Official 2010-11 College Basketball Thread - Page 15

Mizzou B-ball fan · 01-29-2011, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Yeah, reminded me of a boxing hit to the jaw for sure.

This team is exciting to watch MBBF.. don't fret, we will finish strong!

Not worried at all. As I said, I'd like to be disappointed with 17-4 every year.

MizzouRah · 01-30-2011, 12:34 AM

Me too.. I hate thest peiple on the raido who talk about the footaball team.. what, you want to go back to 7-5 seasons?

Mizzou B-ball fan · 01-30-2011, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Me too.. I hate thest peiple on the raido who talk about the footaball team.. what, you want to go back to 7-5 seasons?

I'm not worried because our 'murderer's row' in our schedule is pretty much over. Take a look at the rest of the schedule.

at Oklahoma State
Colorado
at Kansas
Oklahoma
Tech
at Iowa State
Baylor
at Kansas State
at Nebraska
Kansas

Outside of the Kansas games, we have a great shot at winning all of those games. 11-5 is a good probability. That likely will get you a bye in the tournament with an overall record of 25-6. Even a 10-6 record gives you a record of 24-7. I'll begrudgingly take that.

Logan · 01-30-2011, 02:31 PM

St. John's beat the hell out of Duke.

MizzouRah · 01-30-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I'm not worried because our 'murderer's row' in our schedule is pretty much over. Take a look at the rest of the schedule.

at Oklahoma State
Colorado
at Kansas
Oklahoma
Tech
at Iowa State
Baylor
at Kansas State
at Nebraska
Kansas

Outside of the Kansas games, we have a great shot at winning all of those games. 11-5 is a good probability. That likely will get you a bye in the tournament with an overall record of 25-6. Even a 10-6 record gives you a record of 24-7. I'll begrudgingly take that.

11-5 seems like a good shot

Swaggs · 01-30-2011, 03:20 PM

I feel a little better about WVU losing to St. John's now.

MrBug708 · 01-30-2011, 04:05 PM

Lavin being Lavin.

Swaggs · 01-30-2011, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Lavin being Lavin.

I think Lavin is going to be very successful as long as he is CEOing and recruiting and he has Gene Keady on the bench managing things during actual games. If Keady sticks around for another two seasons, St. John's could be really good.

They have a ton of seniors this season and their freshmen will take some lumps next year, but I'd look for them to be in he top 4-5 in the BE after that.

Scarecrow · 01-30-2011, 06:08 PM

K-State's season summed up in one video:

sterlingice · 01-30-2011, 07:07 PM

Yeah- that was just horrible luck. I mean, really. It went all the way down and came back out.

SI

Mizzou B-ball fan · 01-30-2011, 07:21 PM

Looks like some of the mid-week games in the Big 12 may be postponed due to the winter storm.

MJ4H · 01-30-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Yeah- that was just horrible luck. I mean, really. It went all the way down and came back out.

SI

Wait a minute, what's the rule here? Did that not count?

cartman · 01-30-2011, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MJ4H

Wait a minute, what's the rule here? Did that not count?

A quick reading of the NCAA rules states at the ball must travel through the basket, and in their definition of the basket, the net is part of it. So technically the ball must pass through the net. If someone knocks it back through, that is goaltending, but from the video is seems the net itself slings the ball back out.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 01-30-2011, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MJ4H

Wait a minute, what's the rule here? Did that not count?

Nope. Has to go completely through the net to count.

