The Trump Presidency – 2016 - Page 312

RainMaker · 01-25-2019, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Bail set for Stone at $250,000 and he is limited in his travels to FL, NY, DC, and VA

Not really. It was a personal assurance bond. One of the perks of being a rich, powerful dude in our justice system.

Now if you get caught stealing a Snickers bar and don't have connections, then you have to put up money.

Atocep · 01-25-2019, 12:13 PM

Sounds like Trump may be caving on the border wall, at least temporarily, and is willing to reopen the government while more talks take place. Which means this entire thing was pointless as that was the deal floated before the shutdown started.

Edit: I'm guessing Trump really wants his SotU more than anything.

albionmoonlight · 01-25-2019, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Edit: I'm guessing Trump really wants his SotU more than anything.

And to get Roger Stone off the front page.

PilotMan · 01-25-2019, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

I used to travel to Parsippany for work by flying into Newark. It has to be the worst airport in America.

I wouldn't say that anymore. A lot of money has been poured into the airport and with the construction of a new concourse opening in 2 years, it's much improved from where it was 10 years ago.

spleen1015 · 01-25-2019, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Sounds like Trump may be caving on the border wall, at least temporarily, and is willing to reopen the government while more talks take place. Which means this entire thing was pointless as that was the deal floated before the shutdown started.

Edit: I'm guessing Trump really wants his SotU more than anything.

That's my take, too. This morning it still looked like there was no end in sight. Now this afternoon they are nearing a deal.

If it was this easy, why not do it before the shutdown even starts?

Lathum · 01-25-2019, 12:29 PM

11:00 out of Orlando. Arriving 1:45 into Newark.

JPhillips · 01-25-2019, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

I wouldn't say that anymore. A lot of money has been poured into the airport and with the construction of a new concourse opening in 2 years, it's much improved from where it was 10 years ago.

Newark isn't even the worst in the metro area. (I'm looking at you LaGuardia.)

AlexB · 01-25-2019, 12:39 PM

I do like Stone thinking the best way to demonstrate his loyalty to Trump was to pose in the stance associated with Nixon...

I was gonna post an image of the double Vs, but he’s done it a few times before. Maybe a genius subliminal ‘Come and Get Me’ plea to Mueller to show that despite his pledges of loyalty to Trump, Stone is prepared to show that Trump is as dirty as Nixon?

SackAttack · 01-25-2019, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexB

I do like Stone thinking the best way to demonstrate his loyalty to Trump was to pose in the stance associated with the only President to be impeached while in office...

I was gonna post an image of the double Vs, but he’s done it a few times before. Maybe a genius subliminal ‘Come and Get Me’ plea to Mueller to show that despite his pledges of loyalty to Trump, Stone is prepared to show that Trump is as dirty as Nixon?

I'm sorry, what?

Two Presidents have been impeached (neither removed from office), and Dick Nixon wasn't one of them.

AlexB · 01-25-2019, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

I'm sorry, what?

Two Presidents have been impeached (neither removed from office), and Dick Nixon wasn't one of them.

My bad, edited so that the gist of the message remains - I was sure that was a fact

Dola edit - aha: only President to resign from office, not impeached.

cartman · 01-25-2019, 01:26 PM

When you want a wall but you get a cave.

albionmoonlight · 01-25-2019, 01:26 PM

Trump announces deal to re-open for three weeks.

Thanks federal workers for their sacrificing and for not complaining (in fact, we apparently kept calling Trump to urge him to keep not paying us. Who knew?)

Now going on a long speech about how awesome walls are. I guess you have to give him that. He does seem to have figured out that "Coyote" does not actually refer to a small furry animal in the immigration context, so I guess that's something, too.

albionmoonlight · 01-25-2019, 01:31 PM

Apparently human traffickers are smart enough to know whether to turn left or right to get into the United States depending on which way they are facing so we need a wall to stop people that sophisticated.

(And now I'm gonna stop listening because he just said that human trafficking is worse that it has ever been in human history while standing in the garden of a house built with slave labor.)

sabotai · 01-25-2019, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

And his lawyer already complaining about the SWAT team waking stone up at 6 am to arrest him. Awww poor baby.

That made me think of this from Chapelle's Show (obviously NSFW): Chappelle's Show - Tron Carter's "Law & Order" - Uncensored - YouTube

bronconick · 01-25-2019, 02:03 PM

I hope he signs this before Ann Coulter calls him a pussy again.

Thomkal · 01-25-2019, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Not really. It was a personal assurance bond. One of the perks of being a rich, powerful dude in our justice system.

Now if you get caught stealing a Snickers bar and don't have connections, then you have to put up money.

