2017 NFL Week 2 Thread

[cuervo72]

Because the Bengals' ineptitude extends beyond Week 1 but is still being chronicled there.

[EagleFan]

What happens first?

Indians lose
Browns win
Bengals score a touchdown

[CrescentMoonie]

Browns win

[Atocep]

It's really hard to put into words just how bad Glennon is when pressured. He looks solid when he has a clean pocket though.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

Browns win

And Kizer is out with a migraine.

I wonder which QB they'll draft next.

[Suicane75]

Is that Panthers/Bills game as ugly as it looks?

[Thomkal]

Cards experience finally shows up just in time with a big INT in OT and then a FG for the win against the Colts. Whew.

[Thomkal]

I am now hoping for a shocking Jets win after almost everyone went with the Raiders in our Survival league.

[Suicane75]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

I am now hoping for a shocking Jets win after almost everyone went with the Raiders in our Survival league.

I am hoping Hannah Davis leaves Derek Jeter for me. Good luck to us both.

[Danny]

Youre not allowed to actually tackle apparently. Irvin should have politely asked him to fall to the ground

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

I am hoping Hannah Davis leaves Derek Jeter for me. Good luck to us both.

Miracles happen every day!

[Thomkal]

Weather delay in Denver-could be an hour

[molson]

I didn't catch him last week, but watching him on the Pats game this week - I really like Romo on TV. Knowledgeable, funny, some emotion, not too serious.

Edit: Though with the QB play on some teams thus far he probably can jump back on the field anytime if he wants.

[EagleFan]

WTF were the Dolphins doing calling a timeout? They deserved to have lost the game. They got lucky the kicker missed it.

[jbergey22]

Chargers off to a rough start in LA

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

WTF were the Dolphins doing calling a timeout? They deserved to have lost the game. They got lucky the kicker missed it.

I wasnt watching but I would assume they call the timeout at 10 seconds so they could get a chance on the return otherwise wouldnt the Chargers have ran it down to 3 seconds and called their own timeout?

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

I wasnt watching but I would assume they call the timeout at 10 seconds so they could get a chance on the return otherwise wouldnt the Chargers have ran it down to 3 seconds and called their own timeout?

The Chargers had no timeouts left. On 2nd down they "positioned" the ball in the middle of the field. With the clock running they were extremely confused, half of the offense started to go off the field and the other half was lining up to spike the ball. The kicking team was partly on the field. they were looking around trying to figure out what to do. At that points I see no chance that they could have gotten the kicking team on and set to get the kick off but Miami calls timeout.

The way the Chargers' offense was moving it almost seemed like some of them thought they still had a timeout left.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

The Chargers had no timeouts left. On 2nd down they "positioned" the ball in the middle of the field. With the clock running they were extremely confused, half of the offense started to go off the field and the other half was lining up to spike the ball. The kicking team was partly on the field. they were looking around trying to figure out what to do. At that points I see no chance that they could have gotten the kicking team on and set to get the kick off but Miami calls timeout.

The way the Chargers' offense was moving it almost seemed like some of them thought they still had a timeout left.

Yes, certainly odd timing to call it then.

Yahoo Sports said the Chargers had 2 left so Yahoo must be incorrect.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Yes, certainly odd timing to call it then.

Yahoo Sports said the Chargers had 2 left so Yahoo must be incorrect.

They actually had to use their last one the previous play when the receiver who caught the ball for the 1st down decides to celebrate instead of lining up for the next play. It was a very weird set of plays.

[EagleFan]

Goff being Goff...

[Thomkal]

Man, how bad does the NFC West look right now? Seahawks, which have never lost at home in September under Pete Carroll, have 7 straight wins against the Niners, needed until midway in the 4th to take the lead, Cardinals struggle to beat the Colts in OT with their 3rd string QB. Rams may be the best team there right now.

[Thomkal]

And for you Bengals fans:

Bengals coach Marvin Lewis reportedly faced 'near mutiny' after loss to Texans - CBSSports.com

And they fired their Offensive Coordinator

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Man, how bad does the NFC West look right now? Seahawks, which have never lost at home in September under Pete Carroll, have 7 straight wins against the Niners, needed until midway in the 4th to take the lead, Cardinals struggle to beat the Colts in OT with their 3rd string QB. Rams may be the best team there right now.

The Seahawks should still coast in that division, but their window has more or less closed. I don't see how they win multiple playoff games with that offensive line.

[bhlloy]

Marcellus Bennett is having about as bad a half as you can possibly have, short of having a couple of fumbles returned for TD's

[CrescentMoonie]

Redskins win, Eagles lose, Texas State Penitentiary All Stars get blown out. That's a good day.

If Zeke hit holes the way he does college girls maybe they would have had a chance.

[BishopMVP]

So is the pylon considered irrelevant & not an extension of the sideline? Makes sense if so, but don't think I've ever seen a runner or receiver hit it before having possession in the end zone. Nice catch by Adams.

[bhlloy]

Matt Bryant and now that catch by Adams have handed me two losses in leagues I was 75% sure to win the matchup before tonight. Awesome

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

So is the pylon considered irrelevant & not an extension of the sideline? Makes sense if so, but don't think I've ever seen a runner or receiver hit it before having possession in the end zone. Nice catch by Adams.

