Front Office Football Central  

Go Back   Front Office Football Central > Main Forums > Werewolf Games
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read Statistics

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-14-2010, 12:58 PM   #201
DaddyTorgo
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
UNVOTE LATHUM

(just to be clear, that was just a joke vote since he didn't tell me he was in town - of course I didn't tell him when I flew into Seattle for 1 night 2 weeks back).

I like the idea (CW's analysis i think?) of assuming we were villager/neutral last night and looking for the third wolf in the people who stayed away from saldana+me last night.

What's that list look like...hmmm
DaddyTorgo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 01:03 PM   #202
DaddyTorgo
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
So the list of who people voted for that wasn't saldana or me is below, along with the voters

PackerFanatic 2 - Coffee Warlord (82), Darth Vilus (92)
Chief Rum 1 - Passacaglia (73)


Interesting that CW (I think right?) put forth this line of thought when he's one of the people likely to be looked at via it. That screams un-wolfish to me, so a + for his trust. No such + for Darth...actually that's quite an interesting vote by him, 10 posts later trying to dump a vote on someone. Balanced out a little by how excited he was to see me lynched (un-wolfish to let that show).

Passacaglia is interesting there on Chief Rum.

Looking at all those, I might vote Darth tonight - that's sort of where my thinking is now.
DaddyTorgo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 01:05 PM   #203
Autumn
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bath, ME
Did we have any non-votes? Raider's Army obviously. Oh and PackerFan, right?
Autumn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 01:09 PM   #204
Coffee Warlord
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Colorado Springs
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo View Post
Looking at all those, I might vote Darth tonight - that's sort of where my thinking is now.

As I brought up earlier, his (DV's) posts around the deadline were kinda odd, to say the least.
Coffee Warlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 01:26 PM   #205
DaddyTorgo
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord View Post
As I brought up earlier, his (DV's) posts around the deadline were kinda odd, to say the least.

Yes - but almost too blatantly odd to be wolfy, which is giving me pause and actually making me look towards Pass as the other person...
DaddyTorgo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 01:39 PM   #206
Coffee Warlord
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Colorado Springs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Autumn View Post

Danny puts a first vote on Saldana (well second but there was an unvote). I then put a first (though I though there was one still) on Darth. So we have three poeple looking for a new candidate at this point. Candidates already on teh block are DT, PF and Chief. The fact that PF was close to the lead at this point has been overlooked.

Thou hast made an interesting point here.

Though to play Devil's Advocate, 2 votes isn't usually perceived as 'close to the lead' in my mind, even if, in reality, he was close.
Coffee Warlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 01:45 PM   #207
saldana
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Bethlehem, Pa
first of all, this is awesome that there were actually a full page of posts to go through...this is how WW is supposed to be!

looking at the way the votes for me fell, i can give autumn a bit of a pass...his timing looked like he was just trying to add a second horse to the race. the one that jumps out at me is Darth, so thats where i am going to go today.

vote darth vilius
saldana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 01:52 PM   #208
DaddyTorgo
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
Maybe a Darth vs. Pass vote? Put up two of the folks who didn't vote for saldana or me?
DaddyTorgo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 02:07 PM   #209
Autumn
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bath, ME
I can see all the arguments being made. I'm going to stick with my vote for now 'cause it feels solid to me, but I'll always move if it makes sense later.
Autumn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 02:32 PM   #210
thejuggler3
Mascot
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Hahaha, DV I was about to mention how you "conveniently" left out Coffee, but I think you're a bit above reproach at this point.

The one thing that hasn't been mentioned that I'm curious about is what the wolves got out of last night. EagleFan mentioned that he would PM them with what they gained. We got "Jack" as a straight-up villager (when he could have been a wolf), which is pretty nice. Could they have another wolf? That would be a pretty big bonus for the wolf side, so I'm not sure it's that, but it's got to be something good...

As of right now, I'm not assuming anything in terms of the number of villagers, wolves, etc. That is, unless EagleFan wants to confirm that the number of wolves are the same as the start (crosses fingers).

Just thought I'd throw that out there.
thejuggler3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 02:51 PM   #211
Coffee Warlord
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Colorado Springs
Barring some blinding new burst of insight, I'm going to hop on board with Autumn's analysis.

