WW CXXXIX - The Red Death II - GAME OVER, SERVANTS WIN - Page 39

dzilla77 · 10-06-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

I was wondering that too. Since we don't seem to know what anything does except for things like "Charm of Protection Against
COuld items have been passed previously to gain trust?

It certainly doesn't buy the one who sends the items, as you don't know who passes them to you. I guess it could buy the one who receives the items trust, because the one who passed it knows who he passed it to but I am not really seeing how it helps.

Commo_Soldier · 10-06-2011, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

I think someone admitting to sending dzilla his sent item would go a long ways to building some trust. Maybe not revealing today, but tomorrow

To me the better trust would be to announce it before DZ did though. Now the only way to prove will be to say the item, which would only benefit wolves since all items go to wolves once the person dies.

Chief Rum · 10-06-2011, 06:48 PM

I received an item from someone Night One, and he mentioned it in thread. It confirmed what we had both surmised in commenting on our items on Day One.

I have since tried to pass either item off, in the hopes it could be used for protection, but each time my chosen target was the wolf's choice for a kill. So my item was never passed (items are passed last in night action order).

I don't know it does much for way of trust, though. All players, wolf and villager, started with items.

MrBug708 · 10-06-2011, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dzilla77

It certainly doesn't buy the one who sends the items, as you don't know who passes them to you. I guess it could buy the one who receives the items trust, because the one who passed it knows who he passed it to but I am not really seeing how it helps.

Ah, I assumed that you could pick who you wanted to send it to

dzilla77 · 10-06-2011, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Ah, I assumed that you could pick who you wanted to send it to

The person who sends it does pick, but the person who receives it doesn't know who its from.

Commo_Soldier · 10-06-2011, 06:53 PM

The more I think about things I'm curious, why do we really believe Bugs reveal?

Day one - Jackal - I think he just said this because Jackal has been on his side and told him he should reveal now if he is the seer.

Day two - Danny - I can't see why Danny would have needed to be scanned by the seer, that is more of an exorcist thing as I don't think anyone believed he was an original wolf.

Day three - Mau - Nothing has screamed wolf to me and if converted more of an exorcist thing.

My big thing though is I think it was just a save his ass type of move, Jackal gave him the out and he took it. I'm seriously considering moving back onto him.

Unvote CF

dzilla77 · 10-06-2011, 06:54 PM

Narc is escaping scrutiny and is not participating to his usual level. I know he indicated this at the beginning of the game, but his votes have been completely throw away.

I am thinking or Narc and Chief Rum for exorcism targets tonight. Anybody else have a suggestion?

dzilla77 · 10-06-2011, 06:56 PM

Oh and just to clear confusion - corruption is different from possession, as far as I can tell.

I am ineffective against corrupted individuals. If they are possessed, I can exorcise them.

mauchow · 10-06-2011, 06:56 PM

If Bug could have - ideally it would have been one more day, to be honest. He was being pressed too much. The give-away to me that he was a roled player, or, picked up on it, was two nights in a row when he said "we might have two more people revealing roles tonight..." or something to that effect. I wasn't ready to declare him as lying or believing him just yet but I certainly never had the thought to vote him yesterday or today to be honest.

And without a counter, there is no way I would consider voting Bug.

I would, however, consider voting him any day AFTER today, thanks to conversions and stuff like that..

MrBug708 · 10-06-2011, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

The more I think about things I'm curious, why do we really believe Bugs reveal?

Day one - Jackal - I think he just said this because Jackal has been on his side and told him he should reveal now if he is the seer.

Day two - Danny - I can't see why Danny would have needed to be scanned by the seer, that is more of an exorcist thing as I don't think anyone believed he was an original wolf.

Day three - Mau - Nothing has screamed wolf to me and if converted more of an exorcist thing.

My big thing though is I think it was just a save his ass type of move, Jackal gave him the out and he took it. I'm seriously considering moving back onto him.

Unvote CF

If you go back, I've been hinting that I scanned Jackal and Danny yesterday. Had I wanted to fake scan someone, I would have been safer with someone with more pull than Jackal.

The Mauboy scan was more of a shot in the dark than anything.

I also wouldn't be surprised if there was another Seer in the game. Looking at sheer numbers, having one Seer is a death sentence

MrBug708 · 10-06-2011, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

If Bug could have - ideally it would have been one more day, to be honest. He was being pressed too much. The give-away to me that he was a roled player, or, picked up on it, was two nights in a row when he said "we might have two more people revealing roles tonight..." or something to that effect. I wasn't ready to declare him as lying or believing him just yet but I certainly never had the thought to vote him yesterday or today to be honest.

