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The new file is up. Free Agency starts off tomorrow morning.
I know I have a bunch of stuff for a few teams that I owe you. I'll try to find time to do that on Wednesday this week. (My wife is heading out of town for three weeks on Tuesday, so hoping to have a little more free time soon) |
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Live 3000 miles away from the in-laws and her work schedule have the entire summer off (school vacation) does the trick! She always goes to visit family for 3 weeks or so during the summer. |
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Thats it my in laws don't live far enough away. This is now noted in my Alan handbook. LOL
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Wow. Spring completely shut out of the post season awards.
Well, lets see if we can make some magic happen again with this apparent band of misfits! Oh and Alan, wow man. 3 weeks, and if the kids are gone, double wow. Some quiet time would be very welcome around here, although I'm not sure I'd like 3 whole weeks without my wife.
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It's not complete peace and quiet. I actually have to travel for work one weekend while they are gone, and supposedly my nephew and niece are going to be coming to use my pool with my mother for a few days as well and staying at my house to give my sister some peace and quiet (she's 9 months pregnant)...
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The new file is up. Spring training is tomorrow morning!
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***ATTENTION***
There is a new patch of OOTP11 out. Per our league rules, we don't upgrade until the end of the season, but we usually upgrade pretty soon after. That means we'll upgrade to the newest patch after the playoffs on Friday. For anyone in multiple online leagues and need information on how to run two different versions of OOTP11 (1 for each league), please let me know and I can help you out there so you don't hurt yourself for other leagues. http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=78455 Last edited by Alan T : 07-13-2010 at 09:00 AM. |
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Sorry for the delay this morning, I actually had to give an online training session for ssl vpns for our overseas network help desk this morning. I'll get this started in a few minutes.
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Yuck, what a crazy morning so far. I have 20 minutes till my next meeting. so lets get this going now! Getting exports
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Heh... we all have those kinds a mornings.
Just glad you can squeeze in where you can. Hope that the rest of your day isn't so hectic.
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The new file is up. Regular season runs tomorrow. We'll have a few team moves as well for tomorrow morning.
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Has anyone used a guy as a hitter and a SP yet? I have Sakurai who hit .350 as a rookie but the guy can start as a pitcher also. I could use the SP but I can also use his bat in my lineup. I am just puzzled on what I should decide here. Would appreciate any advice anyone has.
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Anyone else concerned about our growing pick list?
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I think putting in some talent randomness would fix this. I was going to ask later today if anything was decided for sure on this and another league being added. Thought maybe since its patch time it might be a good idea to add these things as well then.
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Hmm, I am not following, with respect to the talent randomness, but, then, I am not a morning person, so maybe you can expand on how it would address the issue a little more. What I am concerned with is that we are seeing people not signing their picks, for whatever reason, and than these picks go into the next year's draft and this feeds the cycle. I mean, consider my regular first round draft choice this year was the 18th overall pick, and this is a 16 team league. Between the "re-picks" and the free agent compensation, we appear to be on the road to eventually having a massive draft that would be prohibitive to even think to prepare for, especially if owners continue to be picky with which picks they sign (I mean we're even seeing first and second rounders not signed, and I don't think it's entirely because of lowball contract offers or missing owners). And I can't imagine that this is good for how the game determines the talent in the system and how it works into generating new talent, or how this all affects development or the overall balance of players at certain age levels. I am beginning to think that signing draft picks in a fast sim league like ours might be a whole lot more trouble than it's worth.
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The discussion that the league had and the follow up vote was to leave things as is with the exception of adding a rookie league. I'm working on incorporating it but still doing testing to make sure i get the modifiers correct for that league.
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07-14-2010, 10:09 AM | #29 |
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Talent randomness fixes it because the talent at the end of the draft has no hope in the current setup. There isn't a point to paying them because they will amount to very little if anything. With a talent randomness the guys towards the end of the draft might be missing just one area and they will be good to go. If they have a chance to get better then the money you spend to see what guys at the end of the draft become results in more picks getting signed. I know for myself that if a guy I drafted in round 4 becomes a star then I'll be angry I passed on signing him. Which in turn means I myself will sign almost every draft pick I make.
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Yeah, but I am not so concerned about the growing list of 4th or 5th rounders (although that doesn't help with talent distribution either). I am concerned with the growing list of first, supplementals and second rounders, as a result on non-signings. I have to believe all normal first and second round level talent players are worth signing even in this set up. But we're seeing a lot not get signed, and like I said, it just feeds the cycle. It practically makes any pick after the second round worthless, at this point. I mean, I guess these non-signed players are supposed to have gone back into the pool, but I haven't recognized a draftee from one year to the next yet, nor have I noticed an increase in talent as a result of a larger draft pool. The depth of the draft talent seems about the same as it has always been (admittedly that is just going off of my impressions and not a statistical analysis). I had three supplemental picks that ended up near the middle of the supplemental round (a little toward the back), and the three guys I got were all at the very back end of my list, around 40 or so, and I considered them roughly fringe players, really. Part of that is I did a shorter draft list, as it was late, but by pick 40 on my list, I wasn't feeling like I had left any real talent off of the list.
