Official College Football Week 15 thread - Page 5

mauchow · 12-08-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Iowa v. LSU in the Outback. Okie State v. Mizzou in the Cotton. Not happy with Texas drawing Oregon in the Alamo Bowl. That is a bit of a mismatch.

I think Oregon continues to stay uninterested and the game may be okay.

cartman · 12-08-2013, 08:08 PM

I wouldn't want to be someone having to sell tickets for the Texas Bowl at Reliant Stadium in Houston. Syracuse v. Minnesota. That might end up being one of the smallest crowds of all the bowls.

Lathum · 12-08-2013, 08:14 PM

I think the Zeros got exactly what they deserved after those punks ran their mouths about not wanting a Rosé Bowl.

cartman · 12-08-2013, 08:22 PM

It is clear that the Sugar Bowl picked OU so that Saban could do some advanced scouting before playing against them again next year at the Red River Shootout...................

JonInMiddleGA · 12-08-2013, 08:31 PM

At first glance I like the Oklahoma State-Mizzou matchup pretty good, Wisconsin-South Carolina, and if Manziel hasn't gotten healthy (or whatever) then Duke might just finish their season with a victory.

cartman · 12-08-2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

At first glance I like the Oklahoma State-Mizzou matchup pretty good, Wisconsin-South Carolina, and if Manziel hasn't gotten healthy (or whatever) then Duke might just finish their season with a victory.

I'd bet on the 'whatever' portion. He turned 21 a couple of days ago.

MrBug708 · 12-08-2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I think the Zeros got exactly what they deserved after those punks ran their mouths about not wanting a Rosé Bowl.

It didnt go quite like that, but I understand the take

Matthean · 12-08-2013, 09:40 PM

'Bama should do well if they can remain interested. Tough to read the KSU/Michigan matchup. If nothing else, Michigan's OL has even more time to gel. I think both teams will benefit from having more playing time. There's some other nice matchups in a number of other games.

MizzouRah · 12-08-2013, 10:18 PM

I like Ok St vs Mizzou too.. should be a good one.

jbergey22 · 12-08-2013, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

I wouldn't want to be someone having to sell tickets for the Texas Bowl at Reliant Stadium in Houston. Syracuse v. Minnesota. That might end up being one of the smallest crowds of all the bowls.

Yeah this one is an issue. The Gophers usually travel well but were at the same bowl last year and these teams have played each other often recently.

Maybe Syracuse can surprise and bring in a nice crowd.

jbergey22 · 12-08-2013, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I think the Zeros got exactly what they deserved after those punks ran their mouths about not wanting a Rosé Bowl.

Well, they probably had goals of the National Championship so at the point the comments were made the Rose Bowl would have been a disappointment.

SackAttack · 12-08-2013, 11:40 PM

I feel like I've seen this movie before. Somebody remind me.

Have the Tigers lost a conference championship game before and been sent to the Cotton Bowl while a team that couldn't win their division gets the league's second BCS berth?

It's like an itch I can't scratch. This is a thing that's happened before, right?

Go jump out a window, BCS. Hit every branch on the way down.

Butter · 12-09-2013, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

I must've missed the point of this pic?

CU Tiger · 12-09-2013, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mauchow

Wisconsin vs South Carolina. I'm pumped for it!

Wisky should run for 400 yards against SC

Butter · 12-09-2013, 07:06 AM

The Orange Bowl committee clearly has no concern for my marriage... as a lifelong Ohio State fan who was a first-time Clemson season ticket holder this season (mainly due to my Clemson-alum wife), January 3rd is probably not going to go real well in the Butter household.

gstelmack · 12-09-2013, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

I must've missed the point of this pic?

I think it's the Columbus, OH paper, and they barely mention Ohio State's loss in the upper-right corner. The big story is a high school football game.

Logan · 12-09-2013, 07:13 AM

Credit where it's due...congrats to Mizzou on an impressive season. Gotta find ways to get the ball in DGB's hands more often next year.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-09-2013, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

I think it's the Columbus, OH paper, and they barely mention Ohio State's loss in the upper-right corner. The big story is a high school football game.

Umm ... the upper right story is Ohio State basketball, not football.

edit to add: That's likely an early edition printed before the football game even ended.

Butter · 12-09-2013, 07:35 AM

It was past press time when the game ended. Unless you are an idiot about how physical media works, I don't see why that's even a thing. Most cities have even earlier press times for Sunday papers because of how involved they are, which often leaves late-breaking Saturday night news out of the Sunday morning paper.

panerd · 12-09-2013, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

It was past press time when the game ended. Unless you are an idiot about how physical media works, I don't see why that's even a thing. Most cities have even earlier press times for Sunday papers because of how involved they are, which often leaves late-breaking Saturday night news out of the Sunday morning paper.

