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Old 06-14-2012, 11:07 AM   #1
Lathum
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The FOFC Keeper League 2012

All On Black- Available
Arian Foster RB HOU
Mark Ingram RB NO
Kevin Smith RB DET
Beanie Wells RB ARI
Antonio Brown WR PIT
Plaxico Burress WR NYJ
Andre Johnson WR HOU
Mario Manningham WR SF
Denarius Moore WR OAK
Carson Palmer QB OAK
Matt Schaub QB HOU
Rob Gronkowski TE NE
David Akers K SF
Detroit Lions TM DET


Gridiron Warriors-PackerFanatic

Frank Gore RB SF
Fred Jackson RB BUF
James Starks RB GB
Daniel Thomas RB MIA
Vincent Brown WR SD
Eric Decker WR DEN
Malcom Floyd WR SD
Jabar Gaffney WR NE
Greg Jennings WR GB
Aaron Rodgers QB GB
Alex Smith QB SF
Jermichael Finley TE GB
Matt Prater K DEN
Chicago Bears TM CHI

The FOFC All Stars- SamiFan24
Donald Brown RB IND
Jamaal Charles RB KC
Darren McFadden RB OAK
DeMarco Murray RB DAL
Pierre Garcon WR WAS
Lance Moore WR NO
Roddy White WR ATL
Joe Flacco QB BAL
Philip Rivers QB SD
Owen Daniels TE HOU
Brandon Pettigrew TE DET
Stephen Gostkowski K NE
San Francisco 49ers TM SF
Baltimore Ravens TM BAL

Callous Doughboys-JAG
Michael Bush RB CHI
Ryan Mathews RB SD
Ray Rice RB BAL
Ben Tate RB HOU
Dez Bryant WR DAL
A. J. Green WR CIN
Calvin Johnson WR DET
Laurent Robinson WR JAC
Matthew Stafford QB DET
Tim Tebow QB NYJ
Aaron Hernandez TE NE
John Kasay K NO
New England Patriots TM NE
Seattle Seahawks TM SEA

Vicks Heros- Available

Matt Forte RB CHI
Steven Jackson RB STL
Darren Sproles RB NO
DeAngelo Williams RB CAR
Miles Austin WR DAL
Steve Breaston WR KC
Stevie Johnson WR BUF
Santana Moss WR WAS
Jerome Simpson WR MIN
Wes Welker WR NE
Mike Williams WR TB
Tom Brady QB NE
Nick Novak K SD
Green Bay Packers TM

The Insomniacs- available
Delone Carter RB IND
BenJarvus Green-Ellis RB CIN
Shonn Greene RB NYJ
Pierre Thomas RB NO
Ryan Torain RB WAS
Anquan Boldin WR BAL
DeSean Jackson WR PHI
Michael Jenkins WR MIN
Steve Smith WR CAR
Nate Washington WR TEN
Eli Manning QB NYG
Fred Davis TE WAS
Matt Bryant K ATL
Cincinnati Bengals TM CIN

Sals Transgenders- Saldana
Ahmad Bradshaw RB NYG
Reggie Bush RB MIA
Michael Crabtree WR SF
Percy Harvin WR MIN
Vincent Jackson WR TB
James Jones WR GB
Reggie Wayne WR IND
Jake Locker QB TEN
Peyton Manning QB DEN
Colt McCoy QB CLE
Vernon Davis TE SF
Robbie Gould K CHI
New York Jets TM NYJ
Tennessee Titans TM TEN

Houston Hippopotami- SterlingiceJahvid Best RB DET
Kendall Hunter RB SF
Felix Jones RB DAL
Marshawn Lynch RB SEA
LeSean McCoy RB PHI
Marques Colston WR NO
Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI
Brandon Marshall WR CHI
Demaryius Thomas WR DEN
Damian Williams WR TEN
Drew Brees QB NO
Mark Sanchez QB NYJ
Mason Crosby K GB
Denver Broncos TM DEN


Shakas Big Shooters- MollyMurphy
Toby Gerhart RB MIN
Adrian Peterson RB MIN
C. J. Spiller RB BUF
Jonathan Stewart RB CAR
Michael Turner RB ATL
Dwayne Bowe WR KC
Kenny Britt WR TEN
Nate Burleson WR DET
Riley Cooper WR PHI
Julio Jones WR ATL
Matt Hasselbeck QB TEN
Michael Vick QB PHI
Alex Henery K PHI
Atlanta Falcons TM ATL

