OT: Do all the hattrick threads bother you?

HornedFrog Purple · 03-05-2003, 10:41 AM

I think it is safe to say that hattrick has exploded in the forum, so my question is does this bother people who do not play the game?

I attempted to move some of the discussion over to the dynasty forum regarding the team list and other things and I have never noted any complaints from there.

My second question would be for the hattrickers. Would you support a separate forum for hattrick? Good idea? Would you visit it if it was made?

I would rather not make a poll as I hope this could be discussed.

Jets80 · 03-05-2003, 10:48 AM

Here's what bothers me and makes the board sometimes almost unreadable. Dumb ass Survivor polls and Group think threads.

bbor · 03-05-2003, 10:51 AM

Hattrick forum could be a good idea

sterlingice · 03-05-2003, 10:59 AM

Quote:

My second question would be for the hattrickers. Would you support a separate forum for hattrick? Good idea? Would you visit it if it was made?

I guess, but I can't say I'm a huge fan of more forums. The dynasty polls never get read and I think the same will happen if there is a hattrick forum. I figure it's a lot less harmful and inane than a lot of stuff on here.

SI

revrew · 03-05-2003, 11:01 AM

Yes, bugs me greatly. Simply because threads I am interested in keep getting bumped down the list or off the page. I would love to see a seperate section of this discussion board (i.e. general, dynasties, etc.) devoted to "hot" non-FOF games. When the next hot game comes out, be it baseball, hockey, soccer, whatever, the flurry of activity would be compartmentalized a bit.

samifan24 · 03-05-2003, 11:05 AM

Although I don't like the idea of more forums, I think that seperate Hattrick and gaming (interactive gaming threads) forums might take some of the volume off the main discussion forum. As it stands now, if I don't log in for a day or two, I have to scroll two or three pages back in order to see if someone responded to a thread I was reading the day before. Just something for the mods to consider....

Bee · 03-05-2003, 11:07 AM

I don't play and the threads don't bother me at all. If I'm not interested in something I don't open it.

Rich1033 · 03-05-2003, 11:14 AM

I tend to think its about time to create a seperate sim forum for discussion of games.

With Hattrick, CM4, OOTP5, FOF4, Puresim, EHM, TYC all out, or coming out, there will be plenty of discussion to warrant this. Then the General discussion could just be the polls, games, OT posts, and anything else we come up with. The concern I have is if this would change the chemistry of the board.

Perhaps someone will post a poll to held decide

03-05-2003, 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by Bee
I don't play and the threads don't bother me at all. If I'm not interested in something I don't open it.

Rich1033 · 03-05-2003, 11:18 AM

Dola

Oh yeah, It doesnt really bother me either.

I just think that as the forum grows, having everything in one place will end up detracting from the overall quality of the threads

McSweeny · 03-05-2003, 11:24 AM

i'm a bit torn on this issue. If we move the hattrick discussion to another forum it takes away from what the General Discussion forum has become, a place to talk about everything. I surely do not want a seperate forum to talk about OOTP, CM, FOF, Puresim, EHM or whatever. All that type of discussion belongs in the General discussion forum, becasue this place has become sim central.

So i guess if we made a seperate forum for Hattrick that would be ok, as long as it was only hattrick and we kept everything else here. I'm interested in all those sims and i don't like reading about them here, where i read about everthing else.

And while we're talking about forum changes, how about getting rid of the College Football forum? does anyone actually use that place?

Whew... fairly long winded

rkmsuf · 03-05-2003, 11:31 AM

If the Hattrick discussion is just one thread what's the big deal?

vex · 03-05-2003, 11:34 AM

Doesn't bother me, and I don't think we should have seperate forums.

Craptacular · 03-05-2003, 12:58 PM

I wouldn't find seeing a forum for Interactive Gaming, or putting them in the dynasties forum. Sometimes it's annoying to see 9 different threads about the same topic / project on the front page. Perhaps people can attempt to use existing threads (this goes for all topics) instead of starting new ones about similar topics.

QuikSand · 03-05-2003, 01:08 PM

Here's what bothers me and makes the board sometimes almost unreadable. Dumb ass posts from nitwits who shouldn't be allowed to breed.

Trouble is, these can show up in any thread... I don't have the (easy) option to just not click on the ones that are clearly labeled as something that doesn't interest me.

As for the Hattrickers, Survivors, pollsters, and the GroupThinkers... unless the thread volume for that stuff gets far larger than it is, I don't see how their presence really imposes on anyone.

