Werewolf XCVII - Labyrinth II (GAME OVER - COMMONERS WIN!) - Page 16

Danny · 06-25-2009, 12:24 PM

Barkeep is the man!

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2009, 12:27 PM

aaah okay danny - honestly i'd forgotten that there were 4 wolves listed. i just remembered fire/ice/earth

MartinD · 06-25-2009, 12:27 PM

Ah well, it was always likely that I'd have an early death in this one, with the way that things worked out - can't complain, though, as I think that I contributed a bit to the village's current strong position.

Still a long way to go, though, guys - keep it going!

Danny · 06-25-2009, 12:29 PM

I'm guessing the last wolf is Abe. I think I know what Render and CR are which would make Abe the only possibility left.

hoopsguy · 06-25-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Barkeep is the man!

?

Danny · 06-25-2009, 12:33 PM

I'd rather not give out specific details so as to not help Pass, but we ran into each other today in the labyrinth and he helped me with something.

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I'd rather not give out specific details so as to not help Pass, but we ran into each other today in the labyrinth and he helped me with something.

how did i get involved

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2009, 12:42 PM

aaah i get it

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 12:43 PM

You guys just have your wank over PM and I'll do my thing, mmkay?

Danny · 06-25-2009, 12:45 PM

You guys are sick!

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 01:04 PM

Oh wait, you guys can't PM until you meet each other, can you?

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2009, 01:10 PM

right

nfg22 · 06-25-2009, 01:18 PM

Well with JAG figured out, this thread gets boring...zzzz

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 01:19 PM

Well can we at least talk about who we trust for nfg or Tyrith? This place is snoozers. I'm still not sure myself, but am up for hearing some thoughts on it.

nfg22 · 06-25-2009, 01:21 PM

Well I think im clear. soooo that lead to tyrinth right? Case closed. Everyone else agree with that reasoning?

nfg22 · 06-25-2009, 01:21 PM

jokes aside....really I am a villager now. When the scan comes up, ill clear. Then we can focus on lynching and getting to center.

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nfg22

jokes aside....really I am a villager now. When the scan comes up, ill clear. Then we can focus on lynching and getting to center.

Wait, you're a villager now, and not Loki?

nfg22 · 06-25-2009, 01:32 PM

Well Im loki....but chose villager.

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nfg22

Well Im loki....but chose villager.

So can you talk about how the choices came to you? We've heard a little bit from Tyrith about it, but not much from you.

nfg22 · 06-25-2009, 01:39 PM

Well it wasnt a series of choices. I walked around like normal. Then yesterday Jackal asked me what I wanted to be. I should note I found an object on the ground but I dont want to reveal it. I dont think that had anything to do with my journey to villager tho.

nfg22 · 06-25-2009, 01:40 PM

I should elaborate...Jester asked me if I wanted to be Villager or wolf...and I just chose...He did not say" what do you want to be."

Danny · 06-25-2009, 01:45 PM

Loki - The Norse god of mischief returns. This role does not start the game aligned with either side - they will have multiple choices during the game that will guide their allegiance.

Tyrith's story sounds much more in line with the description here as opposed to a one time choice like nfg is claiming.

Danny · 06-25-2009, 01:46 PM

So wolves are Jag, nfg and Abe it looks like.

nfg22 · 06-25-2009, 01:47 PM

Why are you so quick to jump on me? Also that is what it says but my story stands and is true.

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

So wolves are Jag, nfg and Abe it looks like.

Abe?

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2009, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nfg22

jokes aside....really I am a villager now. When the scan comes up, ill clear. Then we can focus on lynching and getting to center.

this post reads to me like a wolf who got sloppy with their reveal and forgot that they were supposed to be loki FWIW nfg.

Now maybe you are actually Loki and not a wolf, and if that's the case, just take this as...constructive criticism, or an example of where you were maybe playing too fast-and-loose with your posts instead of being more buttoned-up.

But in a situation where it's 50/50 and one of you is a wolf faking a reveal you've got to be very deliberate and careful with what you say. You also have to really...disassociate yourself from the game. Because in that type of situation there's a significant chance people could make the wrong choice, and you shouldn't take that personally or anything.

Shit, if given the option i'm pretty sure that we'd elect to lynch both of you at the same time and take the 1-for-1 trade.

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2009, 01:53 PM

as much as we love the real-loki and value his addition to our team, i'm sure he'd agree.

nfg22 · 06-25-2009, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

this post reads to me like a wolf who got sloppy with their reveal and forgot that they were supposed to be loki FWIW nfg.

Now maybe you are actually Loki and not a wolf, and if that's the case, just take this as...constructive criticism, or an example of where you were maybe playing too fast-and-loose with your posts instead of being more buttoned-up.

But in a situation where it's 50/50 and one of you is a wolf faking a reveal you've got to be very deliberate and careful with what you say. You also have to really...disassociate yourself from the game. Because in that type of situation there's a significant chance people could make the wrong choice, and you shouldn't take that personally or anything.

