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Old 05-24-2012, 08:04 PM   #1
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Rising Coaching Star Season 1 (FBCB)

Ok, so I just wanted to do a quick dynasty before I leave for the weekend. I also wanted to do one that incorporated my last weekend waste of time silly project called the FBCB Coach Salary calculator. I wanted to know when it would be a good time for a young coach to make jumps to jobs at a higher level. Rather than just visceral decisions, wanted it to be based on actual financials and other resource-laden issues.

Because this is a 50-year dynasty that will be done in one night, I'm going to go quite quickly. Also, I finally went through and reverted my files back to guys names and so, for the first time that I can remember, I'm actually going to play FBCB (outside of my online league) with actual dudes.

Anyway...I've installed a real coach names file for giggles and we'll get going.

I've started in 1912, but consider it as 2012 and moving forward..I just can't start in the modern and go into the future from scratch, it messses with my head.

We're going to start our guy at a small school and see if he manages to have any success at all. He'll start off with an initial contract and then we'll revisit his first deal after 3 years, though if something happens during that first three years that make us revisit it soon, then we'll also do that.

From there, we'll just keep moving along. Like I said, I'm going to be light in the details department unless someone seizes in and wants specifics. Just curious to see how this works out. I was inspired by these mid-major coaches who get programs, have some success in those jobs and manage to flip them into successful gigs and to play with the idea of whether you'd stay with a program like that (a la Gonzaga, Butler, VCU) or take a job and go elsewhere with it.


PILOT

So for starters, instead of having him start at a bottom basement program and work his way completely up -- mostly because that'd take a lot of time -- we're going to go the Brad Stevens route and have him inherit a program that's no higher than a 50 prestige in a conference that's no more than a 3 prestige.

One of the rules is that conference prestige is turned off and conference moves are also turned off (I'll do the latter manually) so it will force programs to top out at a certain level or not.

Even though I hate it, I also have the game activated to allow recruits to opt out and go to the pros. I think it'll do interesting things to parity and might level the field for the mid-majors in big ways. Injuries are on, academic suspensions off.

The CIT is turned on, but the CBI is turned off for the time being.


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Old 05-24-2012, 09:20 PM   #2
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Episode 2

So the idea is to pick a program that's in a mid-major conference with a team prestige not over 50. I wanted to pick a program that we'd heard of in the past, maybe that has had some mid-major success in real life, so it'd be a good leaping point for our new coach.

Anyway, after doing some evaluating our options, our coach Skip Winston is going to be the new head coach at Winthrop!

He's starting as a Level 0 coach. His first contract will pay him $104,371 per season. We'll start with a 3-year deal and see where that leads us.

Winthrop plays in the Big South (We're using the 2014 alignments in-game with no DC changes yet) and they're a 47 prestige program.

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Old 05-24-2012, 10:17 PM   #3
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Episode 3

1912-13 SEASON

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WINTHROP Schedule Date Opponent Record RPI Result Score Record -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11/14/12 vs. #22 Ohio State 24-4 18 L 96-56 0-1 12/04/12 Nebraska-Omaha 2-28 304 W 71-66 1-1 12/06/12 Florida A&M 6-21 286 W 70-63 2-1 12/11/12 at Oakland 18-11 144 W 76-68 3-1 12/14/12 at #20 UCLA 24-4 11 L 82-52 3-2 12/18/12 Army 3-26 284 W 77-63 4-2 12/21/12 at Loyola-Maryland 8-21 295 W 76-65 5-2 12/24/12 at Central Florida 11-17 110 W 79-70 6-2 12/27/12 at Northern Colorado 11-18 196 W 77-56 7-2 12/29/12 Houston Baptist 4-23 321 W 85-65 8-2 01/02/13 Charleston Southern 10-19 257 L 60-50 8-3 (0-1) 01/04/13 at Coastal Carolina 9-20 278 L 68-65 8-4 (0-2) 01/09/13 Presbyterian 9-20 267 W 71-62 9-4 (1-2) 01/11/13 at VMI 14-15 195 W 78-60 10-4 (2-2) 01/16/13 Longwood 5-24 308 W 76-47 11-4 (3-2) 01/18/13 Liberty 18-11 135 L 68-59 11-5 (3-3) 01/23/13 Gardner Webb 13-16 302 W 80-62 12-5 (4-3) 01/25/13 at High Point 13-16 161 W 64-54 13-5 (5-3) 01/30/13 at Radford 19-10 236 W 76-71 14-5 (6-3) 02/01/13 at Longwood 5-24 308 W 77-66 15-5 (7-3) 02/06/13 at Charleston Southern 10-19 257 W 67-59 16-5 (8-3) 02/08/13 High Point 13-16 161 W 94-61 17-5 (9-3) 02/13/13 at UNC Asheville 12-17 211 W 85-80 18-5 (10-3) 02/15/13 at Liberty 18-11 135 W 87-81 19-5 (11-3) 02/20/13 Coastal Carolina 9-20 278 W 78-68 20-5 (12-3) 02/22/13 Campbell 3-26 311 W 79-68 21-5 (13-3) 02/27/13 VMI 14-15 195 W 73-57 22-5 (14-3) 03/01/13 at Presbyterian 9-20 267 L 62-57 22-6 (14-4)

