Werewolf XCVII - Labyrinth II (GAME OVER - COMMONERS WIN!) - Page 12

Autumn · 06-24-2009, 03:26 PM

I guess I'd prefer to reveal and get votes on real wolf candidates, and early enough for the voting to keep up, and before the wolves get their act together and try to fake reveal.

I'm Nightcrawler. I did not want to reveal as that basically nullifies the advantage my role gives to the village, but I'd rather we lynch a wolf. With all the action in my direction the wolves would never bother killing me anyway.

The Jackal · 06-24-2009, 03:27 PM

Did it get a bit chilly in here? Brr. For one of you, at least!

ntndeacon · 06-24-2009, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

Anyone else think voting off Martin's list is the best way to go? I think it makes great sense early.

I hope others do not feel this way. I am not going to vote for someone just because he was a random person on Martin's pre game list.

Danny · 06-24-2009, 03:29 PM

Since I can't be on for the action

Unvote Autumn
Vote Jag

Abe already has a lot votes and I trust you guys will nail Autumn if someone counter reveals as nightcrawler.

Danny · 06-24-2009, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Did it get a bit chilly in here? Brr. For one of you, at least!

I'm guessing the ice ancient froze someone just now. If that is the case Render looks good since it means that was a kill attempt.

Danny · 06-24-2009, 03:34 PM

Autumn post if you can

Danny · 06-24-2009, 03:34 PM

JAG as well, post if you can so we know it wasn't you who was silenced.

Autumn · 06-24-2009, 03:36 PM

I can post.

JAG · 06-24-2009, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

I'm Nightcrawler. I did not want to reveal as that basically nullifies the advantage my role gives to the village, but I'd rather we lynch a wolf. With all the action in my direction the wolves would never bother killing me anyway.

Nice try. It was only a matter of time before a wolf tried a fake reveal.

Vote Autumn

Danny · 06-24-2009, 03:39 PM

So Jag, you are claiming to be nightcrawler?

Autumn · 06-24-2009, 03:39 PM

unvote abe
vote jag

All I needed to hear.

JAG · 06-24-2009, 03:41 PM

Yes I am Danny, Autumn is an ancient. Obviously I can't prove it until deadline, but my vote isn't moving.

Danny · 06-24-2009, 03:41 PM

50/50 to hit a wolf now.

RendeR · 06-24-2009, 03:42 PM

I have a tennis match tonight, sorry guys. If you want me to reveal now I will.

Passacaglia · 06-24-2009, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

Yes I am Danny, Autumn is an ancient. Obviously I can't prove it until deadline, but my vote isn't moving.

No way you are Danny. I'm pretty sure Danny is Danny.

VOTE JAG

Danny · 06-24-2009, 03:44 PM

You two were my top two suspects today, so I was right about one of you, now just need to figure out which one

.

Unvote Jag
Vote Autumn

It's kind of a toss up between you two, so I am siding with the person who did not post your/our. Plus I think Abe or Autumn would have to be a wolf as well and I read Autumn as more likely to be a wolf.

Danny · 06-24-2009, 03:45 PM

With that said, I am ok with a vote for either one of the two. Worst case is we get a wolf tomorrow.

Autumn · 06-24-2009, 03:46 PM

I expect we'll get a "counter reveal" for every real at this point, the wolves are cornered. I hate to miss out on the fun of moving through the labyrinth, but if I get lynched or Jag does we'll have a wolf either way.

Danny · 06-24-2009, 03:49 PM

I'm off now, hopefully you guys hit the wolf

Autumn · 06-24-2009, 03:49 PM

"for every reveal" I meant.

JAG · 06-24-2009, 03:49 PM

There's not much I can say in my defense because my vote from yesterday looks bad. I can see why the wolves would choose Nightcrawler to fake reveal as because it's the one role they can't night kill so they figure they'll get him in a lynch. Either way this works out for us because it's one less ancient in two days if I die tonight or we get to kill our second in two days.

Thomkal · 06-24-2009, 03:51 PM

yeah now that Abe and Autumn, both dubb voters are voting for each other, I'm very curious what roles you are going to claim.