It doesn't even go that deep, it is just an internet selective picture to try and make Ohio State look bad. I think that was the front page of the sports page and this is the front page of the paper.

Butter · 12-09-2013, 08:54 AM

You can't make them look worse than they looked on the field Saturday night.

That said, I'll take 12 wins and an Orange Bowl over 7 wins and some fucking restaurant bowl every night of the week and twice on Sunday.

panerd · 12-09-2013, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

I feel like I've seen this movie before. Somebody remind me.

Have the Tigers lost a conference championship game before and been sent to the Cotton Bowl while a team that couldn't win their division gets the league's second BCS berth?

It's like an itch I can't scratch. This is a thing that's happened before, right?

Go jump out a window, BCS. Hit every branch on the way down.

Agree on Mizzou often getting screwed in the bowl process and getting lesser bowls than their season dictate. (Besides the two you mention the 8-4 Tigers were also passed over for a 6-6 Iowa State team a few years back and sent to the Texas bowl) Don't agree on the cause though. It isn't the BCS, it isn't the Big 12 or the SEC... it's because Mizzou doesn't travel well to bowl games and the purpose of a bowl game is to make money for the sponsor/venue/city. I have been to a few bowls and our crowds are always pretty sorry. You could argue the chicken/egg that we won't travel well when we get crappy bowls but the simple fact is the South Carolina, LSU, A&M, Bama, Tennessee... are all going to travel a lot better than Mizzou.

Matthean · 12-09-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

You can't make them look worse than they looked on the field Saturday night.

That said, I'll take 12 wins and an Orange Bowl over 7 wins and some fucking restaurant bowl every night of the week and twice on Sunday.

Lighten up Francis. Also, I got the image from a friend who lives in Columbus and pointed out the lack of coverage on the sports page.

Matthean · 12-09-2013, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by panerd

Agree on Mizzou often getting screwed in the bowl process and getting lesser bowls than their season dictate. (Besides the two you mention the 8-4 Tigers were also passed over for a 6-6 Iowa State team a few years back and sent to the Texas bowl) Don't agree on the cause though. It isn't the BCS, it isn't the Big 12 or the SEC... it's because Mizzou doesn't travel well to bowl games and the purpose of a bowl game is to make money for the sponsor/venue/city. I have been to a few bowls and our crowds are always pretty sorry. You could argue the chicken/egg that we won't travel well when we get crappy bowls but the simple fact is the South Carolina, LSU, A&M, Bama, Tennessee... are all going to travel a lot better than Mizzou.

Also see Michigan State. MSU practically has to force a bowl to take them.

mauchow · 12-09-2013, 05:20 PM

Wow.. Wisconsin 1.5 pt favorite against South Carolina in cap one bowl.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-09-2013, 05:43 PM

Heisman Trophy finalists -- Jordan Lynch, Johnny Manziel, Tre Mason, AJ McCarron, Andre Williams, Jameis Winston - ESPN

cartman · 12-09-2013, 05:46 PM

I wonder who was on Manziel's ballot.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-09-2013, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

I wonder who was on Manziel's ballot.

Don't be silly. He voted for himself ... repeatedly

CU Tiger · 12-09-2013, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mauchow

Wow.. Wisconsin 1.5 pt favorite against South Carolina in cap one bowl.

Thats not a Wow to me.
Seriously...Wisky by 21+...

Clemson ran for over 200 yards on SC and has no run game.

Plus no Clowney in the bowl game.

Swaggs · 12-09-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Heisman Trophy finalists -- Jordan Lynch, Johnny Manziel, Tre Mason, AJ McCarron, Andre Williams, Jameis Winston - ESPN

Anyone else impressed that Andrew Williams managed to have over 300 carries for 2100 yards and did not catch a single pass all season?

mauchow · 12-09-2013, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Thats not a Wow to me.
Seriously...Wisky by 21+...

Clemson ran for over 200 yards on SC and has no run game.

Plus no Clowney in the bowl game.

Because of his going 110 mph speeding ticket?

Matthean · 12-09-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mauchow

Because of his going 110 mph speeding ticket?

Somebody should tell me he doesn't get to play in the NFL any faster that way.

MrBug708 · 12-09-2013, 09:20 PM

lol@Tre Mason getting invited.

Atocep · 12-09-2013, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Anyone else impressed that Andrew Williams managed to have over 300 carries for 2100 yards and did not catch a single pass all season?

I was also impressed that somehow Seastrunk failed to catch a pass this year in the Baylor offense.

CU Tiger · 12-10-2013, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Somebody should tell me he doesn't get to play in the NFL any faster that way.

