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Old 08-05-2020, 01:20 PM   #1
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Werewolf Xtreme III --- Game Over (Result in Post 434)

Hi all,

Since there isn't a game currently running, I thought I'd offer to run one, with a format that has produced some creative gameplay in the past. Essentially it is a basic small game format with the exception that roles are not revealed upon death, other than to the priest who can scan a dead player to learn their role.

Game 1 in that format: Werewolf CXVIIIb XTreme - WOLVES WIN - Front Office Football Central

Game 2 in that format: Small game - Return of Werewolf Xtreme (Game over! Result in Post 401) - Front Office Football Central


Good Roles:

Seer - Each night receives a vision of a target player as 'wolf' or 'not wolf.' The seer receives a vision on Night 0 of one randomly chosen player that is 'not wolf.' Thereafter, the seer chooses which player to view.

Priest - Each night receives a vision of a target deceased player. The vision tells the priest that deceased player's exact role. The priest must choose one deceased player to view.

Hunter - If only two players remain in the game and the hunter is one of those players, then the good team wins even if the other player is a werewolf.

3 Villagers - Ordinary villagers with no special powers.


Evil Roles:

2 Werewolves - The werewolves know each other's identity, and may private message/chat without restriction. Each night the wolves choose one target player to kill.

Sorcerer - Each night receives a vision of a target player as 'seer' or 'not seer.' The sorcerer receives a vision on Night 0 of one randomly chosen player that is 'not seer.' Thereafter, the sorcerer chooses which player to view. The sorcerer wins if the wolves win, but counts as a villager for victory purposes. The Sorcerer does not know the wolves and the wolves do not know the Sorcerer.


Victory Conditions:

Good - All good players win if all werewolves are eliminated, or if the last two players remaining are the hunter and one werewolf. The sorcerer does not have to be eliminated in order for Good to win.

Evil - All evil players win if the wolves achieve parity: if at any time the number of wolves remaining equals the number of non-wolves remaining (including the sorcerer), evil wins. However, if one wolf is left with the hunter, then good wins. The sorcerer counts as a 'non-wolf' for these purposes.


DEADLINES

10 pm EST - Voting deadline. Any votes marked 10:01 or later will not count.

10:30 pm EST - Dawn deadline. Any night actions must be submitted by 10:30.

THE BASICS

Editing: Yes, you can edit posts, with two stipulations:
a. Please only edit posts within 5 minutes of the original post time for formatting / spelling / grammar.
b. You cannot edit a post with a vote in it.

No quoting of private messages.

No discussion of the game outside the thread. (out of game players or dead players are free to speculate in the speculation forum: General WW discussion)

Any player inactive for 36 hours will be replaced.

VOTING

Every day the village votes for who they wish to lynch. The player who receives the most votes by day's end will be killed.

In order to vote, please post your vote in bold and on a separate line.

You may change your vote at any time before the deadline by posting an unvote and then a new vote, both in bold.

Example:
Lathum is a wolf.

VOTE Lathum

Wait, I mean hoopsguy is a wolf.

UNVOTE
VOTE hoopsguy



Special Voting Rules:

You may not self-vote or vote No Lynch.

Tie votes will be resolved by whichever candidate has the longest held vote on them.

Nightfall:
Players may choose to make a Nightfall vote to lock in their vote and end the day early. Nightfall votes must be unanimous and will still be dependent on my availability. Once you vote with Nightfall, your vote is locked and cannot be changed.

REVEAL

Roles will not be revealed upon lynch or upon night kill. Only the Priest will have knowledge about the allegiance or role of any of the dead.

Sign Ups

1. timmae
2. RendeR
3. CrimsonFox
4. Telle
5. Autumn - Night killed Day 1
6. britrock88 - Lynched Day 1
7. mauchow / EagleFan - Night killed Day 2
8. The Jackal
9. Coffee Warlord - Lynched Day 2

Alternates:
1.
2.


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Old 08-05-2020, 04:11 PM   #2
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Old 08-05-2020, 09:26 PM   #3
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I'm game! I'll inform the family
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Old 08-05-2020, 10:02 PM   #4
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Old 08-05-2020, 10:25 PM   #5
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I'm in.
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Old 08-06-2020, 10:39 AM   #6
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Looks great. I ran that first game, and I hardly remember it!