Danny · 06-24-2009, 03:51 PM

Nightcrawler also makes the most sense as a fake reveal since he seems the most likely to reach the center of the labyrinth first which really is the wolves only hope of winning.

Tyrith · 06-24-2009, 03:52 PM

Vote count?

DaddyTorgo · 06-24-2009, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR

I have a tennis match tonight, sorry guys. If you want me to reveal now I will.

no need. it's JAG vs. Autumn

Barkeep49 · 06-24-2009, 03:55 PM

Nightcrawler should have revealed almost from the get go. At least that's what I'd have done if I were he. Since JAG is newer I think he's less likely to pull that off.

Vote Autumn

Autumn · 06-24-2009, 03:55 PM

I only get to move one extra square a day than you guys, and I can't control my direction, so I'm not sure I'm all that likely to get anywhere.

Autumn · 06-24-2009, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Nightcrawler should have revealed almost from the get go. At least that's what I'd have done if I were he. Since JAG is newer I think he's less likely to pull that off.

Vote Autumn

Why would I reveal right away? I can't be night killed and so my only power is in getting them to waste a night kill.

DaddyTorgo · 06-24-2009, 03:55 PM

UNVOTE ABE
VOTE AUTMN

plenty of time and i'll be around to move it if I need to.

Barkeep49 · 06-24-2009, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

Why would I reveal right away? I can't be night killed and so my only power is in getting them to waste a night kill.

Wrong. Your power is of being invincible and having been the start of a COT.

Autumn · 06-24-2009, 03:57 PM

How so?

Thomkal · 06-24-2009, 03:58 PM

heh I obviously posted my last comment before I saw Autumn's reveal. Since I said I'd vote for a Dubb voter, I'm siding with JAG on this one for now.

VOTE Autumn

Tyrith · 06-24-2009, 04:00 PM

Runaway is bad.

VOTE JAG

dubb93 · 06-24-2009, 04:05 PM

Vote Autumn.

Worse case we get a wolf tomorrow.

Autumn · 06-24-2009, 04:09 PM

Interesting that normal wisdom is that the first reveal is true, but everybody (nearly) is jumping on me. I guess soon you'll remember why it's the normal wisdom.

Why do you guys think the wolves would have tried to kill Render instead of Martin if you think I'm a wolf?

The Jackal · 06-24-2009, 04:13 PM

Autumn 6 (JAG 559, Danny 566, BK 576, DT 579, Thomkal 582, dubb 584)
Jag 3 (Autumn 561, Pass 565, Tyrith 583)

MartinD · 06-24-2009, 04:13 PM

I had my suspicions about Autumn already, so I'm more inclined to believe JAG here. If I'm wrong, it means that we lose a day of usable vote history, but that's worth it if we find a wolf.

VOTE AUTUMN

(For what it's worth, neither Autumn or JAG are on my list.)

RendeR · 06-24-2009, 04:14 PM

Because Martin was the obvious choice to protect by the Paladin last night. The fact that he went somewhere unexpected and actually stopped the night kill tells me they were trying to avoid the obvious play and got caught.

Autumn · 06-24-2009, 04:17 PM

I think we probably should have mass revealed when we had the chance before the wolves got a chance to think about it. I've got to go to dinner and deal with the kids so I won't be back until about deadline probably. I don't have anything else to say I suppose except, oops, I made a typo this morning. I've been active all game, offering input and was the first to reveal. If somehow I make a better suspect than JAG who showed up suddenly to counterreveal and then left, well good luck.

Autumn · 06-24-2009, 04:29 PM

For however it might help, an assuming I'm still in the lead by the time I get back to the computer, I teleported randomly last night forward, right and straight. I found myself in a room with Martin.

Dinner wasn't ready so I came back trying to think of some way to prove JAG is a fake, but I don't see him on here, of course.

Autumn · 06-24-2009, 04:37 PM

Since dinner is still not ready and I'm still sitting here working, let me add that we should consider who was on the block when I revealed that got the wolves out of the woodwork. By which I mean Abe, of course, who was likely going ot be the big vote getter after I revealed. JAG, Abe and I would guess Thomkal are probably the wolves.

nfg22 · 06-24-2009, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I'm guessing the ice ancient froze someone just now. If that is the case Render looks good since it means that was a kill attempt.