Here's the results from the first regular season. We'll now head to the Big South tournament. We're obviously a one-bid league, but if we get upset in the tourney, we're not going to get an at-large. But at least we know we'll be headed to the NIT no matter what by virtue of winning the regular season title.

Sure enough, we choked in the 2nd round of the conference tournament to Charleston Southern 64-57. So we'll await the NIT pairings.

We end up as an #8 seed in the NIT and will play #1 Richmond in the 1st round. We lose 87-69 and end the year 22-8.
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:41 PM   #4
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WINTHROP Potential Player Pos Yr Ins Jps Fts 3ps Hnd Pas Orb Drb Psd Prd Stl Blk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Abram Dampier C Sr* B F D D F C C B D C D A Jack Bravo PG Sr* C C D C B C D F D D D F Kurt Cone PF Sr B C D F D F B B C D C B Stephen Wallace SF Jr* D A A C D C D F C D C C Bryant Bankston SF Jr D C D D B C B F B C C D Mitchell Morrow SF So* D B C C C F C C D C C D Stevie Lawrence PG Fr D A B C C D C D C D A D Hyman Hunter SG Fr C B B C C B F D F F D F Jamie Pike PG Fr D A B B A C C D C D F F Brenton Cedillo C Fr D F F F C F C A C D C B

So heading into the 2nd season, we did a bit of a Larry Brown at SMU on the roster, so that the Year 3 team will possibly be the strongest class yet. We'll see how our recruiting efforts yield, we don't exactly have the most stellar recruiting staff in the world.

Still with another weak schedule in the books, the hope is that we can do what last year's team failed to do. I doubt we'll be that successful with a skeleton crew, but if we can at least tread water and make the CIT, we'll consider it a successful year.
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:08 AM   #5
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As expected, Winthrop is just a cut above the rest of the Big South conference.

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WINTHROP Schedule Date Opponent Record RPI Result Score Record -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11/10/13 vs. Texas-San Antonio 7-22 279 W 63-57 1-0 11/12/13 vs. Illinois State 26-5 34 L 75-52 1-1 11/25/13 Savannah State 7-22 274 W 55-53 2-1 11/27/13 Morehead State 15-16 169 W 52-49 3-1 12/03/13 Youngstown State 6-25 287 W 82-68 4-1 12/07/13 at South Dakota State 6-24 324 W 60-36 5-1 12/13/13 at William & Mary 6-24 299 L 76-74 5-2 12/17/13 at Wofford 12-19 246 W 71-61 6-2 12/19/13 at Colorado 18-11 71 L 77-54 6-3 12/22/13 at Army 6-24 277 W 77-36 7-3 12/24/13 at Houston Baptist 12-17 154 W 81-54 8-3 01/01/14 at Charleston Southern 13-18 230 W 72-53 9-3 (1-0) 01/03/14 VMI 9-22 301 W 63-50 10-3 (2-0) 01/08/14 Presbyterian 7-23 334 W 72-49 11-3 (3-0) 01/10/14 at Longwood 9-22 270 W 61-42 12-3 (4-0) 01/15/14 Liberty 18-14 190 W 62-48 13-3 (5-0) 01/17/14 at Radford 15-15 174 W 83-72 14-3 (6-0) 01/22/14 at Presbyterian 7-23 334 W 56-45 15-3 (7-0) 01/24/14 High Point 11-20 275 W 70-66 16-3 (8-0) 01/29/14 Gardner Webb 9-21 341 W 73-65 17-3 (9-0) 01/31/14 Charleston Southern 13-18 230 W 74-53 18-3 (10-0) 02/05/14 at Coastal Carolina 6-24 337 W 69-60 19-3 (11-0) 02/07/14 at Liberty 18-14 190 W 61-55 20-3 (12-0) 02/12/14 at High Point 11-20 275 L 74-73 20-4 (12-1) 02/14/14 Longwood 9-22 270 W 78-58 21-4 (13-1) 02/19/14 Radford 15-15 174 L 85-63 21-5 (13-2) 02/21/14 at UNC Asheville 15-16 225 W 86-54 22-5 (14-2) 02/26/14 Campbell 9-21 318 W 66-47 23-5 (15-2) 02/28/14 at VMI 9-22 301 W 59-50 24-5 (16-2) 03/05/14 vs. VMI 9-22 301 W 69-61 25-5 03/07/14 vs. UNC Asheville 15-16 225 W 75-57 26-5 03/08/14 vs. Liberty 18-14 190 L 72-64 26-6