NevStar · 03-05-2003, 01:15 PM

Will Hattrick kill the FOFC?

Mountain · 03-05-2003, 01:17 PM

I personally enjoy the diversity of threads on this forum and have been informed of many other games I would not have otherwise found except for these threads. I like all the Hattrick threads and read all of the dynasty reports. I don't like the survivor threads or the proliferation of polls but I simply don't read them and they don't bother me at all. Keep truckin.

rkmsuf · 03-05-2003, 01:20 PM

Mountain, if you are going to quote Caddyshack please do it correctly. What you have there is almost a criminal act...

DataKing · 03-05-2003, 03:37 PM

Mountain brings up a very good point. If the threads regarding Hattrick (and any other specific game, for that matter), are relegated to their own "little corner of the board," then the amount of exposure they will receive to the general FOFC population will shrink considerably.

How many people on this board are currently playing and enjoying Hattrick, simply because they wanted to see what all the noise was about in the first place? That "noise" wouldn't reach the ears of a lot of FOFCers if it was all contained in its own little section.

Now, what would be handy is an "ignore thread" button, but I think that is a different topic altogether.

Mountain · 03-05-2003, 04:01 PM

Then please give me the correct quote.

rkmsuf · 03-05-2003, 04:04 PM

It's like you don't even know what this whole internet thing is...

Carl: "And I said, Hey Lama, how 'bout a little something, you know, for the effort? And he says, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed you will receive total consciousness So I got that going for me, which is nice."

Mountain · 03-05-2003, 04:34 PM

Thanks

rkmsuf · 03-05-2003, 04:37 PM

I'm joking...have whatever you want as your sig...I like to pretend I'm the Caddyshack police...

Marmel · 03-05-2003, 04:39 PM

Hey! You scratched my anchor!

Mountain · 03-05-2003, 04:58 PM

I've been so busy surfing porn on the internet I never realized there were other uses for it. You mean there's other things you can do?

robbgmaier · 03-05-2003, 05:10 PM

The only hattrick thread I hate is the very first one I read, that got me addicted to the damn thing. After being assimilated, the others are just wonderful....

rexalllsc · 03-05-2003, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by Jets80
Here's what bothers me and makes the board sometimes almost unreadable. Dumb ass Survivor polls and Group think threads.

Good call. IMO, the Group Thinks should go to the Dynasty threads...

vex · 03-05-2003, 07:34 PM

Yeah, Group Thinks threads are no different than other interactive threads. To the dynasty forum!

Vince · 03-05-2003, 07:43 PM

Good question, and everyone brings up valid points. However, I think those that argue that moving them would eliminate their presence, and limit the exposure to new people, are wrong. I think having its own forum would draw the curious just as well as multitudes of threads does.

Personally, I'm always wondering how to voice hattrick questions, as a newbie...should I post in the Dynasty Reports? Attach it to the end of another hattrick thread that's already existing, to have it possibly ignored or threadjack someone? Or post an entire new thread, possibly annoying those that aren't hattrickers already?

I think a new forum would work...we have enough people now that talk about it that the forum would be used, and it would keep hattrick discussion to "its own little corner of the board." Just my $0.02 though.

rexalllsc · 03-05-2003, 07:53 PM

One thing that should be noted is that there isn't a huge volume or traffic here, so they're probably not taking the space of anything else...and that they may not generate as much interest if moved off of the main board...

kcchief19 · 03-05-2003, 10:39 PM

All FOF, Hattrick, CM, polls and all these other "off-topic" threads bother me. If it doesn't have anything to do with OOTP, CDs recorded by a moderator or events that are important to a moderator, it should be posted. We need more on-topic discussions for this forum.

Michael, does this qualify as a dumb ass post from a nitwit, or am I eligible to invoke a fair comment/satire clause?

03-15-2003, 12:46 PM

Nearly 70 some odd threads started in the past 30 days involving Hattrick. With an average of over 1 new thread per day it may be time to get a separate section going if for nothing else but to get the Hattrickers more organized.

rexalllsc · 03-15-2003, 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by couriers
Nearly 70 some odd threads started in the past 30 days involving Hattrick. With an average of over 1 new thread per day it may be time to get a separate section going if for nothing else but to get the Hattrickers more organized.