Count me in.
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Old 08-06-2020, 04:27 PM   #7
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Old 08-07-2020, 09:00 AM   #8
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In. Thanks for the message JAG
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Old 08-07-2020, 09:12 AM   #9
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Thanks for joining all.

I've reached out to some other folks to see if we can fill the last couple spots. If that happens before Monday, I will send out roles Sunday evening with a Day 1 deadline of Monday August 10th 10pm EST.

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Old 08-07-2020, 09:51 AM   #10
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Oh hello, thanks for the ping JAG -- I'll give it a go!
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Old 08-07-2020, 10:20 AM   #11
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Weekend schedule?
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Old 08-07-2020, 10:54 AM   #12
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Weekend schedule?

No weekend schedule planned. Current plan is for the game to start on Monday, ending by Thursday at the latest.
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Old 08-07-2020, 11:07 AM   #13
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FUCK IT. I'M BACK BOYS.
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Old 08-07-2020, 11:36 AM   #14
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That's the spirit! Alright, we are full, anyone else who is interested can be added to the alternates list in case we need a replacement and we'll get this going Sunday evening.
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Old 08-07-2020, 12:35 PM   #15
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vote coffee warlord!!

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Old 08-07-2020, 06:35 PM   #16
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I'll add my name to the replacement list.
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Old 08-07-2020, 06:36 PM   #17
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vote Telle

Just warming up in case I'm needed...

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Old 08-07-2020, 08:30 PM   #18
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This is a great group of players, glad to see you all again!
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Old 08-08-2020, 09:27 PM   #19
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vote Telle

Just warming up in case I'm needed...


Awe, aren't you sweet
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Old 08-09-2020, 06:33 PM   #20
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Roles have gone out. Day 1 has started, with the deadline at Monday at 10pm EST. Villagers without a role received the following message:

Quote:
You are a simple villager.

Please remember, roles are not revealed upon death. If you are lynched or night killed, please do not post in the thread. I tried to highlight other rules that may be less familiar in the first post with underlines or bold.

For those that have them, I can accept night orders at any time through the Monday 10:30pm EST Night 1 deadline, I will run the latest night order I receive from you.

Good luck everyone, have a great game!
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Old 08-09-2020, 06:45 PM   #21
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Checking in. Whee!
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Old 08-09-2020, 06:50 PM   #22
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Last time I played WW I was in Central time. Gotta remember it's 2 hours now.

MURDER DEATH KIL...I mean, innocence and happiness!
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Old 08-09-2020, 07:25 PM   #23
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Game on! This should be fun!!
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Old 08-09-2020, 08:44 PM   #24
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Dangit, I'm not ready for this game to start! I'm not done making my database that'll replace my spreadsheets yet
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Old 08-09-2020, 08:56 PM   #25
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Vote Telle

Someone always has to break the ice. And I have a VERY good reason this time! I don't trust people with spreadsheets. They are the tools of Lucifer. And probably wolves too. But definitely Satan.
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Old 08-09-2020, 09:13 PM   #26
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Vote Telle

Someone always has to break the ice. And I have a VERY good reason this time! I don't trust people with spreadsheets. They are the tools of Lucifer. And probably wolves too. But definitely Satan.

But I'm replacing the spreadsheets! With a database! Databases are WAY cooler
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Old 08-09-2020, 09:37 PM   #27
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And when you have a database, I'll unvote you!

Do you HAVE a database now?
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Old 08-09-2020, 09:41 PM   #28
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I have database with tables for games, players, players in games, and votes in games. I plan to add roles, actions other than votes (not applicable to every game), and notes but what I have now is functional.

I can query the tables easily enough through straight SQL, but building the web interface is taking some time. I want it to spit out reports that will replace all the copy-paste I used to do from the spreadsheets.
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Old 08-09-2020, 10:03 PM   #29
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Ok, I need a second row of vote data to test with, soooo.....