How about a Twix bar then-just the right side of course

Thomkal · 01-25-2019, 02:20 PM

Stone will be interviewed on Tucker Carlson's show tonight, where I am sure he will confess everything..

Schmidty · 01-25-2019, 02:29 PM

I’m just glad it’s over. This has been a massive clusterfuck. I don’t care which side is actually to blame, they are all fucking, selfish assholes.

Edward64 · 01-25-2019, 02:33 PM

If Pelosi continues to win/tie, I would seriously consider her for President 2020

Unless there has been more progress made than we know, I wouldn't think 3 weeks is enough time

Lathum · 01-25-2019, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

I’m just glad it’s over. This has been a massive clusterfuck. I don’t care which side is actually to blame, they are all fucking, selfish assholes.

One group is selfish and one is doing right by the American people. I’ll let you decided.

Radii · 01-25-2019, 02:38 PM

With all of the insane shit happening recently, I feel like we've glossed over one of the worst:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...rruled-n962221

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Kushner's was one of at least 30 cases in which Kline overruled career security experts and approved a top-secret clearance for incoming Trump officials despite unfavorable information

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Kushner's FBI background check identified questions about his family's business, his foreign contacts, his foreign travel and meetings he had during the campaign

Trump has appointed at least 30 people who were recommended for rejection of security clearances, but a Trump appointee apparently has the power to completely ignore those recommendations and approve them anyway. Awesome.

Kodos · 01-25-2019, 03:01 PM

He's the Law & Order President, of course.

kingfc22 · 01-25-2019, 03:06 PM

How many golf trips will he take over the next 3 weeks?

bronconick · 01-25-2019, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Stone will be interviewed on Tucker Carlson's show tonight, where I am sure he will confess everything..

Coulter's going to be on Maher's show tonight if you want to see a "conservative" rip Trump a new one.

Thomkal · 01-25-2019, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick

Coulter's going to be on Maher's show tonight if you want to see a "conservative" rip Trump a new one.

I'll be glued to my seat! (not)

larrymcg421 · 01-25-2019, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

If Pelosi continues to win/tie, I would seriously consider her for President 2020

What? No. I'm as big a fan of Nancy Pelosi as there is, but that's a terrible idea.

Radii · 01-25-2019, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick

Coulter's going to be on Maher's show tonight if you want to see a "conservative" rip Trump a new one.

Two of my least favorite people in the world. Holy cow no thanks.

digamma · 01-25-2019, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

If Pelosi continues to win/tie, I would seriously consider her for President 2020

You're definitely the funniest poster on the board. This is a great one!

Thomkal · 01-25-2019, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick

I hope he signs this before Ann Coulter calls him a pussy again.

Too late?

Good news for George Herbert Walker Bush: As of today, he is no longer the biggest wimp ever to serve as President of the United States.

Thomkal · 01-25-2019, 08:35 PM

Trump signs bill to end the shutdown

NobodyHere · 01-25-2019, 08:37 PM

I guess rich people not being able to fly was the tipping point?

RainMaker · 01-25-2019, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Too late?

Good news for George Herbert Walker Bush: As of today, he is no longer the biggest wimp ever to serve as President of the United States.

HW flew dangerous missions in WW2.

Thomkal · 01-25-2019, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

HW flew dangerous missions in WW2.

Well she thought a draft dodger was the best President ever until today, so no surprise she wasn't a fan of Bush.

SackAttack · 01-25-2019, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Too late?

Good news for George Herbert Walker Bush: As of today, he is no longer the biggest wimp ever to serve as President of the United States.

He never was. Sorry, Ann.

Edward64 · 01-25-2019, 09:55 PM

I'm okay if they want to apologize in making a premature statement but its weird them saying they were being "bullied". I'm sure there was pressure but com'on.

Just say we made a mistake without seeing the whole video etc., we want to see how the investigation plays out before making any decisions.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/us/co...ogy/index.html

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A Catholic diocese in Kentucky said Friday it was "bullied and pressured" into a making a premature statement about a viral video showing a confrontation between a Native American elder and a Catholic school student, according to a letter the diocese's bishop wrote to parents.

The Rev. Roger J. Foys said in the letter that the leadership of the Diocese of Covington was "being pressured from all sides to make a statement" about the video clip.

"We are sorry that this situation has caused such disruption in the lives of so many," Foys wrote. "We apologize to anyone who has been offended in any way of our statements which were made with good will based on the information we had. We should not have allowed ourselves to be bullied and pressured into making a statement prematurely, and we take full responsibility for it."

Foys wrote he especially wanted to apologize to Covington Catholic High School student Nick Sandmann -- the teen featured prominently in the video -- his family and all the Covington families affected by the video.

"Nicholas unfortunately has become the face of these allegations based on video clips. This is not fair. It is not just," Foys wrote.