I had hoped to make it through one more day without revealing my role.

Commo_Soldier · 10-06-2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

If you go back, I've been hinting that I scanned Jackal and Danny yesterday. Had I wanted to fake scan someone, I would have been safer with someone with more pull than Jackal.

The Mauboy scan was more of a shot in the dark than anything.

I also wouldn't be surprised if there was another Seer in the game. Looking at sheer numbers, having one Seer is a death sentence

That is another one of my problems, with the hints you were dropping I think you'd be dead by now, or at least converted. Maybe you did start as the seer, maybe not, but I think you are a wolf now.

Commo_Soldier · 10-06-2011, 07:04 PM

Dola, I also am not a fan of the cover your butt comment encase someone else said they're the seer.

MrBug708 · 10-06-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

That is another one of my problems, with the hints you were dropping I think you'd be dead by now, or at least converted. Maybe you did start as the seer, maybe not, but I think you are a wolf now.

Because the wolves don't know for sure that I was the Seer either. Today was the first day where I've come out and said that I'm the Seer, hinted at my first two scans and confirmed that they were in fact my scans.

What else would you have done as the Seer? Sit and be lynched without revealing?

I don't understand your angle here.

dubb93 · 10-06-2011, 07:12 PM

It is entirely possible for the seer to be converted without the wolves even targeting him. His scans have a % chance of converted him to the evil side each time he scans. We will play the wait and see. I bet he dies tonight. The wolves don't want to risk him nailing one, but if he hangs around he has clearly been converted.

dubb93 · 10-06-2011, 07:13 PM

I've also been wondering why the wolves were not seer hunting. Bug being converted would via one of his scans would put that wonder to rest. But I am absolutely not willing to put my theory to test today.

dubb93 · 10-06-2011, 07:15 PM

Vote count?

MrBug708 · 10-06-2011, 07:20 PM

I hope the corruption factor would be greater than 1/3

mauchow · 10-06-2011, 07:21 PM

EF - 6
Raiders - 5

CrimsonFox · 10-06-2011, 07:23 PM

Bug 1 - Eaglefan (1758)
raiders 5 - Thomkal (1708) Autumn (1725) Jackal (1760) dzilla (1889) crimsonfox (1891)
crimsonfox 1 - dubb (1769)
eaglefan 6 - hoops (1784) gramma (1819) Narcizo (1829) j23 (1837) SnDvls (1845) Raiders (1876)

mauchow · 10-06-2011, 07:25 PM

Bug 1 - Eaglefan (1758)
raiders 5 - Thomkal (1708) Autumn (1725) Jackal (1760), dzilla (1889), CF (1891)
crimsonfox 1 - Dubb (1769)
eaglefan 6 - hoops (1784) gramma (1819) Narcizo (1829) j23 (1837) SnDvls (1845) Raiders (1876)

mauchow · 10-06-2011, 07:25 PM

copy cat

mauchow · 10-06-2011, 07:25 PM

i mean, JINX!!!!

CrimsonFox · 10-06-2011, 07:28 PM

here's your stupid coke.

*hands over a cherry coke zero*

Autumn · 10-06-2011, 07:32 PM

It wouldn't be particularly surprising if Bug's was a fake reveal, or he has been corrupted or converted, but it doesn't make sense to do anything about that tonight. We just have to take his scans with a grain of salt.

Commo_Soldier · 10-06-2011, 07:38 PM

Here are all the noteworthy posts for Bug, while there is plenty there that could be seen as good, to me it is just too easy for a wolf to play a seer as they know everything.

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I dont have much to add. But I think Autumn's list of people who switched votes and avoided ntn originally, is a good list of candidates.

Why am I always on your radar?

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Vote - McKerney

This vote really had me confused as to why you scanned Danny night two and a big reason why I have a problem trusting the reveal. You vote McKerney and then leave for the day. It is the next day when you finally state that you found out he revealed and what his role was, so why not scan him if you think he is bad? I've not played much, but isn't Danny one of the reasons the thread about I can't believe he is still alive on day 4 thread. Seems like a waste of a scan when you can convert because of it when you have someone you think may be a wolf.

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You scanned me?

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In the evil dead game? Yeah.

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I totally misread that...haha

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I'll tell you what Jackal, since you scanned me last game, we can pretend you were scanned this game. Since I was good, I'll assume you are good in this game.

Deal?

