Werewolf XXXIX: The Lady of La Rochelle–GAME OVER. - Page 11

Lathum · 12-10-2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

looks like I'm breaking the tie and I'm in a no win situation for it.

we need a majority to lynch so you aren't under any pressure.

SnDvls · 12-10-2006, 07:34 PM

man I really need to reread the rules

Blade6119 · 12-10-2006, 07:34 PM

UNVOTE LONESTARGIRL

In case i need to have a say in this duel selection

SnDvls · 12-10-2006, 07:35 PM

so far I like the arguments for voting fouts so
as a placeholder for now until I finish catching up

vote Fouts

subject to change once I get caught up on post 276 now

BrianD · 12-10-2006, 07:35 PM

I don't know that I am big on putting Fouts or Dubb behind the pistols today (though I am curious about why he think he won't be dueling. I'm going to muddy the waters a bit and...

Vote ntndeacon

Coffee Warlord · 12-10-2006, 07:38 PM

Since we're almost certainly gonna have a duel today, I'm pretty keen on seeing Fouts involved as well, to see what was up with his Not Dueling thing.

Thinking I'll move my vote to him if need be to keep him in the duel. I have no particular reason one way or another on the other vote getters.

Grammaticus · 12-10-2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

I would have thought we learned this in prior games, but in all fairness:

Being a priest is one form of status in the period. For this game that angle was potentially given to both CG and Musketeers. So if you are using the book, just know it was a dice roll in this game and not a faction thing. It actually could go either way.

I should also say, some stuff is purely flavor background and some have ability power.

SnDvls · 12-10-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Dude, I don't fricking CARE about Small Game 3.

you've said this several times and I'm trying not to take it personal..I do however agree I should have set up weekend play on Wed. I apoligize for that now please stop ripping on my game...thanks

Lathum · 12-10-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

you've said this several times and I'm trying not to take it personal..I do however agree I should have set up weekend play on Wed. I apoligize for that now please stop ripping on my game...thanks

i hate your game

Blade6119 · 12-10-2006, 07:58 PM

I will say this..i saw that and then saw him rip on dubb for trashing chief rum's game. It was really not classy, but im trying to avoid insults this game...they will only get me lynched

Blade6119 · 12-10-2006, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

i hate your game

Dont make me challenge you to a duel to make up for egypt

Tyrith · 12-10-2006, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

you've said this several times and I'm trying not to take it personal..I do however agree I should have set up weekend play on Wed. I apoligize for that now please stop ripping on my game...thanks

I worded that very specifically to not rip onto your game. Blade left me no choice but to make things abundantly clear, so don't blame me.

SnDvls · 12-10-2006, 08:03 PM

ALL - so we don't clog up this game with the small game discussion take it over there it's not fair to Gram. this will be the last I mention it here thanks.

BrianD · 12-10-2006, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

I will say this..i saw that and then saw him rip on dubb for trashing chief rum's game. It was really not classy, but im trying to avoid insults this game...they will only get me lynched

Oh come on, you know we are all just waiting for an excuse to lynch you. :P

Tyrith · 12-10-2006, 08:04 PM

The whole thing with dubb is that even though he may not have done anything specifically this game that's insulting, there is a past history on this board that, like or not, comes into play. Aggressive play _in the manner I saw it today_ has historically led to very bad things in the end. History exists, I can not and will not just ignore it.

Tyrith · 12-10-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

ALL - so we don't clog up this game with the small game discussion take it over there it's not fair to Gram. this will be the last I mention it here thanks.

Dude, why don't you read the rest of the thread before you counter my "insults" with more "insults"? It didn't come up for the rest of the day until you brought it up.

Fouts · 12-10-2006, 08:08 PM

So... about the duel tonight. Don't start popping your popcorn quite yet.

DaddyTorgo · 12-10-2006, 08:10 PM

interesting fouts. i'm curious to see what's going on, lemme tell you that!

Blade6119 · 12-10-2006, 08:11 PM

Fouts, if you have something to say, say it. Cronin did, and the vote moved off of him. Im able to vote someone and help you, but idle threats make me want to vote you, not save you.

Lathum · 12-10-2006, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Dont make me challenge you to a duel to make up for egypt

no duel could ever make up for the anal violation I put on you

Tyrith · 12-10-2006, 08:13 PM

I don't think we can take the vote off Fouts. At this point we have to test him, and see if we learn anything. If there really isn't any risk to him, then it doesn't matter.