JPhillips · 01-25-2019, 09:58 PM

No acceptance that the kids still did some objectionable things. This whole scenario teaches that you can probably talk your way out of anything that gets you into trouble.

Edward64 · 01-25-2019, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

What? No. I'm as big a fan of Nancy Pelosi as there is, but that's a terrible idea.

Serious question, why?

NobodyHere · 01-25-2019, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

Serious question, why?

Does she appeal to places like Michigan or Wisconsin?

lungs · 01-25-2019, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Does she appeal to places like Michigan or Wisconsin?

She'd go over just as well as Hillary did here.

Pelosi is much more effective in the House. I've never been a huge Pelosi fan, but this episode has taught me a lesson. The people in charge of the House or Senate may not be the most likable but if they play the political game well, they are doing their job. Paul Ryan failed in that regard. He wanted to be liked. Perhaps due to an aspiration for higher office. Pelosi is in a safe seat and doesn't give a shit whether somebody in Wisconsin like me is a fan.

I won't elevate her to the level of Lyndon Johnson in terms of effectiveness but when you've got somebody that is politically incompetent as Trump in the White House, she is a good counter.

Edward64 · 01-25-2019, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lungs

She'd go over just as well as Hillary did here.

Pelosi is much more effective in the House. I've never been a huge Pelosi fan, but this episode has taught me a lesson. The people in charge of the House or Senate may not be the most likable but if they play the political game well, they are doing their job. Paul Ryan failed in that regard. He wanted to be liked. Perhaps due to an aspiration for higher office. Pelosi is in a safe seat and doesn't give a shit whether somebody in Wisconsin like me is a fan.

I won't elevate her to the level of Lyndon Johnson in terms of effectiveness but when you've got somebody that is politically incompetent as Trump in the White House, she is a good counter.

Similar to your thoughts, if Pelosi proves effective against Trump (can keep Dems aligned, can play the GOP against each other etc.) she would seem to be a good contender.

Brian Swartz · 01-26-2019, 02:26 AM

The point as I understand is that there's a difference between being a good congressional leader and being a good president. There's a reasonable argument that the skillsets required are mutually exclusive. I think you can be a good Senator and a good President - but maybe not a good Speaker/Majority Leader.

PilotMan · 01-26-2019, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

No acceptance that the kids still did some objectionable things. This whole scenario teaches that you can probably talk your way out of anything that gets you into trouble.

trupm taught us that 3 years ago, this only reinforces it.

PilotMan · 01-26-2019, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lungs

She'd go over just as well as Hillary did here.

Pelosi is much more effective in the House. I've never been a huge Pelosi fan, but this episode has taught me a lesson. The people in charge of the House or Senate may not be the most likable but if they play the political game well, they are doing their job. Paul Ryan failed in that regard. He wanted to be liked. Perhaps due to an aspiration for higher office. Pelosi is in a safe seat and doesn't give a shit whether somebody in Wisconsin like me is a fan.

I won't elevate her to the level of Lyndon Johnson in terms of effectiveness but when you've got somebody that is politically incompetent as Trump in the White House, she is a good counter.

Pretty much what the right was saying about McConnell during the Obama presidency.

stevew · 01-26-2019, 08:13 AM

Pelosi is older than Bernie fwiw.

JPhillips · 01-26-2019, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

Serious question, why?

Look at the response to Trump's speech she did with Schumer. She's not a great campaigner and struggles with messaging.

Edward64 · 01-26-2019, 08:47 AM

Sure, others are more charismatic.

But she is the best chance to counter Trump the remaining 2 years and if she does that effectively I think she deserves the shot if she wants it (which she probably does not).

TBH, I would value someone that knows how to play the game, has built up relationships across the aisle, knows how to negotiate politically etc.

Don't know much about her foreign policy stance and she is probably too left for me though.

JPhillips · 01-26-2019, 09:11 AM

But deserves has nothing to do with it. She wouldn't win a primary.

Drake · 01-26-2019, 09:23 AM

I wouldn't vote for her.

I think of Pelosi like the Renee Zellweger of politics. I fucking hate Renee Zellweger. Every time I see her, I want to punch her in her stupid face. I hate her so much, I can't even watch Cold Mountain, and that movie has Nicole Kidman NAKED. Zellweger fucking ruins it.

And yet, I agree with the consensus that she's a brilliant and talented actress.

That's how I feel about Pelosi as a politician.

sabotai · 01-26-2019, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

HW flew dangerous missions in WW2.

That didn't stop Newsweek from (sorta) calling him a wimp on the cover of their magazine (which is I think what Thomkal was referencing?). Full disclosure, I only know about because Bill Hicks had a bit about it.