Well he will be academically ineligible. He hasnt attended class all year and has lived off campus only coming to practices, and he was only an academic Sophomore coming in (in year 3)....conspiracy theorists suggest that the speeding ticket (in which he was stopped by a SC booster whos father played football for SC in the 70s) was created in order to allow him to be suspended for the bowl game without losing face. (He had already told team mates he wasnt going to risk injury and the academic thing)

Lathum · 12-10-2013, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Well he will be academically ineligible. He hasnt attended class all year and has lived off campus only coming to practices, and he was only an academic Sophomore coming in (in year 3)....conspiracy theorists suggest that the speeding ticket (in which he was stopped by a SC booster whos father played football for SC in the 70s) was created in order to allow him to be suspended for the bowl game without losing face. (He had already told team mates he wasnt going to risk injury and the academic thing)

I would stay as far away from that guy as I could. Albert Haynsworth 2.0

BillJasper · 12-10-2013, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Well he will be academically ineligible. He hasnt attended class all year and has lived off campus only coming to practices, and he was only an academic Sophomore coming in (in year 3)....conspiracy theorists suggest that the speeding ticket (in which he was stopped by a SC booster whos father played football for SC in the 70s) was created in order to allow him to be suspended for the bowl game without losing face. (He had already told team mates he wasnt going to risk injury and the academic thing)

I just don't see how an NFL team can use a high-draft pick on this guy at this point. I know he has physical tools but really seems like a "me" guy.

Butter · 12-10-2013, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Lighten up Francis. Also, I got the image from a friend who lives in Columbus and pointed out the lack of coverage on the sports page.

So, is this the football equivalent of "some of my best friends are black / gay"? Got it. I'll "lighten up".

panerd · 12-10-2013, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Thats not a Wow to me.
Seriously...Wisky by 21+...

Clemson ran for over 200 yards on SC and has no run game.

Plus no Clowney in the bowl game.

How bad is Clemson then if they lost by 14 to such a crappy team?

Young Drachma · 12-10-2013, 08:50 AM

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CU Tiger · 12-10-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by panerd

How bad is Clemson then if they lost by 14 to such a crappy team?

re read my post please.
They have a horrible run defense and Wisky has a good run game.
Clemson committed 6 turnovers, including fumbling 2 punts inside the 30, and throwing an INT in the endzone.

But they lost, no doubt about that. But that wasnt the point of my post.

Match up comparison Wisky will give SC fits.

Logan · 12-10-2013, 02:11 PM

So when should we be expecting the announcement that Clowney won't be playing in the bowl game?

CU Tiger · 12-10-2013, 02:15 PM

I would say the day before if ever.
It might be another "doesn't want to play" excuse.

BishopMVP · 12-10-2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I would stay as far away from that guy as I could. Albert Haynsworth 2.0

I know Haynesworth has that rep after signing with the Redskins, but he was pretty dominant on his initial contract. 2x All-Pro and possibly the best D-Lineman in football his last 2 years in Tennessee. I still agree with you that I'd stay away from Clowney at #2, but Haynesworth was an amazing pick at #15, and arguably the 2nd best player in his draft class (after Ed Reed, with Freeney and Peppers coming close at DL and Westbrook/Portis at RB.)

General Mike · 12-10-2013, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

I would say the day before if ever.
It might be another "doesn't want to play" excuse.

If he doesn't want to play, he should just sign with an agent now.

Young Drachma · 12-10-2013, 02:48 PM

He's not the first guy that might be tired of college bullshit and just ready to get on the with the pros. Might be a "character issues" situation but...sounds like he'd be a hell of a value if he falls. Not that I'd draft him, but not wanting to play in a bowl game isn't a good enough reason to pass on a dominant guy at a position that's hard to fill straight out of college. I can understand why as a fan of said team you'd be irritated though, I get that totally.

Young Drachma · 12-10-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Heisman Trophy finalists -- Jordan Lynch, Johnny Manziel, Tre Mason, AJ McCarron, Andre Williams, Jameis Winston - ESPN

When did they start inviting six people? Wasn't it three for the longest time?

BishopMVP · 12-10-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Young Drachma

He's not the first guy that might be tired of college bullshit and just ready to get on the with the pros. Might be a "character issues" situation but...sounds like he'd be a hell of a value if he falls. Not that I'd draft him, but not wanting to play in a bowl game isn't a good enough reason to pass on a dominant guy at a position that's hard to fill straight out of college. I can understand why as a fan of said team you'd be irritated though, I get that totally.

