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Old 04-13-2009, 09:37 AM   #1501
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I'm going to go on Abe at this point. I don't see that the day one action exonerates him.

If someone can put together a few posts by USFL that they think highlight his "conversion" I'd like to see that.

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Old 04-13-2009, 09:53 AM   #1502
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I'd like to introduce Danny back into the mix though. Looking back through the thread, Danny was active in thread when Clap revealed himself day one, and chose not to move his vote "to let Chief decide it". Maybe this has been talked about ad nauseum and I'm just now pondering it, but that seems more telling than what we have on most anyone.
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Old 04-13-2009, 10:07 AM   #1503
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I'd like to introduce Danny back into the mix though. Looking back through the thread, Danny was active in thread when Clap revealed himself day one, and chose not to move his vote "to let Chief decide it". Maybe this has been talked about ad nauseum and I'm just now pondering it, but that seems more telling than what we have on most anyone.

There was no point in moving my vote as a villager. Lathum broke the tie plenty of time before deadline and I wasn't going to move my vote just so I would look better in case Clap turned out to be telling the truth. The fact that I was on and active until deadline, ready to make a change if needed should tell you something, especially since both players up for a lynch were villagers.
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Old 04-13-2009, 11:35 AM   #1504
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There was no point in moving my vote as a villager. Lathum broke the tie plenty of time before deadline and I wasn't going to move my vote just so I would look better in case Clap turned out to be telling the truth. The fact that I was on and active until deadline, ready to make a change if needed should tell you something, especially since both players up for a lynch were villagers.

Lathum broke the tie at 7:58. I'm not sure that I'd call that "plenty of time."
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Old 04-13-2009, 11:43 AM   #1505
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Hi Hoops, hi Pass. I miss one of you this game...
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Old 04-13-2009, 11:44 AM   #1506
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Autumn, Danny, USFL, and Abe make up my bottom three in trust. I'm not sure which is the best way to go but I'll be curious to watch vote movement come deadline. I wouldn't put it past the wolves to attempt to manipulate a tie.
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Old 04-13-2009, 11:45 AM   #1507
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That should read Autumn: Danny, USFL, and Abe...

Don't want it to look like Autumn is down there or that I can't count.
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Old 04-13-2009, 11:47 AM   #1508
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Old 04-13-2009, 11:58 AM   #1509
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Old 04-13-2009, 12:33 PM   #1510
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My first thought, no joke, when I saw Eagles had posted in thread was "Man he's been really UTR. I can't think about a single play he's made." Clearly being up since 4:30 is already taking it's toll.

lol, hmmm, that gives me an idea for my next game...
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Old 04-13-2009, 12:37 PM   #1511
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Update as of 1510:

USFLTecmo 4 - Abe Sargent (1466), lerriuqs (1485), Danny (1489), Barkeep40 (1493)
Abe Sargent 4 - PuedueBrad (1475), dubb93 (1484), USFLTecmo (1491), Autumn (1501)

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Old 04-13-2009, 12:44 PM   #1512
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As time inches closer to your next deadline everyone begins to get less and less trusting of others. Every move, every word, almost every thought comes into question.

Looking around you see nothing different about your surroundings, except that the bodies have all been removed (again without anyone seeing). It seems that your company uses the same maid service as the Capone family.

"Tick tock!!! Time draws near!!!"

Who will survive this week? Will the remaining Insider(s) receive a big fat bonus check? Tune in next week, the same bat time...
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Old 04-13-2009, 02:33 PM   #1513
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I'm out until right around the deadline but I will do what I have to to make sure there is not a tie.
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Old 04-13-2009, 03:08 PM   #1514
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Since we've averaged something like one post every three hours for the past several days, let's got some conversation started, something I may have to consider later.


You are later in the game. The vote is going to be a tie. You are a vanilla villager. You are the only one on at the moment, time is about to expire. A tie is no lynch. No lynches for the village are very bad.