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07-14-2010, 10:24 AM | #31 |
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Chief check out this thread around post #25 the discussion started.
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Also, as we all know, how the AI handles the placement and order of supplemental picks is rather poorly done. In fact, I don't know yet that we even know for sure all the rules that the AI applies to it, and things that shouldn't matter, like when a free agent was signed, for instance, come into play for where you pick in the supplementals.
Now, this is no surprise; it was an issue with OOTPX, where FA compensation was first introduced. But before, when the picks all joined the teams that drafted them, we still had a manageable supplemental round and there was still at least a little value in second round picks. Sure, the weird AI rules might not always give you the best spot in the supplemental draft order, for whatever reason, but you figure eventually this all evens out. The problem is that the unsigned picks are expanding the supplemental round just like the other rounds, and now the odd order determinations of the AI are really starting to effect talent placement through the draft, especially now that we're getting to the point where the talent at the start of the supplemental draft is much higher than the end of that round, thanks to the growing pick list. And I don't even know if the AI is properly handling the placement of "re-picks". I know there was confusion over how the supplemental draft order was determined (and I certainly am still not entirely aware of how the AI determines it), and I suspect that there are similarly odd decisions in the gaming logic with respect to inserting "repicks" into the draft order as well.
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Yes. I think we should just scrap the advanced signing and go back to the old way with compensation only.
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I don't want talent randomness changed. The good teams aren't supposed to get star players in the draft, the bad teams are.
Even more, I don't like my 20 something year old star player turning into a bench player half way through the season sim.
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Also, I don't sign my 4th and 5th round picks because I don't give a damn about stocking my minors and they're never going to see the majors.
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This would also relieve us of having to add another level or supplying instructions for more advanced rookies and allow us to have full control of our lineups again.
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I guess I don't understand how it works. In the first round this year, there were 19 picks, yet we only have 16 teams. Did 3 teams not sign their #1 pick last year and they were compensated this year with picks in the 1st round?
I don't like that at all.
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I agree with everything Montreal_GM has said.
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Thanks, hyde. I do remember reading that discussion as it happened, although I couldn't pin it down before you linked to it. I think my issue isn't with talent randomness, which is really more of a workaround for a symptom of the problem, but the actual problem itself--that people aren't signing draft picks--may be affecting talent generation and distribution to a negative effect. For instance, I went to the 2012 Regular Season thread and viewed the list of picks that didn't sign. I think I recognized a couple in there that are still in the draft now, two drafts later (so they have now been unsigned two years running, and I am talking first & second round talent). But, as I said, I haven't noticed an increasing talent pool in the draft. The 40th player now seems to be about as good as the 40th player five or ten seasons ago. That tells me that the AI might be including the talent of these "re-picks" in its considerations for generating new talent, and it is generating less of that talent as a result. For example, let's say the AI generates an average of 20 top players, first round talents. Four go unsigned. Now 16 can begin their career and their development into major leaguers. The unsigned four go back into the draft. Now if the AI is doing this right, it should be generating a new group of 20 top players, and than the unsigned four would be there as well. So we should have 24 top players--an increased talent pool (but also increased picks, since the teams which didn't sign their picks get to pick again). I don't think the AI is doing this, once again, just judging from the similar talent distributions I am seeing from draft to draft. I think the AI is telling itself, "We have four unsigned top players from last year, so we only need to generate 16 new top players to get to our 20". This means the available talent is remaining static, while the number of picks are increasing, which is resulting in a fall of talent relative to draft position. And this is only further exacerbated as we get further along and more players are unsigned and more picks are added.
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Not that I can speak for everyone, but I think that some people didn't understand all of the ramifications and possible outcomes during that discussion. As we move along and see new elements, it makes sense that people are reopening and questioning. Question: If you don't sign a fourth or fifth pick, does that give you a supplemental pick for the next season? |
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I haven't checked for certain, but I am pretty sure that you just get your pick back again. So don't sign a fourth rounder, you'll get a second fourth rounder the next year. I am still uncertain how the AI determines where these "re-picks" are palced in the round order, though. I think in MLB, which I presume this is intended to model, the re-pick is either the same pick or one pick behind (so, if you fail to sign the 2nd pick of the 4th round in 2014, you get the 2nd or 3rd pick of the 4th round in 2015; hope that makes sense). Agree completely on your first paragraph. I know now I didn't fully understand the implications.
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No, you get another pick in that round next season.
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Thanks. Sorry it took 4 posts to get everything out.
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I really see a problem here. I don't think I have signed anyone drafted after the 3rd round since this went in. If that holds, eventually, I would end up with 10 picks in a round.
I'm sure that's the same for other folks.
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Thank you both! That makes more sense to me. But what we have here seems to be too little talent trickling down after that supplemental round so after the first pick and unless you have a supplemental pick, the rest of the draft is relatively pointless (whereas in the past I've been able to start picks 1-3 pretty consistently).
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Were all 36 of those supplemental picks due to FA signings? That seems like a lot to me.
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Same for the other rounds, if someone doesn't sign their supplemental pick they get another pick in the supplemental the next season.
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