Unfortunately, that choke job against Liberty in the conference tournament final means we won't be dancing despite running through through the conference in the regular season.

NIT here we come again.

We get a #7 seed and will face #2 St. John's in the first round of the NIT. We get blown out 78-39 and end the year at 26-7.

We used 5 scholarships and I'm hoping to fill the other two with decent transfers. With a year to go before the end of his contract, it seems we've done enough to fulfill the terms and be invited back. Until this team starts making the NCAAs, he's never going to be good enough to be considered for another job though unless it's a low-prestige program in a better conference.
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Old 05-25-2012, 01:02 AM   #6
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So it's Season 3 and I pretty much sim through it. It's a walk year and I have a strong feeling that if we can, we're going to look elsewhere outside of the 1-prestige Big South Conference. The deal is, I have a mechanism within my spreadsheet for a coach to determine what kind of job he can leave for whether he's fired or chooses to go in a walk year. That will determine the type of program we can take.

As of last year, that meant a program at 40 prestige or lower. But it also means we can look at a better conference program even if it's down on its luck.

Code:
WINTHROP Schedule Date Opponent Record RPI Result Score Record -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11/15/14 Air Force 20-9 110 L 82-65 0-1 11/20/14 vs. Saint Louis 12-18 254 W 82-70 1-1 11/22/14 vs. Ball State 11-19 253 L 75-60 1-2 11/24/14 vs. Penn State 5-25 195 W 68-52 2-2 11/29/14 at San Francisco 15-15 128 L 65-49 2-3 12/05/14 Albany 9-21 290 W 60-52 3-3 12/09/14 at UC Davis 6-23 258 W 89-63 4-3 12/12/14 at Notre Dame 19-10 24 L 64-54 4-4 12/17/14 South Dakota State 5-24 315 W 74-57 5-4 12/20/14 William & Mary 7-24 278 L 65-57 5-5 12/25/14 Colorado 10-20 234 W 70-62 6-5 12/31/14 at Charleston Southern 14-17 207 W 65-58 7-5 (1-0) 01/02/15 Gardner Webb 12-18 197 W 76-52 8-5 (2-0) 01/07/15 Presbyterian 17-14 148 L 75-69 8-6 (2-1) 01/09/15 Coastal Carolina 8-23 335 W 65-59 9-6 (3-1) 01/14/15 at High Point 10-20 288 W 65-57 10-6 (4-1) 01/16/15 at Longwood 9-22 266 W 66-46 11-6 (5-1) 01/21/15 Campbell 10-20 267 W 47-46 12-6 (6-1) 01/23/15 at Radford 16-15 206 L 67-55 12-7 (6-2) 01/28/15 at Presbyterian 17-14 148 W 78-56 13-7 (7-2) 01/30/15 Radford 16-15 206 W 77-49 14-7 (8-2) 02/04/15 Charleston Southern 14-17 207 W 53-51 15-7 (9-2) 02/06/15 High Point 10-20 288 W 91-87 16-7 (10-2) 02/11/15 Longwood 9-22 266 L 73-66 16-8 (10-3) 02/13/15 at VMI 12-19 289 W 82-68 17-8 (11-3) 02/18/15 at Gardner Webb 12-18 197 W 64-61 18-8 (12-3) 02/20/15 at UNC Asheville 11-19 287 W 59-41 19-8 (13-3) 02/22/15 Holy Cross 11-18 312 W 87-78 20-8 02/25/15 at Coastal Carolina 8-23 335 L 70-57 20-9 (13-4) 02/27/15 Liberty 13-18 282 W 70-38 21-9 (14-4) 03/04/15 vs. VMI 12-19 289 W 74-58 22-9 03/06/15 vs. Charleston Southern 14-17 207 L 67-64 22-10
Another year, another Big South tournament choke job. This time in the semi-finals to Charleston Southern.