Fouts · 12-10-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Fouts, if you have something to say, say it. Cronin did, and the vote moved off of him. Im able to vote someone and help you, but idle threats make me want to vote you, not save you.

I am not threating anyone, and if I were, it wouldn't be idle. I'm fine with the way things are right now. I'd rather have Dubb and Izulde duel, but it doesn't look like its going to happen.

st.cronin · 12-10-2006, 08:14 PM

WAG: Fouts has a 1-time ability to name somebody else to take his place in the duel.

Blade6119 · 12-10-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

no duel could ever make up for the anal violation I put on you

King kong aint got shit on me...if you want to go, bring it.

Tyrith · 12-10-2006, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

WAG: Fouts has a 1-time ability to name somebody else to take his place in the duel.

The question would be who he would name, then. And I guess that depends on which side you think he's on. However, that would contradict his popcorn comment, because that implies no duel at all.

Izulde · 12-10-2006, 08:17 PM

Boy I go to sleep off fraternity retreat last night and suddenly there's a run on me.

Why did I reveal that information? *shrugs* I just wasn't thinking about the strategy aspects of it. It was me trying to be in character like I do one or two posts in to the large games like this before abandoning the role.

I didn't answer it because if it really was as stupid a move as Alan believes it to be, I wasn't going to remind people of it by responding to it. I was just going to let it fade back into the woodwork.

I'm not any special role or anything, just a vanilla guardsman outside of the thing I mentioned in my intro post.

Alan T · 12-10-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

WAG: Fouts has a 1-time ability to name somebody else to take his place in the duel.

If that was the case, then he could force it to be dubb and Izulde, which he seems to hint the current setup isnt going to work.

My guess is its either one of the following:

1) Fouts can replace himself if he is the #2 in votes with whoever was #3 in votes.

2) Fouts can duck out of the duel if there is a clear #3 regardless of which votegetter he was (currently there is a tie for #3, which might make that not work)

3) Fouts was bluffing in an attempt to get more people to push dubb up higher and possibly move him out of the duel all together.

Fouts · 12-10-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

WAG: Fouts has a 1-time ability to name somebody else to take his place in the duel.

Not a bad guess. As I said earlier, I was worried about killing a seer type role. It is my thinking that a seer type role would not come out early in a game accusing others.

So... if you (meaning all of you) have accused somebody early in this game, you should be worried.

Fouts · 12-10-2006, 08:21 PM

And there, blade, is the threat. And not an idle one.

Blade6119 · 12-10-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

And there, blade, is the threat. And not an idle one.

Does your power only apply to voting duels, or challenges too?

Fouts · 12-10-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Does your power only apply to voting duels, or challenges too?

I'm not sure how this matters as I can refuse any challenge.

BrianD · 12-10-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Not a bad guess. As I said earlier, I was worried about killing a seer type role. It is my thinking that a seer type role would not come out early in a game accusing others.

So... if you (meaning all of you) have accused somebody early in this game, you should be worried.

If that is how you are going to pick your replacement, I think I am glad I didn't take your offer to name a top suspect.

Blade6119 · 12-10-2006, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

I'm not sure how this matters as I can refuse any challenge.

Can you use your power on any duel, or only one your in?

DaddyTorgo · 12-10-2006, 08:27 PM

hmmm. interesting

path12 · 12-10-2006, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

To be fair, you wern't the first vote. Path started it, followed by you and others really quickly

But yes, that weirded me out too

I just figured it was my impeccable logic.

Fouts · 12-10-2006, 08:34 PM

I'm going to choose between my 2 biggest accusers. I don't think either of them are seer types that can help us, as they wouldn't be so quick to try and string up one of their own.

Chief Rum and Alan T. You have ~ 25 minutes to state your case.

path12 · 12-10-2006, 08:34 PM

If Fouts' power is a one-time thing, why on earth would we want to test it on day 1? Keep it for when we need it.

Fouts · 12-10-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

If Fouts' power is a one-time thing, why on earth would we want to test it on day 1? Keep it for when we need it.

I told them early I was on the side of good, but no votes moved. I'm fine with using my ability early, as I will be a known good the rest of the way. The bad guys can take me out later, but that will give the seer another day to live.

Blade6119 · 12-10-2006, 08:44 PM

VOTE ST. CRONIN

Back to my original vote, same reason as then

Alan T · 12-10-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

I'm going to choose between my 2 biggest accusers. I don't think either of them are seer types that can help us, as they wouldn't be so quick to try and string up one of their own.