MJ4H · 01-30-2011, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

A quick reading of the NCAA rules states at the ball must travel through the basket, and in their definition of the basket, the net is part of it. So technically the ball must pass through the net. If someone knocks it back through, that is goaltending, but from the video is seems the net itself slings the ball back out.

harsh

cartman · 01-30-2011, 07:40 PM

There is also another phrase for the definition of "goal" in the rule book that says "remains in" the basket. So apparently if the net traps the ball after it enters from above, that counts. But not sure if I've ever seen that happen in a game before.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 01-31-2011, 03:38 PM

Wally Judge has quit at KSU. What a mess. Martin's time at KSU is starting to look eerily similar to the Quin Snyder years at Mizzou. A surprising Elite Eight experience followed by a high ranking that turned into a season-long failure. Martin will get a shot next year, but the talent is bare at this point and I'm not sure he can turn it around.

cartman · 01-31-2011, 10:06 PM

Texas with another stellar defense effort, getting their first win at College Station in 7 years, 69-49. I guess they just got lucky and A&M missed a bunch of open shots in holding the Aggies to 17 of 55 shooting for the game.

duckman · 01-31-2011, 10:34 PM

That has to be a program defining win for your team too!

jbergey22 · 01-31-2011, 10:41 PM

So much for that 0-4 stretch for Texas.

Lathum · 01-31-2011, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Texas is a head-scratcher of a team. Wouldn't be surprised at all if they lose their next four. Three road games (KU, A&M, OSU) and a home game against Mizzou who they haven't beaten in over four years.

QFT

MizzouRah · 01-31-2011, 10:55 PM

Yeah.. Texas is for real.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 02-01-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

QFT

Without question, it's been an amazing stretch for Texas. 2-2 would have been very good for that stretch. 3-0 thus far is incredible.

jbergey22 · 02-01-2011, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Without question, it's been an amazing stretch for Texas. 2-2 would have been very good for that stretch. 3-0 thus far is incredible.

4-0

Mizzou B-ball fan · 02-01-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

4-0

You're right. Forgot about OSU. Definitely incredible.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 02-01-2011, 04:24 PM

OSU is opening the doors for the OSU/Mizzou game. No admission charge for anyone brave enough to make it to the game. Mizzou still here in KC. Going to try to make it to Stillwater tomorrow.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextr..._0_STILLW22616

panerd · 02-01-2011, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

OSU is opening the doors for the OSU/Mizzou game. No admission charge for anyone brave enough to make it to the game. Mizzou still here in KC. Going to try to make it to Stillwater tomorrow.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextr..._0_STILLW22616

Seems like a really bad idea. Didn't OSU really have to make it back from that game in Colorado a few years ago? Just reschedule the damn thing! It's not 1940, a trip to Stillwater is an hour from Columbia regional.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 02-01-2011, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by panerd

Seems like a really bad idea. Didn't OSU really have to make it back from that game in Colorado a few years ago? Just reschedule the damn thing! It's not 1940, a trip to Stillwater is an hour from Columbia regional.

Yeah, I'm hoping if they do go that they go via bus. Flying in 50 MPH winds seems like a really bad idea. KCI is closed and not expected to open until tomorrow. Not sure if any flights will go out of the downtown airport either. I'm sure the OSU staff is also thinking about that tragedy and wondering if they should risk it.

Logan · 02-01-2011, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Wally Judge has quit at KSU. What a mess. Martin's time at KSU is starting to look eerily similar to the Quin Snyder years at Mizzou. A surprising Elite Eight experience followed by a high ranking that turned into a season-long failure. Martin will get a shot next year, but the talent is bare at this point and I'm not sure he can turn it around.

Interesting that I just heard Judge could end up at Rutgers based on his connection with assistant coach David Cox from their DC Assault days.

rjolley · 02-01-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Yeah, I'm hoping if they do go that they go via bus. Flying in 50 MPH winds seems like a really bad idea. KCI is closed and not expected to open until tomorrow. Not sure if any flights will go out of the downtown airport either. I'm sure the OSU staff is also thinking about that tragedy and wondering if they should risk it.

KC has a downtown airport? I don't remember that and I worked in downtown KC.

cartman · 02-01-2011, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Texas gets their conference play off to a great start with a 83-52 dismantling of Texas Tech in Lubbock.