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As a vanilla villager, what is your take?

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So as a wolf, I figured it would be better to not switch it and think it would construed as a "non-wolf" action and thus get away from it?

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The bad part is that I still couldn't tell you what role Mckerny has. I'd need to flip back or wait for someone to list the roles

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Let me clarify. I now know that he had revealed his role. I had to go back and look right now to actually see what his role was. I either didn't read his post at all or just glossed over it.

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I also didn't know when McKerney made his reveal either

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CF - Wasn't curious at the time, There are so many fluctuations based on a spur of the moment decision with people starting rungs. The tap tap tap was because I had thought the deadline was at 6, not 7

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Well, yesterday brought out two reveals, maybe two more will come out today.

You alluded to this in your defense, but why say two, why not say maybe another will come out today.

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Jackal's a good dude, stop piling on everyone

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Vote Thomkal

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I think they are probably too far out of radar to scan

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By scan I meant do an exorcism

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I picked thmkal mostly cuz he had voted for me first

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I had no reason to switch and had I switched you would say I was just adding my vote on a pile on

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How about earlier in the day, why did you not consider voting Zinto when it looked like you two were going to be the candidates?

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Haha...people are complaining that I was not active enough so I'm active (not subbing) and I'm suspicious...

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No need to react so soon in the day

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Uh no, look at the case I laid out, it has nothing to do with your activity level. But you are getting awfully defensive.

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How else does one react when another person is laying into another pretty heavily on little evidence

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Especially when I can't lay into you with your posts

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Little evidence? Everyone of your votes is bad and it was clear you and Zinto avoided voting each other today. There is more evidence against you than any other player in the game.

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I see more hunches than anything...cf can attest to my odd tendencies in threads

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Doesn't mean I'm a wolf

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What happens when you have a villager in your sights?

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Formulate a backup candidate

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I hope you aren't killed either

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Danny wasn't someone I wanted to see die

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OK, all caught up on the night actions.

I exorcised CF last night - no effect. Doesn't mean he's good, just that he's not possessed.

All in all, I can't vote for you tonight with the positives you do have, but there are some things that just make me say huh.

dubb93 · 10-06-2011, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

I hope the corruption factor would be greater than 1/3

Even if it 1/100 it would still hit on the first time once out of a hundred. Or are you wanting to argue just to be arguing?

Commo_Soldier · 10-06-2011, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

here's your stupid coke.

*hands over a cherry coke zero*

You got the stupid coke right.

dzilla77 · 10-06-2011, 07:41 PM

How did my quote get in there?

Chief Rum · 10-06-2011, 07:41 PM

Here's a thought: Wolves get lucky, convert the seer early, hatch a plan to save one of their own and get him in the COT by claiming seer when he gets in trouble. Knowing no seer will be around to say otherwise.

Not saying that's what happened, just pointing out the possibility.

mauchow · 10-06-2011, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

here's your stupid coke.

*hands over a cherry coke zero*

yum! the best!

Commo_Soldier · 10-06-2011, 07:43 PM

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How did my quote get in there?

That was a mistake, I was done multiquoting but not on the same page as the last quote. So I just clicked on a quote to end it and forgot to delete it.

MrBug708 · 10-06-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Even if it 1/100 it would still hit on the first time once out of a hundred. Or are you wanting to argue just to be arguing?

Hello of an argument...lynch the seer on a 1% chance

Commo_Soldier · 10-06-2011, 07:44 PM

Dola, the smart ass answer I was going to use was, DUH I hit the quote button.

dzilla77 · 10-06-2011, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

Dola, the smart ass answer I was going to use was, DUH I hit the quote button.

Fair enough

Commo_Soldier · 10-06-2011, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Hello of an argument...lynch the seer on a 1% chance

Actually, it is at least 3%, if it is 1/100, as you've done three scans. Not to mention if you were not already converted or not the seer, but I doubt the last is likely now.

dzilla77 · 10-06-2011, 07:47 PM

Maybe mrbug should go on the exorcism list for tonight.

That would be narc, CR and mrbug.

Commo_Soldier · 10-06-2011, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dzilla77

Maybe mrbug should go on the exorcism list for tonight.

That would be narc, CR and mrbug.

That is another quote I forgot to bring up of his. After the reveal he was asking that he be BG'd tonight. As a wolf that would be excellent because they can then get rid of DZ who is left out to dry.

