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Old 07-29-2008, 11:18 AM   #1051
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Sorry for being missing a lot this morning. Busy day at work.

I am looking at the seat list to try and figure out how this could be an endgame ploy. My sense is that the wolves were winning coming into today. A fake reveal only makes sense if they are somehow threatened by a lynch today or if they can hit critical mass with a lynch and a night kill.
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:31 AM   #1052
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Sorry for being missing a lot this morning. Busy day at work.

I am looking at the seat list to try and figure out how this could be an endgame ploy. My sense is that the wolves were winning coming into today. A fake reveal only makes sense if they are somehow threatened by a lynch today or if they can hit critical mass with a lynch and a night kill.


Well I think it's clear I'm in the camp of they are making a play to win the game.

Kinda has stunk that not many dems are on today but it's not your guys' fault
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:41 AM   #1053
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What does PB's reveal say to you, Chubb?
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:44 AM   #1054
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What does PB's reveal say to you, Chubb?


I'm surprised a little bit that it's now "I'm seer", "NO I'M SEER" but I think we've all been looking at heinz for a while now and I was ready to vote for him this morning. I have a much wolfier read on heinz than I do on purduebrad. going to go thru voting history of each.

I still think it's an endgame play when it comes down to it and I still think heinz and illini are in cahoots.
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:46 AM   #1055
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as far as I know, heinz is the "stronger" WW player but i'm nowhere near certain and hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:53 AM   #1056
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I am leaning in your direction on this, but I would note that part of PB's allure has been his traveling almost completely under the radar in this game. But I imagine the seer wants to be a little low profile.
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:10 PM   #1057
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heading out to do errands, will be back in a little bit. curious to see how this plays out...
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:13 PM   #1058
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I just had to quickly read the past 3-4 pages in the other thread, so I don't know which one to believe.
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Old 07-29-2008, 01:30 PM   #1059
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I find it hard to believe Heinze and Illini are on the same team. That would be a 3-1 rep wolf advantage, I find that hard to believe that is the case.
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Old 07-29-2008, 01:31 PM   #1060
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Are we going to work up a bill today or move to reverse the veto on the Bill Be Gone or what?
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:01 PM   #1061
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Go vote yes on CARP if you haven't yet.

UNNOMINATE CHUBBY 4 Prez
Nominate KWHIT for PREZ

He's the only guy that is clear. Let's put him up and ensure his reelection and safety.

We've got very little room to wiggle on legislation. but we found a way to wiggle through yesterday. I'm headed to the can. I'll give a bill my utmost attention therein.
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:11 PM   #1062
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UNNOMINATE CHUBBY 4 Prez
Nominate KWHIT for PREZ
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:18 PM   #1063
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I'm fine with nominating KWhit for prez but I don't see how he is going to win with him trailing in his local district. If it's better for the village vs the party then I'm 100% behind it.
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:27 PM   #1064
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It assured re-election. Both "seers" cleared Tyrith, so unless he happens to be the cunning wolf, he is safe to lose to.
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:28 PM   #1065
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It assures KWhit's reelection I should say.
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:31 PM   #1066
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It assured re-election. Both "seers" cleared Tyrith, so unless he happens to be the cunning wolf, he is safe to lose to.


ok, i missed us throwing the presidency to tyirth. that makes sense then.
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:33 PM   #1067
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Chubby, are you officially switching your vote?
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:34 PM   #1068
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Ok. That works. I'll be the sacrificial lamb for the Prez nomination.
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:34 PM   #1069
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:35 PM   #1070
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McC - Chubby - Are you cool with this? Either of you declaring support gives us critical mass.
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:36 PM   #1071
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Chubby, are you officially switching your vote?

I can but I as far as I knew it was merely up to KWhit to nominate by PM to CR/olie

unsupport Chubby for prez
support KWhit for prez
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:43 PM   #1072
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The girlfriend will be home soon and we're going to go get a bite to eat so I won't be on in a while.

I'll make my final plea for lynch vote here as I think the repub wolves have the other repubs all sorts of messed up.

I don't believe heinz, I think he is making this play to win the game for the wolves. I'm putting myself out on a limb but that is fine because I really think heinz is our biggest threat. I've done everything I could for the party and the village this game and if this is my last day here then I want to make sure I've done all I can. With heinz down today we can look at and go after mccollins tomorrow if that's what we choose to do as I'm pretty sure heinz will come up wolf. If not then it's my ass on the line and I'm fine with that.

My play today is going after heinz, he's the one I think if full of crap. I hope everybody sees the same things I do but if not then there's nothing else I can say but to convince you and I'll let my track record this game speak for itself if I don't get night killed tonight.
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:10 PM   #1073
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So it appears I am the official Pres nominee?
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:11 PM   #1074
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Yes. I'm going to announce you in the main thread.
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:22 PM   #1075
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Everyone go endorse KWhit. Not sure to whom it gives a benefit, but it can't hurt.
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:50 PM   #1076
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So who should we support/slurry?
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:00 PM   #1077
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The Most Popular Politicians Among Party Members, Day Four

1. Chubby
2. chesapeake
7. mccollins
4. Lathum
5. henry296
6. KWhit

Here are how the District Polling is shaping up

KWhit (behind in polls)
Chubby (ahead in polls)
henry296 (behind in polls)
Lathum (behind in polls)
mccollins (behind in polls)
chesapeake (tight polling)

YOU MUST SELECT A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THANKS.