Southside Roughnecks- available
Marion Barber RB CHI
Cedric Benson RB CIN
Ryan Grant RB GB
Mike Tolbert RB CAR
Doug Baldwin WR SEA
Austin Collie WR IND
Early Doucet WR ARI
Devery Henderson WR NO
Jeremy Maclin WR PHI
Torrey Smith WR BAL
Cam Newton QB CAR
Ben Roethlisberger QB PIT
Sebastian Janikowski K OAK
Philadelphia Eagles TM PHI

Touchdown MAfia- Spleen
Roy Helu RB WAS
Maurice Jones-Drew RB JAC
Willis McGahee RB DEN
Rashard Mendenhall RB PIT
Victor Cruz WR NYG
Brandon Lloyd WR NE
Jordy Nelson WR GB
Ryan Fitzpatrick QB BUF
Matt Ryan QB ATL
Antonio Gates TE SD
Jimmy Graham TE NO
Dan Bailey K DAL
Dallas Cowboys TM DAL
Houston Texans TM HOU

Lathums Brew Crew- Lathum
LeGarrette Blount RB TB
Brandon Jacobs RB SF
Chris Johnson RB TEN
Deion Branch WR NE
Hakeem Nicks WR NYG
Mike Wallace WR PIT
Jay Cutler QB CHI
Andy Dalton QB CIN
Tony Romo QB DAL
Tony Gonzalez TE ATL
Jason Hanson K DET
Neil Rackers K WAS
Oakland Raiders TM OAK
Pittsburgh Steelers TM PIT


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Old 06-14-2012, 11:15 AM   #2
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Again, Callous Dowboys will be back.

Also, because I had to dig for this info, here are the off-season trading rules we agreed to last season:


Off-Season Trade Rules
-Trades involving your current roster will be allowed as soon as the Championship game has been completed and until keepers are announced for the next season. The keeper announcement signifies the start of a new season.
-Players may be traded for players, draft picks, or players and picks.
-Any player received in a trade automatically becomes a keeper at their position for their new team.
-When becoming one of the teams keepers, the player will have one year of service counted against the limit.
-If a player is "unkeepable" (meaning he has already been kept 3 times by the same team), he is not allowed to be traded in the offseason.
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:46 AM   #3
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me and my uber-craptastic team will be back
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:27 PM   #4
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I'm coming back.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:34 PM   #5
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Ok, Lets see who is returning as first order of business

I am in. Spleen, Jag, and Packerfanatic are also back based on their post in the 2011 thread.

I am assuming Johnny is still out. My wife was next in line for a team so unless anyone has issues with her being an owner she is in for his team.

Returning

1. Lathum- Lathums Brew Crew
2. Packerfanatic-Gridiron Warriors
3. Spleen- Touchdown Mafia
4. MollyMurphy ( pending approval)- Shakas Big Shooters
5. JAG- Callous Doughboys
6. Saldana-Sals Trangenders
7. samifan- The FOFC All Stars
8. Sterlingice-Houston Hippopotimi

Not returning-

CubBoyRoy
Eaglefan27
TLK
MikeVic


Alternates
1. CarmenBulldog
2. Danny
3. NTN Deacon
4. Grover

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Old 06-14-2012, 12:41 PM   #6
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I don't know how long the alternate list is, but go ahead and put me on it for whenever there are enough openings.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:45 PM   #7
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I'm back
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:57 PM   #8
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Definitely back - and I will come up with a different, probably just-as-craptastic, team name
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:04 PM   #9
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Definitely back - and I will come up with a different, probably just-as-craptastic, team name

i am thinking of going with "Sal's Supershittyworstbunchoffantasyplayersever"
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:22 PM   #10
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updated through Samifan with NTN deacon as an alternate
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:46 AM   #11
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bump for those we havrnt heard from.

I'll pm them soon if we dont hear from them
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:37 PM   #12
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:38 PM   #13
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im down

are you saying you want to be an alternate?
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:39 AM   #14
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Sorry, guys- still caught up in the whole moving thing so I haven't been back to FOFC for a bit. I'll be back.

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Old 06-21-2012, 03:57 PM   #15
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Sorry, guys- still caught up in the whole moving thing so I haven't been back to FOFC for a bit. I'll be back.