MrBug708 · 10-06-2011, 07:49 PM

Exorcism doesn't cleanse corruption I don't think

Commo_Soldier · 10-06-2011, 07:51 PM

dola, I'm not sure Narc was a convert, I think if anything he is an original, why would they convert somone that can't swing things that well.

dzilla77 · 10-06-2011, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Exorcism doesn't cleanse corruption I don't think

So are you saying you are corrupted? People could become possessed, too I think.

Commo_Soldier · 10-06-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Exorcism doesn't cleanse corruption I don't think

That is one thing I'm not sure one. I thought corrupted/possessed was the same. It appears only the exorcist can bring someone back from being a wolf.

MrBug708 · 10-06-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dzilla77

So are you saying you are corrupted? People could become possessed, too I think.

Not at all. Just piggybacking on the talk on the backlash on my scans

EagleFan · 10-06-2011, 08:00 PM

Wow, I go away and a run starts. Not that big of a loss for the village though. Pure vanilla and haven't had enough time to help out so this is fine.

On a better note...

LET'S GO FLYERS!!!!

Chief Rum · 10-06-2011, 08:05 PM

Time to put a vote in. I don't really get the EF vote much, but I am not going to run from a close vote. If I have to choose between EF and RA, I am going to...

VOTE RAIDERS ARMY

dzilla77 · 10-06-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

That is one thing I'm not sure one. I thought corrupted/possessed was the same. It appears only the exorcist can bring someone back from being a wolf.

I don't think it is. In the exorcist description from page 1 both terms are used:

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The Exorcist – Like the Minister, you are also immune to corruption. Once per night, you can Exorcize a person. If they are possessed, they will stop being possessed, and will re-convert to the Lightbringers. This is dangerous to you. That person will be Exorcized in the thread, and it will be known they were once possessed. New rules for that player will be given to that player, in this event. They will gain a new, hidden role, The Exorcized, with its own powers and restrictions. You are immune to attack from minor undead, and will automatically defeat any minor undead attack (vampires are not minor undead, but zombies, skeletons, etc. are)

mckerney · 10-06-2011, 08:06 PM

After being prepared to vote MrBug today I don't really have any strong feelings here towards either candidate. Only thing I can come up with is maybe the wolves went with a conversion of an under the radar ntn voter from day one.

Vote Raiders Army

dzilla77 · 10-06-2011, 08:08 PM

THe mesmerizing ability may be a form of possession, so Zinto may have possessed someone on night 1 or 2.

dzilla77 · 10-06-2011, 08:09 PM

RA would have been a good candidate to convert given when his vote on NTN was cast.

Thomkal · 10-06-2011, 08:09 PM

hey mrbug in case whoever gets lynched is a Servant and has a brutal power, you probably shouldn't be on the leader.

10-06-2011, 06:48 PM	#1903
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I received an item from someone Night One, and he mentioned it in thread. It confirmed what we had both surmised in commenting on our items on Day One. I have since tried to pass either item off, in the hopes it could be used for protection, but each time my chosen target was the wolf's choice for a kill. So my item was never passed (items are passed last in night action order). I don't know it does much for way of trust, though. All players, wolf and villager, started with items. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

10-06-2011, 06:53 PM	#1906
Commo_Soldier College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JBLM, WA	The more I think about things I'm curious, why do we really believe Bugs reveal? Day one - Jackal - I think he just said this because Jackal has been on his side and told him he should reveal now if he is the seer. Day two - Danny - I can't see why Danny would have needed to be scanned by the seer, that is more of an exorcist thing as I don't think anyone believed he was an original wolf. Day three - Mau - Nothing has screamed wolf to me and if converted more of an exorcist thing. My big thing though is I think it was just a save his ass type of move, Jackal gave him the out and he took it. I'm seriously considering moving back onto him. Unvote CF __________________ I killed a wolf and I liked it.

10-06-2011, 07:04 PM	#1913
Commo_Soldier College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JBLM, WA	Dola, I also am not a fan of the cover your butt comment encase someone else said they're the seer. __________________ I killed a wolf and I liked it.

10-06-2011, 07:41 PM	#1930
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Here's a thought: Wolves get lucky, convert the seer early, hatch a plan to save one of their own and get him in the COT by claiming seer when he gets in trouble. Knowing no seer will be around to say otherwise. Not saying that's what happened, just pointing out the possibility. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

10-06-2011, 07:44 PM	#1934
Commo_Soldier College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JBLM, WA	Dola, the smart ass answer I was going to use was, DUH I hit the quote button. __________________ I killed a wolf and I liked it.