Chief Rum and Alan T. You have ~ 25 minutes to state your case.

Chief said earlier that he wouldn't be around until after lynch due to work. So you likely won't get anything from him. As for me, I've already stated why I chose you as a day one lynch vote. No one likes being singled out on day 1 so I understand you don't liike it any more than anyone else would.

You initially said that your role wasn't important and it wasn't a big deal to you that we were voting you. To me that told me that while you may or may not be a wolf, I wouldn't be accidentally voting to lynch the seer or bodyguard or some other important type role that I am unaware of.

I thought about moving my vote off of you several times to Izulde for the reasons I stated a few times. His finally coming to explain himself as well as the huge run on him cooled me off to that.

For me, I am in the situation as follows:

1) You are good, I am involved in your lynch and it looks bad on me tommorrow

2) You are good, I move off of you to someone else good and get them lynched and it looks bad on me tommorrow.

3) You are bad, and I am involved with your lynch and it looks good for me tommorrow

4) You are bad, I move off of you to someone else good, and at some day it looks really bad for me to have saved you.

5) You are good, I move to someone else bad and help lynch them and it looks good for me

No matter how I add it up, it looks like luck to me. Any time someone does a late vote move it looks really suspicious unless they just happen to hit a bad guy. Since I have no idea who the bad guys are, the chances of that happening for me are probably under 20%.

I guess this fortunately or unfortunately for me is a situation that just like anyone else I have to live with my vote. If that means you have some ability to put me to my death for voting for you, then I guess that is the risk I have to take.

Alan T · 12-10-2006, 08:49 PM

Well I see Chief Rum reading the thread, so evidentally I was incorrect about his being here. I guess I remembered what he said wrong.

Fouts · 12-10-2006, 08:50 PM

With everything you've read, Alan, you still will not switch over to another duel candidate?

Lathum · 12-10-2006, 08:52 PM

IMO fouts is a smart player and this could be a fake reveal in an attempt to get people to try and take pressure off him to "save him for later".

I have great respect for his play overall but
I think we need to see what happens here. IF nothing else it allows us to begin to build a COT

Alan T · 12-10-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

With everything you've read, Alan, you still will not switch over to another duel candidate?

To be fair, I don't know anything more about anyone else than I know about you.

I know you say you have some special duel changing ability but dont know what.

I know Izulde says he is a sharpshooter

I know Dubb says he is a great fencer

I don't remember anything of note about ntndeacon.

As far as I know all four (Or at least Izulde, you and Ntndeacon) said something along the lines of being normal CG and aren't anything special. So my hope is none of the four is the seer or bodyguard or such.

For me to move my vote without any good reason might possibly save me today but just will put a huge bullseye on m e for tommorrow. If I knew more, then I would have more to go on, but as is I guess I have to live with my decision.

Coffee Warlord · 12-10-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

IMO fouts is a smart player and this could be a fake reveal in an attempt to get people to try and take pressure off him to "save him for later".

At this point, I really really really REALLY doubt it.

Alan T · 12-10-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

At this point, I really really really REALLY doubt it.

I actually partially agree with Lathum. Part of me wonders if it was a bluff/scare tactic to have enough people to be scared of dying that they would move their votes off of him and save him. Unfortunatly for me I have no idea, so I have to read this bluff and I suck at poker.

Fouts · 12-10-2006, 08:58 PM

Ok, order sent. Thanks for considering it.

Blade6119 · 12-10-2006, 08:59 PM

Quite frankly i care more about seeing a duel then who is actually in it. I have generally come to terms with the fact day one will cost us a villager every game, so im just glad we get to learn what the duels will be like(and potentially info about the winner)

Coffee Warlord · 12-10-2006, 09:01 PM

Time check.

Chief Rum · 12-10-2006, 09:02 PM

I stated my reasons for voting for Fouts. He was acting suspicious, and UTR. If this gets me killed, so be it. You are killing a regular Cardinal then, Fouts. Keep that in mind.

At least I have reasons for voting for you. Your only reason is revenge, and it's a pretty piss poor one.

