better about not voting for Vaimes or Jackal.
Hey Zinto, if you're a duke, duke to Grover please.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:40 PM   #336
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Stepping out for an hour for lunch. I'll be back in time to do vote tallies and of course the deadline, but someone may need to track vote tallies in the interim.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:42 PM   #337
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Unfortunately, I am not. Fortunately, I do not have anything to reveal. Unfortunately, I have an item I wanted to use. Fortunately, it may be passed to one of my fellow villagers. Unfortunately, it may end up in wolfy hands.

You should give it to me!
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:48 PM   #338
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Hey Zinto, if you're a duke, duke to Grover please.

I would try and get me killed off if I spelled conundrum wrong too.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:54 PM   #339
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In quoting that post I just noticed for the first time that the Cultist becomes a wolf if attacked. Want to make sure everyone else sees that too.

Oh shit, I completely missed that (and forgot the part about the cultist not being able to duke or kill, despite having read that). Thanks for the catch!
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:55 PM   #340
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Meh. This isn't as fun as voting on a fairly blank slate and then having everyone else sort things out. I don't have much of a feeling about any of the leaders but I'm not liking the run on Zinto or how it's suddenly become a two-horse race. Of the three I think Zinto is the best candidate but I'm not enthused at the prospect of his death OR a possible duke to Jackal or Vaimes.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:58 PM   #341
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I am curious to see how the voting for who sits in second goes as much as who sits in first. Vaimes being pushed down for Jackal is something to keep in mind when looking at the voting for today. A wolf really doesn't want to be in first or second this game.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:58 PM   #342
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Meh. This isn't as fun as voting on a fairly blank slate and then having everyone else sort things out. I don't have much of a feeling about any of the leaders but I'm not liking the run on Zinto or how it's suddenly become a two-horse race. Of the three I think Zinto is the best candidate but I'm not enthused at the prospect of his death OR a possible duke to Jackal or Vaimes.


Don't worry I will duke it to you because you placed the first vote.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:59 PM   #343
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I have decent reads of both Jackal and Vaimes, and a neutral one of Zinto, so I'm going with that.

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Old 04-21-2015, 02:03 PM   #344
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Yuck, you guys really don't like me do you?
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Old 04-21-2015, 02:07 PM   #345
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Hey Zinto, if you're a duke, duke to Grover please.

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You should give it to me!

Man. I'm already worrying about the day where these two will be together on a wolfteam.
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Old 04-21-2015, 02:07 PM   #346
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I think I'm going to Daykill fontisian toMorrow.
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Old 04-21-2015, 02:09 PM   #347
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I am curious to see how the voting for who sits in second goes as much as who sits in first. Vaimes being pushed down for Jackal is something to keep in mind when looking at the voting for today. A wolf really doesn't want to be in first or second this game.

Good point. But it might be optimistic to assume that the dukes that end up in LL fall into line with our ideas about duking to #2 to generate information. They might just take a vig shot, given the chance.
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Old 04-21-2015, 02:27 PM   #348
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Vote Tally (as of Post #347)

Zinto (7)-- Narcizo (108), The Jackal (283), Vaimes (312), JAG (316), fontisian (321), Grover (326), Autumn (343)
The Jackal (4)-- Raven (106), timmae (154), britrock88 (317), Shoveler (327)
Vaimes (2)-- Zinto (163), cheekimonk (293)
timmae (1)-- EagleFan (82)
Shoveler (1)-- MartinD (83)
fontisian (1)-- MrBug708 (178)

Approaching runaway territory.
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Old 04-21-2015, 02:35 PM   #349
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"Approaching"?

Shouldn't wolf-Zinto be putting up more of a fight? I'm not really used to these situations. I guess he might be a duke and is trying save the argument for tomorrow but this feels like a villager to me.
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Old 04-21-2015, 02:36 PM   #350
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My hunch is that he's a hunter.
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