Thomkal · 01-26-2019, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

That didn't stop Newsweek from (sorta) calling him a wimp on the cover of their magazine (which is I think what Thomkal was referencing?). Full disclosure, I only know about because Bill Hicks had a bit about it.

That was Ann Coulter who called him the biggest wimp.

01-25-2019, 12:13 PM	#15552
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Sounds like Trump may be caving on the border wall, at least temporarily, and is willing to reopen the government while more talks take place. Which means this entire thing was pointless as that was the deal floated before the shutdown started. Edit: I'm guessing Trump really wants his SotU more than anything. Last edited by Atocep : 01-25-2019 at 12:14 PM.

01-25-2019, 12:39 PM	#15558
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	I do like Stone thinking the best way to demonstrate his loyalty to Trump was to pose in the stance associated with Nixon... I was gonna post an image of the double Vs, but he’s done it a few times before. Maybe a genius subliminal ‘Come and Get Me’ plea to Mueller to show that despite his pledges of loyalty to Trump, Stone is prepared to show that Trump is as dirty as Nixon? __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports! Last edited by AlexB : 01-25-2019 at 01:22 PM.

01-25-2019, 01:26 PM	#15561
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	When you want a wall but you get a cave. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

01-25-2019, 02:20 PM	#15567
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Stone will be interviewed on Tucker Carlson's show tonight, where I am sure he will confess everything.. __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

01-25-2019, 02:29 PM	#15568
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	I’m just glad it’s over. This has been a massive clusterfuck. I don’t care which side is actually to blame, they are all fucking, selfish assholes. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

01-25-2019, 12:29 PM	#15556
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	11:00 out of Orlando. Arriving 1:45 into Newark.

01-25-2019, 01:26 PM	#15562
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Trump announces deal to re-open for three weeks. Thanks federal workers for their sacrificing and for not complaining (in fact, we apparently kept calling Trump to urge him to keep not paying us. Who knew?) Now going on a long speech about how awesome walls are. I guess you have to give him that. He does seem to have figured out that "Coyote" does not actually refer to a small furry animal in the immigration context, so I guess that's something, too.

01-25-2019, 01:31 PM	#15563
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Apparently human traffickers are smart enough to know whether to turn left or right to get into the United States depending on which way they are facing so we need a wall to stop people that sophisticated. (And now I'm gonna stop listening because he just said that human trafficking is worse that it has ever been in human history while standing in the garden of a house built with slave labor.)

01-25-2019, 02:03 PM	#15565
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	I hope he signs this before Ann Coulter calls him a pussy again.

01-25-2019, 02:33 PM	#15569
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	If Pelosi continues to win/tie, I would seriously consider her for President 2020 Unless there has been more progress made than we know, I wouldn't think 3 weeks is enough time

01-25-2019, 03:01 PM	#15572
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	He's the Law & Order President, of course. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

01-25-2019, 03:06 PM	#15573
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	How many golf trips will he take over the next 3 weeks? __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

01-25-2019, 08:35 PM	#15580
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Trump signs bill to end the shutdown __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

01-25-2019, 08:37 PM	#15581
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	I guess rich people not being able to fly was the tipping point? __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

01-25-2019, 09:58 PM	#15586
JPhillips General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	No acceptance that the kids still did some objectionable things. This whole scenario teaches that you can probably talk your way out of anything that gets you into trouble. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

01-26-2019, 02:26 AM	#15591
Brian Swartz Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2006	The point as I understand is that there's a difference between being a good congressional leader and being a good president. There's a reasonable argument that the skillsets required are mutually exclusive. I think you can be a good Senator and a good President - but maybe not a good Speaker/Majority Leader.

01-26-2019, 08:13 AM	#15594
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Pelosi is older than Bernie fwiw.

01-26-2019, 08:47 AM	#15596
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	Sure, others are more charismatic. But she is the best chance to counter Trump the remaining 2 years and if she does that effectively I think she deserves the shot if she wants it (which she probably does not). TBH, I would value someone that knows how to play the game, has built up relationships across the aisle, knows how to negotiate politically etc. Don't know much about her foreign policy stance and she is probably too left for me though.

01-26-2019, 09:11 AM	#15597
JPhillips General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	But deserves has nothing to do with it. She wouldn't win a primary. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

01-26-2019, 09:23 AM	#15598
Drake assmaster Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bloomington, IN	I wouldn't vote for her. I think of Pelosi like the Renee Zellweger of politics. I fucking hate Renee Zellweger. Every time I see her, I want to punch her in her stupid face. I hate her so much, I can't even watch Cold Mountain, and that movie has Nicole Kidman NAKED. Zellweger fucking ruins it. And yet, I agree with the consensus that she's a brilliant and talented actress. That's how I feel about Pelosi as a politician.

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