Do you switch your vote to yourself, so the village gets a lynch? It means that you kill a guaranteed villager rather than have no one die, but the rest of your villagers don;t know that, so they can use the guaranteed info in their analysis. It keeps the game moving forward.

So, what do you do? Move your vote, or go in with a tie?
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Old 04-13-2009, 03:21 PM   #1515
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Since we've averaged something like one post every three hours for the past several days, let's got some conversation started, something I may have to consider later.


You are later in the game. The vote is going to be a tie. You are a vanilla villager. You are the only one on at the moment, time is about to expire. A tie is no lynch. No lynches for the village are very bad.

Do you switch your vote to yourself, so the village gets a lynch? It means that you kill a guaranteed villager rather than have no one die, but the rest of your villagers don;t know that, so they can use the guaranteed info in their analysis. It keeps the game moving forward.

So, what do you do? Move your vote, or go in with a tie?

Something I'll have to consider too, although PB seems adamant about making sure this decision won't come up, at least this round.

At this point, it might be something to consider, but if we get down to 6, with a 3-3 vote tie, that's cutting it too close to KNOWINGLY kill off a villager (even a vanilla one).
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Old 04-13-2009, 04:10 PM   #1516
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I've got someone coming over tonight, so my time will be limited. Which is too bad.

Hopefully there will be some discussion over the next three hours that will move some votes aroudn. Let's hear it.
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Old 04-13-2009, 04:19 PM   #1517
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Just got back to a computer catching up now.
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Old 04-13-2009, 04:28 PM   #1518
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A tie is awful at this point. Lets see if this gets any conversation started:

Unvote Abe
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Old 04-13-2009, 04:31 PM   #1519
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I just hope no one else goes my way, because at this point, I'm pretty sure there's an insider or two voting for me. If it tilts too much further, they can hide.

Abe, squirrel, and Danny are on my distrust list, but only lerriuqs gave me any real vibe among the three, and me pointing out what I think is a lerriuqs wolf play has gotten me into this position at this point.

That's pretty much all I've got at the moment.
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Old 04-13-2009, 04:57 PM   #1520
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Lathum broke the tie at 7:58. I'm not sure that I'd call that "plenty of time."

I guess it only seemed like that. Fair enough, but I did make a post after that and before deadline, so I was ready
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Old 04-13-2009, 05:05 PM   #1521
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Going to get some food. I'll be around until deadline to see what developments there are.
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Old 04-13-2009, 06:58 PM   #1522
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Well, good luck guys.
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:22 PM   #1523
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Wow, huh? It was deadline at 8 EST, right?
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:24 PM   #1524
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I have to assume this is bad news that no one felt like making any last minute moves. Thanks for breaking the tie dubb. I guess I wouldn't have done anything if I'd been here at deadline, but I don't like the looks of this.
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:27 PM   #1525
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Yea, I was here at deadline and I think I was alone. Very odd.
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:28 PM   #1526
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I have to assume this is bad news that no one felt like making any last minute moves. Thanks for breaking the tie dubb. I guess I wouldn't have done anything if I'd been here at deadline, but I don't like the looks of this.

I think the only ones on at deadline were PB and I.
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:29 PM   #1527
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I think the only ones on at deadline were PB and I.

I was here too but I didn't see you guys. I think I was here with Chief and someone else not playing.
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:30 PM   #1528
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The dead players are more into the game than the living ones. Bad sign. I've got to go again for a bit but I'll check back in.
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:37 PM   #1529
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I was here too but I didn't see you guys. I think I was here with Chief and someone else not playing.

I didn't see either of you, but I was only in and out
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:42 PM   #1530
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Yea, I was here at deadline and I think I was alone. Very odd.

I had a staff meeting at 8 on Mondays so I could not be around until now.
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:44 PM   #1531
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No EF, he's dropping the ball!
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:46 PM   #1532
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I'm off to play some FOF 2k1 and update my dynasty with the latest in the Albuquerque Rail Runners. See ya after EF gets back
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:57 PM   #1533
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EF is in trouble! the wife put him on lockdown!