Vote PackersFanatic
Coffee Warlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 03:05 PM   #212
PackerFanatic
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Appleton, WI
CW is just spiteful

You won't gain anything from lynching me other than a potentially good vote history. I am beginning to think either Autumn or CW is a wolf.
__________________
Commissioner of the RNFL
PackerFanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 03:05 PM   #213
PackerFanatic
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Appleton, WI
dola, and that is simply based on their push towards me.
__________________
Commissioner of the RNFL
PackerFanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 03:11 PM   #214
Autumn
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bath, ME
Quote:
Originally Posted by PackerFanatic View Post
dola, and that is simply based on their push towards me.

Everybody's got to push somebody, right? I looked through the vote history and picked a target. That's not a wolf move, that's just how to play Werewolf.

What thoughts do you have about where to vote? We're all still waiting for a great candidate I think.
Autumn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 03:19 PM   #215
PackerFanatic
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Appleton, WI
And with it being day 2 and the fact we targeted a neutral player last night, we aren't a whole lot better off than yesterday - so no, I really don't have a great candidate.
__________________
Commissioner of the RNFL
PackerFanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 03:20 PM   #216
Coffee Warlord
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Colorado Springs
Quote:
Originally Posted by PackerFanatic View Post
dola, and that is simply based on their push towards me.

You would prefer another target? A wolven target? Then name the user!

You gave a slight ding to my radar yesterday. We're too early to have much in the way of majorly strong candidates. Autumn gave a good analysis, and I find myself agreeing with it. Thus. I voted, and I wanted it done early enough to spur some more discussion/activity.

And, well, you're a Packers fan.
Coffee Warlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 03:21 PM   #217
Autumn
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bath, ME
Quote:
Originally Posted by PackerFanatic View Post
And with it being day 2 and the fact we targeted a neutral player last night, we aren't a whole lot better off than yesterday - so no, I really don't have a great candidate.

Me either! lol
Autumn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 03:26 PM   #218
PackerFanatic
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Appleton, WI
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord View Post
And, well, you're a Packers fan.

Gah, that will always be your reason to vote for me, won't it?! :-P
__________________
Commissioner of the RNFL
PackerFanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 03:28 PM   #219
Coffee Warlord
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Colorado Springs
Quote:
Originally Posted by PackerFanatic View Post
Gah, that will always be your reason to vote for me, won't it?! :-P

Honestly, do I *need* another reason aside from that?
Coffee Warlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 03:33 PM   #220
PackerFanatic
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Appleton, WI
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord View Post
Honestly, do I *need* another reason aside from that?

Whatever, Bears Fan

*NOTE: I assume that merely because you live in Chicago. I mean, the fact you live there is bad enough... *
__________________
Commissioner of the RNFL
PackerFanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 03:37 PM   #221
Lathum
Favored Bitch #1
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: homeless in NJ
I am going to wait closer to the deadline so I can make a completely uneducated potentialy deciding vote.
Lathum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 03:44 PM   #222
Autumn
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bath, ME
lol Lathum
Autumn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 03:49 PM   #223
PackerFanatic
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Appleton, WI
UNVOTE AUTUMN

I want to try and make a more educated vote myself - although at this point, I think we can get much more educated. Either way, I don't want to go for revenge just because Autumn started the run on me - I'd rather put the vote to good use and go after a wolf - since, you know, I am not one.
__________________
Commissioner of the RNFL
PackerFanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 03:51 PM   #224
PackerFanatic
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Appleton, WI
Right now the vote looks pretty close, from my quick scan...

Raiders Army 1 - Passacaglia (194)
PackerFanatic 2 - Autumn (196), Coffee Warload (211)
Darth Vilus 1 - Saldana (207)
__________________
Commissioner of the RNFL
PackerFanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 03:55 PM   #225
PackerFanatic
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Appleton, WI
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo View Post
Maybe a Darth vs. Pass vote? Put up two of the folks who didn't vote for saldana or me?

Looking back, this doesn't seem like a bad option. We can't put too much stock in the voters for either of those two, but it's definitely a place to start. Since Darth has a vote already, I might as well tie it up.

I WILL move my vote to take one for the team if it stays as a tie. I'd rather help the cause and take the fall than see a tie and screw us over even more.

VOTE DARTH VILUS
__________________
Commissioner of the RNFL
PackerFanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 04:07 PM   #226
MartinD
High School Varsity
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: East Lothian, Scotland
A few thoughts - just 'thinking out loud' so these may or may not be sensible...

The wolves wouldn't have known that DT was Jack - in their eyes, he would have been just another villager (with a small chance of being Jack).

Unless something very strange is going on behind the scenes, DT is now a definite villager. (Pointing out the obvious, I know...)

saldana would be an obvious candidate for today's vote, but I'm not sure what we gain with a lynch here (as opposed to lynching A. N. Other) - don't think that The Jackal's late vote would give any indication of wolfishness (as it made things closer, but was far enough out from deadline for changes to happen). DT's vote was attempted self-preservation, and we've been told that he's now a villager, so no value in looking in that direction at this point.