Shit, if given the option i'm pretty sure that we'd elect to lynch both of you at the same time and take the 1-for-1 trade.

Well i just play how I am...im a villager and you can say what you want about me. How did I get sloppy? I said i was a villager now. I have not messed up my reveal I have been consistent.

nfg22 · 06-25-2009, 01:59 PM

Well im out till after deadline. You guys have a good day...Dont listen to the haters

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 02:01 PM

Hey, I just looked over the rules and I see no mention of a cunning. So can we assume CR is definitely good, or do we need to watch out for the cunning still? I guess I'm trying to get this all straight in my head -- if CR's not the BG, and RendeR's not the BG, doesn't that mean Abe is? Something isn't right with those three, I think.

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2009, 02:02 PM

i don't think we need to try to puzzle that out pass - at least us villagers don't.

i'm sure if the bodyguard ends up on the block he'll let us know. otherwise i don't think we want to go making it any easier.

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2009, 02:03 PM

why would we assume CR is definately good?

ntndeacon · 06-25-2009, 02:03 PM

Vote Jag for obvious reasons

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

at least us villagers don't.

How rude!

Anyway, I guess we'll be up for some more fake reveals in the future, then. That should be fun, at least.

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

why would we assume CR is definately good?

Thomkal scanned him last night -- that's why I was asking about the cunning. Otherwise, we don't have a reveal from him.

ntndeacon · 06-25-2009, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

why would we assume CR is definately good?

because no ancient had a masquerading power?

Thomkal · 06-25-2009, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Hey, I just looked over the rules and I see no mention of a cunning. So can we assume CR is definitely good, or do we need to watch out for the cunning still? I guess I'm trying to get this all straight in my head -- if CR's not the BG, and RendeR's not the BG, doesn't that mean Abe is? Something isn't right with those three, I think.

I was worried about that myself Pass, but I'm assuming there's no cunning. Jackal listed one as brutal, so not sure why he wouldn't list one as cunning as well if there was one. So I'm confident as one can be in a WW game that Chief is good and that I know his role.

Thomkal · 06-25-2009, 02:10 PM

ah yes before I forget.

vote JAG

Can brutals only kill people voting for them? I forget. Rules for this one make it seem like he can kill anybody.

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal

I was worried about that myself Pass, but I'm assuming there's no cunning. Jackal listed one as brutal, so not sure why he wouldn't list one as cunning as well if there was one. So I'm confident as one can be in a WW game that Chief is good and that I know his role.

I guess that's what I'm thinking for now. I guess I'm just thinking that if we go through all of Abe, nfg, RendeR, and Tyrith, that's where I'd be looking next.

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal

ah yes before I forget.

vote JAG

Can brutals only kill people voting for them? I forget. Rules for this one make it seem like he can kill anybody.

Usually they can kill anybody.

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2009, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Thomkal scanned him last night -- that's why I was asking about the cunning. Otherwise, we don't have a reveal from him.

lol oh right. i must have skimmed over that as i was eating my lunch. duhh

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2009, 02:11 PM

i think we need a new chart

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 02:11 PM

Plus, their kill usually can't be blocked by the BG, which does not bode well for you.

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 02:12 PM

Hmm...

UNVOTE TYRITH
VOTE NFG22

I know DT is going to hate this, but maybe we should look here instead to possibly buy the seer another scan.

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2009, 02:13 PM

we go:
1. NFG
2. Tyrith
3. Abe
4. Render

And I think we got this thing done.

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2009, 02:14 PM

dola - my list is of course after we kill JAG today

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2009, 02:14 PM

Pass - in no way does voting for NFG over JAG buy the seer another day. It's down to a bg/wolves chessmatch as far as protecting the seer - which wolf we kill (or which suspected wolf in NFG's case) has no effect on that.

Thomkal · 06-25-2009, 02:15 PM

I find it interesting that right after I posted last night my initial choices I was considering for my seer view Tyrith posted with the reveal that he was Loki. I'm not sure how to read that-that he was worried I'd scan him and find a wolf or really is Loki and on the side of the village and wanted me to view another and find a wolf.

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Pass - in no way does voting for NFG over JAG buy the seer another day. It's down to a bg/wolves chessmatch as far as protecting the seer - which wolf we kill (or which suspected wolf in NFG's case) has no effect on that.

I think generally the brutal wolf's kill can't be BG-blocked.

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

we go:
1. NFG
2. Tyrith
3. Abe
4. Render

And I think we got this thing done.

I'm assuming you mean we kill Tyrith only if nfg is good?