Actually that places more suspicion on him, because that means he wasnt being frozen as they did it now?

Tyrith · 06-24-2009, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nfg22

Actually that places more suspicion on him, because that means he wasnt being frozen as they did it now?

Isn't it fairly reasonable that an Ancient of Ice would kill using, well, ice? And if he's lying, couldn't he make a cleaner lie than this fairly easily?

nfg22 · 06-24-2009, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Isn't it fairly reasonable that an Ancient of Ice would kill using, well, ice? And if he's lying, couldn't he make a cleaner lie than this fairly easily?

Im just saying it doesnt clear him.

nfg22 · 06-24-2009, 04:44 PM

For now im voting with Autumn...I don't see any other possibilities.

nfg22 · 06-24-2009, 04:45 PM

Vote Autumn

hoopsguy · 06-24-2009, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

There's not much I can say in my defense because my vote from yesterday looks bad. I can see why the wolves would choose Nightcrawler to fake reveal as because it's the one role they can't night kill so they figure they'll get him in a lynch. Either way this works out for us because it's one less ancient in two days if I die tonight or we get to kill our second in two days.

That was my thought as well, and why I was suspicious of the reveal when it was initially posed. Plus if/when they get a counter-reveal they at least know who not to waste a night action against.

This will be a rare case where I go against the first to reveal.

VOTE AUTUMN

Autumn · 06-24-2009, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nfg22

For now im voting with Autumn...I don't see any other possibilities.

Except for ... the guy who revealed after I did? lol

RendeR · 06-24-2009, 04:51 PM

I don't see how it casts any suspicion on me. They wanted me dead, I doubt they care if I talk, I've already told what I know.

It does corroborate my claim of being attacked last night. I was protected by the Paladin last night, that is very plain in my PM.

Thomkal · 06-24-2009, 04:55 PM

I likely will reveal after dinner-just doesn't seem worth trying to keep it a secret with so few roles left.

06-24-2009, 03:42 PM	#564
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	I have a tennis match tonight, sorry guys. If you want me to reveal now I will. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

06-24-2009, 03:55 PM	#579
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	UNVOTE ABE VOTE AUTMN plenty of time and i'll be around to move it if I need to. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-24-2009, 04:14 PM	#588
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Because Martin was the obvious choice to protect by the Paladin last night. The fact that he went somewhere unexpected and actually stopped the night kill tells me they were trying to avoid the obvious play and got caught. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

06-24-2009, 04:51 PM	#599
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	I don't see how it casts any suspicion on me. They wanted me dead, I doubt they care if I talk, I've already told what I know. It does corroborate my claim of being attacked last night. I was protected by the Paladin last night, that is very plain in my PM. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

06-24-2009, 03:26 PM	#551
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I guess I'd prefer to reveal and get votes on real wolf candidates, and early enough for the voting to keep up, and before the wolves get their act together and try to fake reveal. I'm Nightcrawler. I did not want to reveal as that basically nullifies the advantage my role gives to the village, but I'd rather we lynch a wolf. With all the action in my direction the wolves would never bother killing me anyway.

06-24-2009, 03:27 PM	#552
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Did it get a bit chilly in here? Brr. For one of you, at least!

06-24-2009, 03:29 PM	#554
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Since I can't be on for the action Unvote Autumn Vote Jag Abe already has a lot votes and I trust you guys will nail Autumn if someone counter reveals as nightcrawler.

06-24-2009, 03:34 PM	#556
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Autumn post if you can

06-24-2009, 03:34 PM	#557
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	JAG as well, post if you can so we know it wasn't you who was silenced.

06-24-2009, 03:36 PM	#558
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I can post.

06-24-2009, 03:39 PM	#560
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	So Jag, you are claiming to be nightcrawler?

06-24-2009, 03:39 PM	#561
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	unvote abe vote jag All I needed to hear.

06-24-2009, 03:41 PM	#562
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Yes I am Danny, Autumn is an ancient. Obviously I can't prove it until deadline, but my vote isn't moving.

06-24-2009, 03:41 PM	#563
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	50/50 to hit a wolf now.