We'll find out pretty soon if the Horns have a shot at winning the Big 12. They host OU, then run the Big 12 gauntlet in the five games after that:

vs. A&M
at Kansas
at Oklahoma State
vs. Mizzou
at A&M

4-1 would be excellent for that stretch, but 3-2 is more likely.

I never would have pegged them to go 5-0, especially winning each of the games in dominating fashion.

panerd · 02-01-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rjolley

KC has a downtown airport? I don't remember that and I worked in downtown KC.

Yeah, its right by downtown across the Missouri River. How did you miss an airport?

sterlingice · 02-01-2011, 07:29 PM

Yeah, but it's a little dinky executive airport. It's not exactly a popular taking off point. Can't say I've ever flown out of there.

SI

rjolley · 02-01-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by panerd

Yeah, its right by downtown across the Missouri River. How did you miss an airport?

LOL That's exactly what I was thinking.

I worked at Birch Telecom not too far from Crown Plaza. Still don't remember seeing planes down there.

mauchow · 02-01-2011, 08:04 PM

Whew! Wisconsin comes around to beat Purdue. Kind of a strange game. Purdue had 19 points in the first half and then had 19 points in the first five minutes of the second half. The Badgers were able to overcome a 12/13 field goal run for the Boilermakers and a 7 pt deficit in the second half to win at home. Some definite help on occasion from the referees but then some mind-boggling missed calls. JaJuan Johnson is over-rated in my opinion. He travels a lot (not called) and makes poor decisions. I admit he's a good baller but not a top-notch player that is always said about him. I would take Jon Leuer over him every day of the week (but that may be my rose colored glasses talking though).

And I HATE analysts who talk about the Badgers. I just heard the guy say "If you like watching paint dry you might like watching the Badgers...." Really? Really.. Really? Excuse the Badgers for being one of the most efficient offenses in all of college basketball. And then add the fact that they have two players that are quite possibly top five in the country at their positions in Jordan Taylor and Leuer.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 02-01-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rjolley

LOL That's exactly what I was thinking.

I worked at Birch Telecom not too far from Crown Plaza. Still don't remember seeing planes down there.

It's actually a pretty busy airport, but it's all private executive jets and charter flights. I've flown in a private jet a couple times out of there. Pretty nice to not have to go through security to fly somewhere.

Radii · 02-01-2011, 11:26 PM

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UNC: they have a huge stretch coming up, at BC, vs FSU, at Duke, at Clemson. They played the closest thing to a complete game today that I've seen, but still I think 2-2 over the next 4 would be great.

Holy shit what a start to this 4 game stretch I mentioned over the weekend... UNC absolutely decimates Boston College in their house, 106-74. This is the best I've seen UNC play since the 2009 national title game. Against NC State they had some poor stretches but State was just not up to taking advantage of it. Here there was just no weakness, no poor stretch at all.

Harrison Barnes sets another career high with 26 points. He took maybe one bad shot, added 6 boards and only turned it over once. The turnovers are as important imo as the scoring, he's really played in control the past couple games and has hopefully turned a corner.

HUGE game against FSU at home coming up this weekend, FSU is only 1/2 game behind Duke and UNC at the top of the league.

I'd like to point out again that things *really* seemed to come together imo the second Larry Drew was benched for Kendall Marshall.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 02-02-2011, 01:12 PM

Mizzou plane got out of KC. Will arrive in Stillwater around 3:00 PM. Going to be a tough game with such a short turnaround.

duckman · 02-02-2011, 04:46 PM

Oklahoma beat Baylor 73-66 for their 4th straight win. They are currently 4th in the conference. Now, I know they will probably maintain this, but it still feels good knowing they are not as bad as predicted. Of course, the entire Big XII is pretty weak this season.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 02-02-2011, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman

Oklahoma beat Baylor 73-66 for their 4th straight win. They are currently 4th in the conference. Now, I know they will probably maintain this, but it still feels good knowing they are not as bad as predicted. Of course, the entire Big XII is pretty weak this season.