06-25-2009, 12:27 PM	#752
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	aaah okay danny - honestly i'd forgotten that there were 4 wolves listed. i just remembered fire/ice/earth __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-25-2009, 12:42 PM	#758
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	aaah i get it __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-25-2009, 01:10 PM	#762
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	right __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-25-2009, 01:53 PM	#777
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	as much as we love the real-loki and value his addition to our team, i'm sure he'd agree. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-25-2009, 02:02 PM	#781
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	i don't think we need to try to puzzle that out pass - at least us villagers don't. i'm sure if the bodyguard ends up on the block he'll let us know. otherwise i don't think we want to go making it any easier. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-25-2009, 12:24 PM	#751
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Barkeep is the man!

06-25-2009, 12:27 PM	#753
MartinD High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: East Lothian, Scotland	Ah well, it was always likely that I'd have an early death in this one, with the way that things worked out - can't complain, though, as I think that I contributed a bit to the village's current strong position. Still a long way to go, though, guys - keep it going!

06-25-2009, 12:29 PM	#754
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I'm guessing the last wolf is Abe. I think I know what Render and CR are which would make Abe the only possibility left.

06-25-2009, 12:33 PM	#756
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I'd rather not give out specific details so as to not help Pass, but we ran into each other today in the labyrinth and he helped me with something.

06-25-2009, 12:43 PM	#759
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	You guys just have your wank over PM and I'll do my thing, mmkay?

06-25-2009, 12:45 PM	#760
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	You guys are sick!

06-25-2009, 01:04 PM	#761
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Oh wait, you guys can't PM until you meet each other, can you?

06-25-2009, 01:18 PM	#763
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	Well with JAG figured out, this thread gets boring...zzzz

06-25-2009, 01:19 PM	#764
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Well can we at least talk about who we trust for nfg or Tyrith? This place is snoozers. I'm still not sure myself, but am up for hearing some thoughts on it.

06-25-2009, 01:21 PM	#765
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	Well I think im clear. soooo that lead to tyrinth right? Case closed. Everyone else agree with that reasoning?

06-25-2009, 01:21 PM	#766
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	jokes aside....really I am a villager now. When the scan comes up, ill clear. Then we can focus on lynching and getting to center.

06-25-2009, 01:32 PM	#768
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	Well Im loki....but chose villager.

06-25-2009, 01:39 PM	#770
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	Well it wasnt a series of choices. I walked around like normal. Then yesterday Jackal asked me what I wanted to be. I should note I found an object on the ground but I dont want to reveal it. I dont think that had anything to do with my journey to villager tho.

06-25-2009, 01:40 PM	#771
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	I should elaborate...Jester asked me if I wanted to be Villager or wolf...and I just chose...He did not say" what do you want to be."

06-25-2009, 01:45 PM	#772
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Loki - The Norse god of mischief returns. This role does not start the game aligned with either side - they will have multiple choices during the game that will guide their allegiance. Tyrith's story sounds much more in line with the description here as opposed to a one time choice like nfg is claiming.

06-25-2009, 01:46 PM	#773
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	So wolves are Jag, nfg and Abe it looks like.

06-25-2009, 01:47 PM	#774
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	Why are you so quick to jump on me? Also that is what it says but my story stands and is true.

06-25-2009, 01:59 PM	#779
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	Well im out till after deadline. You guys have a good day...Dont listen to the haters

06-25-2009, 02:01 PM	#780
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Hey, I just looked over the rules and I see no mention of a cunning. So can we assume CR is definitely good, or do we need to watch out for the cunning still? I guess I'm trying to get this all straight in my head -- if CR's not the BG, and RendeR's not the BG, doesn't that mean Abe is? Something isn't right with those three, I think.

06-25-2009, 02:03 PM	#782
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	why would we assume CR is definately good? __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-25-2009, 02:03 PM	#783
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Vote Jag for obvious reasons

06-25-2009, 02:10 PM	#788
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	ah yes before I forget. vote JAG Can brutals only kill people voting for them? I forget. Rules for this one make it seem like he can kill anybody.

06-25-2009, 02:11 PM	#792
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	i think we need a new chart __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-25-2009, 02:11 PM	#793
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Plus, their kill usually can't be blocked by the BG, which does not bode well for you.

06-25-2009, 02:12 PM	#794
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Hmm... UNVOTE TYRITH VOTE NFG22 I know DT is going to hate this, but maybe we should look here instead to possibly buy the seer another scan.

06-25-2009, 02:13 PM	#795
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	we go: 1. NFG 2. Tyrith 3. Abe 4. Render And I think we got this thing done. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-25-2009, 02:14 PM	#796
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	dola - my list is of course after we kill JAG today __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-25-2009, 02:14 PM	#797
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Pass - in no way does voting for NFG over JAG buy the seer another day. It's down to a bg/wolves chessmatch as far as protecting the seer - which wolf we kill (or which suspected wolf in NFG's case) has no effect on that. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-25-2009, 02:15 PM	#798
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	I find it interesting that right after I posted last night my initial choices I was considering for my seer view Tyrith posted with the reveal that he was Loki. I'm not sure how to read that-that he was worried I'd scan him and find a wolf or really is Loki and on the side of the village and wanted me to view another and find a wolf.

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