Oh well. Back to the NIT for the 3rd straight year. We're a #7 seed again and we'll be playing Richmond, our foe from two years ago. We manage to win this time 70-69 and we'll take on the winner of Austin Peay and USC.

We took on Austin Peay and beat them 65-55 to advance to the Elite 8 of the NIT, a pretty surprising result for us. We take on 5th seed Kansas State (21-12) who went 9-9 in the Big 12 for a chance to go to MSG.

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Kansas State 67, Winthrop 52 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Winthrop (24-11, 14-4): Player Pos Min Fgm-a Ftm-a Off Reb Ast PF Pts Brenton Cedillo C 29 2-5 2-3 2 5 0 1 6 Joey Campagna PF 29 1-3 0-0 4 9 1 2 3 Hal Andrade SF 27 2-9 1-4 2 6 0 2 6 Stephen Wallace SG 29 5-10 0-0 1 4 2 3 12 Jamie Pike PG 29 3-12 3-8 0 3 3 1 10 Stevie Lawrence PG 18 1-4 2-3 1 2 3 2 4 Emmanuel Coker SG 10 2-4 0-0 1 2 0 1 4 Hyman Hunter SF 5 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 Donn Ross SG 2 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 Bryant Bankston PF 13 2-2 3-4 1 2 0 2 7 Arthur Prado C 9 0-1 0-0 0 1 1 4 0 Mitchell Morrow SF 1 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 Turnovers: 12 (B.Cedillo 2, J.Campagna 1, H.Andrade 2, S.Wallace 4, J.Pike 2, A.Prado 1) Blocked Shots: 2 (B.Cedillo 2) Steals: 4 (S.Wallace 1, S.Lawrence 1, E.Coker 1, B.Bankston 1) 3P FGs: 5-17 (J.Campagna 1-1, H.Andrade 1-3, S.Wallace 2-3, J.Pike 1-6, S.Lawrence 0-1, E.Coker 0-2, A.Prado 0-1) Kansas State (22-13, 9-9): Player Pos Min Fgm-a Ftm-a Off Reb Ast PF Pts Brian Bryan C 23 4-6 0-0 2 7 4 4 9 Harley Hoag PF 33 1-2 0-3 2 7 2 1 2 Edmundo Crandall SF 21 4-9 1-1 1 6 1 2 11 Frederick Guido SG 33 8-14 1-1 2 6 3 3 19 Mark Gordon PG 27 3-12 6-6 1 2 1 2 12 Gerry Williamson PG 16 2-7 0-0 0 0 2 1 4 Garrett Kitts SG 5 0-0 1-3 0 0 0 1 1 Lenny Freeman SF 25 2-3 1-3 2 7 2 2 5 John Guzman PF 13 1-1 2-2 1 1 0 0 4 Erwin Corle C 3 0-0 0-0 1 2 0 0 0 Chris Gibson SF 2 0-0 0-0 0 0 1 0 0 Turnovers: 10 (H.Hoag 1, E.Crandall 2, F.Guido 2, G.Williamson 1, L.Freeman 2, J.Guzman 1, E.Corle 1) Blocked Shots: 3 (H.Hoag 3) Steals: 7 (E.Crandall 2, M.Gordon 3, G.Williamson 2) 3P FGs: 5-14 (B.Bryan 1-2, E.Crandall 2-5, F.Guido 2-5, G.Williamson 0-2) Player of Game: SG Frederick Guido (KS ST)


We lose and end the year at 24-11. Despite the loss in prestige through his career, the post-season appearances have earned Skip a new contract with Winthrop that would lower his base salary to $95,559 per year, but with incentives and bonuses, he'll earn $144,779 next year in total compensation.

He decided to see what other options exist. In the end, it says that he can get a job at 44 prestige or lower. The idea here of course, is to get a pay raise and as a young, hot coach who has had a successful tenure -- NCAA appearances notwithstanding -- it'd be believable that some program would bring him in to clean up shop.

Looking at the options, the best opportunities were at Towson, William & Mary & Colorado State. In the end, the CSU job looked like the most attractive of those as it seemed to fall to us after Tim Miles only won 7 games the past year, so it seemed like the right move to make even though taking over the worst program in the (at the moment) 7-team Mountain West isn't going to be the easiest row to hoe.

Talking turkey though, salary goes up a lot. His new base salary is $381,500 and with other pay, bonuses and guarantees he's set to make $405,402 next year. If the team is more successful, he'll be in line to earn even more.

He gets a four-year contract to bring the Rams back. And with that, the work begins.
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