12-10-2006, 07:34 PM	#503
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	UNVOTE LONESTARGIRL In case i need to have a say in this duel selection __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

12-10-2006, 07:58 PM	#510
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	I will say this..i saw that and then saw him rip on dubb for trashing chief rum's game. It was really not classy, but im trying to avoid insults this game...they will only get me lynched __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

12-10-2006, 08:11 PM	#519
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Fouts, if you have something to say, say it. Cronin did, and the vote moved off of him. Im able to vote someone and help you, but idle threats make me want to vote you, not save you. __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

12-10-2006, 08:14 PM	#523
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	WAG: Fouts has a 1-time ability to name somebody else to take his place in the duel. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-10-2006, 08:17 PM	#526
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Boy I go to sleep off fraternity retreat last night and suddenly there's a run on me. Why did I reveal that information? shrugs I just wasn't thinking about the strategy aspects of it. It was me trying to be in character like I do one or two posts in to the large games like this before abandoning the role. I didn't answer it because if it really was as stupid a move as Alan believes it to be, I wasn't going to remind people of it by responding to it. I was just going to let it fade back into the woodwork. I'm not any special role or anything, just a vanilla guardsman outside of the thing I mentioned in my intro post. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

12-10-2006, 07:34 PM	#502
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	man I really need to reread the rules

12-10-2006, 07:35 PM	#504
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	so far I like the arguments for voting fouts so as a placeholder for now until I finish catching up vote Fouts subject to change once I get caught up on post 276 now

12-10-2006, 07:35 PM	#505
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I don't know that I am big on putting Fouts or Dubb behind the pistols today (though I am curious about why he think he won't be dueling. I'm going to muddy the waters a bit and... Vote ntndeacon

12-10-2006, 07:38 PM	#506
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Since we're almost certainly gonna have a duel today, I'm pretty keen on seeing Fouts involved as well, to see what was up with his Not Dueling thing. Thinking I'll move my vote to him if need be to keep him in the duel. I have no particular reason one way or another on the other vote getters.

12-10-2006, 08:03 PM	#513
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	ALL - so we don't clog up this game with the small game discussion take it over there it's not fair to Gram. this will be the last I mention it here thanks.

12-10-2006, 08:04 PM	#515
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	The whole thing with dubb is that even though he may not have done anything specifically this game that's insulting, there is a past history on this board that, like or not, comes into play. Aggressive play _in the manner I saw it today_ has historically led to very bad things in the end. History exists, I can not and will not just ignore it.

12-10-2006, 08:08 PM	#517
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	So... about the duel tonight. Don't start popping your popcorn quite yet.

12-10-2006, 08:10 PM	#518
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	interesting fouts. i'm curious to see what's going on, lemme tell you that!

12-10-2006, 08:13 PM	#521
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	I don't think we can take the vote off Fouts. At this point we have to test him, and see if we learn anything. If there really isn't any risk to him, then it doesn't matter.

12-10-2006, 08:21 PM	#529
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	And there, blade, is the threat. And not an idle one.

12-10-2006, 08:27 PM	#534
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	hmmm. interesting

12-10-2006, 08:34 PM	#536
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	I'm going to choose between my 2 biggest accusers. I don't think either of them are seer types that can help us, as they wouldn't be so quick to try and string up one of their own. Chief Rum and Alan T. You have ~ 25 minutes to state your case.

12-10-2006, 08:34 PM	#537
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	If Fouts' power is a one-time thing, why on earth would we want to test it on day 1? Keep it for when we need it. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

12-10-2006, 08:44 PM	#539
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	VOTE ST. CRONIN Back to my original vote, same reason as then __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

12-10-2006, 08:49 PM	#541
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Well I see Chief Rum reading the thread, so evidentally I was incorrect about his being here. I guess I remembered what he said wrong.

12-10-2006, 08:50 PM	#542
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	With everything you've read, Alan, you still will not switch over to another duel candidate?

12-10-2006, 08:52 PM	#543
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	IMO fouts is a smart player and this could be a fake reveal in an attempt to get people to try and take pressure off him to "save him for later". I have great respect for his play overall but I think we need to see what happens here. IF nothing else it allows us to begin to build a COT

12-10-2006, 08:58 PM	#547
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Ok, order sent. Thanks for considering it.

12-10-2006, 08:59 PM	#548
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Quite frankly i care more about seeing a duel then who is actually in it. I have generally come to terms with the fact day one will cost us a villager every game, so im just glad we get to learn what the duels will be like(and potentially info about the winner) __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

12-10-2006, 09:01 PM	#549
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Time check.

12-10-2006, 09:02 PM	#550
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I stated my reasons for voting for Fouts. He was acting suspicious, and UTR. If this gets me killed, so be it. You are killing a regular Cardinal then, Fouts. Keep that in mind. At least I have reasons for voting for you. Your only reason is revenge, and it's a pretty piss poor one. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

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