06-24-2009, 03:44 PM	#566
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	You two were my top two suspects today, so I was right about one of you, now just need to figure out which one . Unvote Jag Vote Autumn It's kind of a toss up between you two, so I am siding with the person who did not post your/our. Plus I think Abe or Autumn would have to be a wolf as well and I read Autumn as more likely to be a wolf.

06-24-2009, 03:45 PM	#567
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	With that said, I am ok with a vote for either one of the two. Worst case is we get a wolf tomorrow.

06-24-2009, 03:46 PM	#568
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I expect we'll get a "counter reveal" for every real at this point, the wolves are cornered. I hate to miss out on the fun of moving through the labyrinth, but if I get lynched or Jag does we'll have a wolf either way.

06-24-2009, 03:49 PM	#569
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I'm off now, hopefully you guys hit the wolf

06-24-2009, 03:49 PM	#570
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	"for every reveal" I meant.

06-24-2009, 03:49 PM	#571
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	There's not much I can say in my defense because my vote from yesterday looks bad. I can see why the wolves would choose Nightcrawler to fake reveal as because it's the one role they can't night kill so they figure they'll get him in a lynch. Either way this works out for us because it's one less ancient in two days if I die tonight or we get to kill our second in two days.

06-24-2009, 03:51 PM	#572
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	yeah now that Abe and Autumn, both dubb voters are voting for each other, I'm very curious what roles you are going to claim.

06-24-2009, 03:51 PM	#573
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Nightcrawler also makes the most sense as a fake reveal since he seems the most likely to reach the center of the labyrinth first which really is the wolves only hope of winning.

06-24-2009, 03:52 PM	#574
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Vote count?

06-24-2009, 03:55 PM	#576
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Nightcrawler should have revealed almost from the get go. At least that's what I'd have done if I were he. Since JAG is newer I think he's less likely to pull that off. Vote Autumn

06-24-2009, 03:55 PM	#577
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I only get to move one extra square a day than you guys, and I can't control my direction, so I'm not sure I'm all that likely to get anywhere.

06-24-2009, 03:57 PM	#581
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	How so?

06-24-2009, 03:58 PM	#582
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	heh I obviously posted my last comment before I saw Autumn's reveal. Since I said I'd vote for a Dubb voter, I'm siding with JAG on this one for now. VOTE Autumn

06-24-2009, 04:00 PM	#583
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Runaway is bad. VOTE JAG

06-24-2009, 04:09 PM	#585
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Interesting that normal wisdom is that the first reveal is true, but everybody (nearly) is jumping on me. I guess soon you'll remember why it's the normal wisdom. Why do you guys think the wolves would have tried to kill Render instead of Martin if you think I'm a wolf?

06-24-2009, 04:13 PM	#586
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Autumn 6 (JAG 559, Danny 566, BK 576, DT 579, Thomkal 582, dubb 584) Jag 3 (Autumn 561, Pass 565, Tyrith 583)

06-24-2009, 04:13 PM	#587
MartinD High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: East Lothian, Scotland	I had my suspicions about Autumn already, so I'm more inclined to believe JAG here. If I'm wrong, it means that we lose a day of usable vote history, but that's worth it if we find a wolf. VOTE AUTUMN (For what it's worth, neither Autumn or JAG are on my list.)

06-24-2009, 04:17 PM	#589
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I think we probably should have mass revealed when we had the chance before the wolves got a chance to think about it. I've got to go to dinner and deal with the kids so I won't be back until about deadline probably. I don't have anything else to say I suppose except, oops, I made a typo this morning. I've been active all game, offering input and was the first to reveal. If somehow I make a better suspect than JAG who showed up suddenly to counterreveal and then left, well good luck.

06-24-2009, 04:29 PM	#590
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	For however it might help, an assuming I'm still in the lead by the time I get back to the computer, I teleported randomly last night forward, right and straight. I found myself in a room with Martin. Dinner wasn't ready so I came back trying to think of some way to prove JAG is a fake, but I don't see him on here, of course.

06-24-2009, 04:37 PM	#591
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Since dinner is still not ready and I'm still sitting here working, let me add that we should consider who was on the block when I revealed that got the wolves out of the woodwork. By which I mean Abe, of course, who was likely going ot be the big vote getter after I revealed. JAG, Abe and I would guess Thomkal are probably the wolves.