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figured as much, hope the move went well
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:35 PM   #16
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Yes, it turns out living in the same city as one's wife is a good thing

(I'm sure that will illicit no jokes)

Oh, and did I mention: weddings in Chicago and Omaha the next two weekends so no time to relax even, really.

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Old 06-21-2012, 10:10 PM   #17
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Yes, it turns out living in the same city as one's wife is a good thing

(I'm sure that will illicit no jokes)

Oh, and did I mention: weddings in Chicago and Omaha the next two weekends so no time to relax even, really.

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Old 06-30-2012, 01:20 AM   #18
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Sorry guys but I will not be back this year.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:30 AM   #19
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Sorry guys but I will not be back this year.

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Old 06-30-2012, 01:31 AM   #20
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I'll be leaving for a cruise tomorrow and when I get back we'll start nailing down replacement teams and the off season schedule unless TLK is coming back and wants to set it up sometime this week
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:51 AM   #21
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I know it is not all that much time but last year I really didn't stay active and work is twice as busy this year. I would rather have someone who is going to put in the time get a chance.
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:42 PM   #22
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OK, quick update. MikeVic and TLK are also out I am sad to report. We do have other people interested so no issues with filling the league. I am waiting to here back from EF27. Once we have owners in place we can start the offseason.
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:52 PM   #23
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Throw me on the waiting list, Lathum!
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:03 AM   #24
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I replied to your pm but I am interested in joining still
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:58 AM   #25
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Wow- we're turning over like half the league

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Old 07-12-2012, 07:58 AM   #26
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Yeah, this is the most turnover I can recall for the league. We're going to need to get a post together with league rules for the benefit of the incoming teams and a post with current rosters too. This week is really bad for me at work (same with the first part of next week), but I'll try and help out with that if needed.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:46 AM   #27
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I'm gonna do what I can.

EF27 also PMed me that he doesn't have time anymore. Bummed to see him go as well but I'm confident we will have active new owners. I really like this league and want to keep it together.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:56 AM   #28
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Thanks for having me in your league, it was fun! I'm just burnt out on fantasy sports in general so I'm dropping out of multiple leagues.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:02 AM   #29
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I'm gonna do what I can.

EF27 also PMed me that he doesn't have time anymore. Bummed to see him go as well but I'm confident we will have active new owners. I really like this league and want to keep it together.

Ditto about keeping the league together. Last year was my first full season in the league. I think the competition level is pretty high. I would hate to lose a fun league like this.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:18 AM   #30
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I see how it is- I finally win and no one wants to stick around in a league that's so easy that even I can win it

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Old 07-12-2012, 03:20 PM   #31
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OK- We have 4 spots to fill with 4 people showing interest. I am going to try and post rosters later tonight if I can.

I think the fair way to let people pick a team is in the order they showed interest once they confirm they are coming back. I am not counting molymurphy in this since it had already been determined she was in and what team she would have.

I am also going to post rules in the first post along with rosters and a schedule for the offseason.
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:34 PM   #32
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I would like to propose a "keepers" tax. Anyone who was here last season gets a player from someone who is going to be here this season

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Old 07-12-2012, 03:43 PM   #33
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ok, Grover and Danny are confirmend in.

Rosters from last year are up with owners/ available
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:45 PM   #34
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Somewhere (previous thread?), we marked down all the players who could not be kept because of the 3rd year keeper provision, I believe.

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Old 07-12-2012, 03:49 PM   #35
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Keeper Rules


Keeper Rules:
-The amount of years a player can be a keeper is limited to three.
-If a player is picked as a "rookie keeper", it's counts as the first year of his three.
-This number is reset if a player is moved in a trade.



Rule for offseason trades as adopted last year

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Off-Season Trade Rules
-Trades involving your current roster will be allowed as soon as the Championship game has been completed and until keepers are announced for the next season. The keeper announcement signifies the start of a new season.
-Players may be traded for players, draft picks, or players and picks.
-Any player received in a trade automatically becomes a keeper at their position for their new team.
-When becoming one of the teams keepers, the player will have one year of service counted against the limit.
-If a player is "unkeepable" (meaning he has already been kept 3 times by the same team), he is not allowed to be traded in the offseason.
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:51 PM   #36
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Somewhere (previous thread?), we marked down all the players who could not be kept because of the 3rd year keeper provision, I believe.

SI

I don't have time right now but I am going to try and put something up tonight showing who has been previously kept and for how long. If someone else has time and wants to do it that is cool, just let me know so we don't do twice the work.