Support choices would be either McC/Lathum/Henry to try and hold seats since we haven't narrowed down exactly who the wolf is; or you x3 and hope for the best. Former seems to make more sense.

Slurry Tyrith, I guess?
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:03 PM   #1078
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My legislative proposal:

Whereas the Wolf Party is bad -- very very bad.
Whereas Democrats and Republicans stand united against this most unamerican threat.
Wheras the American people believe Congress has passed enough laws for the moment. And,
Whereas the American people still want Congress to pass something.

Be it resolved:
Any wolf party rider attached to this bill is immediately declared null and void.

I proposed this yesterday. I still worry about taking the electoral hit of not proposing anything. Do you think we could get away with this? We can always ask that the Prez-elect veto it so the court doesn't strip the active clause.
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:13 PM   #1079
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I'm using my power to hold my seat - no need to waste a support on me. Put some or a lot on KWhit.

Yes, ches, I think we need to propose SOMETHING unless everyone votes to overturn the veto on Bill be gone so we don't have to deal with bills anymore.
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:15 PM   #1080
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I have three problems with the BBG override
1) We eat a wolf rider
2) We keep a wolf rider because CARP didn't have a majority (ps -- go vote yes on that so it is sure to pass today;
3) If the seer or BG get whacked, with no legislative powers we can't replace him.
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:30 PM   #1081
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No posts in over 3 hours?
Makes it easy to catch up.
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:31 PM   #1082
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If people are still wanting to play the bill game, we could change rules like allow nightfall (to get this over with) or change the deadline times.
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:33 AM   #1083
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The Most Popular Politicians Among Party Members, Day Four

1. Chubby
2. KWhit
3. mccollins


Here are how the District Polling is shaping up

KWhit (behind in polls)
Chubby (tight polling)
mccollins (behind in polls)

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Old 07-30-2008, 08:05 AM   #1084
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FWIW, I nominate KWhit Leader and Speaker
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Old 07-30-2008, 08:10 AM   #1085
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and liaison too.
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Old 07-30-2008, 10:50 AM   #1086
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BUMP!

The wolves won't talk to me anymore because they say I've said too much.
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Old 07-30-2008, 10:52 AM   #1087
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How were you talking to them anyway? If you were PMing them, you could get thrown out of the game.
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Old 07-30-2008, 10:53 AM   #1088
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OH I thought since I was liaison I got PM rights - DOH!
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Old 07-30-2008, 10:55 AM   #1089
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I won't tell if you don't tell.
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Old 07-30-2008, 01:29 PM   #1090
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mccollins, you penis!

Why did you have to go and kill me off!??!
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Old 07-30-2008, 01:29 PM   #1091
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mccollins, you penis!

Why did you have to go and kill me off!??!


hahaha
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Old 07-30-2008, 01:57 PM   #1092
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ME NEED MOAR DISTRICTS!!

ROOOWWRRRR!!
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Old 07-31-2008, 08:28 AM   #1093
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We still need a liaison too - someone that is a good sweet-talker that can convince the repubs

haha just started reading the thread -- I'm very interested to see how you guys go from this statement to finally deciding on Lathum!
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Old 07-31-2008, 08:45 AM   #1094
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Old 07-31-2008, 08:46 AM   #1095
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That was a fun read.

Hilarious to watch Chubby and Collins continually throw out the names Heinz, Pass and Tyrith to be lynch targets.

Chubby's big post at the end there about the Seer issue was a funny one too.


Oh, and Lathum had it right chespeake. If I"m being obtuse, it's likely intentional
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Old 07-31-2008, 10:29 AM   #1096
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That was a fun read.

Hilarious to watch Chubby and Collins continually throw out the names Heinz, Pass and Tyrith to be lynch targets.

Chubby's big post at the end there about the Seer issue was a funny one too.


Oh, and Lathum had it right chespeake. If I"m being obtuse, it's likely intentional

Heh, although I think it was crazy how often he kept pushing to just vote a Republican -- and you guys called US partisan!

And I still don't get why Chubby came out so much against heinz. mccollins I can understand, since he would have been heinz's next scan, but I think Chubby could have stayed quiet and been fine.
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Old 07-31-2008, 02:58 PM   #1097
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I thought about this. No one could have expected that 4 players would be eliminated from the game overnight -- PB, Lathum, Henry and myself -- thus leaving it painfully obvious who the wolves were. Assuming a more realistic 2 kills, I think the idea was Chubby would be hard anti-heinz, and if it didn't work, he would still come up good with the seer. He would then have to cinvince everyone that he was acting in good faith, but it just may have worked.

If McCollins played the hard line, the scan that night would have turned up wolf, leaving Chubby all alone to try and win.
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Old 07-31-2008, 03:09 PM   #1098
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However, they did know about three of those kills. They knew PB would go, they killed you, and they ruined henry's election. Although, they might not have known henry would have been removed from the game, I guess.
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