Drew continues to demonstrate what can happen when you are a good recruiter with no coaching skills. Unbelievable.

panerd · 02-02-2011, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman

Oklahoma beat Baylor 73-66 for their 4th straight win. They are currently 4th in the conference. Now, I know they will probably maintain this, but it still feels good knowing they are not as bad as predicted. Of course, the entire Big XII is pretty weak this season.

#2, #3, #14, & #16. It's no Big East but not that weak. I think the bottom 6 teams (not sure what to make of Baylor and K-State) ae justr very close to each other and thus there are a lot of 3 and 4 win teams.

jbergey22 · 02-02-2011, 08:21 PM

According to Ken Pom its

1. Big Ten .8999
2. Big East .8824
3. Big 12 .8591
4. ACC .8274
5. Pac-10 .8064

Big 12 is the only conference with 2 teams in his top 5. Big 10 has 3 in the top 10. Big East has 10 in the top 30 but only 1 in his top 10.

Matthean · 02-02-2011, 09:30 PM

MSU is basically done. They are currently getting beat by 20+ to Iowa and 5 of their next 6 are against ranked teams and they finish @Michigan. Izzo's tourney magic will have to work it's magic in the NIT because I'm clueless how a team this lifeless flips the switch at this point.

jbergey22 · 02-02-2011, 09:41 PM

Syracuse with a much needed win and a big one at that.

Oklahoma State appears to be having a program defining win tonight.

Poli · 02-02-2011, 09:48 PM

It's really quiet here at the Poli house. The Mizzou game is on. Odd, my roommate isn't talking smack about the greatness of Mizzou. I wonder what the matter is.

jbergey22 · 02-02-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

MSU is basically done. They are currently getting beat by 20+ to Iowa and 5 of their next 6 are against ranked teams and they finish @Michigan. Izzo's tourney magic will have to work it's magic in the NIT because I'm clueless how a team this lifeless flips the switch at this point.

I was very surprised they were able to make the run they did last year with a lack of scoring options. Seems to be a bigger problem this year. Izzo's coaching can only take them so far he just needs a get a couple scorers to go with a his great rebounders and defenders.

MizzouRah · 02-02-2011, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Poli

It's really quiet here at the Poli house. The Mizzou game is on. Odd, my roommate isn't talking smack about the greatness of Mizzou. I wonder what the matter is.

What about the greatness of Tennessee?

panerd · 02-02-2011, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Poli

It's really quiet here at the Poli house. The Mizzou game is on. Odd, my roommate isn't talking smack about the greatness of Mizzou. I wonder what the matter is.

It's always the officials from Mizzou fans right? Nah a 43-16 free throw discrepancy is pretty normal for most games.

Swaggs · 02-02-2011, 10:30 PM

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It's always the officials from Mizzou fans right? Nah a 43-16 free throw discrepancy is pretty normal for most games.

Could be the physical, full-court defense that Missouri plays?

jbergey22 · 02-02-2011, 10:32 PM

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Could be the physical, full-court defense that Missouri plays?

No way! Refs single out Mizzou every single year. Its a conspiracy.

01-30-2011, 03:20 PM	#706
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I feel a little better about WVU losing to St. John's now. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

01-30-2011, 06:08 PM	#709
Scarecrow College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Flatlands of America	K-State's season summed up in one video: __________________ Post Count: Eleventy Billion - so deal with it!

01-30-2011, 07:07 PM	#710
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Yeah- that was just horrible luck. I mean, really. It went all the way down and came back out. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

01-30-2011, 07:40 PM	#716
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	There is also another phrase for the definition of "goal" in the rule book that says "remains in" the basket. So apparently if the net traps the ball after it enters from above, that counts. But not sure if I've ever seen that happen in a game before. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

01-31-2011, 10:06 PM	#718
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Texas with another stellar defense effort, getting their first win at College Station in 7 years, 69-49. I guess they just got lucky and A&M missed a bunch of open shots in holding the Aggies to 17 of 55 shooting for the game. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

01-30-2011, 12:34 AM	#702
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Me too.. I hate thest peiple on the raido who talk about the footaball team.. what, you want to go back to 7-5 seasons?