Or just rename the board FOFC: Hattrick Central

FBPro · 03-15-2003, 01:06 PM

If we had separate forums for all these games, there would be like 2 posts in this forum a day.

korme · 03-15-2003, 01:07 PM

What about this?

Football Sim Discussion
Baseball Sim Discussion
Soccer Sim Discussion
Hockey Sim Discussion
Basketball Sim Discussion

Five may be alot, but for instance, I would never visit the hockey forum.

rexalllsc · 03-15-2003, 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by FBPro
If we had separate forums for all these games, there would be like 2 posts in this forum a day.

Not only that, but people usually only want to visit one forum, IMO

03-15-2003, 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by FBPro
If we had separate forums for all these games, there would be like 2 posts in this forum a day.

The number of off topic threads on the first page of this forum does not support this statement. Also, what is up with the College Football forum where there have only been 30 or 40 posts since January? Why does that topic deserve its own section but not something more active like Hattrick?

GrantDawg · 03-15-2003, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by QuikSand
Here's what bothers me and makes the board sometimes almost unreadable. Dumb ass posts from nitwits who shouldn't be allowed to breed.

Trouble is, these can show up in any thread... I don't have the (easy) option to just not click on the ones that are clearly labeled as something that doesn't interest me.

As for the Hattrickers, Survivors, pollsters, and the GroupThinkers... unless the thread volume for that stuff gets far larger than it is, I don't see how their presence really imposes on anyone.

Has anybody noticed Quick has gotten crabby recently? His time of the month?

03-15-2003, 01:26 PM

How about:

General Discussion Forum
Simulation Sports Forum
Real Sports Forum

McSweeny · 03-15-2003, 01:27 PM

nah... i like it the way it is. One forum is fine. I don't want to have to go to 3 different places to make sure i didn't miss something ya know?

QuikSand · 03-15-2003, 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by GrantDawg
Has anybody noticed Quick [sic] has gotten crabby recently? His time of the month?

The mean-spirited content was, just in case you hadn't noticed, a parody of the first response from this thread. Mean-spirited yes, but not totally from out of nowhere.

daedalus · 03-15-2003, 11:04 PM

I didn't think it was mean-spirited. I got a decent giggle, er, I meant chuckle . . . chuckle out of that and kcchief's posts.

For some boards, a number of separated forums works and works very well (GoneGold is an outstanding example of this). For this board, it hasn't shown itself to work out. Name a forum on this board (in any of the 3 incarnations) other than Dynasty that has managed to draw significant traffic. Additionally, I'm not sure Ryan and Ben exactly has the time to sit here and "police" to make sure threads goes into the proper forum. Nor would it make any sense to waste their valuable time on that.

Right now the board is loaded with Hattrick threads. Soon as Marc lets us have CM4, it'll be loaded with that. And so on and so forth with whatever flavour du jour happens to come up. Why does it matter one bit? It's pretty much part of the "charm" of this place.

Ksyrup · 03-15-2003, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rkmsuf
I'm joking...have whatever you want as your sig...I like to pretend I'm the Caddyshack police...

The Caddyshack police...danana nananana

03-05-2003, 10:51 AM	#3
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Hattrick forum could be a good idea __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

03-05-2003, 11:01 AM	#5
revrew Team Chaplain Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Just outside Des Moines, IA	Yes, bugs me greatly. Simply because threads I am interested in keep getting bumped down the list or off the page. I would love to see a seperate section of this discussion board (i.e. general, dynasties, etc.) devoted to "hot" non-FOF games. When the next hot game comes out, be it baseball, hockey, soccer, whatever, the flurry of activity would be compartmentalized a bit. __________________ Winner of 6 FOFC Scribe Awards, including 3 Gold Scribes Founder of the ZFL, 2004 Golden Scribe Dynasty of the Year Now bringing The Des Moines Dragons back to life, and the joke's on YOU, NFL! I came to the Crossroad. I took it. And that has made all the difference.

03-05-2003, 11:05 AM	#6
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	Although I don't like the idea of more forums, I think that seperate Hattrick and gaming (interactive gaming threads) forums might take some of the volume off the main discussion forum. As it stands now, if I don't log in for a day or two, I have to scroll two or three pages back in order to see if someone responded to a thread I was reading the day before. Just something for the mods to consider.... __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

03-05-2003, 11:31 AM	#12
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	If the Hattrick discussion is just one thread what's the big deal? __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-05-2003, 01:15 PM	#16
NevStar High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Raleigh, NC	Will Hattrick kill the FOFC? __________________ I can't think of a clever signature.