10-06-2011, 06:54 PM	#1907
dzilla77 High School Varsity Join Date: May 2011	Narc is escaping scrutiny and is not participating to his usual level. I know he indicated this at the beginning of the game, but his votes have been completely throw away. I am thinking or Narc and Chief Rum for exorcism targets tonight. Anybody else have a suggestion?

10-06-2011, 06:56 PM	#1908
dzilla77 High School Varsity Join Date: May 2011	Oh and just to clear confusion - corruption is different from possession, as far as I can tell. I am ineffective against corrupted individuals. If they are possessed, I can exorcise them.

10-06-2011, 06:56 PM	#1909
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	If Bug could have - ideally it would have been one more day, to be honest. He was being pressed too much. The give-away to me that he was a roled player, or, picked up on it, was two nights in a row when he said "we might have two more people revealing roles tonight..." or something to that effect. I wasn't ready to declare him as lying or believing him just yet but I certainly never had the thought to vote him yesterday or today to be honest. And without a counter, there is no way I would consider voting Bug. I would, however, consider voting him any day AFTER today, thanks to conversions and stuff like that..

10-06-2011, 07:20 PM	#1918
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I hope the corruption factor would be greater than 1/3

10-06-2011, 07:21 PM	#1919
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	EF - 6 Raiders - 5

10-06-2011, 07:23 PM	#1920
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Bug 1 - Eaglefan (1758) raiders 5 - Thomkal (1708) Autumn (1725) Jackal (1760) dzilla (1889) crimsonfox (1891) crimsonfox 1 - dubb (1769) eaglefan 6 - hoops (1784) gramma (1819) Narcizo (1829) j23 (1837) SnDvls (1845) Raiders (1876)

10-06-2011, 07:25 PM	#1921
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Bug 1 - Eaglefan (1758) raiders 5 - Thomkal (1708) Autumn (1725) Jackal (1760), dzilla (1889), CF (1891) crimsonfox 1 - Dubb (1769) eaglefan 6 - hoops (1784) gramma (1819) Narcizo (1829) j23 (1837) SnDvls (1845) Raiders (1876)

10-06-2011, 07:25 PM	#1922
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	copy cat

10-06-2011, 07:25 PM	#1923
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	i mean, JINX!!!!

10-06-2011, 07:28 PM	#1924
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	here's your stupid coke. hands over a cherry coke zero

10-06-2011, 07:32 PM	#1925
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	It wouldn't be particularly surprising if Bug's was a fake reveal, or he has been corrupted or converted, but it doesn't make sense to do anything about that tonight. We just have to take his scans with a grain of salt.

10-06-2011, 07:41 PM	#1929
dzilla77 High School Varsity Join Date: May 2011	How did my quote get in there?

10-06-2011, 07:47 PM	#1937
dzilla77 High School Varsity Join Date: May 2011	Maybe mrbug should go on the exorcism list for tonight. That would be narc, CR and mrbug.

10-06-2011, 07:49 PM	#1939
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Exorcism doesn't cleanse corruption I don't think

10-06-2011, 07:51 PM	#1940
Commo_Soldier College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JBLM, WA	dola, I'm not sure Narc was a convert, I think if anything he is an original, why would they convert somone that can't swing things that well. __________________ I killed a wolf and I liked it.

10-06-2011, 08:00 PM	#1944
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Wow, I go away and a run starts. Not that big of a loss for the village though. Pure vanilla and haven't had enough time to help out so this is fine. On a better note... LET'S GO FLYERS!!!! __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

10-06-2011, 08:05 PM	#1945
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Time to put a vote in. I don't really get the EF vote much, but I am not going to run from a close vote. If I have to choose between EF and RA, I am going to... VOTE RAIDERS ARMY __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

10-06-2011, 08:06 PM	#1947
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	After being prepared to vote MrBug today I don't really have any strong feelings here towards either candidate. Only thing I can come up with is maybe the wolves went with a conversion of an under the radar ntn voter from day one. Vote Raiders Army

10-06-2011, 08:08 PM	#1948
dzilla77 High School Varsity Join Date: May 2011	THe mesmerizing ability may be a form of possession, so Zinto may have possessed someone on night 1 or 2.

10-06-2011, 08:09 PM	#1949
dzilla77 High School Varsity Join Date: May 2011	RA would have been a good candidate to convert given when his vote on NTN was cast.

10-06-2011, 08:09 PM	#1950
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	hey mrbug in case whoever gets lynched is a Servant and has a brutal power, you probably shouldn't be on the leader.

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