01-30-2011, 02:31 PM	#704
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	St. John's beat the hell out of Duke.

01-30-2011, 04:05 PM	#707
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Lavin being Lavin.

01-30-2011, 07:21 PM	#711
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Looks like some of the mid-week games in the Big 12 may be postponed due to the winter storm.

01-31-2011, 03:38 PM	#717
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Wally Judge has quit at KSU. What a mess. Martin's time at KSU is starting to look eerily similar to the Quin Snyder years at Mizzou. A surprising Elite Eight experience followed by a high ranking that turned into a season-long failure. Martin will get a shot next year, but the talent is bare at this point and I'm not sure he can turn it around.

01-31-2011, 10:41 PM	#720
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	So much for that 0-4 stretch for Texas.

01-31-2011, 10:55 PM	#722
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Yeah.. Texas is for real.

02-01-2011, 04:24 PM	#726
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	OSU is opening the doors for the OSU/Mizzou game. No admission charge for anyone brave enough to make it to the game. Mizzou still here in KC. Going to try to make it to Stillwater tomorrow. http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextr..._0_STILLW22616

02-01-2011, 07:29 PM	#733
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Yeah, but it's a little dinky executive airport. It's not exactly a popular taking off point. Can't say I've ever flown out of there. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-01-2011, 08:04 PM	#735
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Whew! Wisconsin comes around to beat Purdue. Kind of a strange game. Purdue had 19 points in the first half and then had 19 points in the first five minutes of the second half. The Badgers were able to overcome a 12/13 field goal run for the Boilermakers and a 7 pt deficit in the second half to win at home. Some definite help on occasion from the referees but then some mind-boggling missed calls. JaJuan Johnson is over-rated in my opinion. He travels a lot (not called) and makes poor decisions. I admit he's a good baller but not a top-notch player that is always said about him. I would take Jon Leuer over him every day of the week (but that may be my rose colored glasses talking though). And I HATE analysts who talk about the Badgers. I just heard the guy say "If you like watching paint dry you might like watching the Badgers...." Really? Really.. Really? Excuse the Badgers for being one of the most efficient offenses in all of college basketball. And then add the fact that they have two players that are quite possibly top five in the country at their positions in Jordan Taylor and Leuer.

02-02-2011, 01:12 PM	#738
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Mizzou plane got out of KC. Will arrive in Stillwater around 3:00 PM. Going to be a tough game with such a short turnaround.

02-02-2011, 08:21 PM	#742
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	According to Ken Pom its 1. Big Ten .8999 2. Big East .8824 3. Big 12 .8591 4. ACC .8274 5. Pac-10 .8064 Big 12 is the only conference with 2 teams in his top 5. Big 10 has 3 in the top 10. Big East has 10 in the top 30 but only 1 in his top 10.

02-02-2011, 09:30 PM	#743
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	MSU is basically done. They are currently getting beat by 20+ to Iowa and 5 of their next 6 are against ranked teams and they finish @Michigan. Izzo's tourney magic will have to work it's magic in the NIT because I'm clueless how a team this lifeless flips the switch at this point. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

02-02-2011, 09:41 PM	#744
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Syracuse with a much needed win and a big one at that. Oklahoma State appears to be having a program defining win tonight. Last edited by jbergey22 : 02-02-2011 at 09:42 PM.

02-02-2011, 09:48 PM	#745
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	It's really quiet here at the Poli house. The Mizzou game is on. Odd, my roommate isn't talking smack about the greatness of Mizzou. I wonder what the matter is. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

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