The votes for the 'other' candidates all came fairly early (all before post 100) - don't know who was around and when (particularly as I'm not going to be online from at least 4 hours before deadline!) - don't know if this is particularly meaningful, as the votes hadn't coalesced by that point.

CR's vote for DT (third vote when no-one else had more than 1) looks a little strange to me - it was a case of needing to vote early, though, and I've been in that position plenty of times in the past, and those votes can look a bit strange by the time the deadline comes round.

I don't have any major suspicions about anyone at this point - will have look at recent posts, and post a vote shortly.
MartinD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 04:18 PM   #227
MartinD
High School Varsity
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: East Lothian, Scotland
So, three people with votes at this point - as I said in my previous post, I don't have much in the way of trust/suspicion at the moment, so my initial thought is that there's not much value in going outside of these three...

There isn't much to go on, so I'll go with the one who made the slightly strange vote on day 1 - looking back, PF's vote (and reason) for voting for DV does feel a little off.

VOTE PACKERFANATIC
MartinD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 04:25 PM   #228
saldana
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Bethlehem, Pa
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lathum View Post
I am going to wait closer to the deadline so I can make a completely uneducated potentialy deciding vote.

as opposed to when you vote early....how.....?
saldana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 04:29 PM   #229
Chief Rum
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Where Hip Hop lives
I have always been accepting of the likelihood wolves will spread their votes a bit, so the concept that at least one wolf is likely to have voted outside of the sal-DT showdown yesterday appeals to me.

In a DV vs Pass matchup, I am undecided what way to go, but I would guess at this time I am leaning slightly toward DV.
__________________
.
.

I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.
Chief Rum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 04:29 PM   #230
saldana
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Bethlehem, Pa
Quote:
Originally Posted by thejuggler3 View Post
Hahaha, DV I was about to mention how you "conveniently" left out Coffee, but I think you're a bit above reproach at this point.


what exactly about CW has rendered him "above reproach" at this point?

the only person above reproach is DT.

also, i am about 2 seconds from changing my vote...something just jumped clean off the screen at me, but i want to ponder it while slaughtering some elementals for a while.
saldana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 04:36 PM   #231
Coffee Warlord
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Colorado Springs
Quote:
Originally Posted by saldana View Post
also, i am about 2 seconds from changing my vote...something just jumped clean off the screen at me, but i want to ponder it while slaughtering some elementals for a while.

If it's who I'm thinking of, I'll be very interested, and may wish to purchase your newsletter.
Coffee Warlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 04:37 PM   #232
thejuggler3
Mascot
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
I was saying that DT is above reporach. I was going to call DT out for excluding Coffee while mentioning the other two that voted random (as in, maybe DT and Coffee were wolves, and DT was protecting him.) Then I remembered that DT was definitely a vanilla villager. I never trust CW.

I know him IRL, and he's twice as sneaky there, hahaha.

Quote:
Originally Posted by saldana View Post
what exactly about CW has rendered him "above reproach" at this point?

the only person above reproach is DT.

also, i am about 2 seconds from changing my vote...something just jumped clean off the screen at me, but i want to ponder it while slaughtering some elementals for a while.
thejuggler3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 04:40 PM   #233
Autumn
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bath, ME
I'm going to go to dinner in a moment. I've got the kids myself tonight, so I expect I'll be gone for a number of hours. I can't imagine I wouldn't be back by deadline but it might be fairly close. I don't see any reason to move my vote at this point, PackerFan still seems a solid guess. But I'll move when I get back if it makes sense.
Autumn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 04:53 PM   #234
EagleFan
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA
Votes as of post 233:

PackerFanatic 3 - Autumn (196), Coffee Warlord (211), MartinD (227)
Darth Vilus 2 - saldana (207), PackerFanatic (225)
Raiders Army 1 - Passacaglia (194)
__________________
Inconceivable covfefe
EagleFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 05:04 PM   #235
thejuggler3
Mascot
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
I've had my vote thought out for several hours now, but I'm curious to see where this is going, so still holding off
thejuggler3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 05:11 PM   #236
DaddyTorgo
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
I'll be voting either Pass or DV. In fact, for the moment (will be home well before deadline), just to get things moving...