03-05-2003, 10:48 AM	#2
Jets80 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC	Here's what bothers me and makes the board sometimes almost unreadable. Dumb ass Survivor polls and Group think threads.

03-05-2003, 11:07 AM	#7
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	I don't play and the threads don't bother me at all. If I'm not interested in something I don't open it.

03-05-2003, 11:14 AM	#8
Rich1033 High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sylvania, Ohio	I tend to think its about time to create a seperate sim forum for discussion of games. With Hattrick, CM4, OOTP5, FOF4, Puresim, EHM, TYC all out, or coming out, there will be plenty of discussion to warrant this. Then the General discussion could just be the polls, games, OT posts, and anything else we come up with. The concern I have is if this would change the chemistry of the board. Perhaps someone will post a poll to held decide

03-05-2003, 11:18 AM	#10
Rich1033 High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sylvania, Ohio	Dola Oh yeah, It doesnt really bother me either. I just think that as the forum grows, having everything in one place will end up detracting from the overall quality of the threads

03-05-2003, 11:24 AM	#11
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	i'm a bit torn on this issue. If we move the hattrick discussion to another forum it takes away from what the General Discussion forum has become, a place to talk about everything. I surely do not want a seperate forum to talk about OOTP, CM, FOF, Puresim, EHM or whatever. All that type of discussion belongs in the General discussion forum, becasue this place has become sim central. So i guess if we made a seperate forum for Hattrick that would be ok, as long as it was only hattrick and we kept everything else here. I'm interested in all those sims and i don't like reading about them here, where i read about everthing else. And while we're talking about forum changes, how about getting rid of the College Football forum? does anyone actually use that place? Whew... fairly long winded

03-05-2003, 11:34 AM	#13
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Doesn't bother me, and I don't think we should have seperate forums.

03-05-2003, 12:58 PM	#14
Craptacular College Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Mad City, WI	I wouldn't find seeing a forum for Interactive Gaming, or putting them in the dynasties forum. Sometimes it's annoying to see 9 different threads about the same topic / project on the front page. Perhaps people can attempt to use existing threads (this goes for all topics) instead of starting new ones about similar topics.

03-05-2003, 01:08 PM	#15
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Here's what bothers me and makes the board sometimes almost unreadable. Dumb ass posts from nitwits who shouldn't be allowed to breed. Trouble is, these can show up in any thread... I don't have the (easy) option to just not click on the ones that are clearly labeled as something that doesn't interest me. As for the Hattrickers, Survivors, pollsters, and the GroupThinkers... unless the thread volume for that stuff gets far larger than it is, I don't see how their presence really imposes on anyone.

03-05-2003, 01:17 PM	#17
Mountain Mascot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, S.C.	I personally enjoy the diversity of threads on this forum and have been informed of many other games I would not have otherwise found except for these threads. I like all the Hattrick threads and read all of the dynasty reports. I don't like the survivor threads or the proliferation of polls but I simply don't read them and they don't bother me at all. Keep truckin. __________________ At death you will receive everlasting consciousness . . . So I've got that going for me.

03-05-2003, 01:20 PM	#18
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Mountain, if you are going to quote Caddyshack please do it correctly. What you have there is almost a criminal act... __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-05-2003, 03:37 PM	#19
DataKing Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Chicago	Mountain brings up a very good point. If the threads regarding Hattrick (and any other specific game, for that matter), are relegated to their own "little corner of the board," then the amount of exposure they will receive to the general FOFC population will shrink considerably. How many people on this board are currently playing and enjoying Hattrick, simply because they wanted to see what all the noise was about in the first place? That "noise" wouldn't reach the ears of a lot of FOFCers if it was all contained in its own little section. Now, what would be handy is an "ignore thread" button, but I think that is a different topic altogether. __________________ Current Games Diablo III (BattleTag: DataKing#1685) Allegiances: Chicago Bears - Detroit Red Wings - Kansas Jayhawks Awards: 2011 Golden Scribe - Other Sports Category (The Straight(away) and Narrow - A Forza Motorsport 3 Dynasty)

03-05-2003, 04:01 PM	#20
Mountain Mascot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, S.C.	Then please give me the correct quote. __________________ At death you will receive everlasting consciousness . . . So I've got that going for me.