Also, once all teams are filled I'll post a schedule for off season activities. It will likely be the same exact as last years, worked out well, so think of any rules changes you may want to vote on.
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:28 PM   #37
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Here's the info from last year Lathum. I don't have time to look at everything, but based on the rules we came up with last year, the people marked by (3) years kept, if they're on the same roster as last year, are not eligible to be kept or traded prior to declaring keepers (aka, they're free agents):


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Old 07-12-2012, 05:24 PM   #38
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ok, I have confirmation from Grover, Danny, and NTN that they are in.

I wrote CarmanBulldog a while back and didn't hear from him. Going to give him a day or so and if I don't hear back fill that slot with someone else.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:43 PM   #39
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Thanks for finding that JAG.

I know there were a few trades so that list will likely need to be revised
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:29 PM   #40
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Going off memory, Brees/Brady and Calvin Johnson/Andre Johnson swapped teams, and you acquired Chris Johnson for a non-keeper, so all those players would have a full year towards their three year limit if kept (as I understand what we agreed to last season, meaning if kept this year they would be listed as (2) when the list of this year's keepers comes out). I think those were the only players who were kept last season that changed hands via trade (not sure if any were dropped / added by someone else).
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:54 PM   #41
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I'd love to take a spot if there is one available.
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:28 PM   #42
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I'd love to take a spot if there is one available.

If I don't hear from Carman by tomorrow you are in
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:41 PM   #43
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OK, so regarding players you want to keep and their years of service I am going to leave each owner responsible from checking the above list to see eligibility.

I bring this up now because I want to make sure all the new owners understand how much time they will have a guy for when choosing a team. I also think it is only fair that you can change your protected list prior to the deadline in case there is some misunderstanding.

Reminder, you may keep one each of RB, QB, and WR and only one of each. you may also keep a rookie from last year for a total of 4 players.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:19 PM   #44
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Trades from last season.

8 Months Week 10 2011 Touchdown Mafia Traded For 2012 6th round pick from The FOFC All-Stars
8 Months Week 10 2011 The FOFC All-Stars Traded For Roy Helu RB WAS from Touchdown Mafia
9 Months Week 7 2011 Sal's Transgenders Traded For 2012 3rd round pick from Lathums Brew Crew
9 Months Week 7 2011 Lathums Brew Crew Traded For Chris Johnson RB TEN from Sal's Transgenders
9 Months Week 7 2011 Sal's Transgenders Traded For Vincent Jackson WR TB from Lathums Brew Crew
9 Months Week 5 2011 Houston Hippopotami Traded For LeSean McCoy RB PHI from Touchdown Mafia
9 Months Week 5 2011 Touchdown Mafia Traded For Maurice Jones-Drew RB JAC from Houston Hippopotami
9 Months Week 5 2011 Touchdown Mafia Traded For Willis McGahee RB DEN from Houston Hippopotami
9 Months Week 5 2011 Callous Dowboys Traded For Calvin Johnson WR DET from All On Black
9 Months Week 5 2011 All On Black Traded For Andre Johnson WR HOU from Callous Dowboys
9 Months Week 5 2011 Houston Hippopotami Traded For Drew Brees QB NO from Vic's Heroes
9 Months Week 5 2011 Vic's Heroes Traded For Tom Brady QB NE from Houston Hippopotami
11 Months Preseason 2011 Lathums Brew Crew Traded For 2011 1st round pick from South Side Roughnecks
11 Months Preseason 2011 South Side Roughnecks Traded For 2011 2nd round pick from Lathums Brew Crew
11 Months Preseason 2011 South Side Roughnecks Traded For Ben Roethlisberger QB PIT from Lathums Brew Crew
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:19 PM   #45
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If another comes open I'd like in as well.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:31 PM   #46
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Are we allowed to rename our team once we take over?
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:39 PM   #47
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Are we allowed to rename our team once we take over?

I insist!
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:40 PM   #48
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I insist!

Fantastic.

Will be my first keeper league. Really looking forward to it.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:44 PM   #49
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Fantastic.

Will be my first keeper league. Really looking forward to it.

Its been a really great league. I am shocked at all the attrition this year. I think we lost more people this year then the previous eight combined
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:48 PM   #50
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Good work spleen, forgot about the Jones-Drew trade.

EDIT, so he and McCoy were keepers that were traded, so they fall under the same category as the other 5 I mentioned earlier.

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