Plus, players from South Carolina with work ethic issues do sometimes work out

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Lathum · 12-10-2013, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

I know Haynesworth has that rep after signing with the Redskins, but he was pretty dominant on his initial contract. 2x All-Pro and possibly the best D-Lineman in football his last 2 years in Tennessee. I still agree with you that I'd stay away from Clowney at #2, but Haynesworth was an amazing pick at #15, and arguably the 2nd best player in his draft class (after Ed Reed, with Freeney and Peppers coming close at DL and Westbrook/Portis at RB.)

yeah, he was a monster with Tennesse. My comparason was more along the lines of once he got paid he stopped putting in the effort.

digamma · 12-10-2013, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Young Drachma

When did they start inviting six people? Wasn't it three for the longest time?

nah, it varies year to year based on vote count.

12-08-2013, 08:08 PM	#202
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I wouldn't want to be someone having to sell tickets for the Texas Bowl at Reliant Stadium in Houston. Syracuse v. Minnesota. That might end up being one of the smallest crowds of all the bowls. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

12-08-2013, 08:22 PM	#204
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	It is clear that the Sugar Bowl picked OU so that Saban could do some advanced scouting before playing against them again next year at the Red River Shootout................... __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

12-08-2013, 08:31 PM	#205
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	At first glance I like the Oklahoma State-Mizzou matchup pretty good, Wisconsin-South Carolina, and if Manziel hasn't gotten healthy (or whatever) then Duke might just finish their season with a victory. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

12-08-2013, 09:40 PM	#208
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	'Bama should do well if they can remain interested. Tough to read the KSU/Michigan matchup. If nothing else, Michigan's OL has even more time to gel. I think both teams will benefit from having more playing time. There's some other nice matchups in a number of other games. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

12-09-2013, 07:06 AM	#215
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	The Orange Bowl committee clearly has no concern for my marriage... as a lifelong Ohio State fan who was a first-time Clemson season ticket holder this season (mainly due to my Clemson-alum wife), January 3rd is probably not going to go real well in the Butter household. __________________ My listening habits Last edited by Butter : 12-09-2013 at 07:07 AM.

12-08-2013, 08:14 PM	#203
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I think the Zeros got exactly what they deserved after those punks ran their mouths about not wanting a Rosé Bowl.

12-08-2013, 10:18 PM	#209
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	I like Ok St vs Mizzou too.. should be a good one.

12-08-2013, 11:40 PM	#212
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	I feel like I've seen this movie before. Somebody remind me. Have the Tigers lost a conference championship game before and been sent to the Cotton Bowl while a team that couldn't win their division gets the league's second BCS berth? It's like an itch I can't scratch. This is a thing that's happened before, right? Go jump out a window, BCS. Hit every branch on the way down.

12-09-2013, 07:13 AM	#217
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Credit where it's due...congrats to Mizzou on an impressive season. Gotta find ways to get the ball in DGB's hands more often next year.

12-09-2013, 07:35 AM	#219
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	It was past press time when the game ended. Unless you are an idiot about how physical media works, I don't see why that's even a thing. Most cities have even earlier press times for Sunday papers because of how involved they are, which often leaves late-breaking Saturday night news out of the Sunday morning paper. __________________ My listening habits

12-09-2013, 08:54 AM	#221
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	You can't make them look worse than they looked on the field Saturday night. That said, I'll take 12 wins and an Orange Bowl over 7 wins and some fucking restaurant bowl every night of the week and twice on Sunday. __________________ My listening habits Last edited by Butter : 12-09-2013 at 08:54 AM.

12-09-2013, 05:20 PM	#225
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Wow.. Wisconsin 1.5 pt favorite against South Carolina in cap one bowl.

12-09-2013, 05:43 PM	#226
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Heisman Trophy finalists -- Jordan Lynch, Johnny Manziel, Tre Mason, AJ McCarron, Andre Williams, Jameis Winston - ESPN __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

12-09-2013, 05:46 PM	#227
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I wonder who was on Manziel's ballot. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

12-09-2013, 09:20 PM	#233
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	lol@Tre Mason getting invited.

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Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	A look at how 2013 first-team All-SEC players were rated as recruits \| Saturday Down South

12-10-2013, 02:11 PM	#242
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	So when should we be expecting the announcement that Clowney won't be playing in the bowl game?

12-10-2013, 02:15 PM	#243
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	I would say the day before if ever. It might be another "doesn't want to play" excuse.

12-10-2013, 02:48 PM	#246
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	He's not the first guy that might be tired of college bullshit and just ready to get on the with the pros. Might be a "character issues" situation but...sounds like he'd be a hell of a value if he falls. Not that I'd draft him, but not wanting to play in a bowl game isn't a good enough reason to pass on a dominant guy at a position that's hard to fill straight out of college. I can understand why as a fan of said team you'd be irritated though, I get that totally. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods Last edited by Young Drachma : 12-10-2013 at 02:49 PM.

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