03-05-2003, 04:04 PM	#21
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	It's like you don't even know what this whole internet thing is... Carl: "And I said, Hey Lama, how 'bout a little something, you know, for the effort? And he says, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed you will receive total consciousness So I got that going for me, which is nice." __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-05-2003, 04:34 PM	#22
Mountain Mascot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, S.C.	Thanks

03-05-2003, 04:37 PM	#23
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	I'm joking...have whatever you want as your sig...I like to pretend I'm the Caddyshack police... __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-05-2003, 04:39 PM	#24
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	Hey! You scratched my anchor! __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

03-05-2003, 04:58 PM	#25
Mountain Mascot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, S.C.	I've been so busy surfing porn on the internet I never realized there were other uses for it. You mean there's other things you can do? __________________ At death you will receive everlasting consciousness . . . So I've got that going for me.

03-05-2003, 05:10 PM	#26
robbgmaier College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2001	The only hattrick thread I hate is the very first one I read, that got me addicted to the damn thing. After being assimilated, the others are just wonderful....

03-05-2003, 07:34 PM	#28
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Yeah, Group Thinks threads are no different than other interactive threads. To the dynasty forum! Last edited by vex : 03-05-2003 at 07:35 PM.

03-05-2003, 07:43 PM	#29
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Good question, and everyone brings up valid points. However, I think those that argue that moving them would eliminate their presence, and limit the exposure to new people, are wrong. I think having its own forum would draw the curious just as well as multitudes of threads does. Personally, I'm always wondering how to voice hattrick questions, as a newbie...should I post in the Dynasty Reports? Attach it to the end of another hattrick thread that's already existing, to have it possibly ignored or threadjack someone? Or post an entire new thread, possibly annoying those that aren't hattrickers already? I think a new forum would work...we have enough people now that talk about it that the forum would be used, and it would keep hattrick discussion to "its own little corner of the board." Just my $0.02 though. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

03-05-2003, 07:53 PM	#30
rexalllsc Banned Join Date: Feb 2003	One thing that should be noted is that there isn't a huge volume or traffic here, so they're probably not taking the space of anything else...and that they may not generate as much interest if moved off of the main board...

03-05-2003, 10:39 PM	#31
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	All FOF, Hattrick, CM, polls and all these other "off-topic" threads bother me. If it doesn't have anything to do with OOTP, CDs recorded by a moderator or events that are important to a moderator, it should be posted. We need more on-topic discussions for this forum. Michael, does this qualify as a dumb ass post from a nitwit, or am I eligible to invoke a fair comment/satire clause?

03-15-2003, 12:46 PM	#32
couriers	Nearly 70 some odd threads started in the past 30 days involving Hattrick. With an average of over 1 new thread per day it may be time to get a separate section going if for nothing else but to get the Hattrickers more organized.

03-15-2003, 01:06 PM	#34
FBPro College Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SE	If we had separate forums for all these games, there would be like 2 posts in this forum a day. __________________ GM RayCo Raiders-est. 2004-2012 Charter member of the IHOF-RayCo GM GM Tennessee Titans PFL 2011-2014 GM Tennessee Titans FOWL 2020-2025

03-15-2003, 01:07 PM	#35
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	What about this? Football Sim Discussion Baseball Sim Discussion Soccer Sim Discussion Hockey Sim Discussion Basketball Sim Discussion Five may be alot, but for instance, I would never visit the hockey forum.

03-15-2003, 01:26 PM	#39
couriers	How about: General Discussion Forum Simulation Sports Forum Real Sports Forum

03-15-2003, 01:27 PM	#40
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	nah... i like it the way it is. One forum is fine. I don't want to have to go to 3 different places to make sure i didn't miss something ya know?

03-15-2003, 11:04 PM	#42
daedalus Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	I didn't think it was mean-spirited. I got a decent giggle, er, I meant chuckle . . . chuckle out of that and kcchief's posts. For some boards, a number of separated forums works and works very well (GoneGold is an outstanding example of this). For this board, it hasn't shown itself to work out. Name a forum on this board (in any of the 3 incarnations) other than Dynasty that has managed to draw significant traffic. Additionally, I'm not sure Ryan and Ben exactly has the time to sit here and "police" to make sure threads goes into the proper forum. Nor would it make any sense to waste their valuable time on that. Right now the board is loaded with Hattrick threads. Soon as Marc lets us have CM4, it'll be loaded with that. And so on and so forth with whatever flavour du jour happens to come up. Why does it matter one bit? It's pretty much part of the "charm" of this place.

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