VOTE Coffee Warlord
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Old 08-09-2020, 10:04 PM   #30
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Yes folks, you read it hear first. My wife is a computer dork......
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Old 08-09-2020, 10:04 PM   #31
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I prefer the term "data geek", thank you very much.
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Old 08-09-2020, 10:07 PM   #32
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Semantics.

pot, kettle.....

Lipstick on a pig.....err....maybe thats not the best analogy....
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Old 08-09-2020, 10:08 PM   #33
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*grabs his blanket and prepares the couch....*
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Old 08-09-2020, 10:22 PM   #34
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Old 08-09-2020, 10:22 PM   #35
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vote telle

Whoops.
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Old 08-10-2020, 12:43 AM   #37
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so...how do I do this?

vote telle

am i doing this right?
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Old 08-10-2020, 12:47 AM   #38
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vote render

he needs the player experience
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Old 08-10-2020, 06:36 AM   #39
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Monday has arrived! Who is evil?!

Our max mis-lynches are 2 I think. Hoping with this player set everyone is going to be active and involved. It should make for a better village effort methinks.
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Old 08-10-2020, 07:13 AM   #40
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Voting as of post 39:

3 Telle - Coffee Warlord (25), timmae (35), CrimsonFox (37)
1 Coffee Warlord - Telle (29)

CF - Vote for RendeR in post 38 was not valid as there was no line for an unvote, therefore the Telle vote stands.

As a reminder, you don't have to format it as Unvote [player], just a line for 'Unvote' will remove your prior vote.
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Old 08-10-2020, 10:07 AM   #41
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Welcome all. I will join the fun by voting for a former rival who hasn't shown up yet, just to be sure he comes in hot.

vote The Jackal
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Old 08-10-2020, 10:08 AM   #42
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This is definitely a tricky rule set for villagers. I skimmed back through the first game we played with this and the wolves won partly by going after each other early. So note to selves: don't give anyone too much credit for anything.
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Old 08-10-2020, 10:13 AM   #43
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The only credit I'll give is for unrest in the Telle/Render household this week! Ha!! Wait, unless they are both wolves. How fun would that be!

Yep, there can be a little extra cover with this group and ruleset. There are a few N0 peeks so we do have some info already which hopefully will become unearthed much later in the game.
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Old 08-10-2020, 10:19 AM   #44
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Sure it's 2 failed votes and not 3?

7 - 2 start (the sorcerer counts as a villager for counting purposes).

Two villagers die day/night 1: 5 - 2
Two villagers die day/night 2: 3 - 2

Third botched vote would end it, unless I'm not thinking clearly.
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Welcome all. I will join the fun by voting for a former rival who hasn't shown up yet, just to be sure he comes in hot.

vote The Jackal



re-acquainting myself with the smilies FOFC offers and there's no fireball, unfortunate
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Old 08-10-2020, 11:19 AM   #46
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This is definitely a tricky rule set for villagers. I skimmed back through the first game we played with this and the wolves won partly by going after each other early. So note to selves: don't give anyone too much credit for anything.

I feel like there was another version we played where the seer nailed wolves with their first two scans and dominated it, though I've played so many rule sets I could be mis-remembering
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Old 08-10-2020, 11:25 AM   #47
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Sure it's 2 failed votes and not 3?

7 - 2 start (the sorcerer counts as a villager for counting purposes).

Two villagers die day/night 1: 5 - 2
Two villagers die day/night 2: 3 - 2

Third botched vote would end it, unless I'm not thinking clearly.

Yeah, I think 3rd mis lynch could be end game. Just something to remember and track I guess.
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Old 08-10-2020, 11:31 AM   #48
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so we're at 3-1-1 or 2-1-1-1 if CF meant to unvote?

vote RendeR
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Old 08-10-2020, 11:44 AM   #49
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Just saying this now... if you are inactive then I will likely vote for you. Unless there is definite evil to vote on instead. Inactives bit me at the murder hotel and not gonna let that happen again.
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Just saying this now... if you are inactive then I will likely vote for you. Unless there is definite evil to vote on instead. Inactives bit me at the murder hotel and not gonna let that happen again.

mau is the only one not to "check in", yes? Although we obviously want to see more from people than just checking in
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