VOTE PASSACAGLIA
DaddyTorgo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 05:35 PM   #237
Chief Rum
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Where Hip Hop lives
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Rum View Post
I have always been accepting of the likelihood wolves will spread their votes a bit, so the concept that at least one wolf is likely to have voted outside of the sal-DT showdown yesterday appeals to me.

In a DV vs Pass matchup, I am undecided what way to go, but I would guess at this time I am leaning slightly toward DV.

Putting aside for the moment that I'm not yet ready to run PF out, that puts me back to the above, which I more or less stole from DT, the lone known villager at the moment (but also with a point I agree with).

I disagree with his decision to vote for Pass, though, purely on vibe. Despite the fact Pass has voted for me, I'm just not reading a wolf from him right now. I am getting that sense stronger from DV's play so far. Also, Pass is a new candidate while DV already has votes. So I'm going with DV.

VOTE DARTH VILUS
__________________
.
.

I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.
Chief Rum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 05:38 PM   #238
Danny
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Vote Saldana

I still think he is a solid vote here and this would tell us about day 1's vote.
Danny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 05:41 PM   #239
Darth Vilus
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SoCal
So Lord Vilus is a candidate today is he? Well I'll have to see what I can do about this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PackerFanatic View Post
Using Autumn's list, I am going to pull from his "people to choose from" list. I don't want to pile on DT too heavily, so I will throw the vote elsewhere, get one more option in there.

VOTE DARTH VILUS

This is why i voted for Packers yesterday. he picked from someone else's list, tried to justify a vote, and added an extra candidate to the mix. This just seems wolfish to me, trying to play it a little too safe. I usuallt try to do that when I'm a wolf.

Today i was either going to vote Packers or Jackal (don't get a good vibe from him either) but since I'm a candidate I'll have to go to self preservation.

So

Vote Pass

Unless anyone is willing to go after Packers or Jack
__________________
"Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it."
―Darth Bane

"Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…"
―Darth Plagueis the Wise
Darth Vilus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 05:44 PM   #240
Darth Vilus
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SoCal
Oh i forgot to mention as well, i wasn't gleeful that DT was going to die. I was just amused that he was so far out in the lead and was trying to save himself with a reveal so early in the game. I just thought he was desperate, there is no way that i would have bet on him telling the truth. It just looked like he couldn't be saved
__________________
"Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it."
―Darth Bane

"Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…"
―Darth Plagueis the Wise
Darth Vilus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 05:49 PM   #241
Darth Vilus
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SoCal
Unvote Pass

Vote Packers

I made a mistake, read it wrong
__________________
"Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it."
―Darth Bane

"Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…"
―Darth Plagueis the Wise
Darth Vilus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 05:53 PM   #242
thejuggler3
Mascot
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Damn it! I was either going Packer or Pass. Those were the two I've been mulling over today due to their curious play up until now.

I assumed I would just go Packer since Pass didn't have any votes, but now that it's close, it makes it harder to decide. I don't really get the wolfy vibe from DV's play so far, but maybe I'm missing something.

Since I trust DT more than anyone else, I'm going to go with Pass for now. I at least know (unless something is going on behind the scenes) that he's out for the villagers' best interest. However, I'll switch over to Packer if it looks like we're going to run into a tie.

Vote Pass
thejuggler3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 06:33 PM   #243
The Jackal
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
How is it looking now?
The Jackal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 06:33 PM   #244
The Jackal
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
I'm preoccupied with this hockey game
The Jackal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 06:38 PM   #245
Darth Vilus
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SoCal
Who's playing?
__________________
"Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it."
―Darth Bane

"Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…"
―Darth Plagueis the Wise
Darth Vilus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 06:39 PM   #246
The Jackal
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
Flyers v Penguins
The Jackal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 06:40 PM   #247
saldana
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Bethlehem, Pa
unvote darth
vote packerfan


not a big fan of the fact that for the second day in a row, he has stacked on my vote...i know i am a villager, so what that means to me is that DV is a villager, he knows it, and wanted to get a run on a villager and make me look bad at the same time for being the first vote.
saldana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 06:50 PM   #248
Coffee Warlord
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Colorado Springs
Packers 5
DV 2
Raiders 1
pass 2
sald 1

I THINK this is right.
Coffee Warlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 07:07 PM   #249
PackerFanatic
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Appleton, WI
Arg...
__________________
Commissioner of the RNFL
PackerFanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 07:10 PM   #250
PackerFanatic
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Appleton, WI
I don't like to vote outside of the current line of thinking typically, so as not to spread the vote to thin. But I also draw far too much suspicion when I vote along the lines of others. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, right?
__________________
Commissioner of the RNFL
PackerFanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:48 PM.



Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.