I assume it's considered the same as it is on a play where possession has been established - an extension of the goal line

[Galaril]

Broncos put the beat down on the Cowboys but looks like they lost their rookie left tackle to a season ending injury.

Update: guess it was just a bone bruise

[albionmoonlight]

Belichick likes Sean Payton, so he called off the dogs.

Had the Pats been in the mood, they could have put up 60 points and 700 yards.

Hard to believe, but the Saints' defense appears worse than the defenses over the last few years that set NFL records for sucking.

[albionmoonlight]

dola:

And credit to the Pats, who only had 3 WR active for the game due to injuries. Most teams would have assumed that was not doable and called up some practice squad guys or signed a street FA or two the week before the game so that they would have the "right" number of WRs active. And those guys would have been replacement level players at best (and probably worse b/c of lack of time practicing with the team/playbook).

The Pats realized that it's better to instead replace those WR spots with RBs and TEs that are good players and know the offense and not be so pigeonholed into "we need at least 5 WRs active on gameday" thinking.

[Thomkal]

Injury Report Week 2: Not good for Greg Olsen or Vic Beasley. Maybe not good for Randall Cobb.

Injuries: Pats' Hightower (MCL) could return this week - NFL.com

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

dola:

And credit to the Pats, who only had 3 WR active for the game due to injuries. Most teams would have assumed that was not doable and called up some practice squad guys or signed a street FA or two the week before the game so that they would have the "right" number of WRs active. And those guys would have been replacement level players at best (and probably worse b/c of lack of time practicing with the team/playbook).

The Pats realized that it's better to instead replace those WR spots with RBs and TEs that are good players and know the offense and not be so pigeonholed into "we need at least 5 WRs active on gameday" thinking.

Also helps that rumors of Tom Brady's demise were exaggerated for the 20th time. 4th game all time where a QB had >447 & 3 td's with 0 int's. Week 1 they looked good most of the time, had one very close non-TD from Gronk & were uncharacteristically stuffed on multiple 3rd/4th & short conversions that killed drives. Saw some growth and better chemistry with Cooks & particularly Dorsett this week.

Front 7's still a huge work in progress, but showed more consistency this week than last when a guy who basically hadn't practiced (Cassius Marsh) played most of the 2nd half. Deatrich Wise flashed a little - he already drew the Trey Flowers comparisons as a 4th round DE from Arkansas, so hopefully he can show the same growth Flowers did last year.

[CrescentMoonie]

Rooting for the Giants to make it 3 teams without a TD scored through 2 weeks.

[RainMaker]

The Chargers are going to be a bizarre thing for the NFL to deal with over the coming years. They have a fun team, brand new to LA, and couldn't draw 20,000 to their first home game. Imagine how empty the new stadium will look.

[EagleFan]

LA unable to support a football team, if only there was a way we could have seen that coming...

[bhlloy]

Cheapest primary market tickets were 200 dollars as well. I meant to check back to see what they were going for on the secondary market a few days before seeing as it wasn't going to sell out but completely forgot

Seems like pretty incredible hubris - a team moves to a city it has very little support and that quite frankly didn't want them, decides to play in a joke of a stadium and charges an outrageous amount for its first home game. Shouldn't they be trying to win people over? I can't see them lasting five years in LA at this pace.

[RainMaker]

This is at kickoff in the 25,000 seat stadium they are playing at. It was also apparently 50/50 Dolphins fans.

[bulletsponge]

that looks like a Chivas USA sized crowd

[Fidatelo]

We get more people for Blue Bombers games and our team has been terrible for the past 20+ years.

[bob]

Meanwhile Atlanta just got 70,000 for a regular season MLS game.

[bhlloy]

Where have all the decent offensive linemen gone this season? Seems like half the teams in the league can't even keep their QB up long enough to have a decent offense

[cuervo72]

The NFL has an offensive line crisis - The Washington Post

[Groundhog]

In theory at least, aren't college teams supposed to be preparing guys for the pros? If linemen aren't being taught NFL skills, why are they going to college, and why aren't NFL teams going after the best HS linemen and developing them themselves?

[Groundhog]

dola

But, I know the answer is 'money'.

[bhlloy]

Yeah, it's interesting to wonder when it might come to that. I'm also wondering what rule change the NFL puts in next to try and even the playing field.

[General Mike]

Giants should have gotten rid of Jerry Reese when Coughlin retired.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Groundhog

In theory at least, aren't college teams supposed to be preparing guys for the pros?

No. College teams are fielding teams that can win games in college.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by Groundhog

In theory at least, aren't college teams supposed to be preparing guys for the pros? If linemen aren't being taught NFL skills, why are they going to college, and why aren't NFL teams going after the best HS linemen and developing them themselves?

HS kids aren't eligible for the draft. You have to be at least 21 years old or 3 years removed from HS.

[RainMaker]

I also think part of the problem is offenses wanting to throw 40+ times a game. This has allowed defenses to play defenders who are strictly pass rushers.