:doesnt know if EF is married or not.... :
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Old 04-13-2009, 08:44 PM   #1534
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Ok now m getting worried.
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Old 04-13-2009, 08:45 PM   #1535
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heh. Too bad I can;t edit. I didn;t mean to italicize it. The I for italicize was supposed to be the I in I'm
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Old 04-13-2009, 08:48 PM   #1536
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Sorry all. Had one of those work "emergencies" that the client couldn't wait for until the morning (though it's been ongoing for three weeks before they said anything tonight).
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Old 04-13-2009, 08:49 PM   #1537
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Going to get the first results ready to go and then give the involved parties a chance to change their night orders if they feel the need to.

ps: The wife didn't put me on lock down, at least not yet.
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Old 04-13-2009, 08:56 PM   #1538
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As the time draws near everyone seems to be stuck, they can't decide between Abe or USFL. A debate rages on and no one seems to be budging. Suddenly one person steps forward and says "that's it, we need to find something out and not let another day go by where we learn nothing."

The votes are calculated. USFL ends up on the wrong end of the verdict. You turn towards him and move in for the kill.

"Why me?" he asks. "I just started. How could I be an executive already?"

You ignore him and begin to pummel him until his body lies limp across an empty desk. You begin to search him and find little except an ID badge. He was a regular worker just like you, well just like some of you.

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Old 04-13-2009, 08:57 PM   #1539
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Damn, sucks. I really liked the vote analysis that led to this too.
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Old 04-13-2009, 09:02 PM   #1540
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Damn, sucks. I really liked the vote analysis that led to this too.
What vote analysis?
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Old 04-13-2009, 09:11 PM   #1541
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Old 04-13-2009, 09:17 PM   #1542
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I think he means my posting of each day and where known good/evil players voted that is color coded.
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Old 04-13-2009, 09:20 PM   #1543
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I thought we had the converted wolf there. Those of us who voted him don't look very good now. Right now, I really don't know where to go with my next vote, but Lerriques early switch did catch my attention. I may go there with my next vote.
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Old 04-13-2009, 09:21 PM   #1544
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You gather for the next meeting, the next restructuring. Yur group is shrinking and you noice it has shrunk some more. lerriuqs is missing.

You leave the room and search frantically. No one can find him. Where is he? Did he survive?

Just then someone yells "Here!"

You rush to see what has been found. It is lerriuqs, his body is laying in the bathroom. A crushed roll of paper towels lie next to him. A pink slip is pinned to his chest. You notice writing on it, it says "detacidare tsep".

"Next!!!! The end may be near!!! But will I stop?!?! I must get that bonus, I must get that BMW. Please include a cover sheet on your TPS or you WILL be next."
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Old 04-13-2009, 09:22 PM   #1545
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Right now, I still trust Autumn for the most part and PB of course. I want to look into the voting again after the new information. Still, the fact that we caught all three wolves without a vote analysis is making this a lot tougher.
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Old 04-13-2009, 09:24 PM   #1546
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Well there goes that idea. That seems like an odd choice for a night kill with him likely to be a top suspect.
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Old 04-13-2009, 09:24 PM   #1547
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I thought we had the converted wolf there. Those of us who voted him don't look very good now. Right now, I really don't know where to go with my next vote, but Lerriques early switch did catch my attention. I may go there with my next vote.

Then you'll be killing another villager...I gave my reasons for the switch - I believed USFL's tone had changed towards me and that it was really suspicious - more suspicious than Abe right now. But why not go back at Abe or go after Barkeep?

Barkeep hasn't even really made the discussion and has been very quiet for the most part. I'd be more inclined to start there myself.
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Old 04-13-2009, 09:26 PM   #1548
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I wasn't dead yet when I started the post...good luck villagers...
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Old 04-13-2009, 09:29 PM   #1549
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Old 04-13-2009, 09:30 PM   #1550
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Danny let's re visit the vote thinfg, with the new info. lerriqus seems like an odd choice. Was he killedto help shield someone who voted with him on one or more days?
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